My favorite meme about the space wolves is that their names in Fenrisian probably mean "Thor the daemon killer", "Gnoll the backbreaker", or "Logan the oathkeeper", but in High Gothic, it's just some variant of Wolfy McWolfson or Moony McMoonface
In the book "prospero burns" the wolves explain that they basically just always take things to the extreme. If they're there to invade, they obliterate. If they're there to protect, they move mountains. It's less about dichotomy and more about doing whatever they were assigned to to an excessive degree at all times
More like, whatever they do, make it a 'Deed worthy of Saga'. Fell the biggest foe, save the most kids, drink the most ale etc. etc. whatever it is, make it a story to remember and you will be honoured in the halls of Russ.
The unifying fact is that they're the broest of bros. A bro will trash your house partying way too hard, but a bro will also call his buddies and spend the whole day helping you move because it's a great workout. Whether for good or bad, Space Wolves have bro energy dialed up to the max.
@@MoriaGecko1 Every true, Salamanders are lawful good big bro energy, happy to ensure their little siblings doing well. Space wolves are the full spectrum xD
why and how the hell i can hear that line in my head with a picture of vulkan grinning smile and leman just giving a serious thought whether he want let him pet or not. damn. 🤔🤔
Russ won the contests on a technicality by making it a contest of speed, rather than endurance. Simply put, he finished all the booze/food before Emps could finish his first round.
What I'm hearing is that the Emperor took a page out of Odin's book and disguised himself as a wandering old man before revealing himself, declaring his names and titles, and then proceeds to participate in classic challenges from Norse mythology. When they say "there is only war" they aren't kidding, because the subtlety got replaced with war as well.
@@alexandergogolev702the other is that in the tale of ragnarok where the world is destroyed ending the time of the gods before it can start anew Odin the sorceror who sacrificed his own eye for more power is killed by Fenrir. Which is quite similar to Leman Russ fighting Magnus the one eyed sorceror with the Horus Heresy being the ragnarok stand in.
How they did it: Logan Grimnar, Wolf Santa, full force ran in Terminator Armor, the stuff meant to be a bullet sponge (so defense, not speed), cut down both the Inquistor and the Grey Knight, wiped down his ax, and then basically asked "will there be a problem?" in a tone that said "I still have enough energy to kick all your assess"
That was their worst mary sue moment in the franchise. That scene only would make sense if Logan were a primarch or a custodian. Just replace "logar grimmar" with "cato sicarius" and try to imagine how the fandom would have reacted.
Yeah but it’s their chapter master and it still no where near as bad as some of the ultra marines stuff or a character like the blood angle’s edgy grim reaper. One guy running in terminator for a sprint is more believable.
@@leandrocastello309You do realize Space Wolves are specialized in killing other Astartes right? Their latent resistance to psychic powers make them the perfect counter.
GENESTEALERS: "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!" "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!" "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!" "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!" "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!" "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!" *there are more and they are ready to get out."
So the whole "wake up in a tundra and make it back to The Fang through all this shit" is basically when you start a new run in Skyrim and going straight for the Battleaxe of Fiery Souls as soon as you can.
Even more fun fact, those aren't wolves at all. They're some kind of warp entity/warp tainted thing. Magnus divined their evolution path in one of the books and laughed when he realized they weren't "natural"
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 they're humans. Genetic shenanigans from the time when Humanity was the De Facto leading faction in the universe. The Space Wolves ignore it, the Thousand Sons know it, and it's funny. As a Space Wolves player myself, that fact makes too much sense for the other SW fans to go apeshit about it.
the "your gonna embarrass me in front of the wizards" reference, at least where i heard it from, is avengers infinity war, iron man says it to banner when he cant transform into hulk. the aforementioned wizard is doctor strange
Just imagining a fully armored Ultramarine trying to politely describe the delicate flavour of a local liquor is so funny to me; like a massive dude holding a whiskey glass between thumb and index finger, big booming voice, like "subtle notes of cinnamon"
@@soffren no such thing as “try” here, the Neuroglottis would let him break down its chemistry so he could unironically tell you things like where it was grown or in what type of vessel it was aged.
@@themilkman993"Dude chill I dont need you telling me the precise measurements and origin of my ingredients" I like that when space Marines try to talk to people casually they just weird them out even more
So, either there has been some new information on the topic or Isyander simplified the arrival on Prospero a lot. Yes, Horus did contact Leman along the way and told him to kill Magnus and the Sons, but here’s the special thing now: despite Leman being „the executioner“ and hating Magnus, he did not want to Kill his brother. Before Leman & the Wolves landed on Prospero, Leman wanted to communicate with Magnus one last time because despite his reputation, when it came to critical situations, Leman always had a sound mind of judgement and was extremely reliable. He wanted to talk to Magnus and despite Horus‘ orders, wanted to end the whole conflict peacefully and take Magnus with him to Terra to see the Emperor. But since Magnus refused to answer his calls and rejected any advances for communication, Leman was forced to raise his hand and only then decided to attack Prospero. He didn’t go in foaming out his mouth just waiting to murder his brother and his Legion
There are two wolves inside us all... in our... inner Space you could say. One stands for the pack, is noble and inspiring. The other surfs in on the corpse of a thousand son with a 6 pack and a boom box blasting Immigrant song. Genestealers lets go.
You got through this entire video and never mentioned the wolf pelts they wear -are their own skins- from when they were changing on the walk to the Fang because of the Canis Helix. Its the most Viking-metal-madness thing!
Slight correction. 44:30 Russ did not go out of his way to murder the Thousand Sons at the start. He tried a hail Magnus for his surrender. Even useing one of his legions "spies" to attempt a pshychic message. He did not want to see another brother wiped off the ledger, even one he hated like Magnus. But, when he choose to unleash his sons, there was a no prisoner mentality among his men.
Tbf to both Magnus and Russ at that moment Horus was both A. Fallen to Chaos and B. Intercepted those hails by infiltrating his agents amongst the wolves mortal auxiliary. They were both screwed by Horus's fall in that moment at least.
