The Wii Classic Controller
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2023
- I chat it up about the Wii Classic Controller, Wii Classic Controller Pro, their support throughout the Wii and Wii U generations and how they shaped Nintendo's current controllers.
Edited by Dominic Mattero and Scott Wozniak
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Scott's Stash is literally the main channel now
I'm glad. These videos are so nice to watch. Simple and to the point.
Wii U 20 hour video will have to wait
basically 😅
He made like 50 of these for charity.
That’s why output has been low. He’s only human afterall.
If you skip the Clubhouse Games videos like I do, yes
I like how Scott has used Scott’s Stash to talk about stuff that couldn’t get a full episode, pretty neat
It’s 20 minutes
It's TWENTY minutes. That's an episode of you ask me
This is more rambling and less skits than an episode, regardless of the runtime. I like it.
@@imasimplerugthe difference is this is 20 minutes of unscripted/unfiltered thoughts, whereas a scott the woz episode is 20+ minutes of thoroughly thought out, scripted, heavily edited content
(Also most scott the woz episodes as of late tend to focus on a more general subject than a single controller for a single console to keep things moving)
@@Quackenson No excuse for him not to have an L button video
I really miss when Nintendo would just put a bunch of random ports and slots for things they’ll maybe do in the future since it always makes for a good story
I was kinda hoping we would get some more wacky stuff to plug into the switches rails
Third party joy cons @IrreversntRex
The IR sensor on the Joy-Con was basically made for Labo and *maybe* Ring Fit, it literally doesn't do more
@@MarioFRC32 and Mario party. And 1-2 switch. That's it
@@solid477 why did you reply to me and not @irreverantrex?
I remember I bought a Wii Classic Controller Pro from a Walmart around 2015 in the Wii U days. They took a lot of time in checkout because the controller was removed from their database because they hadnt sold one in forever.
The reason analog triggers were never attempted again past the Wii Classic Controller is due to a lawsuit by a patent troll Anascape, where they sued Microsoft and Nintendo in 2006 over the violation of 12 different patents, 7 of which involved analog triggers. Nintendo lost this case in 2008, owing the troll 21mill dollars, but eventually appealed/won it in 2010. While this protects their rerelease of the gamecube controller (and I suppose the original Wii Classic), if they were to attempt a new controller with analog, they would likely face another lawsuit, with no guarantee of winning this time. Hope this helps!
Yeah, I also heard that Microsoft just eats the royalties, because at the end of the day they have the money to do so.
Imagine patenting a potentiometer. 🤦🏻♂
I wonder if the PS5 adaptive triggers are immune to this patent.
It is still ridiculous, the lack of analog triggers is the worst thing about the Switch.
Oh so when WE pirate things from Nintendo they get to have a hissy fit but if THEY pirate stuff they’ll defend themselves. Smh
I moved to Japan six years ago and I miss my best friend everyday. I dunno why, but Scott kinda reminds me of my best friend. We would have really long, in depth conversations about pointless shit like this every single day. So I like leaving these videos rolling in the background sometimes while I go about my day. It's comforting in that way. Thanks Scott.
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@@Curlyheart many jobs can require you to move around
@@Curlyheart Mind blowing revelation, I know, but not everyone moves here because they're a weeb. It's called a career my friend. Japan isn't some giant fantasy theme park to gawk at. It's just a place like anywhere else.
@@br00tulz 👏👏👏 Say it louder ! ! !
@@Curlyheart weirdo
Scott is the only person who could get comments about how he's the only person who could make a 20+ minute video about a controller
True
Scott is the only person who could get comments about how he's the only person who could get comments about how he's the only person who could make a 20+ minute video about a controller.
Scott is the only person who could get subcomments under comments about comments about how he's the only person who could make a 20+ minute video about a controller.
Scott is the only person.
Scott is the
20 minute video on a wii controller. Exactly what I wanted for my birthday. Thanks, Scott.
Happy birthday!! 🎉
It's your birthday today, cake and ice cream are on it's way
@@svennevs5740 rats, rats, we are the rats,
Happy birthday SniktMaster • 1h ago ^^
Happy birthday yeeee
The funny thing about Return to Dreamland specifically is that Kirby's Dream Collection, which used the exact same game engine, did allow for classic controller support for the Return to Dreamland challenge stages. That's the really bizarre part...
