Owning and driving a European Spider myself, I feel both admiring and frightened by the extent of the work on this poor specimen. Fascinating, bravo and thank you!
The sills provide the structural strength for Spiders. You might find that you need to temporarily brace the door openings (weld in the braces) to prevent the car literally folding in on itself.
I agree, I tested to see if the car is bending and if I need to create additional supports so the car does not break in half. I found that the inner sill is solid and the main structural member of the inner sill is present and doing Its job to keep the car rigid, no need for additional supports at the moment. Thank you.
Yes. As a convertible, you want to check the body is on a flat plane so to speak. It would be a rude awakening to weld in all the new rockets to find the doors won’t fit back in.
Didn't anyone tell you; Alfa 105s rust for fun. In fact most of them started to rust before they were even delivered 😀 I have one myself and we are always finding more bits to repair. I'm really looking forward to see this project unfold. Please be generous with all the detail. It's great to learn from each other. Best of luck.
Don’t worry about the amount of work , it’s gonna turn out really good and it’s gonna be really full filling and satisfying for you once you realise all the energy and love your are putting into this project ! So keep up the good work . From another Alfa owner this is great
Sad that a car ~10 years old when stored had seen that much abuse, but welcome to the ‘70’s. That’s the way it was prior to modern rust proofing and build quality. Glad it’s not worse!
Fortunately, there are a lot of good new panels available now. I restore Giulia, Duetto and GTV's as well as GTV6 in my shop Heavy Metal Alfa in Maine. The new rockers and floors from Classic Alfa and EB Spares are Excellent quality!!
I know this is a small channel but I just wanted to say I love it, great content, very few people do this sort of thing with old classic Alfas and it’s nice to see :)
Brave man love the cutting and ripping out rusty panels......I have a similar issue but not half as bad with a P1800s maybe when I retire I will have time to do the same.....I will check out your next video.....removing is always easier then repairing...
Did you brace the car before removing all of those rocker panels? Those are structural elements and the car will sag I think unless it's braced before you cut. I guess you can put the car on a frame machine afterwards to twist it back into shape though.
Oh no, that’s even worse than my Volvo 1800ES. When I bought mine, it looked good, but got worse and worse as I tore deeper into it. Same crap as on yours with scraps of steel brazed in. And covered with an inch of tar undercoat. I’m cleaning out the rust from inside the rockers now. Hey, since yours is a convertible, shouldn’t it be braced with a welded in support so the frame stays strait when you weld in new rockers?
Every car, made by Pininfarina: they all hide more rust, than you can see or expect, even if they look great. This spider isn`t the worst car. pininfarina build the Peugeot 504 Coupe and Cabriolet. My father bought one new in 1979. In 1983, this car had so much rust really everywere, it couldn`t be saved at reasonable price.
Alfa are bad for rust. I had a 74 GTV 2000 in 1987 and rather than chicken wire in yours, the previous owner used the beer cans he was drinking to fill and bog the holes.....
Bro. Please stop saying you bought the cheapest Spider in the USA. I picked up a ‘79 today for $250 (38,000 miles). Last month I got a running, titled ’79 for $1,000 and a couple of months ago I got a Graduate in great shape for $1,000. My average buy price for a running Spider is below $1,000. You paid too much, and you’re making my life hard!! 😋. Can you just say you bought the worst Spider in the US instead? Please?
Brace the door openings it could bend in.
Owning and driving a European Spider myself, I feel both admiring and frightened by the extent of the work on this poor specimen. Fascinating, bravo and thank you!
The sills provide the structural strength for Spiders. You might find that you need to temporarily brace the door openings (weld in the braces) to prevent the car literally folding in on itself.
I agree, I tested to see if the car is bending and if I need to create additional supports so the car does not break in half. I found that the inner sill is solid and the main structural member of the inner sill is present and doing Its job to keep the car rigid, no need for additional supports at the moment. Thank you.
Yes. As a convertible, you want to check the body is on a flat plane so to speak. It would be a rude awakening to weld in all the new rockets to find the doors won’t fit back in.
OMG. You are brave. Can't wait to see the next episodes.