@@Red13aron Ohh, I was just pointing out Russ did TRY other options. Its just that between Horus' scheming, and Magnus idiocy, he was left with few options.
@VA_Nightshade Additionally, the initial standoff only arose due to Ahriman's outright disobedience of Magnus' orders. Magnus ordered his Legion to laydown arms and surrender their Primarch (Magnus himself) peacefully, accept any casualties taken in the intial planet fall of the Wolves and not fight back (especially with Psykers) under any circumstances. Ahriman refused those orders and commanded the Thousand Sons to defend Magnus with everything they had if the Wolves made planet fall. They (The Thousand Sons) fired opon and killed the loyal messengers sent by the Wolves traitorous human Auxiliaries as the traitorous Astropath's psychic message reached Ahriman misinforming him that the landing craft had a Kill Team aboard sent to Execute Magnus and the Chief Librarian himself. Russ was told they literally rejected psychic messages and destroyed the messengers landing craft as a show of defiance. From there Russ unleashed that fury of orbital bombardment as a message for the Thousand Sons to stand down. Which, did not deter Ahriman or the Legion. It only made them want to fight to defend Magnus even more. It was pretty much a slaugther from that point on, Russ and the Wolves decended and fought ruthlessly. Many Thousand Sons did die due to hesitation, in firing on the refugees or even at any Space Wolf. The Wolves never hesitated after that however, they were essentially swayed by the "proof" of the Thousand Sons Herasy and betrayal by that point. When the Thousan sons started throwing out offensive psychic attacks, that only reinforced their "Proof". It was ultimately Ahriman's call to defend and use psykers that doomed most of the Thousand Sons that died to their fate that day. Ahriman was always power hungry bastard that coveted the power that came from all sorts of forbidden knowledge. He was an easy mark for chaos, Tzeench more specifically.
this is one of those things that has been rewritten a few times. in the old 30k codexes they talk about the fall in a much more murder gung ho manner. when the novel came out for the horus heresy series, that changed a lot, making russ much more willing to come and take him without burning everything to the ground. that same book also alludes very heavily that russ and the wolves are responsible for at least 1 of the 2 missing legions being wiped out, giving a bit more credence to his title as the emperor's executioner.
I hope that comment gets pinned because it's the type of lore that gets meme'd and never corrected so it just spreads without actually being the lore now.
If I remember correctly, part of the things they did to end The Months of Shame, was they woke up Bjorn the Fell Handed (one of the oldest loyalist space marines, was the personal aid to Leman Russ, and the first Great Wolf after Russ disappeared), who basically told the Inquisition, the Grey Knights and the Wolves "Everyone sit down.....NOW". After telling the survivors of the Inquisitor's group to stop groveling, he told the Inquisition to not come back, then demanded that the Grey Knights (the most secretive and classified space marines) explain exactly who they were and why the Wolves shouldn't kill them now...and everyone listened to him.
The funniest part of Björn waking up to meet the inquisition is he recognizes that a female inquisitor in the retinue is from fenris and when he calls her pretty the grey knight captain wonders if the process to make marines was different back then to be able recognize her attractiveness
@@HyperboreanJihad My man Bjorn can hit on anyone, he tries to flirt with a Sister of Silence in the books. Mind you, that same Sister has a null aura strong enough than no-one else can even look her in they eye and he tries to rizz her up, it's hilarious.
As a 1,000 Sons fan thank you, I know you said you going to be the hype man for the Space Wolves and be extra respectful to them. But thank you for also being somewhat respectful to the 1,000 Sons and Magnus.
Space Wolves are NOT the only space marines to find a way to drink alcohol. If I’m right some blood angels make wine and the Black Legion have a weird moonshine
@@LexYeenGiven how they seem to be obsessed with keeping the Red Thirst under control I wouldn't be shocked if they use wine spiked with a touch of blood as some sort of equivalent to nicotine gum.
They really made my boy Hyperion dirty by just delegating him as “named gray knight”… which he is, but also he had just walked out of a 99 gray knight engagement as one of the 4 survivors, he deserves a video of his own! Voting for the denim fanatics too, them jeans aren’t stealing themselves.
It's kinda funny because some of the Black Liberary authors very blatantly agree with you. The scene in Wolfsbane where Loken is told not to call the legion "the space wolves", and that members of The Rout view the "wolf wolf wolf" stuff to be something that ignorant off world'ers do, being an easy example off the top of my head
For me is the plot armor and the hypocrisy of the rune priests. Not only do they have psycker those specific psyckers (and the space wolves in general) are resistant to corruption. Why? Because fenris has a presence in the warp.
I am surprised that they completely left out any mention of the Dark Angels. Yes, the Space Wolves and Thousand Sons have a deep hatred for one another, but it’s the Dark Angels that are their biggest rivals. For instance, after the Lion knocked out Leman with that sucker punch, the two Legions started arguing and bickering on who was the rightful winner of the fight (Wolves say Lion cheated while the Angels said Leman lost after opening his guard up by laughing) and so decided that on a yearly basis, the Angels and Wolves meet up and their choses champions fight each other and the winner of the fight and their Legion get to be „the correct answer“ on the debate on who fairly won the fight and in general show who is the better legion with that W. I think in the beginning, when they first came up with the idea, the champion of the wolves approached the Lion and demanded to face his champion, only for Lion to say: „it’s me“ and then punched the guy across the room, knocking him out.
@@ЯАга-я4л that i‘m not sure about it, but the fight between Lion and Russ happened long ago, even before the Heresy and the Legions started that competition while both were still around
You forgot the end of the Lion and the Wolf’s brawl - At the end of the Heresy the Lion tried to gut Leman for preventing both of them getting to Terra on time. Russ responds by taking the sword in the gut, hauling himself up on the blade and hugging the Lion and saying something along the lines of ‘Let this be the end of the bad blood between us’.
the months of shame was the space wolves reminding the inquisition and gray nights why they were the emperors chosen executioners. they get shit done on a level most legions wish they could.
