macOS Big Sur’s Big Secret

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2020
  • The visual changes to macOS Big Sur are actually the small part. Snazzy Labs explains why the Mac will soon gain a touchscreen.
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    Apple announced macOS 11 Big Sur to much surprise this last week at WWDC. Along with the transition to ARM came a bevy of visual changes (we won’t call them upgrades, per se) and the announcement that Apple Silicon Macs would be able to run iOS apps without modification. Not only that, but that Apple would be placing all iPad and iPhone apps available to download in the Apple Silicon Mac App Store by default unless the developer specifically states that they don’t want it listed. A bunch of multi-touch apps and games require touch input, however, and we’re as sure as ever that touchscreen Macs are on the horizon despite Apple’s insistence that they’re not coming soon. We talk about visual indications we’ve found hidden in macOS Big Sur that help argue why macOS Big Sur hidden secrets hint at a touch-capable future. #macOS #BigSur #SnazzyLabs
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  • @franklinjoe52
    @franklinjoe52 3 роки тому +823

    Looks like the new MacBooks will let you use your ARMs. Get it? Anyone?

  • @leogrievous
    @leogrievous 3 роки тому +3486

    You missed an opportunity to title this video "macOS's big surcret"

    • @jaykrishnak3268
      @jaykrishnak3268 3 роки тому +21

      Take my like and have a nice day.

    • @polomrtvola
      @polomrtvola 3 роки тому +11

      竜司 That’s better

    • @JoeyTeckno
      @JoeyTeckno 3 роки тому +12

      @竜司 nailed it! 🤣

    • @andrive
      @andrive 3 роки тому +1

      Oh no

    • @busimo
      @busimo 3 роки тому +2

      He can rename if he wanted to.

  • @Ben.N
    @Ben.N 3 роки тому +193

    This is like running the old iPhone apps on iPad, where they would have to be scaled with that weird 2x button, but worse.

  • @asandax6
    @asandax6 3 роки тому +610

    Are you merging MacOS and IOS
    "NO"
    proceeds to merge MacOS and IOS even switch from intel to ARM

    • @DuaneMoody990
      @DuaneMoody990 3 роки тому +26

      They said that at the last WWDC before iPadOS was announced, so they wouldn't have to answer "Are you merging MacOS and iPadOS?"

    • @kontoname
      @kontoname 3 роки тому +2

      @@DuaneMoody990 I hope you are just so bad at trolling? It's iOS on iPads / iPods as well...

    • @DuaneMoody990
      @DuaneMoody990 3 роки тому +11

      @@kontoname iPadOS is Apple making changes to the implementation of iOS on iPads: a genuine filesystem, support for wireless mice, etc.

    • @susanpratt3290
      @susanpratt3290 3 роки тому

      Then again, things change in two years.

    • @superaviation001
      @superaviation001 3 роки тому

      lol

  • @JoshUnwin
    @JoshUnwin 3 роки тому +517

    “Run all iOS apps directly on macOS, no work required.”
    Meanwhile, Instagram on iPad is just a little phone app within a black void around 70% of the screen.

    • @superNova5837
      @superNova5837 3 роки тому +27

      Oh god that looks so bad thinking about

    • @tij9190
      @tij9190 3 роки тому +19

      Josh Unwin ikr but thats bcuz of Instagram not Apple

    • @JoshUnwin
      @JoshUnwin 3 роки тому +26

      @@tij9190 mostly yeah but Android will automatically scale apps to make use of the screen size even if the dev hasn't optimised it so it is possible for Apple to do better.

    • @tij9190
      @tij9190 3 роки тому +4

      Josh Unwin true

    • @harshitarora693
      @harshitarora693 3 роки тому +5

      @@JoshUnwin android has a huge advantage in such ways but it makes the app buggy at times cause we have to optimise it . Also don't forget whatsapp 🤣🤣.

  • @WesPerry
    @WesPerry 3 роки тому +224

    As soon as I saw that updated UI I said “ohhhh this looks touchable!”

    • @auroraflash
      @auroraflash 3 роки тому

      Fake news.

    • @felixvehent3336
      @felixvehent3336 3 роки тому

      Me too

    • @calebwaddell6948
      @calebwaddell6948 3 роки тому

      It almost made me cringe when I saw people using the cursor in the new Mac OS, and I dont even use a single apple product.

    • @DanC8111_
      @DanC8111_ 3 роки тому

      They might possibly made a touch screen MacBook

  • @StuartLynne
    @StuartLynne 3 роки тому +14

    I discovered this years ago with touch-screen Chromebooks. Sometimes you would use the trackpad (or mouse). Sometimes you would touch the screen. Hands and arms seemed to make the choice without thinking about it. Very enjoyable experience.

  • @camberwellcarrot420
    @camberwellcarrot420 3 роки тому +839

    I thought he was going to say, "We love the Mac, because it's expensive."

    • @prinzvalium242
      @prinzvalium242 3 роки тому +51

      He was going to say that, he stopped himself in time tho

    • @Noodles0upp
      @Noodles0upp 3 роки тому +4

      EXACTLY.

    • @pdfbro5118
      @pdfbro5118 3 роки тому +7

      It is because it is secure and powerful

    • @pdfbro5118
      @pdfbro5118 3 роки тому +2

      Although I use 2 iPads and one Mac for animation

    • @ziited5679
      @ziited5679 3 роки тому +9

      Expens- *ehm* explicit

  • @ramennbowls
    @ramennbowls 3 роки тому +366

    1:25 "We love the mac, because its expen- we love macos"..
    What was that Craig Federighi, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering department?

    • @IndySidhu88
      @IndySidhu88 3 роки тому +27

      explicit replaced expensive lol

    • @tgdxdrakoon7019
      @tgdxdrakoon7019 3 роки тому +28

      hahahhaha he wanted to tell the truth so badly. omg, thanks for sharing!

    • @louiefriesen
      @louiefriesen 3 роки тому +8

      "We love the Mac, because it it expensive, so we get to make a whole whack ton of money!"
      -What Craig was thinking

    • @ars7374
      @ars7374 3 роки тому +2

      Lmao

    • @brunoglopes
      @brunoglopes 3 роки тому +2

      Lmaooo

  • @teepz04
    @teepz04 3 роки тому +275

    Watching this is like watching a homicide detective story
    Edit: Thanks for the heart Quinn

    • @RosenIvanovPetkov
      @RosenIvanovPetkov 3 роки тому +1

      I'd say it's better.

