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  • @HeliumHasPassed
    @HeliumHasPassed 2 місяці тому +2773

    Legendaries will have the most menacing designs but have the stat distribution of a gen 2 Pokémon

    • @pinklikemizutsune3336
      @pinklikemizutsune3336 2 місяці тому +312

      Im using “gen 2 stat distribution” as an insult from now on, thanks!

    • @incandescence5547
      @incandescence5547 2 місяці тому +211

      The big legendaries (670+ers) are supposed to waste a ton of points in the offensive stat they won't use because even when doing that they're far above any ordinary Pokemon, so it helps give them more menacing numbers without being *too* overwhelming
      But I will never understand why they give Fezandipiti this awful treatment. What did it do. Who was upset that day

    • @hedgehogpower194
      @hedgehogpower194 2 місяці тому +13

      That hurted lol

    • @iancastro1327
      @iancastro1327 2 місяці тому +75

      "Shut up you have the stats of a gen 2 mon" that one is gonna hurt

    • @castform7
      @castform7 2 місяці тому +35

      Powerful monsters on par with Qwilfish when it comes to the spread.

  • @lwfawn
    @lwfawn 2 місяці тому +806

    hearing “only 100 special attack” and “130 special attack just isn’t enough to do much damage” really tells you how damn bad power creep is getting

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 2 місяці тому +17

      Or The Skill Issue Of These VGC Players . 😂

    • @Kmn483
      @Kmn483 2 місяці тому +212

      Yeah when Garchomp became a support pokemon because it wasn't fast enough and didn't do enough damage, it was over.

    • @PerfectAzrael
      @PerfectAzrael 2 місяці тому +83

      What comes around goes around.
      Garchomp used to be power creep and it got crept upon.

    • @thedashey
      @thedashey 2 місяці тому +1

      I don't remember that part, who did he say those two things about?

    • @SwawDost
      @SwawDost 2 місяці тому +18

      @@thedashey ”only 100 spa” at 12:24 (regice) and the 130 spa was at the munkidori part.

  • @typemasters2871
    @typemasters2871 2 місяці тому +1974

    Ah yes, the four Tapu’s
    Tapu Koko
    Tapu Lele
    Tapu Fini
    And Rillaboom
    Not forgetting the four treasures of ruin either
    Chien-Pao
    Ting-Lu
    Chi-Yu
    And Incineroar

    • @incandescence5547
      @incandescence5547 2 місяці тому +160

      What's a Lele? You mean Indeedee?

    • @ThisAintGood.
      @ThisAintGood. 2 місяці тому +1

      @@incandescence5547Tapu Deedee

    • @castform7
      @castform7 2 місяці тому +70

      Honestly could just fit Incineroar on any Legendary group with how one size fits all it is.

    • @jo-ri-oh8950
      @jo-ri-oh8950 2 місяці тому +71

      You mean
      Chien-Pao
      Ting-Lu
      Chi-yu
      And Amoonguss?

    • @typemasters2871
      @typemasters2871 2 місяці тому +25

      @@jo-ri-oh8950 well Amoonguss doesn’t lower opponent’s attack stat whilst Incineroar can

  • @WeebHistoryVGC
    @WeebHistoryVGC 2 місяці тому +875

    I know that Wo-chien bit hurt, Moxie. It's okay man, the pain gets better with time.

    • @incandescence5547
      @incandescence5547 2 місяці тому +30

      It's hard to say how to even fix Wo-Chien; Some new moves, like Curse, Earth Power, Glare, Helping Hand, Infestation, Jungle Healing, Rage Powder, Recover, and Spiky Shield would make sense and help it, but would it see usage even then? Movepool additions can only help so much when there's a greater issue of typing and stats

    • @iancastro1327
      @iancastro1327 2 місяці тому

      ​@@incandescence5547give it spore regenerator and make it typeless now that you are into it

    • @IkanaCanyon7
      @IkanaCanyon7 2 місяці тому +13

      @@incandescence5547 As much as I love Wo-Chien I think its impossible to fix without straight up changing its typing, which is a no-go since well that'd change the entire pokemon, Dark/Grass is just a beyond abyssmal type combination and without some ridiculous stats it just will never cut it, especially once Tera is gone as a mechanic.

    • @Oreca2005
      @Oreca2005 2 місяці тому +2

      @@IkanaCanyon7and we still have to remember the design still have to be thematic with the lore and design so it’s stuck with a terrible type

    • @captaindemozan2700
      @captaindemozan2700 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Oreca2005 You could make it a Dark/Poison or Dark/Ghost, since it's made of dead matter.

  • @zombielynx21
    @zombielynx21 2 місяці тому +306

    I understand that I don't know anything about Smogon singles but being able to drop to a tier that's functionally just "Stinky" is objectively hilarious.

    • @genericname3516
      @genericname3516 2 місяці тому +37

      The funny thing is it's not even the lowest tier.

    • @Petsinwinter2
      @Petsinwinter2 2 місяці тому

      It's the lowest official tier. ZU exists, but it's still an "other metagame" at the moment​@@genericname3516

    • @KatarHero72
      @KatarHero72 2 місяці тому +9

      ​@@genericname3516 is it not? I haven't been in comp a while but remember PU being the lowest tier. Did they put something below it?

    • @-.bella.-
      @-.bella.- 2 місяці тому

      ​i think ZU is lower @@KatarHero72

    • @griffingarnaat9261
      @griffingarnaat9261 2 місяці тому +19

      @@KatarHero72I think maybe ZU? Unless they’re talking about little cup which I don’t think really counts it’s a completely unique tier

  • @wanderingtyphlosion7332
    @wanderingtyphlosion7332 2 місяці тому +342

    7:09
    And for clarification, because this is a common misconception, Slow Start halves the total and not the base stat. So, instead of hitting slightly harder than Tinkaton, your physical offense is now outclassed by Dedenne for the first five turns.