I really like how u went deep into prospero. Its option A where we lightly touch a broad range of topics and option B where we get less topics but more detail. I’ll choose B :) great episode!
FOR RUSS AND THE ALL FATHER! Been a fan for a long time finally got the confidence to comment. I appreciate you guys so much and I would get your patreon if I had the mystical power of disposable income. Please keep doing what you two do!
Abaddon the Despoiler for the 13th bracket. But yeah, the Wolves are... A strange bunch. The more I learn about them, the more I go "huh. ... I actually kinda like these guys!" I blame our Space Wolf companion in Rogue Trader.
My grandmother passed away this week and I need a pick me up and NOW I HAVE THE PATRON WOOOOw!! still sad though but you guys help a lot honestly. Thank you two and this great community
1:09:17 I'll never forget the color commentator saying Undertaker has killed Mankind and he loves it, then cutting to Mark Calloway (the person who plays "The Undertaker") face showing actual fear that he actually did possibly kill Mick is such tonal whiplash, i can't help myself from cackling like a mad person Oh a vote against Abaddon
I really want a thousand sons episode now. Still not a huge fan of the space wolves but have more respect for them now. Great video again keep up the great work
I've been binging other channel's 40k content HEAVILY, but I still quite enjoy this one for how they present all their info. It's very in depth, but also the way Isyander phrases his analyses is superb.
Aspect Warriors is my vote. I think there are a lot of fan theories out that the Wolves lack of restraint when it came to wiping out the Thousand Sons can be tied to the now missing 2nd and 11th Legions.
We need an episode on the primarchs home worlds and what they were before and after their respective primarch arrived and “took over” the planet or whatever they did!
This video was amazing like all the rest. Jack is amazing for doing that for y'all but isyander kinda (not really) a back handed gift. I know you can paint it well, and even if you can't it's still a one of a kind. Have a good rest of y'all's day.
Yk the channel is great when there’s 133 views and 33 comments after 3 mins. I’ve had zero knowledge of wh40k untill I found this account and now my tism is full clip into the lore. Current favs are the grey knights,salamanders,white scars. Custodies are cool but kinda giga chads to me. Thanks for all great vids and making work way easier by listening to the demonculaba episode.
I am right there with you, my friend. I had some knowledge from weshammer, but he got into storytime so much I had to find more consistent lore videos and found these guys. Think it was around this past December. I am now mostly caught up on patreon and current on UA-cam. I have been a patron for less than 2 weeks. I may have a problem.
Just so you know, the story of the emperor meeting LR is straight ripped out of norse mythos where some giants in disguise challenged Thor, Loki and a regular guy who could run really fast for some reason to a drinking contest, a feast and a foot race. The giants won through using magical trickery, but ya. Straight out of norse mythos.
50:05 I would have been satisfied with only the JoJo pose, but EMPEROR DANG! Bro enterd with the power of God (Capital G!) and anime on his side and dicided to 1 v 1 the raid boss! You can't hipe it up enough!
You can use Fenrisian ale as a viable substitute for promethium in some chimera variants. The AdMechs recommend against this practice though as nothing will destroy a chimera machine spirit faster than getting it drunk on Fenrisian ale.
I actually used to own a Rhodesian ridgeback boxer mix. She got out of the pen once with her son, and the two ran so far that two days later, we got a call a county over saying that they found our dogs.
This episode is interesting to watch after the Thousands Son episode, cause you see Isyander get a LOT of the context to Magnus and the Thousand Sons in their episode. Basically two ways to view the Sons, either the Space Wolf way which realllllly simplifies some of their stuff in broad strokes and loses a lot of context, or the Thousand Sons way which involves a lot of "Oh dear...no...oh god..." the more you learn...and if anything makes their fall that much more of a tragedy. Personally, I think the Thousand Sons "could" have been bros with the Wolves but both had a certain changer of ways arranging stuff so they absolutely did not get along ever.
As someone with 45 days of siege, I can confirm I am the closest thing to that mythical person, and it’s where I DONT scream curse words and throw things when I die. I just assume they’re better
So, I have a home made space marine chapter that is descended from the space wolves called the flaming tongues. They are a part of the cursed founding, and were an attempt to remove the wolfen curse from the space wolves and it worked. The problem is the curse of the wolfen got replaced with the curse of the drunkard as in they are all alcoholics. They also have a mutation in their acid spitting gland which lets them spit napalm hot enough to cook a space marine in armor. They also have a two other mutations one in their muscles which makes them stronger the more alcohol they drink, and the other makes them more resistant to the warp which makes them especially effective against chaos, and their librarians can just spam psychic powers without concern. They are a fleet based chapter with their ships being named after various alcoholic beverages like the ISS IPA or its sister ship the ISS Unfiltered IPA, and every ship is equipped the the means to produce an endless stream of alcohol. Their recruitment process is similar to the space wolves where there are multiple steps accept they just hand you a really strong gene seed cocktail, and if your conscious after downing it your drunk behind is strapped to a table for organ implantation if not then they just shoot you out the airlock. They have a bright red color schemes and my home group even came up with unique rules for them like the ultra marines get.
He was describing the recruits treck back to The Fang and I've come to the realization... That my Grandparent's were Space Wolves as they did that both ways to and from school.
while i understand they fit their intended purpose in the story, i f*cking hate the inquisition more than any other faction. i would rather fight orcs with my fists than work FOR the inquisition. in this regard, the writers did a good job with them.
I'm absolutely down for the Aspect Warriors. They really are like the Space Marines of the Eldar. As far as I know (don't quote me on that). Also; Grimaldus of the Black Templars gets his credit. But a saga being sung/spun for a Space Wolf's deeds and accomplishments probably blows that out of the water, realistically speaking since they're somewhere between what people think Vikings/Ancient Scandinavians were and what they actually were. Like Viking mostly just kinda meant “Traveler”, meaning you could go viking somewhere or somehow that doesn't involve burning down and pillaging other lands and farms for food and riches. They could just be figuring out a trade deal like 30 miles of sea travel away because that's faster than going by horse across land (and there aren't many horses either 😅). These guys really are Frat Bros mixed with like the Renn Fair version of Vikings, in fact like a college dormitory version of the Minnesota Vikings football team and a little bit of the cold calculating precision of the “White Death" sniper soldier in WWI that scared the piss out of the Russians they fought.