    • @karellen00
      @karellen00 3 роки тому +3

      Let's hope it wasn't mac os who was killed...

    • @EpicBr0
      @EpicBr0 3 роки тому

      I was thinking the same thing🤣

  • @talldarkshark8012
    @talldarkshark8012 3 роки тому +5

    This is one of the few UA-cam videos which has been visually very appealing. The subtle blue background is stunning, your T-shirt conpliments the whole vibe. Awesome work, brother.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  3 роки тому

      Thanks, dude!

  • @MayankBadhan
    @MayankBadhan 3 роки тому +34

    I would laugh if Schiller blocks Quinn after this video 😂

  • @violet-trash
    @violet-trash 3 роки тому +192

    Oh boy, I can't wait for giant browser UIs that take up half the screen so that I can get the _full grandma experience._ 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

    • @MrLeonOfficial
      @MrLeonOfficial 3 роки тому +5

      ゴミクズ人Violet We’ve been getting the full Grandma Experience on mobile for years. :-(

    • @JohnEusebioToronto
      @JohnEusebioToronto 3 роки тому +10

      That does seem annoying. Firefox has an adaptable UI that enlarges elements when in tablet mode. I think Apple should look into that.

    • @shariful3844
      @shariful3844 3 роки тому +3

      Windows is better than mac os and ios is better than android in tablet/pad department and ios and android similar in phone department

    • @hira6481
      @hira6481 3 роки тому +12

      @@shariful3844 that's largely subjective, I was using windows all my life until 2-3 years ago when i got my macbook and i never realised how much i dislike using windows before I got the feel of macos. People like u need to stop trying to find an answer to which os is better cause at the end of the day it comes down to what each of us wants in an os.

    • @bluephreakr
      @bluephreakr 3 роки тому +1

      @@hira6481 Until a few years back I wasn't primarily on an open-source system. Now here I am using Manjaro because I wanted a braindead-simple Arch-based system with my desktop of choice, which through the power of -friendship- community they provide. Tired of Microsoft selling me by the parcel and too poor for Apple, I do the next-best thing and dual-boot an OS of choice alongside Windows when I need it.

  • @mediocreatbest9466
    @mediocreatbest9466 3 роки тому +188

    The second I saw them show the control center I was like “sooooo it’s just a touch control scheme now?”

    • @jaywye
      @jaywye 3 роки тому +9

      And the increased padding between icons and menu items as well. So damn obvious that it's an interface optimized for touch.

    • @SteveBoyer10
      @SteveBoyer10 3 роки тому +2

      Yep immediately thought “ah okay touch screens coming to Mac”

    • @_MintArcade
      @_MintArcade 3 роки тому +1

      Courage, my friend, courage

    • @musicalhistory4392
      @musicalhistory4392 3 роки тому

      Yeah it was obvious, also the fact that everything is shaped like a button now.

    • @mmdday
      @mmdday 3 роки тому

      i had teh same feeling

  • @yt.rogue_one
    @yt.rogue_one 3 роки тому +130

    “Big Sewer”. 😂

    • @thescreemregular5168
      @thescreemregular5168 3 роки тому +1

      𝗂 𝖼𝖺𝗅𝗅 𝗂𝗍 𝖻𝗂𝗀 𝗌𝗅𝗎𝗋

    • @tec738cafdikfac2
      @tec738cafdikfac2 3 роки тому

      You missed an opportunity to title this video "macOS's big surcret"

  • @pranavtumminkatti9373
    @pranavtumminkatti9373 3 роки тому +107

    "like windows 10, but not crap", lol nice one there😂

    • @kindanyume
      @kindanyume 3 роки тому +2

      W10 is trying to be as bad as crapintosh is ie: They fuck over your customers every possible way and remove control from them as much as possible
      Its also funny that this comes along as a new upgrade of Winbloze meanwhile such isn't even an OS.. it's a service and a very very bad one at that.
      Also note crapintosh would be fucked so royally it wouldn't be funny if all of the creators of the underlying *nix code prohibited it from being used by crapintosh (much of that code is in their arm based code as well)
      (Now edited on a real keyboard instead of the nightmare pos wifi mini kbd I was stuck using at the time of the original post. UGH I swear when the replacement arrives that pos is going to the range to make a nice target for some 9mm goodness.)

    • @ahmederadwan
      @ahmederadwan 3 роки тому +2

      I understood that he meant more of (not crap mac iOS), like now the nonsense merging between macOS and iPadOS. A detachable iPad that is not crap. Windows is actually doing fantastic converting between laptop and a tablet ahead of time.

    • @rossgoosen7269
      @rossgoosen7269 3 роки тому +4

      @@kindanyume ...what?

    • @kindanyume
      @kindanyume 3 роки тому

      what didnt u understad? that w10 is trying tp f over the dolts that use it as much if not worse than crapintoshs victims?
      or that if all of the contribs that are used for free in the underlyng structure that osx relies on were revoked then crapintosh would be royally fuked..
      or the part that win10 is NOT an OS it is a service..

    • @kindanyume
      @kindanyume 3 роки тому +1

      you mistake migrating crap from one platform to another as a good thing when in reality the fact remains its still crap regardless

  • @bentonr.olmsted3423
    @bentonr.olmsted3423 3 роки тому +343

    Don’t you just love UA-cam’s auto-generated subtitles?
    “Mac OS Big Sewer”
    😂

    • @gamunu.b
      @gamunu.b 3 роки тому +10

      that's actually correct.

    • @Todrick451
      @Todrick451 3 роки тому +3

      well if he pronounced it normally, "Sir" like "Surf" without the F... maybe UA-cam wouldn't nail the weird pronunciation with it's apparently spot-on auto-generated subtitles.

    • @abdullahvqr
      @abdullahvqr 3 роки тому +1

      Same happened with me

    • @skendel
      @skendel 3 роки тому +7

      He keeps screwing up the pronunciation of Sur. He continuously says "sewer" every time. It's not UA-cam's fault. It's his.

