3 Motorcycle Tires to Transform Handling - Best of 2022
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- Bored of your motorbike? Switching tires will bring the biggest change for the cheapest price. Here are three motorcycle tires with serious transformative power:
Pirelli Diablo Rosso IV - frt9.co/o0dzhj
Michelin Road 6 - frt9.co/w8poax
Bridgestone Battlax BT-46 - frt9.co/hybpuk
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I like how he gives common sense advice and through scientific explanation... not simply praising the most expensive gear and exotic materials average riders won't benefit from even if they could afford it.
I'm a h rated tire user that changes his own tires and balance, coats 220 machine. Absolutely wonderful
Absolutely love a completely useless video 👍👍😅
@@peterlabiak1051 How do you find it useless?
The common sense advice isn't exactly PG-13. How many FN videos can you recall where he didn't refer to male reproductive organs or sex in one way or another?
@@exothermal.sprocket Well, how many 13 year olds are riding motorcycles in the first place?
Now, when Fortnine uploads videos more often, the only thing I miss are Ryan’s moto-vlogs (especially those where he was just riding around on his v-strom and showing cool roads, casually talking about various subjects, sharing his opinions etc.)
He moto vlogged?? Link please?
Look up older videos 5 years ago.
so consistently entertaining!!
The bike reviews were very cool as well.
I love the moto vlogs as well but i think the corporate big wigs are intimated by his reviews. He hates press days and definitely cannot be brought by manufacturers who are looking to bathe in the sunshine. His reviews have been a huge influence on half the riding gear i have especially the Alpinestars Toucan boots which are unbelievably comfortable whilst still being a very safe boot. I am also saving for the Tutlelite air vest. Never change RF9 and thanks as always.
2:37 I appreciate how deep his deep V tee got as he talked about Pirelli making the deepest V in the industry. This is the kind of attention to detail/humor that keeps me coming back
Yess😂😂
"The only way to have a piece of rubber cost you more is to break a condom." THE best writing on YT.
😂😂 for real 😂😂
I was just about to say that. 🤣
I guffawed at that lol
I feel this the only channel on UA-cam keeping it's content at highest quality. There is much to learn from each of their videos and their jokes are hilarious. They always crack me up. Ryan you're the best and I have been following your videos for years now and I still enjoy them as much as I did when I first started watching them. Kudos to you guys. I hope this stays golden forever.
Hey brother did you win something too. Just wondering if it's a scam?
@@SS--CAL Very much a scam, don't entertain.
@@SS--CAL man it definitely is a scam....
Tend to agree.
Please... just stop with these comments. "WOW UR PRODUCTION SOO GUUUD!!!"
Thank you for the same comment as all the other bots.
Love that Ryan is rocking a DEEP V NECK for today's video when talking about DEEP V tire profiles. Well played sir. Brilliant visual pun! !!
I was going to say the same thing
I came to the comments to find this post.
Awesome observation, Mr. - I missed that. Agree that F9 is the king of puns!
Nah he just knows how to rock a v neck
with some content creators i would say its coincidence. not him.
At this point I just can't imagine how a show so good can continue to get better each and every episode.
How come that a guy with a background in selling motor bikes and making UA-cam videos is by far Internet's best presenter of science and tech stuff like this? I cannot even remotely comprehend the amount of work, skill and talent that went into making this.
Absolutely amazing stuff, Ryan (and team), and please keep up with it.
A degree in Physics helps
I'm sure you've seen all the internet presenters of science and "tech stuff like this".
Shut up
@@MrPainfulTruth I‘ve seen many. Some are as brilliant, but there’s nobody amongst them who talks motor bike stuff like Ryan. Take Ryan’s „Invisibility training 101“ as an example to see what I mean - I don‘t know any presenter that would have packed so much helpful information and advice in such a surprising and entertaining way in a motor bike safety video. If you do, please share.
Sorry for my poor English that allows to understand „tech stuff like this“ in multiple ways.
Check out Ryan's video on the Ducati Desert X ... serious & funny at the same time, but the time & expertise put into that is quite impressive.
Hands down the highest quality motorcycle channel ever. Provide free knowledge and doesn't beg viewers to subscribe and purchase merchandise for raffle giveaways.
I went from stock standard Dunlop's to the michelin Road 5 and there was a HUGE improvement. My Tracer GT felt loads more responsive and a smoother ride too, like the suspension was buffed. I never thought tyres would make such a difference. manufacturers shipping $20k bikes with bad tyres to save money but surely isn't worth making a great bike feel like it's riding in mud. If I ever buy a new bike again I'll make sure it comes with some decent rubber. Great vid as always, Thanks Fortnine!
This is so true.
Did you know that some original equipment tyres sometimes use a lower capability mix? This was true in the past decades and was often written about in published magazines. Sportsbike reviews would often give the tip of replacing the OE, original equipment, tyres as soon as possible.
And some OE tires had slightly different part number than their regular version. I don't know if they still do this but it's possible.
I had a couple of Honda Fireblades and they were improved a bit by fitting Bridgestone Supersport and Pirelli Diablo Corsa tyres. Great cold weather road grip as well as occasional track days and getting my knee down.
I had a front puncture once as I was leaving the race track. A tire guy fitted a front race tire. Omg the bike was falling into corners. It wanted to be on its side. That was my first surprising experience of tires. The tire was so pointy that the bike just wanted to be on this side.