Amazing episode! Now, once more I ask for the Aspect Warriors. But seriously though, given what has been learned regarding the cultures that gave rise to the Vikings, them looking out for those they consider under their protection vs. those they consider their enemies, their wild swings between Guardians and Destroyers honestly makes a tonne of sense. It's just that it's 40K, so everything must turned up to 12.
I like to think that after the last genocide caused their Grandpa to nearly die and send a psychic demigod coming after them for 10,000 years, the wolves calmed down a bit.
Couldn't find the new poll in patreon but I'm a new member so I'll catch the next one no biggie. Second point I think we should give the aspect warriors the spotlight they deserve it because they are so cool and fun fact the Eldar warp spider is officially 30 years old this year
Isyander! Most hobby shops will have a resident painter that usually charges the cost of the box (in this case, about $60), that, or there are several services that offer professional paint jobs! Some of them even assemble and base it for you.
@@chrisingersoll2473 i wouldnt be so cocky if i were you. when your primarch met you he was so disappointed he had 10% of you killed off. i know you are going to say iron cage, but how about this, siege of terra.
Finally had a moment to watch this. Loved learning a bit more about the wolves and am well up for a part2 whenever you guys do it. Gonna vote genestealers next just because I was in team genestealers in a lazertag game last year 😂
My favorite meme about the space wolves is that their names in Fenrisian probably mean "Thor the daemon killer", "Gnoll the backbreaker", or "Logan the oathkeeper", but in High Gothic, it's just some variant of Wolfy McWolfson or Moony McMoonface
Dammit Moon Moon!
In the book "prospero burns" the wolves explain that they basically just always take things to the extreme. If they're there to invade, they obliterate. If they're there to protect, they move mountains. It's less about dichotomy and more about doing whatever they were assigned to to an excessive degree at all times
More like, whatever they do, make it a 'Deed worthy of Saga'. Fell the biggest foe, save the most kids, drink the most ale etc. etc. whatever it is, make it a story to remember and you will be honoured in the halls of Russ.
The unifying fact is that they're the broest of bros. A bro will trash your house partying way too hard, but a bro will also call his buddies and spend the whole day helping you move because it's a great workout. Whether for good or bad, Space Wolves have bro energy dialed up to the max.
It hurts how accurate this comment is!!!😂😂😂
I mean salamanders are pretty bro also
@@MoriaGecko1they're more brothers than bros
@@MoriaGecko1 Every true, Salamanders are lawful good big bro energy, happy to ensure their little siblings doing well. Space wolves are the full spectrum xD
bros know how to be humorous and serious in all the wrong situations
Love that Russ' logic is "Only my dad could kick my ass that hard! Gimme a hug, old man!"
Pretty much how wolf packs in the wild work.
"Magnus gets hit with the Backbreaker"
*Magnus: "I PUNCHED ONE OF HIS HEARTS OUT, WHY DOES NOBODY REMEMBER THAT!?"*
Cos he has two hearts, and you got only one spine
he grew it back
I literally can´t imagine Magnus not having the TTS voice.
@@johnoneil9188It’s just so fitting for him.
@@JWP-56indeed. Most of the TTS voices fit. Though now that I think about it, TTS never voiced Guilliman or the Lion
Fenrisian wolf: *growling with murderus intent*
Vulkan: *Jamaican accent* “I would like to pet this creature.”
He wants to boop the snoot
“Me say em can I pet dat dawg” hahahaha well done bro!
He would like to boop the snoot
To be fair, Vulkan might be one of the few who could get away with that.
why and how the hell i can hear that line in my head with a picture of vulkan grinning smile and leman just giving a serious thought whether he want let him pet or not. damn. 🤔🤔
at 6:37 after koda said "yes that tail is real" isyander looked like he just went through all of Vietnam in that one second
Every-time koda says something isyander takes psychic damage
@@daisyjoy242 seems like it
@@daisyjoy242 this is my new favorite headcanon thank you very much
Koda is a bard who only know vicious mockery
Lysander: I summon *Prohibition Hammer*
Russ won the contests on a technicality by making it a contest of speed, rather than endurance. Simply put, he finished all the booze/food before Emps could finish his first round.
And by all food and booze we mean ALL, as in there had nothing left in the house
Wins a win
What I'm hearing is that the Emperor took a page out of Odin's book and disguised himself as a wandering old man before revealing himself, declaring his names and titles, and then proceeds to participate in classic challenges from Norse mythology. When they say "there is only war" they aren't kidding, because the subtlety got replaced with war as well.
The Emperor probably was the inspiration for Odin in the 40k universe
It goes even deeper, because their name for Big E is "Allfather", which is Odins title.
And their afterlife is Karhalla or sth
@@alexandergogolev702the other is that in the tale of ragnarok where the world is destroyed ending the time of the gods before it can start anew Odin the sorceror who sacrificed his own eye for more power is killed by Fenrir. Which is quite similar to Leman Russ fighting Magnus the one eyed sorceror with the Horus Heresy being the ragnarok stand in.
How they did it: Logan Grimnar, Wolf Santa, full force ran in Terminator Armor, the stuff meant to be a bullet sponge (so defense, not speed), cut down both the Inquistor and the Grey Knight, wiped down his ax, and then basically asked "will there be a problem?" in a tone that said "I still have enough energy to kick all your assess"
Not to mention his axe is a Khorne relic weapon
That was their worst mary sue moment in the franchise. That scene only would make sense if Logan were a primarch or a custodian.
Just replace "logar grimmar" with "cato sicarius" and try to imagine how the fandom would have reacted.
Yeah but it’s their chapter master and it still no where near as bad as some of the ultra marines stuff or a character like the blood angle’s edgy grim reaper.