Then the Switch remake of Return to Dreamland showed how easy it would've been to map shaking the Wii remote to mashing the d pad/analog stick
Star Allies also maps the motion control super inhale to just holding b for an extended period of the time as well (the 3ds games might also do this but im not sure)
@@usermcskull4713 You're right, the 3DS games started the trend of making it activate after holding B for a bit
@@randocommando7945Amazing Mirror on GBA (also squeak squad on ds and maybe nightmare in dreamland on gba iirc) also activated the super inhale by holding B.
Scott is the only guy who can make a 20 minute video about a controller.
Not controllers on general. Just about A controller
And it’s not even the main controller
he did get 23 minutes out of the L button after all
@@cashc4434 Ha! A true legend.
i just found a 20 minute video about a controller from a different guy
Shoutout to Ben 10: Protector of Earth for showing a diagram of the Classic Controller in the instruction manual despite it not being compatible with the game itself!
finally. someone else who knows my pain.
I love the classic controller for the fact that they're compatible with the NES/SNES Classic Edition consoles, and that pressing the home button takes you to the game selection screen without having to get up and reset the console.
I like the vice versa of that, how the NES/SNES Classic Edition controllers are compatible with the Wii Remote, meaning you can also use them on the Wii to play VC games or anything else you can hook up a Wii Remote to (even the Switch with an adapter). I don't have the NES Classic console because it quickly became nearly impossible to get, but I did get the controller for it since they sold those on their own too, and I've used it with my Wii and even Switch quite a bit, it's of course perfect for playing NES Virtual Console games.
Til
Holding down + select on the NES/SNES controllers will also take you to the home menu without needing to reset the console ;)
@@MoldyPond I think this is the case only if you hacked it correct? It doesn't work on stock systems.
@@VenomSnakeMGS Nope no need for hacking, it's even in the digital instruction booklet :)
Notably, the Wii Classic Controller actually shares quite a few components with the GameCube controller- this makes them quite a popular choice to salvage for GameCube parts.
The joysticks don't feel the same though, it's not "ridged for your pleasure" like the Gamecube joystick is.
The Wii classic pro controller is actually quite comfortable and works really well, especially for retro games
Perfect to use for Wii and GameCube games on the Wii U.
Its perfect for the PS1 emulator on my Wii
Agreed 🤝
Mkwii is my favorite game to use it on
@@gigabookingofchads6922 yes I always use it on mkwii
I remember having this accessory. Playing Mario Kart Wii with the Wheel felt kinda clunky for me. The Classic Controller made my experience much better.
Wii wheel was top tier gaming
I just used the Wiimote and Nunchuck
@@ianfinrir8724same
If he can get 20 minutes outta this, he can do 22 on the L button no problem
Sign the petition for him to make a video about the l button
@@ThenamesC we already did and it won
It's not that a video would be hard to make, just talk a bit about different L-buttons and potentially their use in many, many games, you would probably pretty easily pass 22 minutes. It's just the amount of effort you need to put in for this truly captivating topic.
@@Mimi.1001 He can show like 20 different consoles and talk about the shape and feel of the L button. It'll probably be fine.
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Scott slowly turning into Classic Game Room reviews, and I am here for it.
Waiting for the review of Truxton now.
@@SeventhPow3r FROM THE INTERGALACTIC SPACESHIP ON ITS NEVERENDING QUEST TO REVIEW EVERYTHING.
Are ya?
The classic controller pro is easily my favorite controller of all time. It’s so comfortable to use, and I love the gates for angling the sticks, and the noise they make when you rotate them in a circle is amazing.
The analog triggers made Mario sunshine so much better. If they kept the mechanic available, inventive creators would make clever use of them. Bring them back 😢
Ps5 controller evolved this concept with haptic feedback triggers
The Gamecube controller had an analog trigger, but Mario Sunshine didn't really use it. It only detected 2 types of trigger squeeze, either light or heavy.
Every other console has it but not crap ass Nintendo with their underpowered bad-control hardware
Mike crap huh nintendo makes better systems and games period
I think the cord coming out of the bottom on the Classic Controller actually makes sense, as you connect it to a Wii Remote, not the Wii itself. So chances are that the remote is just going to be laying around on your couch or something.
Finally someone actually said it
A time where I can say I own all the Wii Classic Controller Pro Colors and Scott doesn't is a W in my mind.
The analog triggers of the original WIi Classic Controller is useful on the Nintendont homebrew app (that plays GameCube games and supports Wii Classic Controllers). Even though they haven't had any use for mainstream Wii / WiiWare games (or someone can correct me if I'm wrong), it would have been nice for Wii Classic Controllers to have kept the analogs for us Nintendont users.