I used those for years on my CBR, and it just never gave a crap about wet roads.
In comparison, my new Suzuki GT gets wiggly on stock Dunlops, so I need to get them switched out ASAP because it's going to be a soggy year.
Road 5 or new the 6 are ideal for sport touring bikes which might also hit rainy weather on a major tour...
The Road 6's are working well for me. One of the best things is that compared to the Metzelers that came on it, they are quiet. Another nice thing about the Michelins is that the tread grooves are molded in such a way that they widen as they wear, improving rain performance as the silica loses effectiveness. Sure, the Michelins are expensive, but I know from personal experience what a high side incident feels like, and I'm not interested in repeating that episode. Especially at my age.
Highsides are sad
quiet? what do you ride and what helmet/earplugs do you use that you can hear tire noise?
+120% Been there done that (highside) and still got the nagging injuries as a result. YOU CAN"T PUT A PRICE ON SAFETY and I know first hand the Road 5/6 can't be beat for the colder, wet months.
@@gwot Yes, it is a marketing robot.
Road 6, interesting. I've been using the 5s and even for an average rider as myself, they give sooooo much confidence
My FZ6 Fazer is still armed with the Road 5's I mounted on it when I got it two years ago, going strong and super grippy even in the rain. Really good stuff.
You need to ride more! 😀
When I used the road 5 I went through 3-4 rears a year 1-2 fronts ... absaloutly amazing rubber
@@johnnyblue4799 Nah they're doing ok. I had Road 5 before taking a punt on Road 6, the Road 5 last that little bit longer where the road 6 corner better.
The road 5 is the perfect tire for the FZ6R.
I got one of those this summer, and I'm still rocking the BT45's the previous owner put on it around a decade ago.... I'm planning on grabbing some much less sketch road 6s for next season.
Makes me feel even better about expensively mounting Road 6s to my Multistrada yesterday!
I've got them on my Versys 1000 and ride in the English Lake District. They're worth it.
@@lovelessissimo your point being? They aren't puncture proof.
@@sinuslebastian6366 Exactly, still round rubber filled with air.
Exact same situation.. mounted on my 2010 Multi and they ride great
Added them to my 2009 ST1300 2 weeks ago, what an awesome upgrade they are!
Dido on worth every penny, or should I say dollar.
I bought Pirelli Diablo Rosso lll tyres about a year ago (MT07). They changed how my bike handles drastically for the better. Would recommend.
Creative drawing on the chalkboard, man the clever wittiness of Ryan never gets old
Wasn’t sure if anybody else noticed this 🤣
Last year I drove with old tyres, felt insecure cornering. This year mounted new road 5 and I'm able to lean more with pillion passenger than before all alone. And I think the tyres are not yet worn in really. Great stuff, it transformed my bike and the way I ride
I am still loving the Road 4s. Michelin makes remarkable tires.
I never lost an edge with my pilot 4s. I had chatters maybe 5 times but only at steep leans. But that’s also on a supermoto.
Once again, wow.
Well done guys. I could dribble on for an hour about how great this 7 minute video is.
The Michelin animation is the most I’ve ever understood one of Ryan’s deep dive scientific explanations. I suspect production now has a new tool in their incredible production tool box.
Please do more with motorbike tires, so many people ask me to, but I'm just not a good enough rider to test them properly!
Amazing content as always
Hello Jonathan! Have been watching your channel for all things tyre related! When this video popped up, the first thing that came to my mind is @Tyre Reviews
Pleasantly surprised to see you here!
Keep pumping quality content both of you @Ryan & @Jonathan
Support from India 🇮🇳
A collab with you two would be pretty awesome.
@@fenrir7969second this
I just ordered the Bridgestone Battlax BT46s because it’s the only vintage size tire anyone keeps in stock. I’m happy someone is doing that. It makes me happy.
What do you think of them nearly a year later?
@@Michael-Masi-2021 I put 4500 miles on them and they don’t even look worn. Love them. Grip is really good even in the rain.
@@Cologne_Trooper thanks for the feedback. Torn between Michelin Road 6 and these. Riding Kawasaki ZX-4R in an area that is often wet and often has sand or gravel on roads.
I haven't tried the Road 6 yet but the 5 already made me so much more confident that the 6 will be my next tyre of choice!
I don’t even ride motorcycles and I absolutely love your channel!
I love learning while also being entertained, and you do both amazingly well! I may not ride a motorcycle, but that doesn’t make learning about them any less interesting!
I feel like I started to understand why people are addicted to motorcycles after I rode a Yamaha scooter throughly the winding roads off the eastern coast of Taiwan back in 2010. It may not have been a motorcycle, but for my first time riding even a scooter, going 80-90km/hr was plenty enough risk and adrenaline for me while bombing up/down narrow mountain Taiwanese roads.
…Also every country should have dedicated scooter/motorcycle lanes! They would encourage so many more people to try, and also increases safety astronomically! It sure helped me out the first few days while getting use to riding a scooter. Also, if anyone gets the chance to go to Taiwan, get a motorcycle or even a scooter and enjoy Taiwans absolutely breathtaking rural mountain roads! Maybe the best experience of my life to be honest!
In the UK the big push right now is to make bus lanes available to bikes. At the moment it's down to local councils and can see you ridding in the bus lane for a few miles before having to move out again. Trying to explain that letting a bike move ahead decreases traffic for everyone doesn't seem to work.
