UPDATE: Improving Magneto Contacts | BikeBerry Tips and Tricks
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2014
- UPDATE: Improving Magneto Contacts | BikeBerry Tips and Tricks
We've received a lot of concerns regarding electrical issues with the 2-stroke bike engine kits. If you're having inconsistent spark, poor performance, or unable to even create spark, it may be due to the magneto loop set's coating. Grab some sand paper and remove it for proper contact with the engine body as well as proper ground. WARNING: Doing so will make the magneto vulnerable to moister damage. I highly recommend sealing the magneto case with weather resistant sealant to prevent such damages.
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I really wish you guys would show the part where you tighten the bolts down. Thats important to see for newbies.
Hand tight with socket/screw driver and a squeeze or hand tight and a quarter turn usually on small bolts like 10mms. Doesn't take much so don't muscle it like crazy.
They won't unless they redo it.
Want to thank you for this informative video in other videos that I had used for troubleshooting I was stumped on getting my motor going till I watch this video you guys rock man appreciate it
it nice to see you guy uploading ! thump this if u agree and want bikeberry to be more active!
My crank seal is leaking onto the magneto, is it advisable to replace the magneto and the seal or can I get away with cleaning and drying the fuel soaked magneto for reuse?
Very usefull video as always. If i replace the standard 6volts magneto coil with a 12volts magneto coil, it will damage the cdi?
i had 4 people with 4 volt meters test coil and mag could not get correct readings what are we doing wrong ? thanks the kit is great
There are a lot o shortcomings in this self-proclaimed "short in-depth" video. Mainly, what do you do with the white wire if you don't use it??
And for those of you wondering how to gap the mag correctly, take a business card and fit it between the magnet and the u-shape piece. ''Tis perfect!
He said he doesn't recommend using it.
It still leans to one side after I tighten it, would you recommend shaving down that end, or is it ok if it rubs a little?
White wire is for lights or anything that might take power. Dont use it, the magneto isnt strong enough to power motor and lighting and such
Can you install an 80CC birdlike/scooter CDI system to create more spark and as result able to burn better and more fuel????
What about connecting a rectifier to the white wire wouldn't it apply more power to the light
Why does my new phantom engine keep pushing my woodruff key out? The gear is new,keyway is new washer is on the bolt.
How many volts it can generate the magneto coil??
This was actually EXACTLY the "diagram" and explanation of the magneto I was looking for!!!! Though you didn't go in depth, it all made sense for me: the engine is physically rotating the magnet (powered via crankshaft etc), and the bar magnet in side (which has a north-south polarity of course) spins perpendicularly against the direction of the copper coils, effectively becoming a AC generator because it induces current in the leads of the magneto (ALSO it gives the iron engine block ITSELF an electromagnetic charge), and the current in the leads from the magneto are 'ultimately' connected to the spark plug, which, being at another side of the engine block, completes the circuit into the engine, the engine block itself also being the ground. I've still yet to figure out HOW the spark plug works (not "what" it does, not it's "purpose" in the engine, but HOW it works :) ), but this vid really unlocked a piece of the entire puzzle!!! :) :) :)
It makes ac tho
I agree it's AC
Corrected, thank you
how many voltage produced by bendix company magnetos
What kind of nut is used to hold the magnet in? I’m fixing up my motor and I need a new one but can’t find a specific answer to get a replacement
no one sells the bolt for this magneto eetf i can right it till i get this part where do i buy it whats the name of it
this is not an in depth video this just shows you how to put it on doesnt explain how the magneto alignment is supposed to be just tells you the magnet alignment
thanks
Cool tips thanks!
1 question ! Peut t'on mettre une clavette a avance variable ?
Qué bien pour la Jolla
Thank you.
Always glad to know our content is helpful
You guys don't understand
My magneto has reduced magnetism. What do I do?
I have a 2 stroke bicycle kit and was wondering if installing a pull start would damage the magneto.
Luckily, magnetos are simple designs and have no actually electric parts and very few moving parts. This makes it hard to damage any magneto without actually physical damage being asserted to it. A pull start add on, should work just fine.
@@bikeberry what if the magneto's rubbing on one side, what solutions do you have?
What size wrench is recommended for the magneto cover bolts. 7/64 Allen seems loose , but 1/8 is too big.
M6 bolt
I don’t see it att all the key hole thingy
How can i get a spare Magnet ,lot during a complete overhaul
In India i cannot source the have the spare
I've seen them for sale on EBAY.Good luck.
i have a question what if the magneto in the center is so tight i tried to move it but is so tight that is inmpossible to move , do you think that could be a reqson why my engine is not starting ? i could never get the engine running since i got it
victor larraondo where are you from im looking for a motor for a fix up project.
