I love how the trial is written too, where magnus is telling his legion “Oh we are finally having a civilized debate over psychic powers in the imperium, what a good chance to get this in the open” to “Why is the people’s court theme playing?”
I turn these episodes on at work and when you said “He is force-fed the entire hammer aisle of a Home Depot” I raised concern from my boss for laughing so hard. Love you guys, thanks for everything.
As much as I am loathing the Space Wolves, both as a Grey Knights fan and a burgeoning Thousand Sons fan- "Counter point: Axe to the eye." Was damn good.
@@alastor8091thats the problem, the GK should have been written fairly but instead are written as a sentient warcrime-prone hive fleet so the SW look more heroic kicking their asses... _in a GK book._
@@Lanninsterlion216 I really didn't see the Grey Knights as war-crime prone in that book. Sure they do some exterminatus, but it is on the direct order of the Inquisition.et us not forget that THEY label the months of shame because they feel that they aren't doing what they are meant to do- killing daemons. The space wolves aren't fully in the right, and they pay the price for it. Magnus is able to assault Fenris precisely because they weakened the defe ces fighting the inquisition.
@@VA_Nightshade To put it another way The Grey Knights said: If we let them live we could lose everything. The Space Wolves said: If we let them die we have already lost.
The threat of "I will rain down fire and brimstone upon thee if you do not surrender" is taken as literal as possible because the thusand sons would make it rain Magma for a week if given the chance to take a world
I never before thought about how the Sons must have reacted upon reaching Prospero. Seeing an entire culture built around psykic potential, with the city manifested by the will of psykers. Must've immediately felt like home.
I feel like the problem that the thousand sons had at the Council of Nikaea, is that the email headline said that the council would be figuring out what the Imperium next steps with Psykers would be. The Sons interpreted it as a debate about whether or not they should loosen the restrictions, while everyone else knew that it was really the last chance they had to explain why they shouldn't execute every last one of their legion.
@@goldietheswagbear8288Old lore said he gave a speech that touched the hearts and minds of everyone present. In the book he basically talks about the cave allegory
13 Shaman in a trench coat made me laugh harder than it should have. Also when demons run for the hills you know it’s bad. Also the ad for rubric was hilarious. I feel bad for the thousands sons.
The emperor no, Leamun Russ and Horus, yes. Emperor explicitly said bring Magnus here (implying alive and assuming that Big E didn't even want to kill Horus it's would be safe to assume he didn't want Leamun to kill his Leigon and break his back).
Ah leman Russ. Chaos’s favorite loyalist primarch. The only primarch to destroy two loyal legions all by himself. Magnus deserves the crap he gets, but where’s our video talking about what Russ did wrong or how the emperor’s executioner didn’t execute Horus when he had the chance.
After watching this I just want to see Leman Russ return but with psyker powers and say "I really owe Magnus an apology." I want to see Leman finding Magnus in the midst of attacking Fenris and just going "Im sorry..." and letting Magnus finally get some closure. Closure being Magnus returning the favor for the back breaker.
Why would Russ apologise? He was right. Magnus literally fucked everyone over because he was blindly arrogant and convinced that he alone knew better than everyone else in the galaxy. Magnus owes literally ALL of his brothers an apology.
@@trevorkopf-johnson5288 I mean if you filter water through coffee beans its not water anymore. If you filter the raw warp through a planet I bet its a hell of a lot safer to use.
@@arkhaan7066 Counter point, using innocent people as meat shields. Near complete genocide of an entire UNDEFENDED planet. Yeah, Russ is gonna need to prepare a HELL of an apology, At least Magnus paid for his mistakes, He has been shattered into a bunch of pieces, His sons are walking pieces of armor, Was pressured into selling his soul to a Chaos God, All under benevolent intentions that Backfired horribly because of his pride.
I don't know why, but for a few months now I've had this story in my head that Slaanesh found Magnus' fragment of childish sense of wonder, naivety, and playfulness. This Essentially gives her/him/it a Child Magnus which she just keeps locked away in a tiny paradise with some deamons caring for little Magnus. Slaanesh or a piece of her also then spends time playing with him and caring for him in an attempt to corrupt the fragment but while she does see it working, it's very very VERY slow. In Little Magnus' perspective he is basically living his childhood with a sweet adoptive mother who gives him all the love, attention and care he could ever want.
Magnus and his legion are pretty well written and very fun to read about. Much like how Horus played Guilliman when the Heresy kicked off, Tzenntch played Magnus perfectly.
Just wanna give proper acknowledgment to the sheer commitment to the bit that was on display. As my 2 favorite 40k lorenerds tend to say: "If the bit is good enough, there is no over-commit." I loved it, and love seeing the sheer glee on Isyander's face matched with Koda's disbelief/horror/humor-stricken face, as appropriate. Thanks guys.
Oh I was hoping you would cover the part where Ahriman fought the Ynnari and Yvraine in the webway and the Eldar trolled the ever living hell out of them! Quick summary for anyone reading this and wants to know; Ahriman and some 1K sons ambushed the Ynnari in the webway and Ahriman had Yvraine and her forces by the metaphorical balls. At one point, Ahriman encounters Yvraine and her little entourage amongst the chaos of the battle and telekinetically lifts them out of the webway corridor into the raw warp where their armor and bodies literally start melting as if submerged in acid. Yvraine then goes all "You know Ahriman, we can make a deal if you let us live! I can cure the flesh change!" and Ahriman is all "pft as if bitch, like you could cure the flesh change". Well, being the chosen one of the Aeldari god of death does have some perks and one of them is apparently curing the flesh change. Yvraine presses her hand against the outer wall of the webway corridor, does some psykic shit, and immediately A DOZEN rubric marines change back into their fleshy forms. All three are in a daze but fully aware of themselves i.e. it's not a trick Yvraine did actually change them back. The shock, grief, relief, and happiness Ahriman feels cannot be overstated; he is described to have pulled the Aeldari back into the webway after cupping his hands, shouting in pure exaltation. It's also described that his shoulders shake uncontrollably so he's probably crying. Immediately after they're all back inside, Yvraine orders one of her forces to use their sword to smash a portion of the crystal webway, causing something akin to opening the emergency door on a plane as the 1K sons are flung out into the warp while the Aeldari brace themselves and hold on. Ahriman screams in denial and rides his floaty disc straight into the warp after them with careless disregard for his own safety.