As for you riding a scooter, two wheels is two wheels. I don't care if it's a 50cc twist and go or a 2500cc Triumph Rocket, it's a bike and you're a biker. Brother.
@@gerardmontgomery280 In London we can use the red route bus lanes controlled by TFL, but not the others as you rightly said are controlled by the local councils which are pro cyclists & anti motorcyclist.
I've commuted into London for the past 23 year, motorcycle couriered in London 4 years before that.
It's the best/quickest way to get about but like all other ICE vehicles we being nailed down to where we can go now by the green thing.
A scooter going 80-90 is definately a motorcycle. I care for all two-wheelers, though - from 50cc to as far as you wanna go.
In Norway, we have access to bus lanes. Much better than lane splitting, but know that cars might still try to sneak into it as well.
Getting into this whole two wheeled thing is fairly new to me, and I kinda just assumed that most motorcyclists would consider a 125cc-155cc scooter as not really much more than a convenient way to commute. Going 90km on the straight sections was about as fast as it would go, and to be honest that was more than enough excitement for me at the time, hah!
All I know is riding a scooter while winding down beautiful and empty rural Taiwanese roads was almost a religious experience. Just such an unbelievably fun, yet peaceful ride.
I still don’t understand why countries like Canada, Uk, and the USA don’t look at places like Taiwan, who have embraced scooters, bikes, and motorcycles, as a model of how to implement and encourage more environmentally friendly modes of transportation especially when they are yelling and screaming about the climate… It isn’t rocket science, when you build safe, convenient, and space efficient infrastructure, way more people will switch to taking those modes of transportation…
Also those Taiwanese traffic lights that count down with numbers as to when the lights will change, are absolutely brilliant! Every country needs to switch to those! I found that way fewer drivers miss timed when when they should slowdown or continue through an intersection.
The only downside I really found to riding on two wheels is the incredible amount of dirt, dust, and smog that sticks to you! I had to buy one of those long sleeve sports shirts just to keep my arms clean! Yeah, I should have worn some protective gear in all honesty, but I was travelling and didn’t expect to spend a month riding a scooter for 2-12 hours a day bombing up and down the mountain roads. Also congrats to the bus drivers and how unbelievably skilled they are behind the wheel. They somehow make it up and down the tiny road that’s literally blasted out of the side of a cliff of Taroko Gorge! Seriously look up pictures of the Taroko Gorge’s road! I tried to avoid most of it as it was busy with tour buses and tourists, but the roads leading off it within the mountains and eastern Taiwanese coast, were a drivers dream!
If anyone here ever has a chance to visit Taiwan, get out of the cities into the mountains and/or east coast, you won’t regret it!
Random question do scooters and motorcycles share similar engines? I always just assumed most scooters, even those bigger than 50cc’s, had engines much smaller than even the smallest average modern motorcycle… I’m now guessing that’s incorrect? I was damn scared when I was hitting 90km/hr on the straightaways, so mad respect to you guys who can handle some of those real monsters on two wheels!
@@letthetunesflow Great tips, dude! Thanks! I want to see a lot of Asia sometime, and Taiwan is pretty accessible.
You don´t tell why you were afraid of going fast on the scooter. Motors are shared across a variety of bores, but typically the 50cc engines are tuned down 80-125cc engines.
Why we care about other 2-wheelers is a different story, and has nothing to do with engine displacement. We are vulnerable compared to other drivers. So we stick together and care for eachother.
Nevermind the "skills" some riders present. You only need to know your own limitations and act accordingly. Wish for your safe travels, mate!
The Road 6s are brilliant. Wife's got them on her Street Triple, she says they are the best thing she's ever ridden on. 😳
Poor guy 🤣
@@mortaljorma69 🥹
Oops!
😂 riding Black rubbercompound!! 😝
Is she single? (Can't resist a bad joke, absolutely don't mean anything by this.)
Road 5's on my FZ-07 and it literally changed the amount of confidence I have in the bike. I even had some icy conditions come up down a canyon and I faired WAAAY better than friends on other tires.
I tried out this combo on a tight mountain pass - quite good! But the same road later the same day on my MT09 SP (tuned and maintained by a true pro and former Superbike champion) on S22’s took the experience to a whole new level😎🏁🏁
F9 toma mate, como toda persona de bien.
"Pick one, mount one and ride it" Words to live by.
Most serious and mature youtube channel in the best way possible 💚
Awesome to see Ryan with a mate while he does the explanations!
I have the Road 5's on my '14 FZ-09 and I love them, especially in wet weather. I've gotten almost 20k miles out of my last set so I'll definitely be going with the Road 6's when these 5's are done.
What else have you tried? I have the Metzeler M7RR on my Z900 and thinking about Road 6 as my next tires
20k miles?! wtf 🙆🙆🙆 the Bridgestone s22 that came on my 22 mt09sp only lasted 2.5k miles 😭😭
How on earth were you able to get 20k out of them!? Mine were great until 6 and needed to be replaced at 8-9
The Michelin Road 6 is phenomenal. I never had the fives but I just mounted a set of Road 6. pretty sure it’s gonna remain my go to tire.
@@JoaoSilva-gs5jb I believe it. I'm currently at over 13,000 miles on my Road 5's and they still have a good amount of tread left.