Any lucky Victor
did anyone else get a clear oil spill out of there magnito? I got no spark, I bypass the KS, got a new plug, and nothing. ....if water got into the magnito compartment, what would be the best fix? any information appreciated.
wd40 is ur answer I was made to displace water in cars electronics hence the wd (water displacement formula 40
Just wondering if you guys could post a video on how to wire in a better cdi to the dragonfire engine. I want to use something like the jaguar to adjust spark timing. Or a huffy davidson to utilize the keyed ignition. Will the old style ignition fit inside the dragonfire? Any help would be much appreciated. My engine has high comp. head...high perf. carb and reed valve kit...expansion pipe...now it need more elect. juice...been told the spark timing is crap on these cdi s....
There's two wires running down from the computer that you connect where the wires come out of the motor you just match them up they're the same color I have the Jaguar installed on mine and I don't know how to adjust it I was thinking it might do it automatically but if you have any information on how to adjust that I'd gladly appreciate it
How would you connect a LED lights on that white wire do you use the white wire and black wire or what do you use just wondering
give us a call at (800)317-0479 so we can properly assist you.
That I don't understand
White would b hot wire for your light, then u would have to ground the other wire from light on frame of bike
My magneto keeps breaking down every 1200 miles... is it getting wet or is this normal?
Seal it
it Doesnt Matter what Bot the BLack wire Goes on ( right?)
Hey i only got 2 cords coming out the engine and its blue and black
you're good. the white wire for a 6v accessory is not needed
One side of the magneto touches slightly while turning. Will that be an issue?
yes
@@meanoldrunk thanks, looks like I have a couple of millimeters of separation on both sides now. I sanded down the base where that it screws onto, and carefully tightened it so it didn't pull to one side.
I changed the spark plug, carburetor, made a magnet key that hold the magnet and I thought that would solved the problem because it was damage and the magnet kept turning around the bolt at least that's the theory, after all that still no spark, if someone can give me more ideas I would appreciated very much. by the way my kill switch has always been disconnected.
Try to look at night time, and with plug out but connected, push the bike fast as you can. At low rpms there is very weak spark with these designs
My black wire is sauderd on to the magneto .no loop part
Contact our customer service representatives at 1-800-317-0479. We'd be happy to help you troubleshoot any problems.
Hey I got the DragonFire engine with integrated internal CDI. It won't spark! What can I do? Already tried a different spark plug so I know its not that
coolstorybrooooooo Hit us up, it sounds like you got a defective CDI. Support @ BikeBerry.com or call us at 800-317-0479 from 9 AM till 4 PM Pacific Time on weekdays
i bought a mega motor like three weeks ago from your company and i installed it it worked good but after one week i passed a bump and it stopped and did not start no more i scraped the magneto still no spark i take off the spark plug to see spark and no spark
what is it
the CDI might be shook up. if you replace that, cut a piece of rubber like an innertube to cushion it at the frame mounting. vibration could have killed it.
The magnetos I've purchased , all had the G wire soldered to the coil , hmmm
Why dose the magnet have to be at the 1 oclock position wouldn't it just move around anyway when the bike gets rolled? Please reply.
The 1 o'clock position is considered its default starting position which aids in alignment and synchronization with other moving parts. Doing this reduces the chance of installation error or engine malfunction.
Thank you vary much for the reply i have been doing alot of research and trying to retain as much information as possible again thanks and have a nice day. 🙃
BikeBerrycom thank you for the kinda informative response
I blew the cylinder out and replaced it found I I had no spark and replaced it now I'm getting spark and still won't fire . If I never tore the engine completely down would it still be at tdc
Does the white wire still rub engine performance if it isn't connect to anything but still remains there?
no. you can leave the white wire on an just not use it. Only thing I would do it put electrical tape on the end of the wire so it doesn't get wet. You won't lose any power for leaving the white wire on and not using it.
so one can just use a switch to run lights when needed and enjoy performance when it's sunny out
Wat spark plugs r everyone using when the factory one is done ...plz help...i need to ride....my engine is the 66cc skyhawk thanx all
sorry for a late response. You probably have a new spark plug by now, but I am using a E3.32 spark plug. I like it because it has three prongs for better spark. You can also use a NGK B6HS plug as well.
Thankyou very much
Can u please tell me what i should gap the plug at on the ngk b6hs .....i know this is far from when i originally asked about the plugs but i was able to find sum of those kit ones really cheap online so i just finally got the ngk b6hs plugs. ..thanks
Tj Dukes The gap on the spark plug should be .6mm-.7mm
Thankyou
When I did this to my bike 2 years ago it turned a piece of shit, into instant start god, that and a new spark plug and plug boot.