    •  3 роки тому

      “armed Mac users” xd 10:04

  • @WhyJustWhy2000
    @WhyJustWhy2000 3 роки тому +203

    They really need a "I'm not gonna touch it, please just give me some information density back" option.
    I'm so bothered by Apple's incessant push toward less and less information density. It's making smaller devices less useable

    • @hikkamorii
      @hikkamorii 3 роки тому +23

      Honestly, I praised apple for making their interfaces more dense, because when I use a computer with a mouse/touchpad and a keyboard. Big Sur is a fucking joke.

    • @axethepenguin
      @axethepenguin 3 роки тому +6

      @Jade L have you realized it lowers display quality smh

    • @paulkdrozd
      @paulkdrozd 3 роки тому +8

      They just need a touch mode toggle like tablet mode on Windows 10 to solve this

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 3 роки тому +3

      the dumbing down of tech

    • @boredom1000
      @boredom1000 3 роки тому +20

      @Mario Bad UX is scrolling 4x as often to see the same content.

  • @Y-two-K
    @Y-two-K 3 роки тому

    I've seen your videos, but the intro in this one convinced me to finally subscribe.

  • @twistmint1346
    @twistmint1346 3 роки тому

    Enjoyed the commentary. Always good to hear well thought out opinions. Thank you.

  • @VeeAyyDee
    @VeeAyyDee 3 роки тому +291

    “Less than perfect cursor implementation is better than no cursor implementation at all”, where the heck is iPad calculator app???

    • @thatpitter
      @thatpitter 3 роки тому +9

      VeeAyDee Mkbhd has an interview with Craig and he explains that.

    • @DavidParker
      @DavidParker 3 роки тому +19

      Peter Schumacher hahaha yeah it’s such a dumb explanation, I just want one that can be easily accessed from the control panel! I don’t care about Apple making a “great” calculator!

    • @brianchristine9301
      @brianchristine9301 3 роки тому +6

      ...AND the Weather app???

    • @thomasalias8492
      @thomasalias8492 3 роки тому +9

      @@thatpitter He didn't "explain" anything. He came up with an excuse on the spot because the real reason is that there isn't one. They just never got to it because it slipped their mind.

    • @PhilippSeven
      @PhilippSeven 3 роки тому

      @@DavidParker There is a bunch free app in appstore with calculator for widget area.

  • @TheMrSnow1
    @TheMrSnow1 3 роки тому +99

    7:43 Apple breaks his own human interface guidelines with the wifi switch

    • @anthonyhobday
      @anthonyhobday 3 роки тому +2

      Not any more. They've added iOS style switches to the macOS Human Interface Guidelines, under "Buttons"

    • @MarioAtheonio
      @MarioAtheonio 3 роки тому

      Which they've already been breaking with the Night Shift and Do Not Disturb switches in the notifications bar.

    • @Felix-qx5tk
      @Felix-qx5tk 3 роки тому

      @@MarioAtheonio i think they aimed to make Sidecar look better but they really should have made a setting so that the big spacing and big buttons only show up when using sidecar and not all the time on macbooks etc

  • @theos4931
    @theos4931 2 роки тому

    Love the presentation and the overall production. Keep it up man.

  • @langolier9
    @langolier9 3 роки тому

    It took me four minutes to realize that you both know what you’re talking about and quite amusing and how you explain it so ......good job

  • @johnothwolo
    @johnothwolo 3 роки тому +121

    Schiller: "It's common denominator thinking"
    *2 years later...*
    Apple's PR team: yikes

  • @MarsorryIckuatuna
    @MarsorryIckuatuna 3 роки тому +585

    I think he's the only one that pronounces it "Big Sewer" 😅

    • @tqjoriam
      @tqjoriam 3 роки тому +57

      Sur is a Spanish word that means "South". He is pronouncing it like it is pronounced in Spanish. The way you pronounce it sounds like "Sir".

    • @celkat
      @celkat 3 роки тому +16

      @@tqjoriam True - however, the correct (i.e. Californian) pronunciation is "Big Sir"

    • @MarsorryIckuatuna
      @MarsorryIckuatuna 3 роки тому +3

      tqjoriam Cool, learnt something new - I’m from Namibia 🇳🇦, not much Spanish speaking here.

    • @FriedEgg101
      @FriedEgg101 3 роки тому +9

      @@tqjoriam It'a also a French word meaning 'on'. "Sur la table".

    • @MuratDurucu
      @MuratDurucu 3 роки тому +1

      tqjoriam There is a Turkish word for "Sur" as well. It means "huge walls of the castle". 😊

  • @franklinmichael671
    @franklinmichael671 3 роки тому +1

    10:23 you could also use a Magic Trackpad to multitouch and have a cursor like the iPad's which adjusts it's size and shape to fit the buttons it's trying to press.
    Looking forward to touch Macs.

  • @joecool2162
    @joecool2162 3 роки тому

    Great video, one of your best yet. Snazzy!

  • @MiguelLuna1
    @MiguelLuna1 3 роки тому +130

    The UA-cam captions say “macOS Big Sewer”

    • @Todrick451
      @Todrick451 3 роки тому +3

      because thats how he keeps pronouncing it...

    • @captaindeadpool5389
      @captaindeadpool5389 3 роки тому

      I thought thats what it was called.

    • @wolf5115206
      @wolf5115206 3 роки тому

      Well he ain't wrong, partner.

    • @MQXM001
      @MQXM001 3 роки тому

      UA-cam knows the truth

  • @sephthesatanist6558
    @sephthesatanist6558 3 роки тому +130

    1:24 "We love the Mac because it's expen-" You were going to say expensive, weren't you? .-.

  • @Christusolus
    @Christusolus 3 роки тому +58

    "we love the mac because it's expensi..." 1:25 He almost slipped when revealing it was overpriced.

    • @ashazhamzah5886
      @ashazhamzah5886 3 роки тому

      Hahaha yes

    • @UltraAlex2000
      @UltraAlex2000 3 роки тому +3

      in his mind, i think he was going to say 'you love mac because it's expensive', and no one can make me think otherwise.