Tires made so much more of a difference than I expected. I switched to Michelin Road 6's on my Super Duke R, and the change in handling was noticeable immediately, even to a non-professional rider like me. They're not cheap (in fact you'd be hard-pressed to find a more expensive tire), but their performance is borderline unbelievable. Not to mention, the lifespan of a Road 6 rear tire is on the order of 15k miles, depending on your riding style. Front tire lasts even longer. If you compare that to some of the more budget options, which are typically lasting from 4,000 to 8,000 miles, and factor in the tire change costs, you're pretty much breaking even in the long run.
I've found the same thing, my mt10 came with battle axe tires new, which only lasted 4500 miles.!.
Second set was pilot road 5s, got about 10000 miles out of the rear, 3rd rear tire is a road 6.. I live in the N.W. so a lot of cold wet year round riding.. they work for me.!.
I'm loving them on my 2014 SDR
Riding year round in Seattle, the Road 6's are beasts. The price tag is high, but worth it if you're a commuter like me.
Glad to hear the BT46 getting the praise it deserves. I've been running the BT45s for years, and already love them, so I can't wait to mount up the 46s.
Used the BT45 over 25 years ago as a motorcycle courier in London on a Honda NTV650 great tyre 👌
Mecanic advised me to get BT46's on my first bike last year (suzuki gs500, in the Netherlands whete it rains a lot too). Have only had one loss of traction leaning in hard in a small 90° turn with tyres not completely warm but it just slid a bit. I guess I can feel the lean angle barrier at around 45 degrees of lean that he talked about tho, I never have feedback at more than 40°, but I thought that was completly on me, didn't imagine tyre could be part of that lol
@@SwainixFPV ye i got the bt46 on my rear for a while now and ill definitely switch back. Hate how suddenly when u blast through a corner at 100kmh leaning very hard into it, the bike suddenly feels sloppy. Definitely didnt have it with the old tire...
@@_puddel_9040 i don't really mind with the price of the tyre and the grip it offers when commuting under changing conditions, but I'll want a different tyre the day I get a more capable bike personally (power and suspension/chassis wise)
@@derekcable Such a classic combo, I see all the Revere's and Hawk gt's riding them 😂 Bt45 on my last two NTV650's and now rocking them on my Hawk gt
I'm waiting for the FortNine video that tells us how to scientifically wash our bikes - and why we've been doing it wrong all along.
Bennets did a pretty good video on motorcycle cleaners at least :0
Soap and water is a conspiracy. Brake cleaner and 200 grit sandpaper is all you need. ~RF9
@@FortNine My Versys 650 has never looked better, thanks!
I always thought washing the bike was Mother Nature's job....
@@FortNine Sandblaster for those tough to reach spots.
I've been running Michelin Road 6 GTs on my VFR800 for almost a month now, and the handling is absolutely sublime, with really smooth and stable cornering with 40° lean angle (I'm not yet comfortable leaning further on a new bike).
The GT version is also designed to have a stiffer carcass which resists deformation, so it maintains optimal grip.
It's the middle of winter so we haven't had any rain yet for wet handling testing yet, but it's got the great reputation inherited from Pilot road 4 and 5.
Michelin tyres do seem to last way longer than most other brands. If you get more km out of your tyre, then when you factor that into the price, the ask seems much more reasonable. Good braking performance on a cold wet day could be the difference between a close call and a solid hit.
@@calebgriffiths9062 I paid the equivalent of $360 and i'm likely to get 20-30 000km out of them. compared to $250 tyre sets that are rated to last 12 000km. I'm more than getting my moneys worth.
Tyres are something that you really get value out of investing in the top of the range.
And as you said, it's an investment into safety, which saves costs of insurance excess, maintenance costs and even hospital bills at the very least, and may even avoid situations which might cause death.
I live in Denmark, where the summer is the best week of the year, so the cold weather performance is the real thing to look for around here. I have always had the Michelin Pilot Road tyres as the first pick, given they made the size that fit whatever bike i had at that moment. But that is just my preference. As one of my friends put it - "A normal rider will never ride hard enough to tell one mordern tyre from another, so pick the one you think looks the bedst" - I think there is a lot of truth in that, as long as it's the latest model from that brand.
I'm finding myself landing on Pilot Road as well for all-year riding in (low-altitude) Switzerland.
Also the Dunlop Mutant looks promising.
@@banzobeansDunlop are not good tyres.
Rosso IV are great all conditions tyres. Used em in the rain and with temperatures below 0 degrees, never felt more secure on my bike. Super reccomended! Got 5k km on mines and they are holding pretty well too
What about diablo 3
Bike ?
The Michelin ‘Road’ series of tyres is awesome. But here in Australia, they cost a massive amount. $360 for a single rear. A set of chain and sprockets is about the same. But crashing does cost more…. So I have been using them for years.
Just the road 6's? Interesting, where in Australia are you finding a new series of road sport tyre in 190/55 under 350?
That AUD you’re talking about. It’s an FX issue, not a tire issue. 1AUD=0.68EUR
@@KaironexCryziz no that was the Road 5. The six is more.
@@steampunk888 Yes, I know that our dollar is weak again the Euro. However the ‘Road’ series are expensive relative to the price of other tyres here.
@sourand jaded I get 20k out of a rear tyre with my 1250. Although by then, the sides are worn and the middle still isn’t.