One guy running in terminator for a sprint is more believable.
@@leandrocastello309You do realize Space Wolves are specialized in killing other Astartes right? Their latent resistance to psychic powers make them the perfect counter.
@@leandrocastello309in other words,
Koda: "How did they do it?"
Bad writing, that's how.
GENESTEALERS: "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!" "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!" "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!" "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!" "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!" "I'M IN YOUR WALLS!"
*there are more and they are ready to get out."
“IM IN YOUR FAMILY PICTURES”
“IM IN YOUR MIND”
"day 38 in the chamber, they aint found me yet but when they do they gonna be suprised"
Im eating all there food!
I read this like how Peter griffin said “I HATE YOU BEES I HATE YOU BEES I HARE YOU BEES”
So the whole "wake up in a tundra and make it back to The Fang through all this shit" is basically when you start a new run in Skyrim and going straight for the Battleaxe of Fiery Souls as soon as you can.
You basically wake up buck naked in the sea of ghosts on hardcore mode and have to make it to whiterun while trying not to become a werewolf
Fun fact: the wolves on Fenris are not the size of horses. They are the size of TANKS.
Even more fun fact, those aren't wolves at all. They're some kind of warp entity/warp tainted thing. Magnus divined their evolution path in one of the books and laughed when he realized they weren't "natural"
The wolves are people.
Ah yes, "Our power comes directly from Fenris somehow, our Psykers aren't using the warp what are you talking about?"
There are no wolves on Fenris
Except for the wolves
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 they're humans. Genetic shenanigans from the time when Humanity was the De Facto leading faction in the universe. The Space Wolves ignore it, the Thousand Sons know it, and it's funny.
As a Space Wolves player myself, that fact makes too much sense for the other SW fans to go apeshit about it.
the "your gonna embarrass me in front of the wizards" reference, at least where i heard it from, is avengers infinity war, iron man says it to banner when he cant transform into hulk. the aforementioned wizard is doctor strange
Blood Angels drink too. They are more refined at it, drinking wine with blood in it. Ultramarines drink to be polite to their hosts
Just imagining a fully armored Ultramarine trying to politely describe the delicate flavour of a local liquor is so funny to me; like a massive dude holding a whiskey glass between thumb and index finger, big booming voice, like "subtle notes of cinnamon"
They drink, but they don't get drunk, so does that really count?
@@soffren no such thing as “try” here, the Neuroglottis would let him break down its chemistry so he could unironically tell you things like where it was grown or in what type of vessel it was aged.
@@themilkman993"Dude chill I dont need you telling me the precise measurements and origin of my ingredients"
I like that when space Marines try to talk to people casually they just weird them out even more
So, either there has been some new information on the topic or Isyander simplified the arrival on Prospero a lot. Yes, Horus did contact Leman along the way and told him to kill Magnus and the Sons, but here’s the special thing now: despite Leman being „the executioner“ and hating Magnus, he did not want to Kill his brother.
Before Leman & the Wolves landed on Prospero, Leman wanted to communicate with Magnus one last time because despite his reputation, when it came to critical situations, Leman always had a sound mind of judgement and was extremely reliable. He wanted to talk to Magnus and despite Horus‘ orders, wanted to end the whole conflict peacefully and take Magnus with him to Terra to see the Emperor. But since Magnus refused to answer his calls and rejected any advances for communication, Leman was forced to raise his hand and only then decided to attack Prospero. He didn’t go in foaming out his mouth just waiting to murder his brother and his Legion
Yeah I think isyander has a soft spot for the thousand sons.
There are two wolves inside us all... in our... inner Space you could say. One stands for the pack, is noble and inspiring. The other surfs in on the corpse of a thousand son with a 6 pack and a boom box blasting Immigrant song.
Genestealers lets go.
"Did you say Inner Sphere wolf side?"
-Clan Wolf from Battletech, before crashing a feast at Fenris
Aye, the wolves would like ledzep!
You got through this entire video and never mentioned the wolf pelts they wear -are their own skins- from when they were changing on the walk to the Fang because of the Canis Helix. Its the most Viking-metal-madness thing!
Slight correction. 44:30 Russ did not go out of his way to murder the Thousand Sons at the start. He tried a hail Magnus for his surrender. Even useing one of his legions "spies" to attempt a pshychic message. He did not want to see another brother wiped off the ledger, even one he hated like Magnus. But, when he choose to unleash his sons, there was a no prisoner mentality among his men.
Tbf to both Magnus and Russ at that moment Horus was both A. Fallen to Chaos and B. Intercepted those hails by infiltrating his agents amongst the wolves mortal auxiliary. They were both screwed by Horus's fall in that moment at least.
@@Red13aron Ohh, I was just pointing out Russ did TRY other options. Its just that between Horus' scheming, and Magnus idiocy, he was left with few options.
@VA_Nightshade Additionally, the initial standoff only arose due to Ahriman's outright disobedience of Magnus' orders.
Magnus ordered his Legion to laydown arms and surrender their Primarch (Magnus himself) peacefully, accept any casualties taken in the intial planet fall of the Wolves and not fight back (especially with Psykers) under any circumstances.
Ahriman refused those orders and commanded the Thousand Sons to defend Magnus with everything they had if the Wolves made planet fall.
They (The Thousand Sons) fired opon and killed the loyal messengers sent by the Wolves traitorous human Auxiliaries as the traitorous Astropath's psychic message reached Ahriman misinforming him that the landing craft had a Kill Team aboard sent to Execute Magnus and the Chief Librarian himself.
Russ was told they literally rejected psychic messages and destroyed the messengers landing craft as a show of defiance.
From there Russ unleashed that fury of orbital bombardment as a message for the Thousand Sons to stand down. Which, did not deter Ahriman or the Legion.
It only made them want to fight to defend Magnus even more.
It was pretty much a slaugther from that point on, Russ and the Wolves decended and fought ruthlessly. Many Thousand Sons did die due to hesitation, in firing on the refugees or even at any Space Wolf.