    • @ogeid772
      @ogeid772 2 місяці тому +88

      For those wondering, Regigigas max atk is 212, meaning it would become 106, which is the equivalent of having BASE FIFTY FOUR (yes, 54) and its speed, which reaches 167 max, would become 88 (rounding down) which is the equivalent of having BASE TWENTY NINE

    • @teeweezeven
      @teeweezeven 2 місяці тому +16

      Honestly, what they should've done is make Regigigas have 30 base speed, put those points in it's defenses and make slow start double the speed instead of halve it (and leave it's attack as is, probably)

    • @RedChilliPeppers
      @RedChilliPeppers 2 місяці тому +47

      ​@@teeweezeven Ah, yes. Slow start doubles your speed. Of course.

    • @notanerd6838
      @notanerd6838 2 місяці тому +33

      @@teeweezeven that's a terrible idea. Slow Start changes should be something like each Slow Start turn is permanent so if it spends 5 turns on field it permanently loses slow start for the battle. Or reduce the amount it takes to rid itself of Slow Start to like 2 or 3.

    • @teeweezeven
      @teeweezeven 2 місяці тому +8

      @@RedChilliPeppers Yes. You start slow and then get faster. It makes sense

  • @Sol_Calibre
    @Sol_Calibre 2 місяці тому +107

    We can’t even call out articuno anymore, it completely smashed the allegations last week

  • @ArtDumbster
    @ArtDumbster 2 місяці тому +575

    Imagine having a niche that's just exploding

    • @justarandompurplefox3243
      @justarandompurplefox3243 2 місяці тому +73

      In singles, Azelf was once a very efficient stealth rock setter due to explosion, ironically. Rocks up, blow up to chunk the enemy and deny rapid spin

    • @ArtDumbster
      @ArtDumbster 2 місяці тому +2

      @@justarandompurplefox3243 yeah i know, I just find it funny

    • @Natibe_
      @Natibe_ 2 місяці тому +19

      Up until Gen 4 that was the niche for like, 2/3 of all pokemon that had that move lol

    • @noskillrequired9532
      @noskillrequired9532 2 місяці тому +2

      I’d be so depressed

    • @ArtDumbster
      @ArtDumbster 2 місяці тому

      @@Natibe_ shit you are right x,D

  • @hershy1594
    @hershy1594 2 місяці тому +107

    Imagine watching a pokemon match, the trainer brings out Azelf, the legendary lake guardian, who, when combined with it's other 2 counterparts can create chains that can reign in the gods of space and time, and they just explode.

  • @felipesilva3732
    @felipesilva3732 2 місяці тому +564

    It's funny seeing people who grew up with gen 1 finding out that articuno is useless

    • @a_person5668
      @a_person5668 2 місяці тому +37

      Ehhh it’s not useless in every format. In gen 1 competitive itself (gen 1 ou), Articuno is actually pretty good. What becomes its special defense in gen 2 is its pure raw special in gen 1, and is very high. This, plus it’s partial ice typing makes it the best abuser of gen 1 blizzard (120 power, 90% accuracy, 10% chance to freeze, with there being no way to dethaw short of being hit by a first move). Now, mind you, it’s not super great or one of the best mons, but they are pretty good. What holds them back in the tier is its not so great speed, and the fact that it kinda doesn’t do anything but spam the fuck outta blizzard
      Buttt this is also singles, but still. Articuno isn’t exactly useless

    • @eeveewithcoffee9554
      @eeveewithcoffee9554 2 місяці тому +11

      It’s sad to see. I miss my blizzard bird

    • @jesuisunstroopwafel
      @jesuisunstroopwafel 2 місяці тому +22

      "Back in my day, freezing might as well be an instant KO."

    • @BandedMetagrossMeteorMash
      @BandedMetagrossMeteorMash 2 місяці тому +2

      Its not terrible in gen 3 ou

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 2 місяці тому +1

      No Because Articuno Was NEVER Everyone’s Favorite . 😂

  • @Phoenix_Star566
    @Phoenix_Star566 2 місяці тому +151

    I loved when Tapu Bulu said: “It’s Buluing time” and Bulu’ed all over OU

    • @typemasters2871
      @typemasters2871 2 місяці тому +19

      Google: did you mean Rillaboom?

    • @Trashtox
      @Trashtox 2 місяці тому +16

      First mon to deal Bullion damage

    • @MGVoltJesk
      @MGVoltJesk 2 місяці тому +1

      Then was subsequently banned to Ubers :(

  • @jaycobobob
    @jaycobobob 2 місяці тому +108

    Idk how else to explain it, but the script for this video feels like a Rube Goldberg machine😂 very smooth transitions between topics

    • @MoxieBoosted
      @MoxieBoosted  2 місяці тому +25

      Thanks I tried hard lol

    • @mrtrollnator123
      @mrtrollnator123 2 місяці тому

      ​@@MoxieBoostedfr lol

    • @xaviercurtis4838
      @xaviercurtis4838 2 місяці тому +2

      @@MoxieBoostedthe title Should’ve been ‘bad things about amazing legendary Pokémon’

  • @Mr.M3447
    @Mr.M3447 2 місяці тому +126

    Personally I think solgaleo lunala and necrozma should retroactively do a koraidon & miraidon and just call them “legendary ultra beasts” and say ultra beasts are just a unique group of Pokémon

    • @inva88
      @inva88 2 місяці тому +26

      Necrozma already is the legendary ultra beast, but solgaleo and lunala are normal legendarys

    • @henriquecarballoaranha9100
      @henriquecarballoaranha9100 2 місяці тому +12

      thats kind of how it already is in canon tho lol

    • @Mr.M3447
      @Mr.M3447 2 місяці тому +5

      @@henriquecarballoaranha9100 not officially but I agree

    • @Mr.M3447
      @Mr.M3447 2 місяці тому +4

      @@inva88 not officially actually although it’s very inconsistent

    • @THGMR-ox7sd
      @THGMR-ox7sd 2 місяці тому +10

      They have the same sound at the end of their cries as ultra beasts. If beast balls worked on them, I’d say they were part ultra beast.