Finally, another tire video, last one was like from 2017
I doth protest! ua-cam.com/video/duwIOAFexIw/v-deo.html ~RF9
Currently running road 6s on my 2016 XSR900 and it's a great everyday rider tire for commuting and spirited riding(with tire psi adjusted properly) and so far over 3k miles and still plenty of tread left for aggressive riding. You can definitely feel the bikes response and what the tires are doing which is important to me. Yeah they're expensive but your life is too, don't cheap out on tires if you ride hard 👍
Try the S22’s next time - you will be pleasantly surprised 😎🏁🏁
@@SirMountainpass When I bought my bike used the S22s it had were fantastic and handled/turned in like it was on rails. Only problem is I didn't know how many miles they had on them originally so they didn't last too long. (I'm a pretty heavy guy and was probably running 34f/36r for more grip though)
Good video 👍 Confidence is critical when riding a bike. My two favourite brands have ended up being Michelin and Metzeler, two very differently constructed tyres, that need the suspension settings altered to suit them - tyres have rebound/deflection properties (and dimensions)that have to be catered for to get the most out of them, something that's often forgotten.
I've been trying different tires and have had both Michelin Road 5s and Metzler Roadtec Z6s.
And the Michelins are very good tires with the Metzlers coming in a close 2nd (even above Pirelli Angels) with a large enough savings on price that if I'd consider staying with the Metzlers over the Michelins.
Trying some Dunlop Roadsport 2s right now and they are noticeably slipperier when cold and in cold weather now that it gets into the low 30s regularly.
what do you think is the best tire for a kawasaki z800 pls
Learning a bit about the physics of a motorcycle improved my riding big time! Because when something happens, I know why in most cases! Also you will avoid many things that make your ride dangerous and unconfortable. In my case : Foot/body positioning, Levers positioning, Shifting and a lot of maintenance tips. Channels like this are gold in terms of useful info and entertainment value also.
BTW : I have the BT 46 on my old 94 XJ and they work really good for my fun rides and comuting/city riding.
Also : The rubber joke at 4:57... LMAO
Glad to see someone tried them on an XJ. I have a 1980 XJ650 and need to order tires ASAP and keep wanting to try the BT46. My only concern is I saw a lot of people mention they don't last too long maybe 5k-6k miles. How have they been for you? I am definitely a more aggressive rider and I also want something that can handle some dirt/gravel/rocky roads occasionally. Don't want horrible wet performance but truth is unless I chance it and get stuck in the rain on my way home I normally leave the bike in the garage if it's gonna rain. Other tires I've been looking at are Dunlop D404, Metzler ME888
I hoon twisties.
The Road 5 & 6 were THE biggest noticeable improvements I have experienced in 50 years of hooning.
@@jonathangaliano2617 Apologies for the delayed response, but I seldom ride due to frequent rain in my area, as I prefer not to ride in wet conditions. Regarding performance, the Bridgestones suit my riding style well: commuting in city traffic and the occasional weekend ride, mostly at slow cornering speeds. Honestly, I'm not sure how these tires would fare with a more aggressive riding style. However, it's worth noting that good tires tend to wear out quickly, which I suppose is a trade-off one must accept.
It's amazing how you answer questions that I didn't know were questions with answers that I cannot understand. Super cool.
Before the question... My answer was,
"Tire good".
This channel is fantastic. I don’t even own a bike but I’m glued to every episode. Please don’t stop. 👍
Maybe it’ll be an incentive to try it? 😉
@@troyjollimore4100 God, I wish. I’m 55 and have the road sense of a Mackerel. I’d be an organ donor in less than a week. 😔
@@SlowCarToChina Well, I’m about to turn 50, but I have the road sense of a tuna (WAY better than a mackerel! 😄) and I used to ride when I was a teen. Not gonna lie, the road sense IS important. Most accident compilation videos you see involve riders that don’t have any. But depending on where you are, it’s not so bad as long as you ride defensively. Plus a MSF course counts for a lot…
As an Argentine, I approve the mate on the table. 🇦🇷
Huge fan of the Michelin Road series. Amazing grip in cool and wet but also held up on the track in 40+ C temps (on an 1100 V4 Aprilia Tuono). It’ll take a lot to make me change these even if the cost is way high.
I use the Rosso I've on my hypermotard, great tyres, great vid
I have the Michelin Road 6 GTs on my VFR. Love them. They are good in British weather and (for me) on track. I don't exactly get a knee down (the hero studs always scrape first).
Have a set of Road 6 from Fortnine in my Garage now to go on my VFR. Have to replace the Road 4s. Great for Canadian weather as well.
The Diablo Rossi tires came with my Speed Twin. Then, about a month ago I switched to the Michelin Road 6 and they were a TOTAL game changer. Really. I didn’t think tires made such a difference. But they really do!
Which rossos?
@jaredkessler which Rossos?
I just replaced Bridgestone S22 hypersport tires with Road 6 GT sport touring tires (2021 Hayabusa). No noticeable difference in grip, which is a huge compliment to the Road 6.
Interesting, I went from the Road 5 to the S22 because I was only getting about 4500 miles out of the Road 5s on my GSX-S1000.
Drivin with the Road 6 since may on my F 800 S......best Tire i had so far. Insane grip when wet.
Absolutely love the Road 6.
