Man he can’t do them high notes anymore:( age catches up to everyone eventually. But still killer. In person I’d be singing every word! Thank you for being awesome and recording this so the world can enjoy it!
I think it is because he suffered from food poisoning and the doctor told him to rest, but he was on a show singing with dream theater, then it HEAVILY affected his vocal range.
yea, I mean, he's doing great considering that the vocal cords cant be replaced like guitar strings or drum heads. If I was singing for dream theater I would have been mute by the second song
Man, that intro is so killer. John's guitar tone is so on point. I would have loved to hear that song live in person. I wish they would rerecord this song. Dream Theater's production has come such a long way.
?? The current studio version is perfect as it is. Derek's keys are amazing, and those 90s albums have an atmosphere that the new albums just don't have. Plus, that was prime LaBrie. A modern rerecording could not compare.
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I had front row aisle in the right section- right in front of JP. The reason the audio is so good on these videos is I had the speaker right in front of me, and it wasn't at a horrible loud volume- came out perfect.
My favorite DT song. They did a great job when I just saw them live. James sounded good that night, too in spite of their sound issues. He sounded better than this, don't know what the problem is here...
Yeah I thought LaBrie sounded good when I saw them but it's different when you're there. Unfortunately, all these UA-cam videos show what he really sounds like, and this isn't even that bad. I've seen much worse.
Tours, they ruin the singer's voice. Those first shows will have his voice absolutely on point, but through the tour his voice won't hold that great... I see this easily on Axl Rose too, his voice on the first shows is great too
15:20 IIIIII'M sick of all you hypocrites Holding me at ba-ay And I don't need your simpath'eh To get me through the dææææh Se-sons change, wan so can aaaah, Hold on boy, no taaahm to cry Antah tha stangs, AAAAAAHM clamban daaah Ah wahn latha pash mah awaa-a-ææh
15:15 - He literally suffers as he sings that. I have no Idea why DT still play those songs and do not pitch them down. And please don't tell me about -1 transposition, it clearly was not enough. It should've been -5 or -7. James recently released an album called 'A beautiful shade of Gray', it has showed CLEARLY what songs James feels comfortable singing. Playing songs in original tuning is a torture for both James and the audience.
When they did images and words in Eb it just didn’t sound right, but this works much better. Must be bc much of the song is in a pretty low register as it is.
I think it's because this song is way more 'metal' than anything from images and words, and metal sounds heavier in a lower tunings (to an extent obviously, lower doesnt always mean heavier, but with DT it seems to. Train of Thought, the metal album, has no songs in E Standard whatsoever)
One things different between MP & MM MP : he played more improvement MM : he played more elegant You know what I'm saying. They're both equally good. But in a different character playing drums.
with the setup he has . i don't think he can do it comfortably . i frankly dont understand MM hihat playing at all . yes you are a technical monster but that openhihat playing or even hihat finesse is not there since you joined DT . one thing that is consistent with portnoy across all his career is his spectacular use of hihat . there is no DT track that has great Hihat moment seems very robotic . i like MM but not in dream theater
Uh, this didn't aged well, Manginni played it really good, James tried his best, I know what it feels to not be able to do what you love the best you can, he was a beast back in the day. Hate to see him struggle and damaging himself like that, but love he does not give up never
I said this in another comment, but he is really sounding like live Vince Neil here, which isn’t a good thing, granted, this is probably as good as Vince would get live.
Totally agree. The power of A change of Seasons is in Portnoy touch. And also I am big fan of rudess but he changed a lot of the keyboard parts. Something is missing in this version
@@spudfella4937 another yawn... terrible? dont listen, you know that he is their SINGER.. bitching wont change anything.. either STFU or listen something else. easy right?
I usually try to avoid bad comments because if i have nothing good to say well... you know, but for me this is the worst version i've heard of A change of seasons. Of course for me it's a million times better with Portnoy. And as for your comment i guess internal politics.