  • @heitorprevitalli3182
    @heitorprevitalli3182 2 місяці тому +31

    You know a pokemon is bad when one of its only reliable sources of damage is being a kamikaze 🗿

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 2 місяці тому +9

      They are living the full japanese experience

  • @lennydickson8845
    @lennydickson8845 2 місяці тому +29

    I’m not gonna lie the “Give that boi body press” joke was hilarious. Poor sweet Regice.

    • @jasonbell8515
      @jasonbell8515 Місяць тому +1

      It’s not the best regi. It’s not even the best ice type regi. No, that honor belongs to…
      *shudders in fastest quickban ever*
      Eleki.

    • @if7723
      @if7723 10 днів тому

      ​@@jasonbell8515I mean, that's just one of the best pokemon

  • @bigmonke3348
    @bigmonke3348 2 місяці тому +101

    Only way I see bulu competing with rillaboom is if they give it spirit break (Doesnt miss and adds stab support by nerfing opponent) and sucker punch (strong priority, isnt stab but its decent)
    Also you have no idea how sad I was that type null being one of my favorite designs ever, perfect eviolite stats didnt get recovery or a decent movepool. Not even body press iron defense in swsh. At least with silvally they could always give it the legend plate treatment

    • @henriquecarballoaranha9100
      @henriquecarballoaranha9100 2 місяці тому +16

      man i miss the fake leak that said bulu got spirit break

    • @GustavoFerreira-qm2il
      @GustavoFerreira-qm2il 2 місяці тому +10

      Bulu would also need grassy glide tbh

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 2 місяці тому +1

      No , The Legend Plate Doesn’t Exist Anymore . 😂

    • @lennydickson8845
      @lennydickson8845 2 місяці тому

      Uhh spirit break isn’t a never miss move I don’t think. You’re thinking of Grimmsnarl’s other move, False surrender. Heck even play rough would help Bulu not be outclassed by a Monke starter.

    • @lalanternanana6868
      @lalanternanana6868 Місяць тому

      I think they just meant it's 100% accurate ​@@lennydickson8845

  • @adistont17
    @adistont17 Місяць тому +18

    That articuno slander didn't age that well:D

    • @_friedtofu
      @_friedtofu Місяць тому

      Still a niche pick tho

  • @castform7
    @castform7 2 місяці тому +33

    I specifically really like Azelf not only because I think it representing willpower is pretty neat but because it just goes out and explodes. Now, exploding isn't original. Pokemon like Forretress do so in smogon but the funny part to me is that Azelf is part of a Legendary trio tasked with keeping deities at bay when the time comes....and its purpose is going boom.

    • @MDH-xe1ry
      @MDH-xe1ry 2 місяці тому +3

      Yeah Azelf is great in DP OU idk what this guys on

    • @OriginalGameteer
      @OriginalGameteer 22 дні тому +3

      That's just how dedicated Azelf is!
      Guy is willing to EXPLODE to see the mission fulfilled

  • @heitorprevitalli3182
    @heitorprevitalli3182 2 місяці тому +27

    10:58 Guess who just won a regionals...

    • @FlygonkingVGC
      @FlygonkingVGC Місяць тому +10

      Articuno really said “Nah I think I’ll win.

  • @JavaughnBlaziken
    @JavaughnBlaziken 2 місяці тому +43

    I think it would be interesting to see a video on why certain Pokémon fell off. Like with Regieleki, it got the insane ability to terastalize to stop its issue with having almost no moves that weren’t electric type yet it still is a niche pick in part by nerfing its ability by .20x

    • @scottcrysel
      @scottcrysel 2 місяці тому +7

      feel like elecki's problem is mainly two things. 1) the plethora of insanely strong priority mons. dragonite and chien pao can both one shot it before it moves 2) booster flutter and bundle both outspeed it. flutter can one shot it and bundle can icy wind it to slow it down. so it can't rely on being the fastest on the field which was it's biggest advantage. and then on top of that the 20% power nerf didn't help lol

  • @alex_mendo6159
    @alex_mendo6159 2 місяці тому +14

    POV: you come back to this video after articuno wins a regional 😅

  • @outrageouslamp4539
    @outrageouslamp4539 2 місяці тому +24

    I wish sillvally at least had base 105 across the board. type:null should get current sillvally's stats plus recover. Such cool designs, such cool lore such mid stats

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 2 місяці тому +1

      Silvally’s Stats Are Fine , Not Everything Is Built For Competitive Purposes ..

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 2 місяці тому +8

      Even a flat 100 across the board, like old Mythicals, would've been good. And give it more Move options, the main point of the whole Chimera-imitation-of-God-thing was to make it a "Jack of all trades, Master of all". This thing could've ended up being for VGC/OU what Arceus's to Uber...
      Heck, I would even take an all 99 (to keep with the trend of UBs having very specific numbers). 594 would've been fine.
      All-95 is just soooo wack

    • @outrageouslamp4539
      @outrageouslamp4539 2 місяці тому +7

      @melvondrewhite2674 it's a legendary pokemon. It's entire lore is being able to counter the ultra beasts. In game it can't really do that. Yeah not every mon needs to be competitively viable, but it just feels to under powered compared to its lore.

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 2 місяці тому +1

      @@outrageouslamp4539 I Agree It Should Have Higher Stats , I Do Think They Did Him Unfairly ..

  • @tomodayama7101
    @tomodayama7101 2 місяці тому +18

    I had a funny strategy with Guzzlord where I had trickroom, stockpile, shuckle guard split, and passed contrary with swallow to give Guzzlord the maximum defense possible. Then my trickroom user had charm to raise it's attack since I gave it contrary. The biggest taunt bait team in history, but it was during an event where everyone had all legendary teams. It was a silly team and I loved it.