Didn't anyone tell you; Alfa 105s rust for fun. In fact most of them started to rust before they were even delivered 😀 I have one myself and we are always finding more bits to repair.
I'm really looking forward to see this project unfold. Please be generous with all the detail. It's great to learn from each other. Best of luck.
Don’t worry about the amount of work , it’s gonna turn out really good and it’s gonna be really full filling and satisfying for you once you realise all the energy and love your are putting into this project ! So keep up the good work .
From another Alfa owner this is great
Thank you for watching! Sorry about the sound quality. Working on making that better.
Sad that a car ~10 years old when stored had seen that much abuse, but welcome to the ‘70’s. That’s the way it was prior to modern rust proofing and build quality. Glad it’s not worse!
Yes please keep going and bringing this project to us. I have a 74 Spider with similar rust that needs repairing! This is a perfect guide!
Fortunately, there are a lot of good new panels available now. I restore Giulia, Duetto and GTV's as well as GTV6 in my shop Heavy Metal Alfa in Maine. The new rockers and floors from Classic Alfa and EB Spares are Excellent quality!!
I know this is a small channel but I just wanted to say I love it, great content, very few people do this sort of thing with old classic Alfas and it’s nice to see :)
I wish I fit in those. I had one way back in the 1980's. I didn't fit, but I forced myself to drive it anyway because it was so cool. I had a '74.
Thank you 🙏🏼!
Waiting for the next video.
Glad you are saving it! There’s always more rust than you think!
Brave man love the cutting and ripping out rusty panels......I have a similar issue but not half as bad with a P1800s maybe when I retire I will have time to do the same.....I will check out your next video.....removing is always easier then repairing...
Keep going man! After you get it done properly you'll get the reward.
Still! This beauty deserves all what will be done!
Brave man. Good luck to you and thank you for sharing.
Seeing that rust I would have found a better chassis and switched your mechanicals over. You are brave!
Yes! It will turn out a real beauty!! ; just let’s ask : how much is the same or the nearest Alfa Romeo currently ?!!!
Thank you 🙏🏼
Did you brace the car before removing all of those rocker panels? Those are structural elements and the car will sag I think unless it's braced before you cut. I guess you can put the car on a frame machine afterwards to twist it back into shape though.
agree
Your doing well.
It is fair not to forget how old the car is; you said it is a 1971 ! It is as old as I am 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Salaams Khalid, yes but which is in better shape, you or the car? 😝
@@abuhamza1970 Fortunately I practise gung fu , so both me and the Romeo still are in the race.hahahahahahaha!
Thank you 🙏🏼
I hope you're good at metal fabrication. I don't think there are very many replacement panels available.
You can’t imagine what’s available. Basically every piece. I was astounded when I looked.
@@johnp4917 That's amazing.
Unfortunately, these were kind of standard repair techniques when it was done. Hope you know how to weld and fit panels. If not, better learn quickly.
Oh no, that’s even worse than my Volvo 1800ES. When I bought mine, it looked good, but got worse and worse as I tore deeper into it. Same crap as on yours with scraps of steel brazed in. And covered with an inch of tar undercoat. I’m cleaning out the rust from inside the rockers now.
Hey, since yours is a convertible, shouldn’t it be braced with a welded in support so the frame stays strait when you weld in new rockers?
The more you do, the more you'll need to do. Take the long view.
air chisel would work better.
Every car, made by Pininfarina: they all hide more rust, than you can see or expect, even if they look great. This spider isn`t the worst car. pininfarina build the Peugeot 504 Coupe and Cabriolet. My father bought one new in 1979. In 1983, this car had so much rust really everywere, it couldn`t be saved at reasonable price.
Alfa are bad for rust. I had a 74 GTV 2000 in 1987 and rather than chicken wire in yours, the previous owner used the beer cans he was drinking to fill and bog the holes.....
Bro. Please stop saying you bought the cheapest Spider in the USA. I picked up a ‘79 today for $250 (38,000 miles). Last month I got a running, titled ’79 for $1,000 and a couple of months ago I got a Graduate in great shape for $1,000. My average buy price for a running Spider is below $1,000.
You paid too much, and you’re making my life hard!! 😋.
Can you just say you bought the worst Spider in the US instead? Please?