@xsiete25x I prefer Mangini's crisp, and tight drumming. He so much more nuanced and detailed. Way more exciting. Mangini responds to the music more. Portnoy is great, but Mangini just has more "octane". An evolution and progression of the art.
yep, definitely a different tone that suits the somng better along the mark 2c, but for a live setting and for the newer records his JP2C + Music man tone is absolutely awesome, though im not a fan of the chorus sometimes
Feeding the trolls just this once: You know, 10 years on and there are still people whining about MP? Seriously? Jeez...let it go. These are the kinds of obsessive fans that no band wants. The same ones that would whine just as loudly should MP ever (God forbid) return to DT because MP wasn't playing MM's parts right or something...or worse, they would complain that MP wasn't playing MP's parts the way MP should play MP's parts. At least MM is more consistent with playing parts, MP used to improvise and change stuff all the time...because he was bored and it got stale...did you Stans ever whine then? If DT pisses you off that bad and you can't help yourself but to be negative and whine about it not being the way YOU want it to be, then go start your own band or go listen to something else. I mean, why bother if it aggravates you that much? Doesn't make sense and is annoying.
You seem to be seriously butthurt. Jeez... let it go, mate. Writing a damn essay about what others think... I wonder what makes your opinion more valid than opinions of others. Fucking snowflake offended by someone else's shoe size. Get a life
Read my comment. This is not about MP. The drumming here is basic (at best) and it's not what you expect of this band. Coupled with a dead singer who won't be professional and adapt his lines... Let's say I admire your capacity to focus on the other instruments.
Suggestions anyone? Ray Alder? Michael Kiske (which would never happen, but the dude still has it, could handle the back catalog and it would certainly be interesting)?
![Dream Theater - A change Of Seasons (Live 2000) [HQ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7QlWpv958Uk/mqdefault.jpg)
![Dream Theater - A change Of Seasons (Live 2000) [HQ]](/img/tr.png)
What a legend, holds his camera very good for 23 minutes.
It was not a hand, was the mental powers of Petrucci's beard.
Im more impressed by the audio quality.
James is trying his best for this song, obviously. 😎
He recorded all those high pitch notes back then 20 years ago lmao he lost range though
yeah - that's pretty rough. I'm not a fan of him as a vocalist to begin with, but wow....
They should have done a medley, cutting out some of the hardest parts like Another World.. poor guy wasn't doing his vocal chords any favours :/
And his voice only will last great on the first shows of an tour, not many throats can hold this kind of performance for so many years and shows
Man he can’t do them high notes anymore:( age catches up to everyone eventually. But still killer. In person I’d be singing every word! Thank you for being awesome and recording this so the world can enjoy it!
I think it is because he suffered from food poisoning and the doctor told him to rest, but he was on a show singing with dream theater, then it HEAVILY affected his vocal range.
yea, I mean, he's doing great considering that the vocal cords cant be replaced like guitar strings or drum heads. If I was singing for dream theater I would have been mute by the second song
A4
Man, that intro is so killer. John's guitar tone is so on point. I would have loved to hear that song live in person.
I wish they would rerecord this song. Dream Theater's production has come such a long way.
?? The current studio version is perfect as it is. Derek's keys are amazing, and those 90s albums have an atmosphere that the new albums just don't have. Plus, that was prime LaBrie. A modern rerecording could not compare.
Imagine James singing ACOS now
@zennyfrommoga Main thing is the piccolo snare drum probably.
This music is a true masterpiece..
Utter shit
11:33 How I miss this kind of rif in DT... this is the thru prog
Fav moment in this song
Totally agree, they haven’t really had anything like that since A Dramatic Turn of Events
@@MetalheadNation exactly... when mangini got on (althought being great), the band fell in other vibes... like other midia group... so sad
@@viniciussilveira906 Yes, hopefully they will write like this again someday
this part reminds me of Animals as leaders band
I was waiting for Rudess to repeat his subtle trolling from the Metropolis Live performance
yesss he did it! Jordan u legend
Ivelina Pancheva haha I wish Petrucci did the Simpsons theme too
Una roba incredibile!!! Una esecuzione fantastica😮, da pura emozione🎉. Li ho visti tante volte dal vivo ed altrettante in video dvd e you tube, oltre ad amare questo brano tanto lungo quanto formidabile ❤
Tralaltro, il sound della cassa batteria è qui potentissimo e complimenti a chi ha realizzato questo video 🎉
I must have been right behind you for this! I was in the fourth row all the way to the right. Amazing show!!!!