    • @ChokkoDon
      @ChokkoDon 2 місяці тому +2

      You are a mad man... But with good side.

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 2 місяці тому +33

    Kinda hope that when we get to Gen 10, a lot of these Pokemon will get the love they deserve with new movesets, abilities and/or stat adjustments to make them viable

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon 2 місяці тому +5

      Unless it's regigigas.

    • @IkanaCanyon7
      @IkanaCanyon7 2 місяці тому +1

      I think all Regigigas needs to be slightly more viable (and it doesnt necessarily make it amazing) is one of two things, either keep Slow Start on 5 turns BUT they dont reset on switches and one it gets its act together it stays like that, OR keep the resetting on switches but lower it to 3 turns.

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon 2 місяці тому +7

      @@IkanaCanyon7 yes, but the issue is not whether they can fix it, but of whether they want to. Remember they intentionally gave it slow start in a game without abilities.

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 2 місяці тому

      @@sinteleon To be fair, Regigigas wouldn't be fair in a game without abilities. I could see them buffing it slightly in new games, just slightly though.

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon 2 місяці тому +7

      @@Endershock1678 It's also a postgame only mon in a non-competitive format, where arceus itself also exists.

  • @finalGambitShedinja
    @finalGambitShedinja 2 місяці тому +27

    Grass Glide Rillaboom was the most unbalanced part of gen 8, like the base power nerf was sooooooo long overdue.

  • @elaias4955
    @elaias4955 2 місяці тому +19

    It’s kinda fun to try to make some of these work… except regice. That thing is just an abomination.

    • @ohno5559
      @ohno5559 2 місяці тому +1

      Works in gen 3 OU

  • @The_Pikaboi
    @The_Pikaboi 2 місяці тому +13

    When I attended both the Brisbane and Melbourne regionals this season, I ended up bringing an Uxie too the side event at both events.
    Instead of forcing it to be Cresselia lite, I made it a setup sweeper with the goal of dealing solid damage while taking nothing in return, since you can use Mystical Power to eventually get the damage output.
    In Reg E, I used Wolfes Snorlax/Kommo-o team as a base but swapped the trick room component for Uxie. Clefairy ended up being a crazy good partner as it let Uxie stay healthy and farm boosts, and when Uxie had a bad MU, Kommo-o gets a free win.
    In Reg F however I used Calm Mind Uxie and Comfey, which made Uxie much harder to kill and it was easier to keep it healthy for its sweep. In MUs, it couldnt do anything, I found DDance Gouging Fire to complement Uxies weaknesses.
    Ended up getting 12th at Brisbanes Side Event and 3rd at Melbournes with the guy. So I gotta say, if Cress wasnt busted, this guy has sauce

  • @theboostedbaboon4586
    @theboostedbaboon4586 Місяць тому +9

    10:15 well that didn't age well lol

  • @ScaramoucheValley
    @ScaramoucheValley 2 місяці тому +84

    I like to think that Legendary is a broad term that contains the likes of Mythicals and Ultra Beasts

    • @Zarugoza5969
      @Zarugoza5969 2 місяці тому +12

      But it's not lol

    • @Mothcat.
      @Mothcat. 2 місяці тому +5

      @Zarugoza5969 I mean, with most legendaries you can only get one of them, same with mythicals. Ultra beats can be caught a few times but still they’re pretty much on the same level as legendaries

    • @MelodyLumina
      @MelodyLumina 2 місяці тому +1

      the way i see it, if you can only get one of a mon in any given playthrough(don't say there's two koraidon you know what i mean), and it's not a starter, then it's a legendary
      ultra beasts are not legendaries

    • @cornonjacob
      @cornonjacob 2 місяці тому

      I didn't know you could get ultra beasts multiple times, never played gen 7. That does put them closer to paradox mons than I thought, and IG I'll label those two groups the legendaryish Pokemon -- high BSTs and can't be bred

    • @FritzFri07
      @FritzFri07 2 місяці тому +13

      ​@@MelodyLumina You can get 2 solgaleo/lunala in sm and usum

  • @builderbe640
    @builderbe640 2 місяці тому +16

    I loved the way he cleanly transitioned between each mon

  • @trevorplaysgames468
    @trevorplaysgames468 2 місяці тому +38

    Ummmmm actuallyyyy ultra beasts are technically legendaries also what is a restricted Pokémon

    • @builderbe640
      @builderbe640 2 місяці тому +1

      Smh I was gonna comment his 😭😭😊

    • @MB26535
      @MB26535 2 місяці тому +6

      Restricted Pokémon are legendaries and mythicals that are considered too powerful for "normal" official VGC play. Usually, they are legendary pokémon that appear on the box art of the game that you recieve at the end of the story. For example, base form Kyogre and Groudon have insane base 150 Attack and Special Attack with unreal bulk and HP. They have stats that are extrordinarily good without much drawback, so TPC decides that, for fairness, they should only be available in a format with other restricted Pokémon.

    • @trevorplaysgames468
      @trevorplaysgames468 2 місяці тому

      @@MB26535 ah I see thanks for clearing that up

    • @abrahamzenith2616
      @abrahamzenith2616 2 місяці тому +1

      Actually ultra beasts are no longer considered legendary as of scarlet and violet, as they changed their status in Pokemon home during it, probably to bring paradox Pokemon to a same sort of status as ub's.

  • @BrandyJ
    @BrandyJ 2 місяці тому +55

    I’d love to see a memory buff on Sylvalley.

    • @AuraStrikeAce
      @AuraStrikeAce 2 місяці тому +14

      Same, and also add 5 points to all it's stats

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 2 місяці тому

      It's no alley, it's an ally.