I can only imagine the relief he feels seeing his brothers fixed from his mistake, the thousands of years of guilt and shame from failing his brothers wash away and immediately get overshadowed by the sudden launch into the warp
The Death guard are a special kind of terrifying. Seeing an immovable wall of borderline statues in rusting armor, and watching as everything around them just starts keeling over and dying before a single shot is fired is horrifying. Its even worse when you remember that whatever inside those suits of armor is no longer human, but a mass of diseased flesh fused with the metal.
Yeah, I'd put the Death Guard above Word Bearers in terms of Chaos Threat level. There's just something about the disease and agony they inflict that puts them above other Traitor Legions. They kill without firing a shot or even being seen, their diseases are such a hard counter against ANYTHING you can try to use for defense and they just. Don't. Stop. Now take all your casualties and add them to their ranks because ZOMBIES.
one point people forget (and this is a VERZ repetitive theme) is that Magnus was about to deliver the death Blow to Leman. But in the last instance Lemans 2 wolves jumped magnus, distracted him enough for leman to break free and THEN hit the eye.
Okay, the faux-commercial for 'Rubric by Ahriman' was MASTERFUL. Bravo!! And yes, Thousand Sons are definitely the Chaos equivalent of The Lamenters in terms of the sheer number and intensity of Ls they are forced to carry.
For the love of every God please do more this length and longer! Im madly in love with this podcast. my wife and I every Monday morning sit in the car in our driveway after dropping our son off at school and binge an episode or 3, if we couod just sit and be enthralled for hours it'd be amazing. ALSO DEATHGUARD
I loves the idea that after the sham of a trial, magnus slowly begins to cast a spell to split holy terra in two on a delay. Magnus is the strongest of his brothers when he tries
i loved the idea of magnus just crying while he sees his sons die untill his tears turn into lava and decides to take care of this massacre, and left with a wolf sweat shirt with the heart of his brother
Also in the book Sons of the Emperor. It was Thousand Son in the tower keeping a barrier up. Sevator talks with Ahriman and they witness Kurze and Mangus arguing this. My first read of it gave me chills because the whole time. Kurze is casually sheathing and unsheathing his talons also emphasizing his words. The book itself is a collecting of short stories involving the primarchs. Real good read.
I see them more of an Icarus legion, they flew too close to the sun and now they're literally suffering from their fall. They are a lesson on humility imo
Magnus himself did nothing wrong.... But good lord did Tzeentch do everything in his power to make sure his fall was inevitable no matter what he did...
@@khaledibrahim614 Angron being a rage monsters is because of the dark age of technology nails in his brain, not Big E. The only thing Big E did wrong was not just also save Angrons slave friends but that wouldn't have saved Angron or prevented Angron from being Angron. Angron at best would have been semi-loyal for a while, at best. That singular act wouldn't have changed Angron fundamentally from who he was forced to become.
This has to be one of the most fun episodes yet despite the Thousand Sons really being put through the wringer. That ad for the Rubric of Ahriman was hilarious. Also, Isyander really looks good in a suit, just saying.
The effort put into this episode is top notch. If anyone doubted your passion, they most certainly began reevaluating their judgement. Ave Dominus Nox, Brothers.
Hi, November baby here; I did the math a few years back and realized that I am born 9 months and a day after Valentines day, so that is knowledge which will burden me eternally and almost certainly lead me down a dark path at some point, which is very on brand for this episode.
I may be loosing my selfrespect here, but BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! On a second note: 32:00 best intermission ever! You look FIRE on this suit Isyander, the UltraMug puled everything together :D
Absolutely loved this episode. The story of Magnus and the Thousand Sons is truly one of the biggest tragedies in 40k. Considering that this was the episode for the biggest boy psykers, it would be fitting for the Death Guard, whose primarch hated psykers, to be next. However I will also throw a vote in for an Alpha Legion episode in the future. Or maybe I am lying. Hydra Dominatus.
This was honestly one of my favorite episodes! Not only do I love the Thousand Sons, but the experimental bits y’all did made it even better (the costume change and rubric add had me howling like the 2nd rubric hit me)
59:36 This is possibly the worst part of the story. Between a reality-puppeting magician getting beaten byvan axe, and the supposed Primarch unmaking Bane reference, this fight is awfully unfair from a writing perspecrive. Magnus is practically beyond reality at this point. No amount of physical strength is going to allow you to suplex Cthulu.
YOUR REPHRASING AND RESTARTING ALMOST WENT OVER MY HEAD!! i love the fallow through of the space lawyer along with the Tzeentch bits. OMG i laughed so hard and then got the " Oh Fuck" oh what his " deals " ment. this poor poor stupid ruby
Death guard, regardless of Nurgel or not they were actually the first intro for me into Warhammer and I’m not a huge Warhammer person but finding this channel was awesome and I’m happy to have found it cause it helped me learn a lot more about it, even if I won’t be joining the fandom in a huge way but I’d love to hear more about them so…… Papa Nurgle’s boys have my vote
Rubric by araman is the best bit you've done and I've watched most patreon and yourube episodes. Now I need a charity bit with "In the Arms of an Angel" in the background.