Buena y muy detallada explicación de cómo funcionan estos 3 neumáticos… y bien explicado porque los neumáticos de fabricación diagonal no son para alta velocidad tampoco! Aguante ese mate en el desk!!!
Me llamó la atención también, de donde habrá salido? porque toma? me gustaria saber.
I noticed the mate too!! Super fun to see him partaking in the culture
I'm not sure which I like more, the physics lesson or the new tyres. Anyway, thanks Ryan!
Nu tires are the best
That was genuinely a great video Ryan.
I've been riding on my Battlax 46s for a year and almost 10'000 miles and I gotta say that they're great. They're so much better than the standard cheap chinese rubber of my Brixton 125. I'm so glad that I've put these on.
How long do you think they will last?
I’ve just put some BT46’s onto my old Varadero 125 replacing the Pirelli Scorpion Trail’s ad I only use it on the road. The difference is really noticeable and confidence inspiring, especially for a new rider!
Nice. I’ll be installing some Bridgestone Battlax AX41s on mine on Wednesday, got a low mileage Vara 125 (3600 miles as at now) that still has the stock tyres it came out of the factory with. Hopefully that makes the bike feel better
I got a Road 6 to replace my rear recently because of this video. It's a great tire, but the Road 5s are significantly cheaper if you can find them in the size you need. Wonderful video!
I've been rocking Michelin Roads since the PR3 and I thought THOSE were transcendental, but the generational improvements since then have shocked me every time. I can't wait to wear my Road 5s out and get a set of 6s, commuting in the rain's about to get even zanier
If the speed of tire technology has you gasping for breath, imagine how you'll feel when cliche idioms like "rocking" (used to indicate wearing or using) become embarrassingly passe--as they did last year ;- )
@@rayfriedman9625 feel better?
@@johnrobinson1328 Because you responded to my comment? Not especially. Was that your intention?
@@rayfriedman9625 No. But thanks for asking.
Possibly the best episode F9 has done since I've become aware of the channel! Both the writing and the content were exceptional! I even love seeing the slip angle in action during the last cornering segment. It was truly educational. TY!
Excellent as always! I would love to see a rundown on tires that just as good for getting to the trails as riding on them.
i listened to his engine evalation driving for about an hour.... so informative and still kept my attention.....kudos.... currently looking for a repalcement tyre for my KTM 1290 R (2016) so ill take the advice at the end of this video.. looks like im going with the ROAD 6 hahaha but im gonna try the rosso.....back after 7000 KM
I'm always amazed how much a new set of tires makes the bike feel so wonderful. It's like as the tires wear gradually I just slowly come to expect less performance from it, so gradually I don't even notice the difference until I get new rubber!
4:55 "the only way for rubber to cost you more is to break a condom" I spit my morning coffee all over the back deck! One of the best zingers ever!!!
I mounted BT46s on my RE Interceptor 650 and have been very happy! It’s difficult to find tires in the size I need, and they’re such an improvement over the stock Ceat tires. All of the squirreliness I felt on the stock rubber was completely erased.
Great to know. I might pick these up for my RE GT 650
Do you went with the same sizes?
@@pinkopinkopinko yes I did, same as stock
Not sure if you will see this but wondering how the tires are holding up? I am goin nuts debating about tires for my 1980 XJ650 and these are the ones I keep going back to but the ONLY thing holding me back is lots of people say they only get like 5k maybe 6k miles out of the rear.
@@jonathangaliano2617 I only have about 3000 miles on them so far, but they’re holding up great! No excess wear; still basically the same tread depth as new.
Between Pirelli Diablo Rosso IV and Michelin Road 6 there is a huge difference. Diablo Rosso IV was ready to be changed after 10 000km. It goes so well to corners in fast speed but it feels so weird in low speed, due its V-shape. Michelin Road is more beginner friendly, feels good also in low speeds and it is totaly enough for me for high speed corners. Also, it is super nice even though it's cold and raining. That video just explained me why they feel so different
Thank you, mate! Im was between both of them too.
Been driving Bridgestone BT 45 and now BT 46 on 80’s Moto Guzzi’s since early this millennium. Knee Down is no problem!! Front tire of the BT46 seems to be wearing more on heavy breaking then the 45, but grip is excellent!
Greetings from The Netherlands!
Enjoyed this video and learning about my tires. My Ducati 939 Supersport came with the Pirelli Rosso lV tires on it. and I have no complaints. they seem like great tires to me. I feel very confident with how they handle. but I have heard some people act like the Michelins Road 6 are better tires. but I think people use there Pirelli tires until they are worn out. and then when they buy New Michelins. they are comparing how they feel to there worn out Pirelli tires. I think the only way to really know which tire is better is to compare both of them bran new on the same kind of bike at the same time. going back and forth between the two. which is the UA-cam video I am hoping to find.
Once again, freakin' awesome video! It explains so much about tire design, something most people never think about much. One thing I'd like to see Ryan do now is to do a similar analysis on dual sport / adventure tires. I am considering buying a set of Motoz Tractionator GPS based on the tread design for dirt and pavement.
Same consideration for me!
Same here, on a Africa twin for me
@@duncharvst T7 here
@@allenhuling598 Have T7. Have GPSs. Can recommend.
@@mitchelbrown793 Right on, thank you, Mitchel!!