    • @jet-dr6nb
      @jet-dr6nb 2 місяці тому

      @@AuraStrikeAcethat would remove the point of it being a weaker arceus

    • @KeDe1606
      @KeDe1606 2 місяці тому +3

      @@jet-dr6nb… no? Arceus has 120 points in every stat. 720 in total.
      This buffed Sylvally would have 100 points in every stat. 600 in total. Bringing it on par with a pseudo-legendary.
      And I don’t know if you noticed this, but 720 > 600

  • @Slimeonian
    @Slimeonian 2 місяці тому +25

    I’ll tell you who WILL be bad in the future, Terapagos. When Terastallisation gets removed, and Terapagos loses access to its Stellar Form, it’s gonna be one of the most mid legendary Pokémon out there

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon 2 місяці тому +8

      Assuming it doesn't get a unique item and/or ability change to compensate for changes.

    • @mysticpumpkin8520
      @mysticpumpkin8520 2 місяці тому +4

      Tbh even still it will be a pain in the ass to take down because of how tera shell works
      It would be neat if Terapagos gained an alternative way to access its tera form (that or Terastalization becomes the main stay gimmick because of Briar and we gucci)

    • @GravityIsFalling
      @GravityIsFalling 2 місяці тому +1

      Replace “will” with “is” and replace “future” with “present”

    • @peco595
      @peco595 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@GravityIsFalling I mean, it's pretty good. Terapagos is just also rather predictable since it's a tera hog.

    • @nellewoodruff6337
      @nellewoodruff6337 2 місяці тому +1

      Ultra Necrozma situation

  • @anastasiskal2608
    @anastasiskal2608 2 місяці тому +27

    I really missed these videos

    • @builderbe640
      @builderbe640 2 місяці тому

      Yeah they're what got me into his channel

  • @latbil
    @latbil 2 місяці тому +4

    InSANE transitions in this video man! Huge fan of the super edited content

  • @Zac_Frost
    @Zac_Frost 2 місяці тому +11

    One thing I'd do to buff Ice Types would be giving them a couple more resistances. Maybe have them resist Water but be weak to Scald, similar to how Waters resist Ice but are weak to Freeze Dry. And also have them resist maybe Grass and/or Flying.
    Not the best buff, but it's something.

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi Місяць тому

      I know this is old, and i I too do think that ice type needs resistance buffs just like rock the original durable typing.
      I do think that water resistance would be the one, then also fairy and ghost maybe, ice is cold, fairy is life magic so and fire and ice resisting it makes sense in my opinion, also ghost being cold afterlife right? Ice and ghost resisting each other would make sense. Grass needs no more nerfs tho so i would not give ice resistance to it for that reason, as there are other options, even the flying one that you mentioned.
      Also if scald would work any differently to ice types then scorching sands should work differently on grass, but both of these moves need their power to be lowered to 60 or maybe even to 50. And new special non contactong water move with 80 and sp. defence drop chance to be added to the game. Its like flash cannon for water.

    • @Zac_Frost
      @Zac_Frost 29 днів тому

      @@turkoositerapsidi Not a bad idea. Ice resisting Water, Fairy, and I'd say Dragon instead in addition to itself would actually be kinda huge.
      The reason for Dragon: even with Fairy types, Dragons are still absurd. Even adding a typing that was outright immune to Dragon barely slowed them down.

    • @g.williams2047
      @g.williams2047 22 дні тому

      Ice needs more resists. Make it resist water and fairy and it’s perfect (also Kyurem becomes the strongest restricted Pokémon with that change lol)

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi 22 дні тому

      @@Zac_Frost Yeah. Then ice typing would be beneficial for Pokémon to have like ice dragon type Pokémon for example.

    • @Zac_Frost
      @Zac_Frost 22 дні тому

      @@turkoositerapsidi Yeah. Baxcalibur would be even more insane than it is now. XD

  • @incandescence5547
    @incandescence5547 2 місяці тому +11

    In your previous video on this topic, you brought up that Zamazenta is an amazing support Pokemon, but ends up bad because restricted slots are for the Pokemon you support, not the Pokemon that support. If you were allowed to use any six Pokemon you wanted, do you think Zamazenta would start to see a lot of usage for its supportive capabilities? I think it would -- this format would be very similar to Smogon Doubles Ubers, where Zamazenta is one of the most used Pokemon, and for good reason
    I hope a format like SwSh series 13 happens again where Zamazenta can shine (I'm not sure how much it was used during series 13, but I believe a large part of why it wasn't used that much is because of Zacian beating it and no Body Press. But now that Zacian has been nerfed, Calyrex-Shadow, which Zamazenta beats, is (probably) the strongest Pokemon)

  • @Mr_Wholegrain
    @Mr_Wholegrain 2 місяці тому +10

    The thing that annoys me about Silvally the most is the fact they made all its stats 95 instead of just making it 100 across the board like a bunch of other Legendaries.
    Hoping and praying for my boy Silvally to get more buffs.

    • @NokoTheTaco
      @NokoTheTaco 2 місяці тому +1

      Sylvally is a Legendary? That’s dumb.

    • @Marco-fs9bs
      @Marco-fs9bs 2 місяці тому +7

      @@NokoTheTaco same concept as mewtwo
      both were created in a lab
      both sucks in competitive

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 2 місяці тому +1

      I Agree Silvally’s Should’ve Been 100 Across The Board .

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@NokoTheTaco
      Why?
      It's a technologically enhanced chimera stitched together a la frankenstein's monster, with control over all 18 Types, made as God's imitation.
      If that isn't Legendary-worthy, I don't what is

    • @if7723
      @if7723 10 днів тому

      ​@@jvbon646Big rock. And big ice. And big metal

  • @simiabrass4536
    @simiabrass4536 Місяць тому +2

    Articuno must have heard this, because its part in the video really poorly aged. Only a 2nd place? Heck, he won just a few weeks after a big tournament xD

  • @Pejelizard
    @Pejelizard 2 місяці тому +4

    "articuno is one of the worst legendaries of all time"
    Articuno in the Utrecht regional:

  • @oklandon09
    @oklandon09 2 місяці тому +12

    Time to start another controversy. Type: Null and Silvally aren’t legendary. They’re categorized just as “Special Pokémon” in the Alola dex

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 2 місяці тому +4

      Type: Null and Sylvally are Legendary, that's just a straight up canon fact.
      This isn't "starting a controversy", this is just spreading misinformation

    • @gilla2092
      @gilla2092 2 місяці тому +2

      it's not controversial if it's misinformed. there's no leg room to argue, it's just incorrect

    • @Goro_Maj1ma
      @Goro_Maj1ma 22 дні тому

      ​@@jvbon646spreading misinformation is controversial sooo you're completely wrong there lmfao.