Prospero's defenses in the Era Indomitus is the incarnation of a simple but twisted question: how much destruction could a good, wise man inflict if all of his compassion was focused into just that - destruction?
LOVED THIS EPISODE !!!! This really made me rethink of the way o view the thousand sons. I am a pretty big fan of the Imperium, and thus have always kind of hated on the Thousand sons as traitors, this definitely gave a different light to them.
All it would of taken for them to be loyal is one of these: Emperor or Malcador teaches Magnus about Chaos Emperor and Malcador not plotting for their end Jaghatai at Nikea or Prospero Magnus not being depressed because of everyone hating them
@@muhammadedwards8425oh and a working communication network, this would make everything easier by Magnus just calling Emps with a phone instead of teleporting to his basement breaking the barrier and dooming the next step of the imperium
This was the only ad I 1. Didn't immediately skip past 2. Actually paid attention to 3. Enjoyed Of course, I was then hit by UA-cam's ads, which ticked none of those boxes 😂
Let's go for Death Guard, I actually know *very* little about Morty's stinky boys. ALSO, fun Fan Theory, some people think that when Big E offered Magnus the chance to mercy kill his sons and come back unto the fold, the Grey Knights were meant to be the ones to replace his executed sons. I don't *think* it was mentioned in the Grey Knights episode, but worth mentioning again regardless.
1. Death Guard next, please 2. Magnus's shard that's concentrated Noble is grabbed and used by Malcador in a ritual to fuse it with Aravida of the O.G Thousand Sons, which creates Janus, the first Comander of the Grey Knights
I really want to see your view on the World Eaters. Kharn has always been one of my favorite characters, and his daddy issues with Angron is always so sad to read about.
Magnus: "You're not going to bombard it Konrad." Konrad: >:3 Also virginity as a side affect of The Rubric Ad parody made me howl with laughter ngl Edit: I genuinely feel sorrow for the Thousands Sons, I knew it was tragic but man I didn't think it was this bad
More Space Wolves! Also a belated comment thinking about how you mentioned the paradox of the wolves and the Thousand Sons: I think a very appropriate way to think of the Wolves’ temperament from 30K to 40K is like that of a Bully who learns how to be a better person.
It’s more the nerd is bitter and didn’t adjust well to life outside school- so now the old bully looks at them and doesn’t feel bad about what he did back then, because by his actions they were degraded to prove those initial beliefs correct.
@SalvanousB45 that's way more accurate and also... the nerd will sometimes get drunk, drive over to the bully's house, and relieve himself on his lawn.
@@SalvanousB45Most important part of that was that the Bully was so big of a hypocrite that he caused the nerd to become the creep he accused him to be. Still I'd blame the emperor and malcador more since this was all foreseen and potentially desirable to them
i found it awesome how you narrated it from the Legions perspective as it just shows the tragedy that happened to them even more. keep up the good work and Deathguard next!! FOR THE GRANDFATHER!
" I don't believe in magic, so therefore it can't effect me " Has to be up there with my paladin in dnd, my dm kept telling me to choose a deity to believe in " well my guy is a self made man, so he receives his divine powers, from the belief in himself " and that's how you get powers to kill a reborn deity
Thanks for another great one! The editing was great on this one and I liked the few little extras ya through in. I love these longer episodes. I so happy to see how much you guys have grown in what seems like not to much time. I been watching now for quite a while probably close to a year or so now. Anywho, thanks again and I’m always looking forward to the next video. Take care and peace. Also, Death Guard is my vote.
I want to say that you are my favorite 40k channel. Your videos do not undersell nor oversell a faction (except for time-constraints, but that is understandable considering the lore video format). Please keep making these videos. High lords of Terra for my vote. I want to learn more about them.
I genuinely think 40k lore is one of the clingiest things ever, but it is so fun and you guys are so charismatic that this is one of my favorite channels.
Magnus sacrificing an eye for knowledge could be a reference to Norse mythology, where Odin sacrifices one of his, also in exchange for a very particular knowledge skill. Prospero is the wizard who rules the island the main characters end up shipwrecked on in the Shakespeare play The Tempest (a very fitting name for a planet ruled by sorcerers!). Incidentally, this is also where the name of the Dark Angels' homeworld comes from, Caliban being Prospero's slave, an ugly and simple-minded creature used for manual labor, in form something like an earth elemental or a golem (in one adaptation I have seen, he's a vegetable golem!), along with Ariel, a wind spirit.
Leman also referenced Odin by impaling himself with his own spear, the Dionysian spear. Odin did the same with Gungnir while hanging by his neck from the branches of Yggdrasil.
Oh this is something I wanted to mention so badly during this episode! But it will definitely come up in the Magnus one. There are all kinds of stories about how Magnus lost his eye. With some people in cannon saying he traded it like Odin did. This is one of the few he does not actively stop from spreading around because he genuinely finds it amusing. So yeah, totally a reference to that -Isyander
@@wookmasterkeef93 or Horus. His uncle tore out his eye in battle and it had to be replaced with moonlight instead of the sunlight his original eye was made of
@@IsyanderandKoda fair enough that it's referencing Norse mythology for Egyptian themed space marines sounds odd to me because the eye of Ra seems too on point to not be mentioned but it's probably funny because it's shots at leman Russ
I got some sort of bad flew the past few days and this viseo has been cheering me up, normally i paint and listen but something comforting just listening
I'd love to see a video on some of the Tzeentch daemon characters like The Changeling, Blue Scribes, and Kairos Fateweaver. But if I have to vote, I'm going for the High Lords of Terra
Love that Koda called out Fullmetal Alchemist with Magnus coming back missing an eye but Fleshchange is magically gone. I was thinking of FMA with the Fleshchange being like what happens when you try to psyker-tap the Warp and won't pay a toll first.