I remember when I was repairing one of my Wavebird Controllers, and struggling to find anything on my Wii to test to ensure the Analog triggers were still working properly. It was then I realized that my Classic Controller Pro didn’t have the Analog Triggers, yet the OG Classic Controllers did.
Perhaps some random WiiWare game, but I to this day can’t think of a single Wii game that utilized those Analog Triggers.
@@MungkaeX Looking up "Wii classic controller analog games", I found a comment on a GBATemp forum thread that lists some racing Wii games that were compatible with the Wii Classic Controller's Analog Triggers.
Dirt 2
Need for Speed: Undercover
Need for Speed: Nitro
Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
NewoZero
Rotozoa
F1 2009
Along a similar line, the raphnet controller adapters also make use of the analog shoulder buttons (at least in the default "B" mapping), which is very nice
@@ThunderDragonRandy well that explains why I struggled to find one. I’ve only heard of one of those games.🤣
@@MungkaeX There's a Wii homebrew app called Visual Controller Test (or something similar). It can test the inputs on any kind of controller you can hook up to a Wii.
I love the port on the bottom on the Wii Remote. So many possibilities with just one hole!
Too bad one of my wiimotes has a LEGO instuction manual stuck inside it
🤨📸
The Wii remote was Nintendo's second controller to ever be made to have ports on the controller itself. The first was the N64 controller.
I love that some accessories like the dj hero turntable work with it directly without the need for adapters like the PS3 version. I absolutely hate adapters because when buyind second hand people always lose them and make the accessory useless
@@Curlyheart needle nose pliers or tweezers could help with that.
I have such fond memories of the Wii. I can't believe its almost 20 years since it came out, time goes by so fast. It also reminds me of the time my brother adopted a dog. Recently she passed away a year ago. RIP Xena.
Rip xena ❤
May she rest in dog heaven
Guys, I figured out the difference between Scott’s Stash and Scott the Woz…
It’s the lack of the blue border. That’s it. They’re equally charming, well edited, and funny. Maybe less scripted, but Scott flies off the cuff so naturally that I can barely even tell most of the time.
And the carpet
Scott has a super power of finding a way to talk about random video game stuff for 20 plus minutes and make it interesting.
A friend offered me a Wii classic controller while we played Shovel Knight on the Wii U together and I had 0 idea it existed before then, but I ended up loving it and thinking it was perfect for that game.
What is even weirder is that you can mash the d-pad to do everything motion-controlled in Kirby's Return to Dream Land
The Wii Classic Pro Controller is one of the greatest and sh*ttiest controllers I own and I absolutely love it for that
Bruh
The wii classic and wii pro are 2 different controllers. The pro has thighs 🐢
Just know that the controller works great. It will continue to work even when the Wii remote ran out of batteries. As long as you never detach the controller from the Wii remote, that controller will work just like a normal wired controller.
@xg223 aside from the 6 button Genesis controller with 2 shoulder buttons by Retrobit.
@xg223 well that's your opinion. The dpad on the 360 was wet trash but overall S tier controller
8:44 You can use Nintendon't with homebrew to play GameCube games with the classic controller, even the Wiimote. It's as great as it sounds.
Ok
Really love these videos. Feels so good to see stuff I grew up with again. You're awesome Scott
This was my Favorite Wii Controller i used it soo much.
glas to see you cover it. i still have mine from when i used it when i was little
Only Scott could make a 20min video about the Wii classic controller and I love him for it
I’m praying for Scott The Woz channel to return one day!
The wii u video is coming
@@spennywenny I hope so!
I played most of my Wii U games using the Wii Classic Controller. I loved it.
Opening my Wii on Christmas morning with the Classic Controller, browsing the Wii Shop Channel, and playing Super Mario Bros. with my dad is a core memory.
I love the randomness of all these Scott's Stash videos, it makes my day. Only thing is when you wrap around the controller so tightly you damage the cords. Just a heads up. ❤
I love damaging the cords
SNES classic controller plugged into wii remote was how I was able to “properly” play Super Mario All Stars on the Wii.
Man I just love hearing people talk about niche Wii stuff. It had so much half hidden forgotten features and accessories, I used to own a classic controller but forgot about the classic pro.
It was my favorite console (and it still is) and it just brings me joy to hear people talk about it and know some people still have fun with it !