    • @Goro_Maj1ma
      @Goro_Maj1ma 22 дні тому +1

      ​@@gilla2092spreading misinformed opinions IS controversial sooo you're completely wrong there lmfao. So yes there is leg room to argue ya complete dunce.

  • @funimationfreeaccauntfree28
    @funimationfreeaccauntfree28 2 місяці тому +1

    For some reason the thumbnail made me really emotional, good job artist
    I feel like i might cry why is this making me so emotional😢😢😢

  • @virtualcolt
    @virtualcolt Місяць тому +2

    I find it really insane how the Paradox Pokemon feel much more like legendaries than the actual legendaries.

  • @madjester9844
    @madjester9844 2 місяці тому +5

    Shout outs to Silvally being the only non-starter pokemon to learn a pledge move (and only Grass Pledge for some reason). I remember a guy topped a regional in gen 8 with a Water/Grass Pledge offense using Inteleon for Water Pledge
    Edit: found a recording of the team in question: ua-cam.com/video/yhM5Y2gD6qg/v-deo.htmlsi=JPp3fgSU3veW1Ah8

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 2 місяці тому

      That's the rainbow, right?
      So like, was the main idea fishing for Crits with Intelleon's Sniper?

    • @madjester9844
      @madjester9844 2 місяці тому +3

      @@jvbon646 nope, that's the swamp, cutting opponent's speed by _75%_ . Francesco Pardini (the name of the guy in question that I just remembered) backed the duo with strong attackers like Dracovish, Chandelure and Rotom Mow, to take advantage of a speed drop such that tailwind wouldn't patch up

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 2 місяці тому

      @@madjester9844
      75%? What the actual fuck 😂

  • @ProGamer-ev3cp
    @ProGamer-ev3cp 2 місяці тому +3

    14:53 hear me out, Guzzlord on trickroom with heavy slam, heat crash, dragon rush, and crunch, I was a menace with this team on showdown, he had a check for every Tapu and technically out sped them all, and using the least viable ultra beast and using it to KO a Tapu caused mental damage to my opponents. Guzzlord my beloved.

    • @MoxieBoosted
      @MoxieBoosted  2 місяці тому

      Pressure sure tapu fini and koko both live and one shot back

  • @zachpro5475
    @zachpro5475 2 місяці тому +11

    Don’t know I’m busy spoiling my self

  • @fippywip
    @fippywip 2 місяці тому +1

    ive found great success with uxie.
    spaming mystical powers after using amnesia with leftovers (if against sp atk), then tera fairy draining kiss when i need to, regaining a ton of health from the sp atk boosts from mystical power. 4th move either being thunderbolt for good type coverage (especially because steel resists psychic and fairy), or ally switch for even better defense. usually go t bolt because it already has amazing natural bulk- 130 of each defense and special defense is insane
    pair it with a fake out, thunder wave, parting shot grimsnarl and an intimidater to reduce the damage received so to it can stay healthy and continue to give itself sp atk boosts. its base sp atk (75) is very low for a legend, but after 3-4 boosts even draining kisses will start to one shot

  • @MotorcycleCheetah
    @MotorcycleCheetah Місяць тому +1

    Never thought I’d hear Misty Terrain described as “Quirky”, but after that I just imagined Misty Terrain is just, Misty’s Bedroom, and the only effect it has on battle is how loud it is.

  • @Kazaandu
    @Kazaandu 2 місяці тому +1

    Silvaly got me my mustard shirt from the dojo by swords dancing and plate swapping between the challenges lol.
    I love that guy

  • @ItsTheLegendOfZelda
    @ItsTheLegendOfZelda 20 днів тому +1

    I feel like an appropriate buff for Okidogi is to make it so that Guard Dog not only gives Okidogi a buff when intimidated but it also prevents it’s partner from being intimidated

  • @connorobrien8763
    @connorobrien8763 Місяць тому +2

    lol talked shit on articuno and then it popped off

  • @aanngguusscclliinntt
    @aanngguusscclliinntt Місяць тому +1

    I have actually been having a lot of success in reg F with Fezandipiti and Archaludon. Tail slap with loaded dice activates stamina boost up to 3.5-4x. Light screen patches Archaludon's low Sp. Def. And then I run tailwind and icy wind for speed control. Icy wind poisons a lot of the time.

  • @erm718
    @erm718 2 місяці тому +4

    0:12 Seeing "wake up ethan" really sent my system into shock lmao

    • @erm718
      @erm718 2 місяці тому

      YOU DID IT AGAIN WITH THE RE:ZERO NOISE A H H H H H H

  • @randallsage2
    @randallsage2 2 місяці тому +2

    You could honestly make the case for putting Solgaleo on this list: its base Attack of 137 is great, it has respectable bulk, is immune to Intimidate thanks to Full Metal Body and has a very colorful movepool including recovery in Morning Sun and utility in Helping Hand and Trick Room.
    The problem is that it is wholly outclassesd by Dusk Mane Necrozma. Incredible bulk further bolstered by Prism Armor reducing supper effective damage, is far stronger sitting at base 157 Attack and can boost with Dragon Dance.