First time comment, deathwatch is a must. I’ve been watching y’all since last year and have learned about 70% of what I know on 40k from y’all, keep up the good work!
Both the suit and Council of Nikaea bit, and the "Rubric by Ahriman" commercial were soo good, top tier comedy!!! As for the next episode, World Eaters
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"I PUNCHED OUT ONE OF HIS HEARTS! WHY DOES NOBODY REMEMBER THAT!?"
YES😂 we know Magnus
It’s because everyone just doesn’t seem to care
Inquisition redacted it and mind wipe everyone who knew because trollolololololol
Don't Primarchs, unlike Space Marines, only have one heart?
No they have two @@mrsamaritan6881
Isyander: hypes the hell out of Magnus in the Space wolves episode.
Also Isyander: wow! How did Thousand sons win the poll that easily?
Tbf they are a pretty iconic faction. I mean, egyptian themed cocky wizards with a big dose of tragedy is certainly something
@@elseggs6504meh not much tragedy in their story. Juggling torches usually leads to burns.
Especially when you have a furry throwing broken glass in your face while you try to do it.
@@arkhaan7066When a furry rips it out of your hand and pushes it into you, yeah.
"using skill based match making to have kids is insanity" is my favorite quote of yall's now.
However, "Counterpoint: axe to the eye" is a 10/10
Take that, FE:Awakening fans! (Alternatively, FE4 fans)
Inother words, eugenics yeah
CK3 players seethe.
I love how the trial is written too, where magnus is telling his legion “Oh we are finally having a civilized debate over psychic powers in the imperium, what a good chance to get this in the open” to “Why is the people’s court theme playing?”
Firstly: Deathguard next.
Secondly: GODDAM THAT SUIT LOOKIN FIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE
FINALLY
I say this as a word bearer, Russ' glowing armor is tzeetch trolling Magnus to push him more to chaos, change my mind
That's the only explanation I'll accept for such a disappointing and lame conclusion to that fight
Thank you for my new canon
I dedicate this vote to the 12 hour Heresy video, the day it comes out I will watch the entire thing in one sitting
I am with you, it would be my repeat listen for work all week just so I could absorb it. Probably get a good 2 and a half listens in the week maybe 3.
I'm absolutely there!!
I will have this on repeat throughout the whole week, the only break I'll get out of it is when I have work
The only break I will take for it is when I sleep
I turn these episodes on at work and when you said
“He is force-fed the entire hammer aisle of a Home Depot”
I raised concern from my boss for laughing so hard.
Love you guys, thanks for everything.
As much as I am loathing the Space Wolves, both as a Grey Knights fan and a burgeoning Thousand Sons fan-
"Counter point: Axe to the eye." Was damn good.
I don't see how one can like the Grey Knights and dislike the Wolves. The Grey Knights were in no way right during the months of Shame.
@@alastor8091thats the problem, the GK should have been written fairly but instead are written as a sentient warcrime-prone hive fleet so the SW look more heroic kicking their asses... _in a GK book._
@@Lanninsterlion216 I really didn't see the Grey Knights as war-crime prone in that book. Sure they do some exterminatus, but it is on the direct order of the Inquisition.et us not forget that THEY label the months of shame because they feel that they aren't doing what they are meant to do- killing daemons.
The space wolves aren't fully in the right, and they pay the price for it. Magnus is able to assault Fenris precisely because they weakened the defe ces fighting the inquisition.
My top two legions are White Scars and Space Wolves. So I can agree that is a solid counter point.
@@VA_Nightshade
To put it another way
The Grey Knights said: If we let them live we could lose everything.
The Space Wolves said: If we let them die we have already lost.
The threat of "I will rain down fire and brimstone upon thee if you do not surrender" is taken as literal as possible because the thusand sons would make it rain Magma for a week if given the chance to take a world
I never before thought about how the Sons must have reacted upon reaching Prospero. Seeing an entire culture built around psykic potential, with the city manifested by the will of psykers. Must've immediately felt like home.
I feel like the problem that the thousand sons had at the Council of Nikaea, is that the email headline said that the council would be figuring out what the Imperium next steps with Psykers would be. The Sons interpreted it as a debate about whether or not they should loosen the restrictions, while everyone else knew that it was really the last chance they had to explain why they shouldn't execute every last one of their legion.
And Magnus isn't very good at speaking.
@@goldietheswagbear8288Old lore said he gave a speech that touched the hearts and minds of everyone present. In the book he basically talks about the cave allegory
Lore was clearly edited by Magnus
@@goldietheswagbear8288 well he spent most of his time reading in seclusion, obviously he wouldnt have social skills
those lawyer and Rubric bits are some of the funniest things I've seen related to Warhammer Lore. Keep it up, the lore is Alpharius.
Commenting so I can like something on this thread again
Thousand Sons faction: member count gets above 1,000
Old guard: why do we hear boss music?!
13 Shaman in a trench coat made me laugh harder than it should have. Also when demons run for the hills you know it’s bad. Also the ad for rubric was hilarious. I feel bad for the thousands sons.
I came from Spotify in order to see Isyander put a suit on.
leman russ: none of my boys ever did that! *hides the wolfen behind him.*
The space wolfs really are just hypocrisy the faction huh?