I had front row aisle in the right section- right in front of JP. The reason the audio is so good on these videos is I had the speaker right in front of me, and it wasn't at a horrible loud volume- came out perfect.
This song in lower tune hits differently
Darker
I really never got into dream theater but I distinctly remember really liking this song as a kid. I still do! Rock on!
Hearing this song live would be life changing experience..
Mangini play the 1:44 part different, but sounds so good and “heavy”
08:00 Myung nodding at Labrie trying hit the notes, like a zoologist looking at a panda attempting to mate, lol , brutal XD
18:42 riff sounds cool at lower tuning.
This song is so good tuned down half a step.
Thanks for filming this masterpiece man.
Damn that clean guitar tone is so good
Damn Mangini brings so much more of a metal feel to this overall imo. Awesome.
“More Darker”
Which I did not like.
They have to lower the song so James can sing it, a more metal touch with its perfect for the tone.
Yep it sounds heavier !
That was very good quality! Great filming!
Also, this was in Philly! I was there!
What a full sound!!Thanks for uploading!
one of my faveorites of all time
JPs tone is so gnarly. Love it
8:33
We can hope... for the future...
But there might not be one...
The Portnoy's lack
@@GuilhermeTrovador he is Back, i coming from the future
What a killer recording. Thx 🙏🏽
I was at that show! incredible!!
17:55 Jordan helping Mangini play drums😂😂
Thank you for video! Good quality sound!
Lucky you! we were not allowed to film or even use our cellphones during The Astonishing tour.
My favorite DT song. They did a great job when I just saw them live. James sounded good that night, too in spite of their sound issues. He sounded better than this, don't know what the problem is here...
Yeah I thought LaBrie sounded good when I saw them but it's different when you're there. Unfortunately, all these UA-cam videos show what he really sounds like, and this isn't even that bad. I've seen much worse.
Tours, they ruin the singer's voice. Those first shows will have his voice absolutely on point, but through the tour his voice won't hold that great... I see this easily on Axl Rose too, his voice on the first shows is great too
THanks a lot for filming and sharing this art piece with us!!
I saw this concert back in 2017 in Chicago. I thought that show was very good.
Transition at 18:42 - it gives me goosebumps all the time...
15:20
IIIIII'M sick of all you hypocrites
Holding me at ba-ay
And I don't need your simpath'eh
To get me through the dææææh
Se-sons change, wan so can aaaah,
Hold on boy, no taaahm to cry
Antah tha stangs, AAAAAAHM clamban daaah
Ah wahn latha pash mah awaa-a-ææh
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 wan so can aaah
A change of ...tone.
Been in 3 shows and never get lucky to see this live.....too bad! lol
Chapter V allways gets me..
Jimmy didn't give his greatest Vocal Performance here, but still one of the greatest songs ever!
Jimmy, huh? Ooookayyyyyyyyy...
Who the fuck is jimmy?
@@Haxprocess ummm.... James Le Brie. Affectionately referred to as "Jimmy," by His Bandmates. I am truly sorry if I insulted your sensibilities.
@@jeffreybuckingham3782 I've seen many interviews, documentaries, commentaries, etc. And I've never heard that before, but ok lol.
LaBrie not Le Brie
I've seen Jaimy, but Jimmy is first
In 2024. Who's there?
15:15 - He literally suffers as he sings that. I have no Idea why DT still play those songs and do not pitch them down. And please don't tell me about -1 transposition, it clearly was not enough. It should've been -5 or -7. James recently released an album called 'A beautiful shade of Gray', it has showed CLEARLY what songs James feels comfortable singing. Playing songs in original tuning is a torture for both James and the audience.
This song is literally pitch down the original is more high
Good focus
When they did images and words in Eb it just didn’t sound right, but this works much better. Must be bc much of the song is in a pretty low register as it is.
I think it's because this song is way more 'metal' than anything from images and words, and metal sounds heavier in a lower tunings (to an extent obviously, lower doesnt always mean heavier, but with DT it seems to. Train of Thought, the metal album, has no songs in E Standard whatsoever)
So glad I shelled out the money for good seats for their last 3 tours before corona hit
mike mangini you rock dude
This tour destroyed LaBrie´s voice
Geez, Labrie sounds like he's always shouting
One things different between MP & MM
MP : he played more improvement
MM : he played more elegant
You know what I'm saying.