May my neto is not working
I have a 66cc with HD lightning box and coil. I can tune the carb but after many tries and even trying different carbs, I still have a 4-stroking problem from above idle and up, worst at top speed. Any tips? Up compression? NGK 3-prong plug? Or is there something I neglected to check? The Mag is oriented in the proper position but I have cackling and power loss after 10mph. I've jetted all the way up and down the jet kit I bought and when running rich, the problem only drastically gets worse.
RichardWreckless put on a boost bottle I have a friend who had extreme power loss when holding 75 of throttle
That sounds like an air leak
Your exaust may not be escaping fast enough, get a performance exaust and or port the cylinder and make the exaust port a little more open
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how do you achieve a good ground when the engine case is aluminum where the magneto is fitted - not sure i understand your logic. trying to create a better ground between non conductive aluminum and the magneto really makes no sense unless I'm missing something.. the coating is an insulation..
Aluminum is a very good conductor for electricity. Its used in some wiring in houses and electrical components
I connected a ground wire into the ground wires for the coil from the magneto and bolted it onto the frame at a bottle mount hole.(I have rubber mounts under the engine and knew this will insulate it.)Basically your clutch cable acts as your only ground to the bike frame otherwise.The paint on your frame ,at the motor mounts,would have to be sanded off otherwise.Maybe.?..Food for thoughts.
LoL,,, aluminium is a VERY good conductor of electricity !!!
You will make a pop can vaporize by just touching an arc welding rod to the can while it's sitting on the grounded work table 😂😆🙂
How many magneto need replace? During a engine life
The basic construction of a magneto is a magnet and a coil. The simple design makes it dependable and long lasting, as long as it is properly installed and not abused. All magnets gradually lose their magnetic charge, but most will have a similar life span as the engine, if not longer.
BikeBerrycom thanks for the reply, also have another question, My magneto and my cdi is all in low value, my cdi is in 500 something, normally is600 to 800 is normal, my magneto is only have 317something is low 327-345, also my engine doesn’t fire, but my engine is new, is any solution I can do for those thing to charge, or I only can replace?
If you like to fix things yourself, there are numerous DIY solutions to recharging the magnet. The general principal to charging a magnet is by using an electromagnet, or a any other type of strong magnet available, to realign and increase the magnetic polarities. If the part is still under warranty we will gladly replace it. Contact or customer service representatives at 1-800-317-0479 or visit our website, we will be glad to help you however we can.
BikeBerrycom what happen if both cdi and magneto all in low volume the engine won’t start directly，so low volume is hard to getting the spark to work?
Please contact our customer service representatives at 1-800-317-0479 or visit our website, we will be glad to help you however we can.
So I can hook up led lights to the white wire is what iam understanding
Correct. 6v LED light.
You fail to tell people on space setting between the magneto and magneto magnet. This is very important that this is as equal on the top of the mag as it is to the bottom.. If you fail to do this step you will have week spark or no spark at all!
Serge Smith how do you adjust the gap?
Serge Smith how do you adjust the Gap that was like the most important part😧
Serge Smith the 4 screws automatically space the coil
thanks. I found the problem.
No you guys don't understand
I have a fire dragon
The varnish is there for a reason 🤦♂️ some upgrade there 🤦♂️
Should really saved up all of those bolts! Then again that's just me!
non conductive aluminum ? get you a aluminum rod and poke it in your house braker box than say,,, non conductive ,how can metal be non conductive, magic ?
I would if that rod was coated in : varnish,paint,or excessive dirt
aluminum does'nt rust and its not painted inside the engine comp. by magnito he said none conducting aluminum
curt eval actually aluminum ~DOES~ rust, though it takes a loooong time for it to happen. Oxygen is a pain in the ass to most metals. Google: aluminum oxide, enjoy!
@@hutfrd aluminum oxidizes, not rust. You need steel to get rust.
@@towboatjeff did you even read my comment, especially the last sentence.
PS- iron oxide=rust. aluminum oxide - rusty aluminum. Steel is rust-resistant asnd is man-made, but iron isn't. you need the two ELEMENTS iron and oxygen to interact with each other rendering oxide(pertains to any metal that oxygen corrupts .)
This is a very misleading video, ,it doesn't show a very important part when installing the coil mag. There must be a small gap between the magnetic and the coil ,if not the engine will not run right an may not fire at all and also cause severe damage to both parts,,and sanding is not important either, ,,if you tighten the four screws down tight you will have great contact, so again very misleading video
Unnessary waste of time both watching the video and performing