    • @MoxieBoosted
      @MoxieBoosted  2 місяці тому

      I had a separate video for restricted pokemon

  • @okgut2033
    @okgut2033 23 дні тому

    raikous purpose is imo to be a weatherball user. thats cool too cause you can have the savest rock move or a strong fire/water/ice move.
    but to be fair idk where it can use that potential well.

  • @ExpandDong420
    @ExpandDong420 2 місяці тому +4

    14:56 is a banger line

  • @sup3riorsausage174
    @sup3riorsausage174 Місяць тому

    The lake trio has some sort of niche in gen 4 battle tower, with Uxie and mespirit being strong trick leads and azelf being a strong special attacker that can out speed with explosion and focus sash

  • @Pd0nZ
    @Pd0nZ 2 місяці тому +1

    I remember Azelf having Gen 4 viability in practice, but I can't recall any results sadly.
    Otherwise, yea, pretty much the video. Even Articuno. Though I still love it very much. ❄️

  • @presidenttogekiss635
    @presidenttogekiss635 2 місяці тому +3

    Guzzlord would be much better if it got a Head Smash-like move that would let it take advantage of its gargantuan HP to soak up recoil.

  • @KatarHero72
    @KatarHero72 2 місяці тому +2

    It's funny, cause Raikou, Azelf, and Tornadus T are all solid in singles. Tornadus T is still the weakest cause of how good Landorous and Thundurus are historically, but it's still good. Raikou is a solid special attacker, and Azelf is the 2nd best suicide lead in the format after Deoxys.

  • @J0eMega
    @J0eMega 2 місяці тому +4

    I still can’t get over the fact that in a game without abilities, they HARDCODED IN regigigas’s slow start, just to make sure it never received any long-deserved viability.

    • @g.williams2047
      @g.williams2047 22 дні тому

      What game was that?

    • @J0eMega
      @J0eMega 22 дні тому

      @@g.williams2047 Legends of Arceus

  • @nathanieljones8043
    @nathanieljones8043 2 місяці тому +1

    Mythical were different at one point but you can get alot of them in game now. Its more that they got assimilated by legendaries.

  • @evertonmiller1433
    @evertonmiller1433 2 місяці тому +1

    Its so interesting to see the differences between singles and double. Seeing Torn T being here is crazy considering how it is in singles

  • @chrisfacchiano7356
    @chrisfacchiano7356 2 місяці тому +1

    That thumbnail is so good, the yellow and pink being SpongeBob and Patrick and the green for squidward 😂

  • @fedorshcheglov5534
    @fedorshcheglov5534 Місяць тому +1

    "It used to be able to crash the game"
    That seems like a pretty powerful ability. Why didn't it see more use in tournaments?

  • @Beast_the_smash_guy
    @Beast_the_smash_guy 2 місяці тому +1

    While not vgc, but instead draft, Silvally is very strong if Arceus is banned (and it is in most.) Infinite typings you can choose based off the opponents roster+your team. I'm currently running one in a draft league, and my Fire Silvally straight up got 4 kills in one game (Multi Attack, Tera Blast with Tera Grass, Swords Dance, Dragon Claw)

  • @carlsoll
    @carlsoll 2 місяці тому +3

    13:22 That snail *needs* to Win a Local Championship 🐌🥇

  • @Ringoismybirdo
    @Ringoismybirdo 2 місяці тому +1

    We actually really need the tapus cause they could stop urshifu which is a issue currently as the best counter is flutter mane which is a Pokémon that has some big weakness

  • @venomgaming7014
    @venomgaming7014 2 місяці тому

    How to counter wicked blow/surging strikes: covert cloak + fairy/dragon Tera. Or just a fairy/dragon type.
    Covert cloak is here since that stops secondary effects. So the crits don’t happen.
    As for regigigas + weezing, this also applies to slaking (I think?).

    • @MoxieBoosted
      @MoxieBoosted  2 місяці тому +2

      Covert cloak doesn't block the crits lol

  • @giancarloandretorresguzman7717
    @giancarloandretorresguzman7717 2 місяці тому

    I remember using Raikou on my series 10 Palkia team. It had an AV with thunderbolt, snarl, scald and something else. I think it lived Lando-I’s earth power.

  • @gamebustonaut3171
    @gamebustonaut3171 2 місяці тому +1

    i consider ultra beasts and paradoxes (which might not be correct) to be "sub-legendaries" because they're presented as legendary in their game stories, and they have the stats to hold up

  • @SoggyWafflesXp
    @SoggyWafflesXp 2 місяці тому +5

    Honestly, that ice horse deserve to be bad after what it did in Gen 8.

  • @Jasocova
    @Jasocova 2 місяці тому +3

    when he said to double check the subscribe, i thought "nah, I'm in the good side here". I was not. :')
    I am sorry, uncle Moxie, now it's done :')

  • @randomguy5339
    @randomguy5339 Місяць тому +1

    Honestly why can't game freak just give regigigas a second ability to swap to that's basically the opposite of slow start where he has 1.3 extra attack for 5 turns, or a cumulative of 3 or 2 turns before he gets a permanent 1.3 attack boost?
    They did him so dirty that in pokemon legends arceus where there were no abilities they still forced slow start upon him.

  • @Brandon_Hardie
    @Brandon_Hardie 2 місяці тому +1

    As someone whos favourite pokemon out of their respective groups are raikou, bulu, and wo chien, this is truly a tragedy :(

  • @christiancinnabars1402
    @christiancinnabars1402 2 місяці тому +1

    Silvally (and I guess Type: Null by proxy) is what you get when you look at Arceus, and decide: what if I take away _everything_ that makes this thing viable. Recovery? Gone. Priority moves? Gone. Calm Mind? Gone. Freaking Earthquake? Hope you don't want to run a physical set (even though Multi-Attack is physical and it _at least_ has Swords Dance - take that, Solgaleo!).