    • @MaxOakland
      @MaxOakland 3 роки тому +3

      Is it though? The $999 Macbook Air is an amazing value

    • @korbenbutterworth3479
      @korbenbutterworth3479 3 роки тому +2

      @@MaxOakland plus 699 for the Mac mini is fantastic considering how powerful it is with apple silicone

    • @YD_.
      @YD_. 3 роки тому +3

      Although it’s apple, the price for the same specs for other computers definitely make macs seem less pricey in comparison

  • @redman2751
    @redman2751 3 роки тому +6

    I like your idea of a touch screen laptop that can be separated and run as a tablet on its own. In tablet mode it would convert to iPad os and in laptop mode it’d be Big Sur or whatever they call it.

  • @shreyasundarrajan9709
    @shreyasundarrajan9709 3 роки тому +261

    "its not perfect ....... but its better than nothing."
    why isn't that sad🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

    • @GabrieleBonetti
      @GabrieleBonetti 3 роки тому

      ewww

    • @cat-.-
      @cat-.- 3 роки тому +6

      Apple in a sentence

    • @meeblings6
      @meeblings6 3 роки тому +11

      cat -.- there are a lot of tech companies you could say match that statement before apple

    • @noname_atall
      @noname_atall 3 роки тому

      @@cat-.- have my like, if i could give you two, i would.

    • @MadelnMachines
      @MadelnMachines 3 роки тому +2

      That's Apples new marketing slogan

  • @lhenn_
    @lhenn_ 3 роки тому +284

    I don't need a Macbook that I can use with my finger... Macs have one of the greatest trackpad out there on the market... Why should I lift my arm up to tip the screen?! I don't get it...

    • @Macorian
      @Macorian 3 роки тому +25

      Because it will make sense with some apps. Hope you'll get it at some point.

    • @lhenn_
      @lhenn_ 3 роки тому +23

      @@Macorian This is my personal opinion. iPads for finger control, macs for mouse and keyboard...

    • @DISTRICTOVERDOSE
      @DISTRICTOVERDOSE 3 роки тому +1

      cuz im changing positions

    • @flightsimxfsx
      @flightsimxfsx 3 роки тому +19

      Macorian different types of hardware should have apps that are optimised for that hardware. Hope you’ll get it at some point.

    • @Jan-wm8xx
      @Jan-wm8xx 3 роки тому +22

      Agreed, Mac trackpad feels like touch without the fingers on screen.

  • @ruggieru
    @ruggieru 3 роки тому +1

    I like your the way you present the information! Well done Snazzy! *****

  • @peterpayne2219
    @peterpayne2219 3 роки тому

    Always love your coverage!

  • @davidfrischknecht8261
    @davidfrischknecht8261 3 роки тому +71

    Even when I've had a touchscreen laptop, I've never used the touchscreen functionality. To me, touch functionality should be left for devices that are held in the hand like tablets and phones.

    • @alhdgysz
      @alhdgysz 3 роки тому +1

      It is a comfort feature.

    • @geos1215
      @geos1215 3 роки тому +2

      Err.. or for screens that can go (almost) horizontal. :)
      As he said in the video, to have touch as the *only* input - yes, bad. But to just have it there as "option" - there are times when a scroll, a swipe is much easier than using the mouse.

    • @briant.
      @briant. 3 роки тому

      I have a laptop with touch screen and I use it all the time

  • @buccob
    @buccob 3 роки тому +9

    I've been enjoying productivity and making content with Surfaces since 2015 (Pro 3 and Book). You really hit the nail when you said that having the OPTION to use the touchscreen is the way to go... even my wife with her Surface Laptop 2 uses the touchscreen from time to time, for quick brush edits in images, or selecting options while lying in bed. It is not ergonomic from desktop postures, but it is MORE ergonomic in certain situations.
    So yeah what you describe is evidence that they are planning to release a touchscreen Mac.

  • @johnsavard7583
    @johnsavard7583 3 роки тому +3

    Great detective work. And indeed, since all iPad applications will be available by default, and a lot of them need multitouch, that indeed is the deciding factor for a company that insists on quality in its products! I think you've nailed it.

  • @JujuLand0
    @JujuLand0 3 роки тому

    Currently, if you are not on a late enough version of MacOS, some web applications will not install or run. What if we want to avoid Big Sur, would we be eventually still have to to remain useable? Would certain mac applications downloaded from the web not be able to run at all, or have to redesign? How would this affect the mac pro?

  • @AuthenTech
    @AuthenTech 3 роки тому +265

    Yuck... that spacing is horrendous. I really hope they offer us a Compact Density setting...

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 3 роки тому +3

      I'm sure there will be 3rd party tools if Apple doesn't that make the spacing more compact. I don't know if it's because MacOS is just really easy for developers to make customizations like that or because the MacOS market that is willing to spend money on apps is so large that developers find a way to do the impossible so often anyway.

    • @sandi260
      @sandi260 3 роки тому +1

      your face

    • @NicheAsQuiche
      @NicheAsQuiche 3 роки тому +3

      settings? on an apple product?

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 3 роки тому +6

      @@NicheAsQuiche Of course MacOS has lots of settings. It even lets you swap modifier keys and swap caps lock with the esc key. You'd need 3rd party software to do that on Windows (or at least without having to use PowerShell commands)

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 3 роки тому

      @@NicheAsQuiche Settings on iOS, lol in your dreams.

  • @victormejia2983
    @victormejia2983 3 роки тому +80

    What Steve said is always misrepresented. He was talking about having a touch screen that needed a stylus to work. That’s what he was against.

    • @egyptik
      @egyptik 3 роки тому +13

      No, he actually said both. The stylus comment was during the launch op the first iPhone (2007). The comment regarding touch screen on desktops, as shown in this video, was much later in 2010/2011

    • @MisterRandom101
      @MisterRandom101 3 роки тому +9

      @@egyptik The world has changed so much since 2011. I bet if he were alive today he would actively support the Apple pencil.

    • @rishabhbaidya9494
      @rishabhbaidya9494 3 роки тому +1

      @@MisterRandom101 So, in essence, a hypocrite?