They're both equally good.
But in a different character playing drums.
MM just lacks the punch that we get from MP. There is this 'UMFP!" feeling with each hit to the snare. or maybe that's just me.
@@shredcoremtb you are not alone
Mangini lacks of RLBBRLBBRLBBRL repetitive from Portnoy, which is a big plus
Mm is the best
Impressive like how MM refuses to do all hihat details and embellishments
He thinks his aproach is better.
He is wrong obviously.
this version is 10x better than mp.. MM is Dream Theater.. better than ever.
with the setup he has . i don't think he can do it comfortably . i frankly dont understand MM hihat playing at all . yes you are a technical monster but that openhihat playing or even hihat finesse is not there since you joined DT . one thing that is consistent with portnoy across all his career is his spectacular use of hihat . there is no DT track that has great Hihat moment seems very robotic . i like MM but not in dream theater
@@meshuggahman3225 Go watch Live from NY and please objectively re-read what you wrote .
He was hired because he was the one who could play the songs more similar to Portnoy but now he does weird things in the fills :(
Uh, this didn't aged well, Manginni played it really good, James tried his best, I know what it feels to not be able to do what you love the best you can, he was a beast back in the day. Hate to see him struggle and damaging himself like that, but love he does not give up never
12:54 I really hate how Ruddes ruins this part in every live version, it sucks
This is sad.He used to sing so high and clear.
I said this in another comment, but he is really sounding like live Vince Neil here, which isn’t a good thing, granted, this is probably as good as Vince would get live.
Did not you think the -1 tone sounds better? I thought!
the intro riff is nice, but other parts are obviously better in original...
11:30 sounds good
Labrie is done..
obviously worst vocal condition... dont get me wrong. I am the greatest supporter of James
Labrie sofrendo pra cantar essa musica
why was everything tuned down
for James’s voice
James is the best.. dream theater ARE James LaBrie!!
SystematiCChaoSDT1 HAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Reverse troll of all time!!!
.really missed mike here. he drums did not have the energy that i longed in a DT concert
Totally agree. The power of A change of Seasons is in Portnoy touch. And also I am big fan of rudess but he changed a lot of the keyboard parts. Something is missing in this version
That's not bring Mike back
I don't care....
Then go watch SOA kids
go watch other band if you want to see portnoy
LaBrie Mangini Labrie Mangini, i saw in comment
It seems as a karaoke, when James sings!
yawn.. anything new? its getting old..
@@meshuggahman3225 yawn? He sounds objectively terrible. I take no pleasure in saying it, I'm a long time dream theater fan, but he sounds awful.
@@spudfella4937 another yawn... terrible? dont listen, you know that he is their SINGER.. bitching wont change anything.. either STFU or listen something else. easy right?
Wow, LaBrie can't sing anymore, that's so sad to hear him. He's trying but he can't.
He's a good singer, what he doesn't have is range sadly lmao his younger version had like an octave and a half more range than he does
This song's pretty cool tho, on the low
''I remember time
When I could sing in key''
Future lyrics perhaps?
Too easy for
Jordan! Lol
Oh my god I feel bad for singer what has happened to him
absolutely not an mp stan but isn’t it wierd that they can play a 23 min song basically describing his life but not some songs about his addictions.
I usually try to avoid bad comments because if i have nothing good to say well... you know, but for me this is the worst version i've heard of A change of seasons. Of course for me it's a million times better with Portnoy. And as for your comment i guess internal politics.
heard the news? :D
@@xsiete25x yup
@xsiete25x I prefer Mangini's crisp, and tight drumming. He so much more nuanced and detailed. Way more exciting.
Mangini responds to the music more. Portnoy is great, but Mangini just has more "octane". An evolution and progression of the art.
18:42 born the funky prog
15:15 to 15:55 WTF with Labrie!!! Its time to start using playback?
Apparently, fingers grow older slower than the voice.
15:45 batera!
I prefer Petrucci's old Ibanez sound for this song.