I switched from the pirelli scorpion trail 2 to the michellin road 6. It's exactly as Ryan said, the trail 2's were great on warm days when you could get your knee down, show them a cool day or water and they slide around. The road 6, I've put a hole in the knee of my waterproof trousers, so much more forgiving
I am riding the trail 2 as well. I switched to them because of the tire profile. I am no fast shooter, but suburb and city rider. And in this condition the slalom is the favourite sport. My previous tire was Battlax (I think the previous version) and I was insecure in most corners. As for the grip of trail 2. I ride down to 0°C and I experienced no slide on it. On the other hand I was slipping the Battlax more than I liked.
Those aren’t exactly comparable tires though. Pirelli’s equivalent of the Road 6 is the Angel GT II. The scorpion trail is very slightly more dirt focused than both of those previously mentioned. So it’s not so surprising you got such a noticeable handling improvement on the tarmac when you switched to the road 6.
i just got the Rosso 4s on my R3. a bit pricey $325 shipped....but they perform way better in the wet than the GPR300s
I just ordered a set of Road 6's and the rear alone was $300, that's not terrible! lol
Great review, just shifted from BT's to the Michelin RP6, a significant improvement on feel and handling, as you say temperature is all, I'm in the UK and on a VFR1200f. Thank you for the continuing good quality output and humour.
I've spent the last couple months mulling over which tires I'll be buying to replace the less then amazing OEM tires on my Kawasaki W800 and sure enough this video has immediately swayed me towards the Battlax BT46's. Big shout out to Bridgestone for making a broad range of sizes for us Average Modern Classic Enjoyeurs. But also shame on Bridgestone for not making the AX41S tires in my size because they look so cool. I'm sure the BT46 will perform better in my realistic riding situations anyway!
I'm really glad to hear of an update to the BT45. I ride vintage pretty much exclusively and have been very happy with the BT45 on my old 2-stroke Kawasaki triple. Those tires were good enough that I could keep up with most people through the corners unless they're a real operator. Next time it needs tires it's comforting to know that there's an even better tire available.
Glad you are still rocking a Kawasaki 2-stroke triple 400. I had one back in the mid to late 70's (burgundy color) and still miss it!
@@paullazarro4295 It's a fantastic bike, when it's working. Between previous-owner neglect, faulty parts, and my own incompetence, I've had awful luck with it. But my God nothing sounds like it.
Easily the best bike channel 👍
From my experience, Michelin tires are among the best and WELL worth spending a few extra clams. My Suzuki Savage is limited in tire choices due to the 15" rear and 19" front wheels. For all the matching sets i've tried since 2005, the Dunlop D404 are still the best.
*"Best" pertains to: vibration, wear duration, and overall performance.
'05 S-40/Savage chopper
I have D404's on my Yamaha V-Star and I feel the same. In fact, they've performed so well for me over the years in many different conditions (including saving my ass on some really wet roads) that I'm afraid I wouldn't have the confidence in something else to try them. But, at least Ryan explains WHY I might want to.
@@professormaddren1924 My rebel 300 came with D404s from factory, I got grip for days with such tires on a little 360lbs 300cc bike
If there was a noble prize for down to earth unbiased reviews,this guy earned it. Calling it straight down middle. No bs.👍
Thanks Ryan for your explanation, nice video!
My choice is Metzeler Roadtec 01 (cold and wet climate) Roatec 01 which I find it way superior than the P6 (I ride a 21' RT)
Another fun video, thanks Ryan! I replaced my tires on my VeeStrom 650 in 2020 with Bridgestone Battleaxe, very happy with these tires. I don't ride with knees down, too old for that. Keep on riding everyone!
The Roads are a good choice for the VStrom as well. Hard to go wrong with them if you have the $. How are the Bridgestones wearing for you?
@@MBergyman Replaced the tires in 2020, wearing very well, hope to get another 20Km from them
Wtf is Battleaxe!?
@@tallguy8452 I assume you mean 20k miles? how many miles are on them right now?
@@MBergyman Around 8K
Used the rosso 4 on road and track in a zh2 and the grip on corners is out of this world...wet or dry this tire is exceptional for this bike...keep up the great work buddy...
Zh2 comes with rosso 3
@@MattyM110 yes it does
What the gap with Rosso C 4?
@@bouyeuxalexandre2504 gap?
@@Tony_Rathe difference between the two. 3 and 4
Great vid. I was just starting to look into new tires too.
Either Michelin R6 or Pirelli Angel GTs for “spirited commuting”. I’ll have to read more about the Angels.
i just replaced my pr5 with the angel gt on my ST1300 and am incredibly impressed.
I have the angel on my commuting + touring fz6 and I love it
Hands down the best explained an most entertaining review of the Road 6 I have seen
I couldn't read all the comments but share my appreciation for Ryan's insanely deep V shirt pun while he was reviewing the Diablo Rosso IV's.
Loving the BT46 on my 1982 Suzuki GS. Way better handling and grip than the Shinkos I had.
You still liking the BT46? I've been driving myself crazy picking out tires and keep coming back to these or Dunlop D404 to save a bit of money.
Have loved my Road 5 tires on my z900, looking forward to the Road 6. Appreciate you mentioning the BT46, will have to check them out when my Yamaha Bolt needs fresh rubber, always have felt the Avon Cobra's could be better in rain.
The road 6 lasted me way longer than the 5s so I keep with them.