    • @jonahhammond1360
      @jonahhammond1360 2 роки тому

      @@rishabhbaidya9494 no…? What Steve said was relevant to the times. He said he didn’t
      Ike music streaming but back then music streaming was slow, expensive, and had poor quality. Now it’s much faster, cheaper, and that allows people to have more permanent music library. He was against a stylus in iPad because back then a pencil could only do as much as a finger could do, but now the Apple Pencil allows for sensitivity, and many more options. He was against a touchscreen on laptops because back then you would have to reach up to the screen to use it, but now laptops can fold in multiple directions. Times change, obviously Steve would approve if he was around to see it.

  • @cfmvalizan7585
    @cfmvalizan7585 3 роки тому

    I have an iPad pro 2015 and have had a pencil & keyboard since launch - i’m typing from it now, actually. I got a mouse a few years later once one was offered for use in remote desktop sessions. I love my MacBook Pro, it replaced my iPad as a primary remote work device in late 2017; but one thing I constantly try and do while using it is touch a line to start typing on, “click” something, or when I want to address a typo. It’s very difficult with how often I switch back and forth to not look for a trackpad on my iPad and want to touch my MacBook screen.

  • @scottkb2000
    @scottkb2000 3 роки тому

    Question: how do you delete a file or all backup versions of that file in time machine running Big Sur? No one seems to know that once you enter time machine, the delete function is no longer available...

  • @akirareiko
    @akirareiko 3 роки тому +13

    You made me smile after you started playing the keynote with Craig and kept going haha massive like!

  • @joefilter2923
    @joefilter2923 3 роки тому +85

    When I was using a touch screen on windows and an iPhone, I found a started touching the screen automatically when using a MacBook.

    • @Devo_gx
      @Devo_gx 3 роки тому +2

      It was like trying to “click” the trackpad on a Windows machine after using a Mac several years ago (when Windows machines always had buttons below the trackpad for left/right click)

    • @tedubadu2536
      @tedubadu2536 3 роки тому +6

      I'm the other way. Fingerprints are my worst nightmare on my laptop screen

    • @HAWXLEADER
      @HAWXLEADER 3 роки тому +2

      They have a damn flush glass screen that screams I'm a touch screen!

    • @BBSHOCKZ
      @BBSHOCKZ 3 роки тому

      @@HAWXLEADER right!

    • @JimiJamma
      @JimiJamma 3 роки тому +2

      Just having an iPad, I’ve found myself at work wondering why the monitor wasn’t responding to my touch as well on my MacBook at home, now and then!

  • @aric85
    @aric85 3 роки тому +20

    Okay you actually convinced me. Here's my new theory - The new iMac will be running Apple silicon and have an adjustbale angle like the Microsoft surface. And Apple Pencil support.

  • @ex0stasis72
    @ex0stasis72 3 роки тому

    I'm super excited now! I had switched from MacOS to Windows about 2 years ago because I wanted a touchscreen laptop, but now, it appears that they are planning on making a touch screen MacBook soon.

  • @dominicskywalker
    @dominicskywalker 3 роки тому +43

    When you’re using a touchscreen on a laptop don’t people put their elbow on a desk like a pivot when using it? Instead of having your whole arm in the air?

    • @sensiblewheels
      @sensiblewheels 3 роки тому

      Haha. Yes.

    • @jasonlast7091
      @jasonlast7091 3 роки тому

      I generally sit my laptop on my lap.

    • @nothumanlol
      @nothumanlol 3 роки тому +1

      still tiring

    • @DaniBarca
      @DaniBarca 3 роки тому +2

      Still not ideal. That's why I did not like iPad for working. Now that they allow mouse input the experience is much better.

  • @jplisboa
    @jplisboa 3 роки тому +153

    There’s also the third option: macOS on iPad Pros.

    • @someoneelse354
      @someoneelse354 3 роки тому +3

      Very likely to me

    • @iliyangeo
      @iliyangeo 3 роки тому +11

      I've had no interest in iPad Pro yet, but if this happens, I'll be among the first on the queue.

    • @nc9604
      @nc9604 3 роки тому

      Espen Fredrick or make ipad os a half and half of macos and ios

    • @subjord
      @subjord 3 роки тому +5

      No need to completely let them converge. Just allow all Mac Apps (including Terminal) to run on iPadOS.

    • @gabriellundmark
      @gabriellundmark 3 роки тому

      Never gonna happen

  • @cmj1993
    @cmj1993 3 роки тому

    Hi Quinn! Quick question if you see this. In macOS 11, when you right click on the new app drawer folder that replaced launchpad, does it still give you list view of all apps ? Thanks

  • @PaperBenni
    @PaperBenni 3 роки тому +7

    1:14 "We love the mac because it's expensive"
    Lol, they sure do xD

  • @ACallander22
    @ACallander22 3 роки тому +32

    Closed Caption On: "then we've got big sewer" 🤣

    • @bluephreakr
      @bluephreakr 3 роки тому +3

      Drain the swamp! Make computing great again!

  • @august1871
    @august1871 3 роки тому +3

    Saving this for when the touch Mac comes out. I think you've nailed it here, Nostradamus.
    Sub earned!

  • @michaelposthumus
    @michaelposthumus 3 роки тому

    I’m not very tech literate and was wondering if the iOS and iPad apps will be available for download on the MacBook Air 2020?

  • @CraftCastUK
    @CraftCastUK 3 роки тому +1

    Quinn what is that awesome screensaver you got going on in the background with the skyscrapers?

  • @ItsAkile
    @ItsAkile 3 роки тому +19

    Touch on desktop is also dumb to me when I can just use the mouse, there is however a few of use cases including drawing/ios apps. long time ipad user as well and I really believe in dedicated hardware

    • @GregConquest
      @GregConquest 3 роки тому +1

      Occasional gestures on the screen could be very useful. Think about zooming in and out on maps (or 3D/virtual models). Sometimes just a few multi-touches on the screen gives a lot more control. ... But as soon as Macs get touch, you know users will ask for a 360-hinge -- or a detachable henge. I could see this evolution getting to a 360 degree hinge, but it just seems absurd to have both Mac and iPadOS tablets. ......... Could there eventually be a unified AppleOS -- one that customized its interface to the device it was running on?