@@gentlyvillainous Yes, 30k wolves are almost as bad as traitor legions.
Yeah, the emperor and leman betrayed Magnus not the other way around
The emperor no, Leamun Russ and Horus, yes. Emperor explicitly said bring Magnus here (implying alive and assuming that Big E didn't even want to kill Horus it's would be safe to assume he didn't want Leamun to kill his Leigon and break his back).
Ah leman Russ. Chaos’s favorite loyalist primarch. The only primarch to destroy two loyal legions all by himself. Magnus deserves the crap he gets, but where’s our video talking about what Russ did wrong or how the emperor’s executioner didn’t execute Horus when he had the chance.
After watching this
I just want to see Leman Russ return but with psyker powers and say
"I really owe Magnus an apology."
I want to see Leman finding Magnus in the midst of attacking Fenris and just going "Im sorry..." and letting Magnus finally get some closure. Closure being Magnus returning the favor for the back breaker.
Magnus litterally fucked up everything
Yeah, but Russ will just pull the whole these aren't psychic powers it's the Spirit of Fenris...
Same as he did after the Council of N(spelling)
Why would Russ apologise? He was right.
Magnus literally fucked everyone over because he was blindly arrogant and convinced that he alone knew better than everyone else in the galaxy. Magnus owes literally ALL of his brothers an apology.
@@trevorkopf-johnson5288 I mean if you filter water through coffee beans its not water anymore. If you filter the raw warp through a planet I bet its a hell of a lot safer to use.
@@arkhaan7066 Counter point, using innocent people as meat shields.
Near complete genocide of an entire UNDEFENDED planet.
Yeah, Russ is gonna need to prepare a HELL of an apology, At least Magnus paid for his mistakes, He has been shattered into a bunch of pieces, His sons are walking pieces of armor, Was pressured into selling his soul to a Chaos God, All under benevolent intentions that Backfired horribly because of his pride.
World eaters, I just wanna hear about my boy KHARN and the “Erebus Incident”
"get up"
Sanguis Extremis
I bet that's gonna be a Patreon episode. Since they wouldn't even talk about Tyberos.
I don't know why, but for a few months now I've had this story in my head that Slaanesh found Magnus' fragment of childish sense of wonder, naivety, and playfulness. This Essentially gives her/him/it a Child Magnus which she just keeps locked away in a tiny paradise with some deamons caring for little Magnus. Slaanesh or a piece of her also then spends time playing with him and caring for him in an attempt to corrupt the fragment but while she does see it working, it's very very VERY slow.
In Little Magnus' perspective he is basically living his childhood with a sweet adoptive mother who gives him all the love, attention and care he could ever want.
Aw
Yeah I don't think Tzeentch would let that slide
Magnus and his legion are pretty well written and very fun to read about. Much like how Horus played Guilliman when the Heresy kicked off, Tzenntch played Magnus perfectly.
Just finished reading Thousand Sons. Tzeentch doesn’t even lie to Magnus. He gives him the truth more often than not and Magnus hangs himself with it.
Just wanna give proper acknowledgment to the sheer commitment to the bit that was on display. As my 2 favorite 40k lorenerds tend to say: "If the bit is good enough, there is no over-commit." I loved it, and love seeing the sheer glee on Isyander's face matched with Koda's disbelief/horror/humor-stricken face, as appropriate. Thanks guys.
The production quality of this episode is through the roof. I even found the ad online, and immediately ordered my Rubrik of Ahriman.
Oh I was hoping you would cover the part where Ahriman fought the Ynnari and Yvraine in the webway and the Eldar trolled the ever living hell out of them!
Quick summary for anyone reading this and wants to know;
Ahriman and some 1K sons ambushed the Ynnari in the webway and Ahriman had Yvraine and her forces by the metaphorical balls. At one point, Ahriman encounters Yvraine and her little entourage amongst the chaos of the battle and telekinetically lifts them out of the webway corridor into the raw warp where their armor and bodies literally start melting as if submerged in acid. Yvraine then goes all "You know Ahriman, we can make a deal if you let us live! I can cure the flesh change!" and Ahriman is all "pft as if bitch, like you could cure the flesh change". Well, being the chosen one of the Aeldari god of death does have some perks and one of them is apparently curing the flesh change. Yvraine presses her hand against the outer wall of the webway corridor, does some psykic shit, and immediately A DOZEN rubric marines change back into their fleshy forms. All three are in a daze but fully aware of themselves i.e. it's not a trick Yvraine did actually change them back. The shock, grief, relief, and happiness Ahriman feels cannot be overstated; he is described to have pulled the Aeldari back into the webway after cupping his hands, shouting in pure exaltation. It's also described that his shoulders shake uncontrollably so he's probably crying. Immediately after they're all back inside, Yvraine orders one of her forces to use their sword to smash a portion of the crystal webway, causing something akin to opening the emergency door on a plane as the 1K sons are flung out into the warp while the Aeldari brace themselves and hold on. Ahriman screams in denial and rides his floaty disc straight into the warp after them with careless disregard for his own safety.
The Thousand Sons / Aeldari crossover could become legendary
*spoiler alert* it’s mentioned in the Patreon episode for Ahriman. ;)
I can only imagine the relief he feels seeing his brothers fixed from his mistake, the thousands of years of guilt and shame from failing his brothers wash away and immediately get overshadowed by the sudden launch into the warp
I love how you mentioned that one of his kids was so handsome that people wept, and I instantly knew which one he was talking about.