The Wolves never hesitated after that however, they were essentially swayed by the "proof" of the Thousand Sons Herasy and betrayal by that point.
When the Thousan sons started throwing out offensive psychic attacks, that only reinforced their "Proof".
It was ultimately Ahriman's call to defend and use psykers that doomed most of the Thousand Sons that died to their fate that day.
Ahriman was always power hungry bastard that coveted the power that came from all sorts of forbidden knowledge.
He was an easy mark for chaos, Tzeench more specifically.
this is one of those things that has been rewritten a few times. in the old 30k codexes they talk about the fall in a much more murder gung ho manner. when the novel came out for the horus heresy series, that changed a lot, making russ much more willing to come and take him without burning everything to the ground. that same book also alludes very heavily that russ and the wolves are responsible for at least 1 of the 2 missing legions being wiped out, giving a bit more credence to his title as the emperor's executioner.
I hope that comment gets pinned because it's the type of lore that gets meme'd and never corrected so it just spreads without actually being the lore now.
Isyander crying while explaining a Wulfen Dreadnought is relatable. I love 40k so much.
Genestealers then aspect warriors remember the 13th bracket!
Isn’t it now the 13th bracket?
@@IanHall43 No, the 13th bracket will be AFTER the other three losers are revealed.
If I remember correctly, part of the things they did to end The Months of Shame, was they woke up Bjorn the Fell Handed (one of the oldest loyalist space marines, was the personal aid to Leman Russ, and the first Great Wolf after Russ disappeared), who basically told the Inquisition, the Grey Knights and the Wolves "Everyone sit down.....NOW". After telling the survivors of the Inquisitor's group to stop groveling, he told the Inquisition to not come back, then demanded that the Grey Knights (the most secretive and classified space marines) explain exactly who they were and why the Wolves shouldn't kill them now...and everyone listened to him.
The funniest part of Björn waking up to meet the inquisition is he recognizes that a female inquisitor in the retinue is from fenris and when he calls her pretty the grey knight captain wonders if the process to make marines was different back then to be able recognize her attractiveness
@@HyperboreanJihad My man Bjorn can hit on anyone, he tries to flirt with a Sister of Silence in the books. Mind you, that same Sister has a null aura strong enough than no-one else can even look her in they eye and he tries to rizz her up, it's hilarious.
I vote to steal every pair of denim pants, denim socks, denim couches... Let's go Jeanstealers.
i bet even you didn't expect the denim shoes
"NOOOO! NO MY DENIM THONG!!!"
As a 1,000 Sons fan thank you, I know you said you going to be the hype man for the Space Wolves and be extra respectful to them. But thank you for also being somewhat respectful to the 1,000 Sons and Magnus.
Brother!!! May the warp work well for you!!
*fellow dusty boys fan*
ultra marines are better we march for mcragge!!!
@@amosmcneal most boring legion 🥱
Space Wolves are NOT the only space marines to find a way to drink alcohol. If I’m right some blood angels make wine and the Black Legion have a weird moonshine
Are you _sure_ the Blood Angels are making _wine?_
@@LexYeenGiven how they seem to be obsessed with keeping the Red Thirst under control I wouldn't be shocked if they use wine spiked with a touch of blood as some sort of equivalent to nicotine gum.
@@LexYeenvery red wine
@LexYeen I'm pretty sure they talk about making wine in devastation of Baal
Space wolves mjod is not alcohol tho, it's like straight up poison that just so strong it can make space marine dizzy.
They really made my boy Hyperion dirty by just delegating him as “named gray knight”… which he is, but also he had just walked out of a 99 gray knight engagement as one of the 4 survivors, he deserves a video of his own!
Voting for the denim fanatics too, them jeans aren’t stealing themselves.
If there's one thing I dislike about the wolves, it's how GW made them lean so much into the wolf aspect. Give me back my barbarians.
It's kinda funny because some of the Black Liberary authors very blatantly agree with you.
The scene in Wolfsbane where Loken is told not to call the legion "the space wolves", and that members of The Rout view the "wolf wolf wolf" stuff to be something that ignorant off world'ers do, being an easy example off the top of my head
@@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind true, but that is just an in-universe solution. IRL they still are all named Lord Wolfman Longwolf or something like that.
For me is the plot armor and the hypocrisy of the rune priests.
Not only do they have psycker those specific psyckers (and the space wolves in general) are resistant to corruption.
Why? Because fenris has a presence in the warp.
@@no.notfromRDRthe warp is fickle and there’s more than just chaos daemons there. Not all entities are malicious.
@@giantninja9173 pancreasnowork made a video about it.
It explain way better than me.
We need an "Oops All Chaos" vote: Thousand Sons, World Eaters, Death Guard, and Emperor's Children
Or plan it in such a way it makes the losers bracket an actual “Oops, all Chaos” Bracket
Space Wolves utilize power weapons called Frost weapons which are usually made from energized diamonds or Kraken teeth from Fenris.
I am surprised that they completely left out any mention of the Dark Angels. Yes, the Space Wolves and Thousand Sons have a deep hatred for one another, but it’s the Dark Angels that are their biggest rivals.
For instance, after the Lion knocked out Leman with that sucker punch, the two Legions started arguing and bickering on who was the rightful winner of the fight (Wolves say Lion cheated while the Angels said Leman lost after opening his guard up by laughing) and so decided that on a yearly basis, the Angels and Wolves meet up and their choses champions fight each other and the winner of the fight and their Legion get to be „the correct answer“ on the debate on who fairly won the fight and in general show who is the better legion with that W.
I think in the beginning, when they first came up with the idea, the champion of the wolves approached the Lion and demanded to face his champion, only for Lion to say: „it’s me“ and then punched the guy across the room, knocking him out.
I thought Lion disappeared before Russ
@@ЯАга-я4л that i‘m not sure about it, but the fight between Lion and Russ happened long ago, even before the Heresy and the Legions started that competition while both were still around
You forgot the end of the Lion and the Wolf’s brawl - At the end of the Heresy the Lion tried to gut Leman for preventing both of them getting to Terra on time.