@@East_TX_LCR good to know! I've run Road5s for the last 3 sets on my z1000 and am going to need to replace them soon. Cold weather high speed commuting= Road 6 by the sound of it!
Just put a set of Pirelli Diablo Rosso IVs on my 2009 Street Triple. The change in handling and feel make it seem like an entirely different bike.
Are you still liking them?
I mounted some Pirelli angels on my Xmax 300, going from the "dunlop scootsmarts" to the Angels, it went from a loamy kind of "hard to lean" scooter to an agile feeling sporty bike I can lean into corners and power down S bend roads without being scared of them. For the Xmax it works great, they're nimble enough in town to avoid close hazards and still allow me to take on faster roads. I hadn't thought of the deeper profile changing the radius like that but it makes more sense now because that's exactly how these changed the handling of my Xmax.
I have been riding with the Michelin tires for the last few tire changes and they have been excellent.
My bike is 23 years old and it seems to handle better with these tires.
Great review as always! The modern tires like Rosso IV has so much grip that most street riders are not able to fully exploit them. Of course the Supercorsas will have way more grip on a track day but also be miserable on a daily street riding conditions when it's cold or wet.
The Supercorsas warm up fast and they are surprisingly good in the rain. I got caught in a torrential monsoon downpour with standing and some pretty deep running water. I was a little worried but they did way better than I ever imagined possible.
I like 80s bikes like the VFR400 NC21 and 24, and Bridgestone has been the only one to ever make good tyres in the right sizes for a matching pair.
I am so glad at least one manufacturer is still providing us with vintage sizes, there are a lot more old bikes on the road because a lot of us love these old machines.
informative and entertaining as always, great video!
The "mate" made the difference. Greetings from Argentina.
Changed from Metzeler Next OEM's on my Tiger 900GT to Michelin Road5s and the difference was amazing. It was like riding a new bike, no tramlining or tracking with any road surface that was less than perfect. Amazing grip wet or dry. I will be changing to Road 6s when these wear out. Currently at 8k miles and still a couple of thousand miles left in them. Great review
Vous comparez un pneu aventure à un pneu Sport Touring. Tout pneu sport Touring sera supérieur à un pneu d’aventure sur la route .still ride in Metzeler Z6, Z8 Interact et Roadtech 01 J’ai changé en septembre pour Michelin route 6 car elle était moins chère que la Metzeler. seulement 2000 km car la saison n’est que de 6 mois ici
@@jeanrousseau5430 ok
I've got the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 4 on my Ducati Monster 1200.
Had the Diablo Rosso 3 before and the 4 feels a lot more sticky and it gives me more confidence in corners.
Super happy with the different compounds and overall performance of the Rubber! 👍
And btw, lobe your videos! Keep up the good work!
I ran 3 sets of SuperCorsas on my Tuono before giving the Rosso IIIs a try. Hated them. Minimal improvement in mileage and wet traction. Dry traction was nowhere near as good. Went back to SCs for one set then the Rosso Corsa 2s came out and now I am on my third set of those. I really like them but haven't had them on track yet.
Might give the Rosso IV a try next time.
@saisr1 did you end up trying the Rosso IV? If so, how were they?
Yes come on ! 😅
I've got Road 5s on my NC700 and it was well worth the money. I've never had tyres that stick to road nearly as well, both dry and (especially) when wet.
What kind of milage do you have on them? I've got the same bike and they were great until 6,000 miles and had to be replaced at 8 or 9
@@redeyedfreaks I've lost track, sorry. All I can say is that I've had them for 1½ years, mostly commute part time, and some trips on open road.
@@redeyedfreaks Actually I worked it out with Google Maps. 6000km (~3700 miles)
Gotcha! Thanks for the reply. Seems like you'll get a long time of use with that set
Interesting how the Road 6 correlates rather well to the tires that came on both my old (2015) and new (2022) Vespa GTS 300s: Michelin's CityGrip (now also CityGrip 2): great overall road tire, *very* competent in heavy rain, which has been a big deal for me. As usual, your advice is is absolutely on-point: pick the gear for how you *actually* ride, as opposed to how you like to imagine yourself riding.
This is the video that made me buy the road 6, because I sucked. A little under a year later and I’m gonna go with the rosso 4 because while I still suck, I want the better cornering feelings. The road 6 served me amazing. And I’m slightly on the fence about getting another set. But I want to try new things.
The road 6 would’ve lasted me much longer than the 5-6 k miles I put them through, but burnouts are awesome and they’re showing a hell of a lot of wire
I love this guy sense of humor so much.
It isn't complicated. Fortnine drops a video so I drop what I'm doing to watch it immediately.
ive had the road 6's on my 2020 z900 for about 2 months & around 3000mi. they have been excellent so far. Predictable handling, superb in the rain & great tread life. Only cons are price, and the front tire was a little bit noisy for the first 500mi or so, but has quieted up significantly.
When I was in the trade whenever anyone asked me what the best tyre was for general use I pointed them at the pilot roads. Then they saw the price and went for BT023 or at best a T30.
So expensive, but the pilot roads are a great tyre for most riding applications in my opinion and every customer that bought a pair loved them.
You're a hero not many knows but everyone deserves.
In the UK we are not blessed with nice weather. Yep its damp & cold. I ride all year round, and have found the pilot 6 to be the best tyre. I also run pilot 3 on my sv650 which I thought was the best till the 6 came along.