Don't forget the original Mark-2C he used
yep, definitely a different tone that suits the somng better along the mark 2c, but for a live setting and for the newer records his JP2C + Music man tone is absolutely awesome, though im not a fan of the chorus sometimes
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"Struggle to ease the pain.. Struggle to hit the HIGH NOOOOOOTTTESS* (James screeching, ruining every song)
I didn't know Jesus likes to play guitar.
la voz de labrie buaaa que v3rg4
James...😣😣😣
change him with another mike
his name is actually Kevin but James is fine
James Labrie ya no canta. (Nunca cantó).
Mangini is a robot. There is not a soul in this guy
James is finished
finished what? tour? yep.. new one is coming tho..
James just can't sing... he just can't.
This band should pass out earplugs.
DT needs to give Jeff Scott Soto a call. James is horrendous
fuck that guy.. stay with his mediocre band..
La Brie voice 😪
This is my favorite song from DT, but I feel like they've become so boring live.
How does James still have a job?
라브리에를 놔두고 맨지니를 욕하는것은 좋지 못하다.
Worst Performance for this Masterpiece. 2000 live version still the best
Drums are boring
You told it to mp
Portnoy fanboy confirmed
My god ...is -being there- as bad as it sounds on the video? Last time I've seen them live was with Pornoy, presenting Silver clouds.
I've seen them live last September in Indonesia and IMO they sound great, definitely better than the sound from the video.
@@AlwinArrasyid mgkin krn kualitas rekaman video nya om..
Absolutely butchered by Mangini.
very bad voice for james; unfortunatly !
Sometimes vocals are unnecessarily.
Like grammar
@@DannyMiami09 🤣🔥🔥
Horrible version, both for drums abd keyboards. Slower, less volume on drums and with less convinving keyboard symphonies.
LaBrie is hot garbage now. He completely butchered the vocal high point of the song (14:30). Why would anyone pay money to hear that?
he is the voice of DT.. get over it. dont like it? listen to something else..
@@meshuggahman3225 still sounds like shit lol
Feeding the trolls just this once:
You know, 10 years on and there are still people whining about MP? Seriously? Jeez...let it go. These are the kinds of obsessive fans that no band wants. The same ones that would whine just as loudly should MP ever (God forbid) return to DT because MP wasn't playing MM's parts right or something...or worse, they would complain that MP wasn't playing MP's parts the way MP should play MP's parts. At least MM is more consistent with playing parts, MP used to improvise and change stuff all the time...because he was bored and it got stale...did you Stans ever whine then? If DT pisses you off that bad and you can't help yourself but to be negative and whine about it not being the way YOU want it to be, then go start your own band or go listen to something else. I mean, why bother if it aggravates you that much? Doesn't make sense and is annoying.
You seem to be seriously butthurt. Jeez... let it go, mate. Writing a damn essay about what others think... I wonder what makes your opinion more valid than opinions of others. Fucking snowflake offended by someone else's shoe size. Get a life
Read my comment. This is not about MP. The drumming here is basic (at best) and it's not what you expect of this band. Coupled with a dead singer who won't be professional and adapt his lines... Let's say I admire your capacity to focus on the other instruments.
8:58 jordan rudess count the tempo ...because Mangini is a nightmare! One of the best songs of DT !!
hes not dumbass.. hes playing with a click.. dont talk about rushing or dragging the tempo while MM is playing..
Bro metronomes learn from MM, what are u talking about
Rudes has also done this to MP, not only that time for MM, it's not a problem with MM beats, it has nothing to do with it.
Damn James, you are really disappointing to hear. DT should consider hiring another vocalist.
Sad but true..
Suggestions anyone? Ray Alder? Michael Kiske (which would never happen, but the dude still has it, could handle the back catalog and it would certainly be interesting)?
The old stuff is tough. Their new music accommodates his current range way better.
Seriously.. Stop living in the past.
blastdude89 - Yes, stop wanting singers to actually be able to sing and embrace the fact that they’ve sucked horse balls for fifteen years!
It's not sounds good; Labrie can't sing this anymore -1 tone is not helpful for him, a masterpiece without a master is just a piece. Horrifying... 😣
Man...James needs to retire.