  • @Crux161
    @Crux161 3 роки тому +9

    Everyone around the _actual_ Big Sur says the last bit more like the English “Sir” - it’s such a beautiful place, you can drive a road above the clouds and see them stretch on forever 😍

  • @jroar123
    @jroar123 3 роки тому

    I have a Mac Pro with a fast graphics card, dual 3.33 cpus, 48 gig ram, and tons of storage along with usb-c connections. Will this new so work on my system?

  • @Isaac2001Ike
    @Isaac2001Ike 3 роки тому

    I thought the exact same thing when I opened up the control panel! They’re preparing for a transition.

  • @ZhengZL69
    @ZhengZL69 3 роки тому +134

    "It's not perfect, but is better than nothing"
    Laughs in iPhone 12 not coming with a charger

    • @nazimali7942
      @nazimali7942 3 роки тому +4

      Better than nothing in a box.

    • @1oVVa
      @1oVVa 3 роки тому +2

      @@nazimali7942 that's for iPhone 13

    • @ghejnuni
      @ghejnuni 3 роки тому +2

      What about iphone 14 you may ask? The box starts at $100, the phone starts at $2000 and the charger start at $300

    • @guspaz
      @guspaz 3 роки тому +1

      I already have a drawer full of iPhone and USB chargers, what do I need another one for?

    • @nomanCyclewala
      @nomanCyclewala 3 роки тому

      @@guspaz you might already have a drawer full of iphones too. why would you want another one 😂

  • @i_maq
    @i_maq 3 роки тому +13

    Well you've convinced me, Mac Pro Touch incoming! Direct competitor to the Surface Studio, Macbook Touch and Macbook Pro Touch - detachable, Surface Book styles!

  • @snowzZzZz
    @snowzZzZz 3 роки тому +1

    That is actually the reason why I've never owned a touchscreen laptop aside from the fact that a bug lands on it and it's receiving false inputs, my wrist/arm hurts in a short span of time and it usually isn't the best means of input. It can be nice to have though, I mainly like the added build quality and screen clarity, though it's one more thing to crack and it adds extra weight.

  • @YTBKd
    @YTBKd 3 роки тому

    I was about 70% sure that this would be a clickbait video. Still opened it and was amazed with detailed explanation. Very good content. Subbing. Keep up the good work!

  • @NoGames749
    @NoGames749 3 роки тому +28

    USB C port destruction at 1:53 :D

  • @JP-sw5ho
    @JP-sw5ho 3 роки тому +18

    I actually find the menu items frustratingly small on a 4K iMac, especially with the trackpad. Also can’t the Magic Trackpad do the multitouch thing for iOS apps?
    That said you’ve convinced me

    • @loveiphones4550
      @loveiphones4550 3 роки тому +1

      Just because it has iOS apps doesn't mean it will have a touch screen. Just look at chromeboks 😂😂

  • @CesarTreetops
    @CesarTreetops 10 місяців тому +3

    Now it seems these UI changes were in preparation for the new "spacial computing" in the VisionOS and such

  • @neiljamessloan
    @neiljamessloan 3 роки тому

    Another impressive presentation and intel (no pun suggested) video. Onya Snazzy. Keep up the work to help the marketplace be informed.

  • @miharimamyrajaonison1261
    @miharimamyrajaonison1261 3 роки тому +33

    I love the contents your produce ! So insightful ! As far as I'm concerned, I don't like touch input for desktop or laptop computing. I am convinced it slows down the process and I never liked machine with touchscreen (battery life issues, miss clicks and so on). I prefer Windows approach of the touchscreen, desktop computing requires mouse input so they keep the ergonomics for the mouse. With Big Sur, Apple is shifting away from the mouse and as a result, shifting away from desktop users. Anyhow, you're doing an amazing work !

  • @ThisIsTechToday
    @ThisIsTechToday 3 роки тому +124

    So good. Spot on 👏

  • @vaibhavrbs
    @vaibhavrbs 3 роки тому

    Nice to see freenas ui used in at 3:52.
    I along with few other enjoyed developing it at ixsystems.

  • @citizinse
    @citizinse 3 роки тому

    Does Sidecar in Big Sur use the touchscreen as an input method yet? Without the apple pencil.

  • @mattwinward3168
    @mattwinward3168 3 роки тому +32

    8:15 the WiFi switch button breaks apples catalyst guidelines as well.
    Edit: I don’t think Apple is preparing for touchscreen macs, I think they’re preparing for touch-space Apple Glasses.

    • @vasasv6848
      @vasasv6848 3 роки тому +4

      matt winward - yes, like the different icons (including battery one). They are testing and adjusting AR glasses recognition for icons and interface 😎

    • @justplainlawr
      @justplainlawr 3 роки тому +2

      you made it that far into the video?

    • @misterfung
      @misterfung 3 роки тому

      Yeah.

    • @peterwindle4453
      @peterwindle4453 3 роки тому

      as well as gesture controls... they are very much in support of accessibility on Mac. Formatting the Mac OS layout more like iOS makes this easier for a lot of people to navigate.

  • @roopey
    @roopey 3 роки тому +32

    They should really think about their target groups... Both PC and Mac are meant for professionals / power users. Keep the slow and often less effective touchscreen for the normal user. You need to write fast / a lot? Use a Keyboard. Mouses are also superior on large screen with lots of content. Touch makes no sense on a PC / Mac.
    I almost never use the touchscreen on my laptop. I wish I could have bought it without a touchscreen.

    • @XanarchistBlogspot
      @XanarchistBlogspot 3 роки тому +2

      For coding and writing that is certainly true. It can be useful for audio engineering if you have a lot of sliders IF the sliders are designed well. That being said I don't use the touchscreen much on my Dell Precision laptop and do use it on iPad Pro, shrug.

    • @teroojala5436
      @teroojala5436 3 роки тому

      Touchscreen is nice to have, but not necessary. I use it for scrolling and some apps like Netflix. It is faster and easier than trackpad. However, i will not buy apple product until they improve multitasking and window management. Like cmd tab should show all browser windows with preview, like Windows and window snapping is a must have.

  •  3 роки тому

    man good video and good thinking! congrats

  • @JohnGaltAustria
    @JohnGaltAustria 3 роки тому

    Dear Snazzy, what monitor stand are you using in that video?