Thanks for the video:)
Love this thing. I had the original white classic controller that I got for virtual console games, and the black classic controller pro that I got bundled with Monster Hunter Tri. While it is a bit light and insubstantial, the fact that kept costs down by leaving most of the electronics to the Wii Remote was a fantastic choice.
Oh man, I loved the stick placement on the Wii U Pro controller! I find I'm much more sensitive to stick placement than I am button placement, so having both sticks in the optimal location was great. I didn't feel like having the buttons lower down impeded me at all.
18:50 there was also something sold at Walmart at one point that was a combination of these two bundles. It was a package a lot like the one on the left, except it also included a Wii Points card. It was also absurdly easy to get the Wii Points card out of the package without even opening it, so many of those bundles had the card stolen.
Love this content man cant get enough of cool video game stuff
I literally just talked about this today as my friend and i played mariokart wii for the first time. Love this lil thing!
I can’t wait for Scott to do the nunchuck episode where he explains that the Wii nunchuck is just a wired n64 joystick
Im so glad scott the woz is finally sober again ❤️
I love this channel so much haha. It’s for all of us that know way too much about these little things
God I love consoles, accessories, and all their quirks and nuances. I live for this content.
The classic wii controller having hexagonal cutouts for the sticks really supports your hypothesis that it might've originally been meant to be used for GC games. Maybe they ran into technical problems getting GC input to work through the wii mote.
As a kid I only had the Wii and I had no idea it could play GameCube games so I always looked at those store shelves are the game Store in my country still having GameCube games looking like "damn, wish I could play those".
Man.
In all fairness not all Wii Consoles could play Gamecube games. The exterior differences of course the Gamecube ports on top of the console, but without looking at that the orientation of the Wii Logo on the front of the console. If the Wii Logo was upright while in Vertical orientation, it was backward compatible. If the Wii Logo was upright in horizontal orientation, it was one of the consoles that had backward compatibility scrapped.
I love that there are now TWO Scott the Woz channels for double the Woz content.
Resident Evil 4 supported the Classic Controller but not the GameCube one, but there was a trick to use it: you plug in your GameCube controller and remove the batteries from the Wii Remote so the GameCube controller is the only thing connected, and ta-da, it works. The prompts shows the Classic Controller buttons tho.
Scott raally got 20 minutes out of a controller, he can get atleast 10 minutes out of the L button
The Classic Controller is pretty much the most versatile Nintendo controller, considering you can use it with most Virtual Console content on Wii and Wii U, most Wii U games, and even the Switch if you have a USB adapter. I also think it works with GameCube games on Nintendont, so I suppose those analog triggers do get some use after all, assuming you're willing to jailbreak the console.
I use it for GC and it is the perfect modern GC controller for 2006 lol
Now I'm wondering if there's an adapter to use a Classic Controller on a GC.
I used to always want the Wii classic controller. It's kinda nostalgic seeing someone showing it off for the first time.
i always feel so special when scott brings out the gold wii classic pro controller because i too have one
the wii classic controller now is older than the snes controller was when the wii classic controller was made
Scott's white Wiimote with a non translucent 'A' button is the most cursed thing I've seen all day
I love that I can watch a 20 minute video about the Wii classic controller
I actually had a classic controller with one of those covers and I actually really preferred it with it. Not because it added extra grip but it was just really soft to the touch and felt nice
Nintendo no longer implements analog triggers into their controllers as a company owns the patent for the technology behind them, Sony and Microsoft pay a fee to include them. They only included them on GameCube controllers still as I guess they think that they have to.
A GameCube controller without analog would feel so weird considering the extremely long travel distance until 100%
I actually used this on my switch for a lot. One of My favorite controllers, it just misses a few needed inputs for modern gaming.
How do you use Wii controllers on a Switch? Never heard of that being possible.
how?
@@philipp_mayr Just searched it. 8-bit Doe makes adapters to let you use Wii classic and Gamecube controllers on Switch. Might get one myself, seems cool.
@@noodleman4555 exactly 👍 I also used that dongle to get my PS4 controller to work on the switch. It worked so perfectly for botw until I discovered bootlegged amiibo NFC tags which needed joycons specifically.
Anyhoozle, the classic controller is great in conjunction with a joycon by your side for the missing buttons. I beat Pikmin 3 with my wife using the classic controller 😎
@@TheScripflipNetwork I got that 8bitdo adapter to use my Wii Remote and accessories on my Switch, but I found out it also works on PC so I also use it to hook up my Wii stuff or even my Switch controllers to my laptop too. You can get a lot of mileage out of just one of those adapters, definitely work it.