Fulgrim, or Sanguinius but the most possible is Fulgrim
The Death guard are a special kind of terrifying. Seeing an immovable wall of borderline statues in rusting armor, and watching as everything around them just starts keeling over and dying before a single shot is fired is horrifying. Its even worse when you remember that whatever inside those suits of armor is no longer human, but a mass of diseased flesh fused with the metal.
I just realised they're a more smelly Rumbling
Yeah, I'd put the Death Guard above Word Bearers in terms of Chaos Threat level. There's just something about the disease and agony they inflict that puts them above other Traitor Legions. They kill without firing a shot or even being seen, their diseases are such a hard counter against ANYTHING you can try to use for defense and they just. Don't. Stop. Now take all your casualties and add them to their ranks because ZOMBIES.
A Salamander will sort em out in no time with the trusty flamer!
@@ducetown1 actually, theyre so sodden with pus and festering fluids that the fires barely catch.
Not to mention that Typhus is pretty much exclusively bugs in his armor.
Edit: Yes, Typhus is an Oogie-Boogie type beat.
one point people forget (and this is a VERZ repetitive theme) is that Magnus was about to deliver the death Blow to Leman. But in the last instance Lemans 2 wolves jumped magnus, distracted him enough for leman to break free and THEN hit the eye.
THANK YOU.
This is my BF's army and ive wanted to show you gus to him for the longest time!
He now loves you guys!!
Thousand Son' new motto: "Just give me a break."
Space Wolves: "Your terms are acceptable." *proceed to Leman Russ their backs*
Okay, the faux-commercial for 'Rubric by Ahriman' was MASTERFUL. Bravo!!
And yes, Thousand Sons are definitely the Chaos equivalent of The Lamenters in terms of the sheer number and intensity of Ls they are forced to carry.
I gotta erm ackshually for the statement at 1:13:35 about Magnus being the only primarch to accept death, Curze fully accepted death as well.
For the love of every God please do more this length and longer!
Im madly in love with this podcast. my wife and I every Monday morning sit in the car in our driveway after dropping our son off at school and binge an episode or 3, if we couod just sit and be enthralled for hours it'd be amazing. ALSO DEATHGUARD
I don't know how you did it, but even as a MAJOR space wolf fan, you made me feel genuine for the thousand sons!
Thousand sons would 100% be on ancient aliens in real life
"Did ancient man build the pyramids? Or was it the Chaos Gods?!"
1:04:30 to be fair, he lost to Russ while every card was stacked against him. Alone, Sisters of Silence, and the anti-psyker armor
When you realise magnus is just as much a reference to Edgar Allen poe as corvus corax
I was just thinking those two have THE WORST stories, the Thousand Sons and The Raven Guard the most tragic legions
@@inquisitorgrynthebandito2736The bird legions man…
I loves the idea that after the sham of a trial, magnus slowly begins to cast a spell to split holy terra in two on a delay. Magnus is the strongest of his brothers when he tries
Yeah. Magnus didnt lose to Leman. He lost to plot.
i loved the idea of magnus just crying while he sees his sons die untill his tears turn into lava and decides to take care of this massacre, and left with a wolf sweat shirt with the heart of his brother
Also in the book Sons of the Emperor. It was Thousand Son in the tower keeping a barrier up. Sevator talks with Ahriman and they witness Kurze and Mangus arguing this. My first read of it gave me chills because the whole time. Kurze is casually sheathing and unsheathing his talons also emphasizing his words. The book itself is a collecting of short stories involving the primarchs. Real good read.
The “ We must give our antagonist the most tragic backstory to identify with and explain why they’re evil turning them into antihero’s” trope Legion.
I see them more of an Icarus legion, they flew too close to the sun and now they're literally suffering from their fall. They are a lesson on humility imo
@@dontgetmarriedNot really when they weren't taught the Sun exists while Daedalus plots their downfall
Magnus embodies one of mu favourite phrases. "A clever man is most vulnerable when he's trying to be clever."
Magnus himself did nothing wrong.... But good lord did Tzeentch do everything in his power to make sure his fall was inevitable no matter what he did...
He didn’t do wrong, but there was a LOT that he didn’t do right too lol
@@comediccomrade5716 a lot of what magnus did wrong is directly responsible to E being a shit father and a worse teacher
@@BlyssOblyvionchange the word magnus and this applies to nearly every primarch.
@@no.notfromRDR angron particularly comes to mind here poor raging demon of anger.
@@khaledibrahim614 Angron being a rage monsters is because of the dark age of technology nails in his brain, not Big E. The only thing Big E did wrong was not just also save Angrons slave friends but that wouldn't have saved Angron or prevented Angron from being Angron. Angron at best would have been semi-loyal for a while, at best. That singular act wouldn't have changed Angron fundamentally from who he was forced to become.
This has to be one of the most fun episodes yet despite the Thousand Sons really being put through the wringer. That ad for the Rubric of Ahriman was hilarious. Also, Isyander really looks good in a suit, just saying.
The effort put into this episode is top notch.
If anyone doubted your passion,
they most certainly began reevaluating their judgement.
Ave Dominus Nox, Brothers.
Hi, November baby here; I did the math a few years back and realized that I am born 9 months and a day after Valentines day, so that is knowledge which will burden me eternally and almost certainly lead me down a dark path at some point, which is very on brand for this episode.
I may be loosing my selfrespect here, but BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
On a second note: 32:00 best intermission ever! You look FIRE on this suit Isyander, the UltraMug puled everything together :D
KORNE CARES NOT FROM WHENCE THE BLOOD FLOWS, ONLY THAT IT DOES!
CORN FOR THE CORNFLAKES!