  • @_Drav
    @_Drav 3 роки тому +5

    Touch Macs? Oh boy, I'll pass!
    I retired my 2014 15" MacBook Pro when the iPad Pro 11" first came out, and just recently bought a budget Ryzen Lenovo 2-in-1 and I love both devices and use them frequently.
    That being said, I never wanted or use the pen and touch features on my Lenovo, or use my iPad with a stand/keyboard. A touch-enabled Mac sounds like a thing I am absolutely not interested in.

  • @deathsyth8888
    @deathsyth8888 3 роки тому +141

    "Jobs was wrong."
    - Snazzy Labs

    • @Silver_x86
      @Silver_x86 3 роки тому +13

      He's been wrong dozens of times, if anyone ever did a little research, that is.

    • @psyberpirate
      @psyberpirate 3 роки тому +11

      "Einstein was wrong."
      - Sam Witwicky

    • @PanKosiu
      @PanKosiu 3 роки тому +2

      Famous Last Words.

    • @deathsyth8888
      @deathsyth8888 3 роки тому

      @@Silver_x86 I was highlighting the "infallibility" of Steve Jobs by some of the Apple faithful by taking the quote out of context and making a joke along the way. Sorry if it came off as misinformed.

    • @borgranta61103
      @borgranta61103 3 роки тому

      The video appears to me to admit Jobs was right in not allowing a touch screen to become the primary interface and yet was wrong by not allowing a touch screen to become a supplemental interface. In other words Jobs was both 100% right and 100% wrong.

  • @MrUkielover
    @MrUkielover 3 роки тому +40

    "Lifting my arm up & down is ergonomically terrible"
    ...every wife after the 1st year of marriage

    • @tuhinmia1967
      @tuhinmia1967 3 роки тому +1

      I don't need a Macbook that I can use with my finger... Macs have one of the greatest trackpad out there on the market... Why should I lift my arm up to tip the screen?! I don't get it...

    • @camberwellcarrot420
      @camberwellcarrot420 3 роки тому

      Even on your birthday?

    • @likearollingstone007
      @likearollingstone007 2 роки тому

      Underrated

  • @_j22t_
    @_j22t_ 3 роки тому

    Subbed! Your sense of humor ✔️
    Knowledge ✔️
    I agree with you ✔️

  • @LordTechPro
    @LordTechPro 3 роки тому +89

    Snazzy Labs: "macOS Big Sur"
    UA-cam captions: "Big Sewer" got it

    • @Todrick451
      @Todrick451 3 роки тому +3

      he keeps saying "sewer"... it's one syllable, "Sir" like "Surf" with no F

    • @impendio
      @impendio 3 роки тому +1

      He is pronouncing Sur right if you consider it is a spanish word, it’s closer in sound to Soup than it is to Surf, it’s actually just like soup but with an R at the end.

    • @AlejandroS-mh5gm
      @AlejandroS-mh5gm 3 роки тому +1

      impendio no you don’t say sour in Spanish

    • @LordTechPro
      @LordTechPro 3 роки тому +1

      @@Todrick451 Exactly

    • @LordTechPro
      @LordTechPro 3 роки тому +1

      @@drewthor That might be the reason, but he should pronounce it the way Craig Federighi does as "Big Sur"

  • @YashMultani17singh
    @YashMultani17singh 3 роки тому +5

    Maybe somethings cooking up for the TRACKPADS, like new touch screen or gestures enabled trackpad, or say trackpad using apple pencil(tim talked about this)

  • @ynot22tony
    @ynot22tony 3 роки тому

    Finally original thoughtful content which is not just a regurgitation of all reviews which all suck.

  • @shivenpatel4039
    @shivenpatel4039 3 роки тому +4

    Him: touchscreen Mac are coming
    Me: looks at my XP’s 13 hackintosh with airbar

  • @migvelv
    @migvelv 3 роки тому +24

    Apple 1990s: “Think Different”
    Apple 2020: “Not Perfect, But Better Than Nothing”

    • @TheKimNeeper
      @TheKimNeeper 3 роки тому +1

      Apple's Think Different advertising slogan launched in 1997

    • @migvelv
      @migvelv 3 роки тому

      Kim Neeper Rasmussen ok changed it

    • @abubakrakram6208
      @abubakrakram6208 3 роки тому +1

      Honestly, it's this image that keeps Apple from adding touchscreens on Macs and for a long time kept them from adding cursor support to the iPad. They don't want to make it a "meh" experience, and for all the reasons Quinn outlined here, they may not be able to get it perfect. I think it'd still be pretty excellent though.

  • @quill3554
    @quill3554 3 роки тому +60

    Really interesting. I've been doubting if I should move to Apple's ecosystem, and this definitely helps.

    • @Casskario
      @Casskario 3 роки тому +6

      Does it make you go to apple or the other way around ?

    • @joshuaroney
      @joshuaroney 3 роки тому +10

      I would wait till september before making a decision (personally)

    • @ahmadalsadi1786
      @ahmadalsadi1786 3 роки тому

      Me too after macos big sur i want to change from windows to mac since i have ipad pro and iphone

    • @NeedlessEscape
      @NeedlessEscape 3 роки тому +3

      I wouldnt bother. Iphones are pretty trash. Ipad pro isnt tho

    • @2by3
      @2by3 3 роки тому +1

      Surface Book owner here thinking the same, a switch would be possible if Apple makes a similar hw device. Still looking forward to see what MS is cooking with Windows 10X.

  • @bxbank
    @bxbank 2 роки тому +1

    You are right. Touchscreens are coming. The system incription is a sign that iOS and macOS are integrating. But Big Sur is hardly polished. Why folders and System Preferences icons aren't iPhone looking is terrible.
    Can I get rid of the screen sharing option in control panel?
    Do you know how to change permissions in Big Sur so I can change the icons?