  • @MorkerNK
    @MorkerNK 2 місяці тому +1

    I think Regice may actually have a really useful niche in snow teams or just in general. It's bulk ain't bad at all, and yep, it's typing holds him back, but then again, Tera.
    Also, 100 spA isn't that bad either, it's workable as a long term poke, specially in VGC. I don't see lt having any success in Singles tho. Maybe in the lower tiers

  • @ScumSookar
    @ScumSookar 2 місяці тому +1

    Fun fact: Guzzlord is a 5 star raid in Pokémon GO, which usually is Pokémon that's strong enough that you absolutely need 3-5 people to bring it down.
    Most players can solo Guzzlord, or do 80%+ damage alone. If you're going to rely on HP for bulk, you have to go the Blissey route and max it out and give it a typing that's not going to be obliterated by a sneeze from a fairy.

  • @chillwill2918
    @chillwill2918 13 днів тому

    I just subscribed. Also this is the first time I've watched one of your videos.

  • @nman423nj
    @nman423nj 2 місяці тому

    Would love to see who you think would be good in an upcoming restricted format of Gen 9.

  • @qwoz2327
    @qwoz2327 2 місяці тому

    considering the 135 sp.a + speed combo flutter mane technically is a miraidon if you squint !

  • @phatnana2379
    @phatnana2379 2 місяці тому

    Uxie may be useless in VGC but it was a Mon I used A LOT in Gen-7 OU and UU! Annoyingly bulky Mon with a Ground immunity and an even more annoying move-pool with Stealth Rock, T-Wave, Screens, Yawn, Toxic, U-Turn, Foul Play, Heal Bell, Memento
    It's definitely was REALLY passive but it could do some stuff other Mons couldn't

  • @jackson4672
    @jackson4672 12 днів тому

    I found Azelf to be useful on my Esparta w/ Speed Boost skill swap Regigias team, as I could use U-Turn as Esparta after skill swapping, then switching to Azelf. Azelf, with a normal gem and using protect on Regigias, Azelf could nuke any opponent that wasn't rock, ghost, or steel.

  • @KirbyCuteKing
    @KirbyCuteKing 2 місяці тому

    As someone who tries their absolute best to make use of alcremie in battle with gamefreak also removing mystical fire from her moveset for some dumb stupid reason I feel the pain of my favourite not being viable, also decidueye being cursed as an alola pokemon having a higher special defence than speed

  • @deepzekrom5557
    @deepzekrom5557 2 місяці тому +1

    The Silvally part hurt, cus on gen 8 I basically used it in every team to some success. He is a funny guy

  • @supernerdworld8532
    @supernerdworld8532 2 місяці тому

    I just thought now that someone sctually had to figure out the freaking braille puzzle without help at some point. And if i didnt like the 4 rewards that much when i got it in the easy way, just imagine that person. 😂

  • @laterferaligatr2947
    @laterferaligatr2947 2 місяці тому

    Once again, i use Technician Fez in singles. Swords Dance, Double Kick, Dual Wingbeat, Poison Tail. Takes a buncha mons by surprise

  • @XxMaxwellxX01
    @XxMaxwellxX01 2 місяці тому

    Yo keep the descriptions of moves on screen longer please, i keep having to run that back cause im on like windows 95 for my brain

  • @XanXinGames
    @XanXinGames 2 місяці тому +5

    Then there are the legendaries that are too powerful.
    Edit: The steamed ham memes are everywhere!!

  • @robotto86
    @robotto86 Місяць тому +1

    Bro the transitions between mons are crazzzzzy

  • @f0xyplayz_yt307
    @f0xyplayz_yt307 2 місяці тому

    during the snail section i thought i was hearing stuff when meteor heard was in the bg, man im too adicted to sonic adventure 2

  • @gigalodon14
    @gigalodon14 2 місяці тому +1

    Articuno is like one of the best pokemon in japanese Red & Green but it also had an actual Special Attack and Blizzard was completely busted in that game (especially in a 3v3 format)

  • @FlygonkingVGC
    @FlygonkingVGC 2 місяці тому

    13:23 isn’t this just incin and amoongusses baby. U get grass an pollen puff from amoonguss and snarl, the dark type, and attack drops from incin. I got it to master ball tier

  • @cbuttyvgc
    @cbuttyvgc 2 місяці тому +55

    Babe wake up big edited vid dropped

  • @babysinclairfan
    @babysinclairfan 26 днів тому

    Didn't Therian Tornadus see play in rain builds in gen 6? I remember seeing it

  • @presidenttogekiss635
    @presidenttogekiss635 2 місяці тому +1

    I mean, I think Tornadus lucks out, since it has both a form dominant in VGC and another one in singles.
    Whereas thundurus therian isnt nearly as good.

  • @619Slipk
    @619Slipk 2 місяці тому +2

    Raikou was waaaaaay better then Entei when they came out
    Just saying because at any moment you mentioned this would look only at the current competitive scene and you mentioned Regieleki's past success
    Justice for Raikou

  • @ItsReallyColdOutside
    @ItsReallyColdOutside 2 місяці тому

    I think that the lake trio were used in gen 4 as rain setters. Specially uxie and azelf (if I'm not mistaken)

    • @fippywip
      @fippywip 2 місяці тому

      ive used uxie more than any other legend in gen 9 and i think its great would highly recommend trying it out

  • @adnagapot
    @adnagapot 2 місяці тому

    The most notable thing to me about sylvally is that stab explosion throwing a wrench in lickylicky's status as the only normal type with stab explosion (aside from smeargle)

    • @argonburnspink1441
      @argonburnspink1441 2 місяці тому +2

      i mean in terms of STAB explosion then alolan golem technically has the highest damaging explosion using its ability galvanise bringing explosion to 300 BP from 250, and gaining STAB from the move becoming electric type.

  • @Mijzelffan
    @Mijzelffan 2 місяці тому

    I don't think ice type is the only problem glastrier has, it's also forced to run icicle crash, an inaccurate move with middling base power. If it got an ice type close combat or something it would probably jump up a bit in viability on trick room teams