@@OMartinez91one day you switches for fruit loop, the next you are putting blood on your Korn flakes! 😂🤣
Absolutely loved this episode. The story of Magnus and the Thousand Sons is truly one of the biggest tragedies in 40k.
Considering that this was the episode for the biggest boy psykers, it would be fitting for the Death Guard, whose primarch hated psykers, to be next.
However I will also throw a vote in for an Alpha Legion episode in the future. Or maybe I am lying.
Hydra Dominatus.
The bell tolls for the Grandfather's favorite children! Also I think we can all agree that a nearly 2 hour episode is a blessing.
1:01:29
I love this. I just here a voice in the back of my head
"God help you, God help you, I will make sure you leave knowing less"
This episode is pure GOLD!
The trial and medical ad bits have really put this episode in my top fave 5.
My vote is for the Eaters of Worlds!!
I love Isyander's enthusiasm for this episode. Just surpassed Koda's denim stealers
This was honestly one of my favorite episodes! Not only do I love the Thousand Sons, but the experimental bits y’all did made it even better (the costume change and rubric add had me howling like the 2nd rubric hit me)
59:36 This is possibly the worst part of the story. Between a reality-puppeting magician getting beaten byvan axe, and the supposed Primarch unmaking Bane reference, this fight is awfully unfair from a writing perspecrive. Magnus is practically beyond reality at this point. No amount of physical strength is going to allow you to suplex Cthulu.
YOUR REPHRASING AND RESTARTING ALMOST WENT OVER MY HEAD!! i love the fallow through of the space lawyer along with the Tzeentch bits. OMG i laughed so hard and then got the " Oh Fuck" oh what his " deals " ment. this poor poor stupid ruby
Emperor of man kind to Mangus “Oh, I forgot. Your broken. I don’t want to play with you anymore”.
Death guard, regardless of Nurgel or not they were actually the first intro for me into Warhammer and I’m not a huge Warhammer person but finding this channel was awesome and I’m happy to have found it cause it helped me learn a lot more about it, even if I won’t be joining the fandom in a huge way but I’d love to hear more about them so……
Papa Nurgle’s boys have my vote
The death guard was what i learned about first too. I read the Horus Heresy books out of order and read buried dagger first. Fantastic book
Rubric by araman is the best bit you've done and I've watched most patreon and yourube episodes.
Now I need a charity bit with "In the Arms of an Angel" in the background.
Prospero's defenses in the Era Indomitus is the incarnation of a simple but twisted question: how much destruction could a good, wise man inflict if all of his compassion was focused into just that - destruction?
Who is a good man in this, exactly?
@@BoxCox Magnus the Red.
LOVED THIS EPISODE !!!! This really made me rethink of the way o view the thousand sons. I am a pretty big fan of the Imperium, and thus have always kind of hated on the Thousand sons as traitors, this definitely gave a different light to them.
All it would of taken for them to be loyal is one of these:
Emperor or Malcador teaches Magnus about Chaos
Emperor and Malcador not plotting for their end
Jaghatai at Nikea or Prospero
Magnus not being depressed because of everyone hating them
@@muhammadedwards8425oh and a working communication network, this would make everything easier by Magnus just calling Emps with a phone instead of teleporting to his basement breaking the barrier and dooming the next step of the imperium
Hope we can all agree that we were all happy when we saw this episode length, bless the emperor!
This was the only ad I
1. Didn't immediately skip past
2. Actually paid attention to
3. Enjoyed
Of course, I was then hit by UA-cam's ads, which ticked none of those boxes 😂
The stars have aligned that I&K and Adeptus Ridiculous both talked about the Thousand Sons (kinda) in the same week together.
Yep! AdRic did Magnus last Wednesday, which means that they will do the Thousand Sons this Wednesday. Three K-Sons related videos in a week, WOOHOO!!!
Does this mean that I&K will make a glancing mention of the female Cuckstodes in a few weeks?
I've watched enough "If the emperor had a text-to-speech device" to know that the high Lords of Terra need a video!
Let's go for Death Guard, I actually know *very* little about Morty's stinky boys.
ALSO, fun Fan Theory, some people think that when Big E offered Magnus the chance to mercy kill his sons and come back unto the fold, the Grey Knights were meant to be the ones to replace his executed sons. I don't *think* it was mentioned in the Grey Knights episode, but worth mentioning again regardless.
Interesting theory considering a high ranking Grey Knight (the founder IIRC) was a loyalist Thousand Son.
1. Death Guard next, please
2. Magnus's shard that's concentrated Noble is grabbed and used by Malcador in a ritual to fuse it with Aravida of the O.G Thousand Sons, which creates Janus, the first Comander of the Grey Knights
I really want to see your view on the World Eaters. Kharn has always been one of my favorite characters, and his daddy issues with Angron is always so sad to read about.
Magnus: "You're not going to bombard it Konrad."
Konrad: >:3
Also virginity as a side affect of The Rubric Ad parody made me howl with laughter ngl
Edit: I genuinely feel sorrow for the Thousands Sons, I knew it was tragic but man I didn't think it was this bad
More Space Wolves!
Also a belated comment thinking about how you mentioned the paradox of the wolves and the Thousand Sons: I think a very appropriate way to think of the Wolves’ temperament from 30K to 40K is like that of a Bully who learns how to be a better person.
they are like a bully who learns to be better, but when he sees the nerds he was picking on, he'll still talk shit about when they were in school
It’s more the nerd is bitter and didn’t adjust well to life outside school- so now the old bully looks at them and doesn’t feel bad about what he did back then, because by his actions they were degraded to prove those initial beliefs correct.