  • @rickmosher5862
    @rickmosher5862 3 роки тому

    Since upgrading to Big Sur, my mouse has been weirdly.... randomly... offsetting itself. Like... the cursor is an inch or two from where the mouse is actually pointing. I have to move the cursor to the top left of the screen to "force" it to reset and then it will be fine, until the next time it happens... which could be a minute later or an hour later. Been working with Apple Support for more than a week, sending log files and such, but no solution yet. Has me wondering... could coming touch screen functionality buried in the code somewhere be interfering... ?? (rhetorical question)

  • @W--ko9ms
    @W--ko9ms 3 роки тому +13

    1:25 "we love the mac cause its expe...... " good one.

  • @lennartwars
    @lennartwars 3 роки тому +38

    11:37 that's a Surface Book tho 🤓

    • @AndiKola
      @AndiKola 3 роки тому +3

      He uses mostly Apple devices. Can't really distinguish the two. lol

    • @Abisanth11
      @Abisanth11 3 роки тому +5

      I was looking for this comment 😂

  • @gnarfgnarf4004
    @gnarfgnarf4004 3 роки тому

    Hewlett Packard discovered this problem in the 80's. The HP 150 micro had a touch screen. Users developed "Gorilla arm" from extended poking at the vertical screen.

  • @sushantmittal979
    @sushantmittal979 3 роки тому

    0:31 i agree i moved from catalina to bigsur beta and my trackpad felt different almost to the point I was going to change the sensitivity

  • @typingcat
    @typingcat 3 роки тому +57

    "Mouse can't replicate multi-touch"
    Well, use two mice.

    • @LEDmatrix
      @LEDmatrix 3 роки тому +2

      there also is, you know, the trackpad...

    • @user-cw3yj8jv1s
      @user-cw3yj8jv1s 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, great idea! I'll just use that third hand I keep in my pocket for scenarios like this. Now I finally get to use that arm for my second mouse! Yay!

    • @KhairyAbdElZaher
      @KhairyAbdElZaher 3 роки тому +1

      use 10

    • @pom4408
      @pom4408 3 роки тому

      @@LEDmatrix or five mini-mouse at the tip of each fingers...

    • @slipoch6635
      @slipoch6635 3 роки тому

      I have a friend who can use a mouse in one hand and a graphics tablet in the other at the same time, we always joked we should get him a trackball he could use with his feet (he can draw with his feet.)

  • @aortizc82
    @aortizc82 3 роки тому +83

    Me after watching a few seconds: no, I don't think so.
    Me after watching the whole video: damn, they really are doing it!

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  3 роки тому +11

      Haha cheers! Thanks for watching.

    • @BouncingZeus
      @BouncingZeus 3 роки тому +2

      I saw this coming with the apple chips annouchment. Apple has been planning this for a while now.

    • @zorgius
      @zorgius 3 роки тому +1

      No, they aren't.

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 3 роки тому

      This comment is meme-worthy.

    • @johng9562
      @johng9562 3 роки тому +1

      Words are EXPENSIVE ~ each one spends the hearers attention until they are no longer listening. This is why less has always been more in the ART of communication.

  • @bitrot42
    @bitrot42 3 роки тому +9

    It’s gonna be the biggest thing since Windows 8!
    Macs have the best trackpads in the universe. It’s a shame we won’t have precise stuff to precisely click on anymore...

  • @mygeekdom4414
    @mygeekdom4414 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve got a few thoughts. One thing (possibly two) I thought App would come out with are a slider to user define how far apart the menu items are spaced.
    Another thing is I’ve wondered if Apple would ever come out with menu bars which are 100% end user mappable.

  • @T-WaL
    @T-WaL 3 роки тому +45

    When Steve Jobs announced the iPhone he said it runs OS X. This is old news!

    • @noneofyourbuisness7
      @noneofyourbuisness7 3 роки тому +2

      Yes and no. Some of the background definitely made it over. But given the X86 nature of OSX (until Apple puts their own silicon in Macs soon) there’s still major differences. It’s not that simple

    • @MrTofu1ukr
      @MrTofu1ukr 3 роки тому +8

      @@noneofyourbuisness7 bro, you totally ruined a joke

    • @nqh4393
      @nqh4393 3 роки тому +2

      @@noneofyourbuisness7 r/woosh

    • @papa-pete
      @papa-pete 3 роки тому

      if there was a joke it wasn't funny

  • @tipoomaster
    @tipoomaster 3 роки тому +40

    Imagine if they allowed you to switch to a macOS environment on the iPad Pro, suddenly it goes from the most expensive iPad to the cheapest portable mac. That would be interesting, though 4-6GB limiting under a full windowed OS perhaps.

    • @rohansampat1995
      @rohansampat1995 3 роки тому +2

      This is a terrible idea.

    • @Josiassv
      @Josiassv 3 роки тому +12

      @@rohansampat1995 yet most people would want the option. Don't be an asshole

    • @johnmacaulay9132
      @johnmacaulay9132 3 роки тому

      @@Josiassv go try running a VM on a PC with 4 GB of ram and see how amazing the user experience is.
      Plus mouse and keyboard optimised apps would be basically unusable with touch only.

    • @tipoomaster
      @tipoomaster 3 роки тому +2

      @@johnmacaulay9132 Not a VM any more than Crouton is a VM, since they share much of the same codebase it's more like a different shell. And while I wouldn't do dev work on 4-6GB of RAM, it's still usable for casual use, and would make for the cheapest new portable mac.
      "Plus mouse and keyboard optimised apps would be basically unusable with touch only." Which would be why this is mostly for the bevy of keyboards and trackpads out there you can now use with the iPad.

    • @willclaxton7074
      @willclaxton7074 3 роки тому

      That was what I was expecting... When you get an iPad Pro and add the Magic Keyboard to it then it turns out to be as expensive as a laptop. Given the UX changes and the power within the “pro” it would seem like a natural step. I don’t know why Apple didn’t make the Pro an optional development environment rather than having only the Mac Mini. I get that the Mini is cheaper to make and for some dev shops that price point is important but there are a lot of iPad Pros out there that could have done the job.

  • @robertminnicks1136
    @robertminnicks1136 3 роки тому

    What I want to know is where is my air play from Mac to ATV 4 k ! Call support they were clueless about it . The control center does not work well for mirroring my iMac to ATV4k . Hard to connect and disconnect when done mirroring to ATV .

  • @androneana952
    @androneana952 3 роки тому

    I like this video mainly for your humour! Great job sir