The controller with glove was sold at my local Walmart for the same price as the original. I have used the cover to this day and it has really helped keep mine white.
I was so intrigued by that classic controller.
The classic pro might be one of my favorites to this day. I still use it to play games on steam with an adapter.
I have an 8bitdo that feels pretty close to the classic pro controller
i love scott's scripted, lore based videos so much, but i really love the lofi rambling style of videos.
scott's stash and scott' snippets are the new scott the woz
I literally just picked one of these up for mk wii. ( ctgp ) normally id use a gc controller, but its getting hard to find a good one for a reasonable price, so i switched to this. Also, i used to use a pro classic, but i hated the fact i had to use the top shoulder buttons..
Nahyou can still find genuine gamecube controllers for cheap. Just don’t look online
@jspantonio8807 that's the problem. My area has like one game store, and EVERYBODY buys up gamecube controllers. So still the same problem. And of course, they don't have any way to test them until you buy them.
A pretty decent controller I have the pro version
Love the Wii Classic Controller Pro - I use it on PC with an 8BitDo GBros adapter. I agree it's a bit light, so I opened mine up and wedged a stack of washers inside each grip - now it's perfect.
Cool! Do you use it wired or wireless?
My copy of the adapter only works with the batteries, and it eats up them quickly
@@gab_v250 I use it wired, since I'm right in front of my computer anyway. And if you didn't know, that adapter also works with the nunchuck. Mouse + nunchuck is great for FPS games, as long as they don't need too many buttons.
Very informative, appreciate you Scott!
So many UA-camrs are going down this path of using their original channels for hour long videos and their 2nd channel become the main channel.
Love Scott’s stash keep them coming please!!!
I never got a classic controller for my wii back when it was still the console of the generation but I did get the dragon quest wii classic controller a year or two ago which is absolutely amazing in every sense of the word
I feel you can make a full scott the woz episode on this topic, or at most, about classic controllers, just in general, older controllers for newer systems
I didn't think I needed to hear about the random wii control I owned but now I know it inadvertently led to the only switch controller that I like using so I have more respect for my random wii control now
I used to play this NHL game on my wii with the classic controller and for some reason that game played smooth as butter with that original classic controller. I loved that thing
Classic controller pro was one of the most (if not the most) ergonomic feeling controller I've held. Used it for PS1 emulation via a Mayflash adapter all the time 11 years ago.
A shame it lost out on the analogue triggers. And it never got the thumbstick buttons.
8:40 right on the money, when the gigaleak happened one of the documents mentions hardware that would allow emulating the GC controller via bluetooth. It's assumed this hardware didn't make it to the Wii but we know it's possible to do it in software because of homebrew like devolution (and much later nintendont) have support for it.
The best part about kirby's dream collection supporting classic controller is that the challenge stage mode, which basically uses the same exact engine and gameplay as kirby's return to dreamland, supports the classic controller.
6:15 “I’m running out of things to say” still 15 minutes of video left 😆
scott really made a video about talking about the Wii Classic Controller for 20 minutes, but I'm not complaining.
Scott I'm in love with your stash
I prefer this channel over your main one, obscure topics with a more personal feel
my biggest gripe is having to use the d pad to wheelie and trick while playing mkwii on the classic controller
am i using a controller or playing with a bop it?
I literally played every game that supported it and only used it. I couldn’t play smash on another controller if I had tried back then. And I loved it for fire emblem. Will go down in time as my favorite controller
Man, it really is a Wii Classic Controller type of night.
This controller works on the mini consoles they released too. I used mine on the mini snes and the home button works!
Great video ! Cheers from France !
love this thing, personally
The stick layout on the Wii U pro controller feels like another classic case of Nintendo being different for the sake of being different.
thank u for this contribution to the universe. never forget.
I remember getting a gold classic controller pro with golden eye. Good stuff
I used to have a lot of fun playing Conduit 2 online using a classic controller pro.
I really appreciated being able to use the GameCube controller for Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
I loved this thing. very classy
I’ve always loved this controller. It also works on the NES and SNES classic.
I didn’t know I could look at Scott’s hands for so long and be so entertained😍
This controller doesn't get enough love!
Mine finally wore out after almost 15 years of love, I gotta find a new one.
I love the classic controller. It definitely needed to be used more