@SalvanousB45 that's way more accurate and also... the nerd will sometimes get drunk, drive over to the bully's house, and relieve himself on his lawn.
Space Wolves suck ass, I'm glad Magnus got back at them.
@@SalvanousB45Most important part of that was that the Bully was so big of a hypocrite that he caused the nerd to become the creep he accused him to be. Still I'd blame the emperor and malcador more since this was all foreseen and potentially desirable to them
i found it awesome how you narrated it from the Legions perspective as it just shows the tragedy that happened to them even more. keep up the good work and Deathguard next!! FOR THE GRANDFATHER!
An hour and fourty five minutes on this one? I'm all for it!
Really appreciate how hard you commit to the bit in this one
" I don't believe in magic, so therefore it can't effect me "
Has to be up there with my paladin in dnd, my dm kept telling me to choose a deity to believe in " well my guy is a self made man, so he receives his divine powers, from the belief in himself " and that's how you get powers to kill a reborn deity
Thanks for another great one!
The editing was great on this one and I liked the few little extras ya through in. I love these longer episodes.
I so happy to see how much you guys have grown in what seems like not to much time. I been watching now for quite a while probably close to a year or so now.
Anywho, thanks again and I’m always looking forward to the next video.
Take care and peace.
Also, Death Guard is my vote.
death guard before the heresy i did like their shtick of “We are walls closing in on you” so id be down for a death guard video
I would LOVE longer videos like two hours or so… also, blood for the blood god
I still believe my head cannon of one of the 2 lost primarcs is a humanitarian saw the emperor for what he was and turned away
That's some mad heresy you got there. Have you heard of our lord and saviour, the Prince of Pleasure?
This is some heresy.
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I need that longer video. Having 12 hours of you two is the best i can imagine.
I want to say that you are my favorite 40k channel. Your videos do not undersell nor oversell a faction (except for time-constraints, but that is understandable considering the lore video format). Please keep making these videos.
High lords of Terra for my vote. I want to learn more about them.
I genuinely think 40k lore is one of the clingiest things ever, but it is so fun and you guys are so charismatic that this is one of my favorite channels.
I was sad when this didn't come out Saturday....I CRYED...HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO MEEEEE!!!!!
Anyways....Yay Deathguard!!!!!!!!!!!
6 months later, Isyander looks damn good in that suit.
Magnus sacrificing an eye for knowledge could be a reference to Norse mythology, where Odin sacrifices one of his, also in exchange for a very particular knowledge skill.
Prospero is the wizard who rules the island the main characters end up shipwrecked on in the Shakespeare play The Tempest (a very fitting name for a planet ruled by sorcerers!). Incidentally, this is also where the name of the Dark Angels' homeworld comes from, Caliban being Prospero's slave, an ugly and simple-minded creature used for manual labor, in form something like an earth elemental or a golem (in one adaptation I have seen, he's a vegetable golem!), along with Ariel, a wind spirit.
Leman also referenced Odin by impaling himself with his own spear, the Dionysian spear. Odin did the same with Gungnir while hanging by his neck from the branches of Yggdrasil.
Sorry buddy you don't know Egyptian mythology look up the eye of Ra
Oh this is something I wanted to mention so badly during this episode! But it will definitely come up in the Magnus one.
There are all kinds of stories about how Magnus lost his eye. With some people in cannon saying he traded it like Odin did. This is one of the few he does not actively stop from spreading around because he genuinely finds it amusing.
So yeah, totally a reference to that
-Isyander
@@wookmasterkeef93 or Horus. His uncle tore out his eye in battle and it had to be replaced with moonlight instead of the sunlight his original eye was made of
@@IsyanderandKoda fair enough that it's referencing Norse mythology for Egyptian themed space marines sounds odd to me because the eye of Ra seems too on point to not be mentioned but it's probably funny because it's shots at leman Russ
Why is he changing into a suit…?
“Today we will present the case of…”
Oh, that’s why he changed a suit.
The costume change cements this podcast as one of the greats
Loved it guys. Magnus is one of my favorites seeing the futility and horror of being a psyker in 40k
DEATH GUARD!!! PLS Since I found your channel I've been waiting for more on the Deathguard. They are my favourite faction :3
I got some sort of bad flew the past few days and this viseo has been cheering me up, normally i paint and listen but something comforting just listening
I'd love to see a video on some of the Tzeentch daemon characters like The Changeling, Blue Scribes, and Kairos Fateweaver. But if I have to vote, I'm going for the High Lords of Terra
Love that Koda called out Fullmetal Alchemist with Magnus coming back missing an eye but Fleshchange is magically gone. I was thinking of FMA with the Fleshchange being like what happens when you try to psyker-tap the Warp and won't pay a toll first.
WORLD EATERS!!! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!!!!
First time comment, deathwatch is a must. I’ve been watching y’all since last year and have learned about 70% of what I know on 40k from y’all, keep up the good work!
SMELLY BOIS!!! Great videos guy, cant believe we got 2 hours.
I absolutely love listening to yall while at work or playing games so longer videos really feel better for that
28:20 Leemen went I’m the postman and your package is my fist!
That suit bit was amazing, please do more. Its nice seeing that side of it
THANK YOU MAGNUS
this is probably the best episode you guys have posted! I loved every minute of it! keep it up!
Not even a big thousand sons fan but omg this was probs one of my favorite episodes
Both the suit and Council of Nikaea bit, and the "Rubric by Ahriman" commercial were soo good, top tier comedy!!!
As for the next episode, World Eaters
Omg I just finished playing a game of Warhammer kill team and gotta go bed it's midnight I can't wait to listen at work tomorrow!