Russ responds by taking the sword in the gut, hauling himself up on the blade and hugging the Lion and saying something along the lines of ‘Let this be the end of the bad blood between us’.
@@psychedashell oh i know of that, but as Isyander said, that’s more a Leman story than a Space Wolves story so it’s not that bad for leaving it out
the Genestealers are not coming.. we're in your walls :)
This comment wins
We? Should I be scared? Lmao
all should be unless you join ;)
the months of shame was the space wolves reminding the inquisition and gray nights why they were the emperors chosen executioners. they get shit done on a level most legions wish they could.
4:45 they are space wolves, as in like...dogs, they are both menaces in hunt/fight and man's best friends, like almost all big doggos
I really like how u went deep into prospero. Its option A where we lightly touch a broad range of topics and option B where we get less topics but more detail. I’ll choose B :) great episode!
FOR RUSS AND THE ALL FATHER!
Been a fan for a long time finally got the confidence to comment. I appreciate you guys so much and I would get your patreon if I had the mystical power of disposable income. Please keep doing what you two do!
Abaddon the Despoiler for the 13th bracket.
But yeah, the Wolves are... A strange bunch. The more I learn about them, the more I go "huh. ... I actually kinda like these guys!"
I blame our Space Wolf companion in Rogue Trader.
LETS GOOO SPACE WOLVES! We need Failbaddon
We need him to come out during the 13th bracket - as is completely the only acceptable way.
My grandmother passed away this week and I need a pick me up and NOW I HAVE THE PATRON WOOOOw!! still sad though but you guys help a lot honestly. Thank you two and this great community
1:09:17
I'll never forget the color commentator saying Undertaker has killed Mankind and he loves it, then cutting to Mark Calloway (the person who plays "The Undertaker") face showing actual fear that he actually did possibly kill Mick is such tonal whiplash, i can't help myself from cackling like a mad person
Oh a vote against Abaddon
I really want a thousand sons episode now. Still not a huge fan of the space wolves but have more respect for them now. Great video again keep up the great work
Day 17 of asking for Tyranid splinter fleets (Kronos, Kraken, Tiamat, Gorgon, etc…)
Also I vote for an payday 2 on the genes (Genestealers)
I've been binging other channel's 40k content HEAVILY, but I still quite enjoy this one for how they present all their info. It's very in depth, but also the way Isyander phrases his analyses is superb.
I want an episode about abbadon because he might be the single biggest case of meme lore vs actual lore for a 40k character.
Wow a space wolves video made me like Magnus and thousand sons more
Aspect Warriors is my vote.
I think there are a lot of fan theories out that the Wolves lack of restraint when it came to wiping out the Thousand Sons can be tied to the now missing 2nd and 11th Legions.
Gene stealing, then Abbadon in the 13th bracket
We need an episode on the primarchs home worlds and what they were before and after their respective primarch arrived and “took over” the planet or whatever they did!
Aspect warriors pulling up when you least expect it
This video was amazing like all the rest. Jack is amazing for doing that for y'all but isyander kinda (not really) a back handed gift. I know you can paint it well, and even if you can't it's still a one of a kind. Have a good rest of y'all's day.
"The tail is real" then Isyander's face 😂 also Genestealers for sure
A ROBERT RAFF AUTOGRAPH‽ THATS AWESOME!!!
Im taking a bong rip every time he says wolf, wish me luck
You still alive??
@@Yujifanik ?¡ẄØŁV˧!¿
Yk the channel is great when there’s 133 views and 33 comments after 3 mins. I’ve had zero knowledge of wh40k untill I found this account and now my tism is full clip into the lore. Current favs are the grey knights,salamanders,white scars. Custodies are cool but kinda giga chads to me. Thanks for all great vids and making work way easier by listening to the demonculaba episode.
I am right there with you, my friend. I had some knowledge from weshammer, but he got into storytime so much I had to find more consistent lore videos and found these guys. Think it was around this past December. I am now mostly caught up on patreon and current on UA-cam. I have been a patron for less than 2 weeks. I may have a problem.
"Dude, Stop you're embarrassing me in front of the wizards" is from Infinity War
Lets go with Abadon the Despoiler, the one who wins by losing; there's a lot of retcon going on here, just go with it.
Some would say genestealers perchance. As the few tyranid fans in the world we need it.
Just so you know, the story of the emperor meeting LR is straight ripped out of norse mythos where some giants in disguise challenged Thor, Loki and a regular guy who could run really fast for some reason to a drinking contest, a feast and a foot race. The giants won through using magical trickery, but ya. Straight out of norse mythos.
50:05 I would have been satisfied with only the JoJo pose, but EMPEROR DANG! Bro enterd with the power of God (Capital G!) and anime on his side and dicided to 1 v 1 the raid boss! You can't hipe it up enough!
LEEEETSSSS GOOOOOO SPACE WOLVES!!!!!
Lets go for Genestealers next
You can use Fenrisian ale as a viable substitute for promethium in some chimera variants. The AdMechs recommend against this practice though as nothing will destroy a chimera machine spirit faster than getting it drunk on Fenrisian ale.
"dlc character that hasn't been unlocked yet" i almost died laughing
I actually used to own a Rhodesian ridgeback boxer mix. She got out of the pen once with her son, and the two ran so far that two days later, we got a call a county over saying that they found our dogs.
Fun fact: The 13th company of the Vilka Fenrika we’re all taken in and passed the trials as fully mature adults.
Couldn't help but chuckle every time one of them said "Rough".
"Bark bark, woof woof, awoo." -Coda
This has gotta be the best 40k podcast out there
I'm glad we got a little bit of thousand sons out of this one, I vote thousand sons
This episode is interesting to watch after the Thousands Son episode, cause you see Isyander get a LOT of the context to Magnus and the Thousand Sons in their episode.
Basically two ways to view the Sons, either the Space Wolf way which realllllly simplifies some of their stuff in broad strokes and loses a lot of context, or the Thousand Sons way which involves a lot of "Oh dear...no...oh god..." the more you learn...and if anything makes their fall that much more of a tragedy. Personally, I think the Thousand Sons "could" have been bros with the Wolves but both had a certain changer of ways arranging stuff so they absolutely did not get along ever.
Genestealers next pls
The gene steler cults please. They sound super intersting. Thanks fir your videos guys. Your both awsome
Aspect warriors sound neat
Whether painting or on my commute to work; it's always great to listen to this duo.
As someone with 45 days of siege, I can confirm I am the closest thing to that mythical person, and it’s where I DONT scream curse words and throw things when I die.
I just assume they’re better
So, I have a home made space marine chapter that is descended from the space wolves called the flaming tongues. They are a part of the cursed founding, and were an attempt to remove the wolfen curse from the space wolves and it worked. The problem is the curse of the wolfen got replaced with the curse of the drunkard as in they are all alcoholics. They also have a mutation in their acid spitting gland which lets them spit napalm hot enough to cook a space marine in armor. They also have a two other mutations one in their muscles which makes them stronger the more alcohol they drink, and the other makes them more resistant to the warp which makes them especially effective against chaos, and their librarians can just spam psychic powers without concern. They are a fleet based chapter with their ships being named after various alcoholic beverages like the ISS IPA or its sister ship the ISS Unfiltered IPA, and every ship is equipped the the means to produce an endless stream of alcohol. Their recruitment process is similar to the space wolves where there are multiple steps accept they just hand you a really strong gene seed cocktail, and if your conscious after downing it your drunk behind is strapped to a table for organ implantation if not then they just shoot you out the airlock. They have a bright red color schemes and my home group even came up with unique rules for them like the ultra marines get.
I am a loyal son of Russ. Fight me about it.
He was describing the recruits treck back to The Fang and I've come to the realization...
That my Grandparent's were Space Wolves as they did that both ways to and from school.
BLÅHAJ and we need gene stealer episode
Honey, isander and Koda dropped a new video, stop EVERYTHING *in another room* even the gellar fields? EVEN THE GELLAR FIELDS!!!
Throwing another vote for the Genestealer Cults. Praise be to the Four Armed Emperor!
I repeat that I wish for the genestealers. I wonder if poor scrooge will get another appearance.
while i understand they fit their intended purpose in the story, i f*cking hate the inquisition more than any other faction. i would rather fight orcs with my fists than work FOR the inquisition. in this regard, the writers did a good job with them.
I'm absolutely down for the Aspect Warriors. They really are like the Space Marines of the Eldar. As far as I know (don't quote me on that).
Also; Grimaldus of the Black Templars gets his credit. But a saga being sung/spun for a Space Wolf's deeds and accomplishments probably blows that out of the water, realistically speaking since they're somewhere between what people think Vikings/Ancient Scandinavians were and what they actually were. Like Viking mostly just kinda meant “Traveler”, meaning you could go viking somewhere or somehow that doesn't involve burning down and pillaging other lands and farms for food and riches. They could just be figuring out a trade deal like 30 miles of sea travel away because that's faster than going by horse across land (and there aren't many horses either 😅). These guys really are Frat Bros mixed with like the Renn Fair version of Vikings, in fact like a college dormitory version of the Minnesota Vikings football team and a little bit of the cold calculating precision of the “White Death" sniper soldier in WWI that scared the piss out of the Russians they fought.
Space Wolves baby, lets go!!!!
Amazing episode!
Now, once more I ask for the Aspect Warriors.
But seriously though, given what has been learned regarding the cultures that gave rise to the Vikings, them looking out for those they consider under their protection vs. those they consider their enemies, their wild swings between Guardians and Destroyers honestly makes a tonne of sense. It's just that it's 40K, so everything must turned up to 12.
GENESTEALERS!!!!!! Lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like to think that after the last genocide caused their Grandpa to nearly die and send a psychic demigod coming after them for 10,000 years, the wolves calmed down a bit.
Aspect warriors
Space wolves pt 2 please. I need more
LETS GO SPACE WOLVES
Requesting Magnus episode to ear the other side if that battle
Perfect, something to watch during tomorrows cardio
Couldn't find the new poll in patreon but I'm a new member so I'll catch the next one no biggie. Second point I think we should give the aspect warriors the spotlight they deserve it because they are so cool and fun fact the Eldar warp spider is officially 30 years old this year
Vengence for Prospero! Thousand Sons episode.
Isyander! Most hobby shops will have a resident painter that usually charges the cost of the box (in this case, about $60), that, or there are several services that offer professional paint jobs! Some of them even assemble and base it for you.
Man a thousand sons episode would be great......
The sheer vitriol with which you seethed at the mere mention of your buddy and his traitorous antics, it was felt here, my brother.
EMPEROR'S CHILDREN WAS THE BEST LEGION before THE FALL!!!!
ARGH yes WE ARE!!
2nd best but, I still love them.
@@helljumper1590I would say the best because, they had humanity, skill, and almost perfect at everything.
We all know, you don't have to say it!!!! WE ARE THE BEST.
No
- Rogal "retreating is cringe" Dorn
It is suggested that Russ was created to be a Primarch Killer and that doesnt get discussed enough.
Let's go Genestealers! We gotta get some Genestealers
Honestly for how cool Space Wolfs are this video just got me interested on watching a Thousand Sons or Magnus video.
The Imperial Fists are fortifying this comment
*laughs in iron*
From Lukas the eldest blood claw
Hey! Hey FIST! We’re calling you out fist!! We’re here to lay waste to your pitiful defenses!
@@chrisingersoll2473 i wouldnt be so cocky if i were you. when your primarch met you he was so disappointed he had 10% of you killed off. i know you are going to say iron cage, but how about this, siege of terra.
Read second comment....lukas the trickster the jackalwolf or the eldest bloodclaw only space marine with kids lmao
Finally had a moment to watch this. Loved learning a bit more about the wolves and am well up for a part2 whenever you guys do it. Gonna vote genestealers next just because I was in team genestealers in a lazertag game last year 😂