Oh heck!!!! Another favourite faction of mine!!! I blame Tolkien, after reading LOTR at 16 some 41 years ago, I was given some metal figures by an uncle. A tin full of orcs, elves, treemen and dwarves. So, when I discovered GW in 1983, that's what I started collecting and building. So so far, I want to get Dwarves, Wood Elves and Orcs, with Empire thrown in the mix.👍👍
Has anyone else noticed we have very few ways to get a S4 attack? Against T4 enemies we will be wounding on 5+ - Which is really going to hurt. Longbows lost the S4 at half range, Dryands are S3 instead of S4, Treekin lost a Strength, and a treeman is only S5? T4 armies such as dwarves are going to be difficult to chew through.
This is my concern as well, it seems like they want you to hang back and shoot to win....not fun to play and not fun to play against. The S5 Treeman is really bothering me. Dwarfs will be a nightmare at T4 and lots of armor...
I ran a Sethayla style list in 7th but was forced to add more shooting and magic in 8th. Im hoping I can still use it to run and gun in this edition. Biggest change is needing waystalkers to get waywatchers. That's an annoying tax, esp as only one of those units can ambush now. Being able to also bring eagles, despite their points increase, is good news.
Since armor bane only gets activated on a 6 to wound if WE take hagbane tips and hits on 6 which auto wound they automatically don't get armor bane on those hits. That's a bit bad
no ap on the longbows is a big disappointment... the premier skirmish shooting army should have had ap1 with maybe no armorbane... and having regular volley fire so half of your second rank cant even shoot is just annoying magic arrows also got nerfed a bit too... especially the trueflight arrows that no longer negate the moving and shooting penalty no acorn of ages so you are limited to the terrain layout and only get 1 free woods... the spell is ok but can get dispelled on the positive side flammable is a lot less impactful so the trees might have a good niche and on the very positive side sisters of the thorn are possibly the single greatest utility unit in the game... what an amazing combination of rules
Yea it all seems a bit weird. Wood elves now got worse bows than high elves and they can't move through woods any quicker than anyone else so some wood elf units want to actually avoid woods now wth. Also they arn't any better at shooting anymore either, long range penalty and movie and fire penalty apply. It's lame that all their skill and uniqueness regarding shooting now comes through some arrow making skills and comes with a cost.
@cmxpiipl Waywatchers are pricey, then are taxed with a character per unit and if you want arrows you pay even more. On top of that only one can ambush?
Do tree spirit ward safe work vs magic attacks? (back in the days it didn´t work) And is there still the magic item to hop to a forest with a unit? Or any magic items for woodelves?
They now got regeneration instead of the ward save they had so yea works against magical attacks but now not against flaming attacks. But flammable rule no longer takes multiwounds but simply cancels out regen saves so fire got less scary for the bigger tree fellas.
Do you usually play with people who list tailor? Some of your comments made it seem like you expect people to try to metagame your wood elves in the list building stage. My LGS is pretty good about people bringing all comer lists and finding an opponent after that
Honestly wood elves don't move through woods any faster anymore?!? That's just lame, why now would they abandon armor if it doesn't give them any advantage mobilitywise or initiative wise what so ever?
Last one for today! Have a good one guys cya tomorrow :)
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Loving these videos thanks! I'm just a collector and painter but love the lore, are these books worth the money? Is there lots of lore 2 read in them?
Get a 3D printer and make your own.
I really hope we get a Forest Dragon kit that looks exactly like the Warhammer Total War unit. Also Warhawk Riders would be nice too.
I know it's asking a lot but a new Sisters of Twilight model would be the perfect cherry on top.
I’m hoping for the same thing!
Awesome! The Welves are one of my favourite factions in Total Warhammer and a very mobile glass cannon sounds like my kind of tabletop army!
Really hoping for plastic wardancers when this faction gets it's release.
Oh heck!!!! Another favourite faction of mine!!! I blame Tolkien, after reading LOTR at 16 some 41 years ago, I was given some metal figures by an uncle. A tin full of orcs, elves, treemen and dwarves. So, when I discovered GW in 1983, that's what I started collecting and building. So so far, I want to get Dwarves, Wood Elves and Orcs, with Empire thrown in the mix.👍👍
Thank you nathan! I have been recovering from a fail back surgery your regular uploads have kept me busy again thanks so much!
Hope you aren't in too much pain! :(
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges Its not too bad but i cant do much so i have been working on my goblin armies
My precious wood elves are gonna be great to play again.
"I can imagine some wood elf players are laughing maniacly in the background"
Me, who was laughing maniacly in the background when hearing this: Yes.
Has anyone else noticed we have very few ways to get a S4 attack? Against T4 enemies we will be wounding on 5+ - Which is really going to hurt.
Longbows lost the S4 at half range, Dryands are S3 instead of S4, Treekin lost a Strength, and a treeman is only S5?
T4 armies such as dwarves are going to be difficult to chew through.
Poison arrows.
This is my concern as well, it seems like they want you to hang back and shoot to win....not fun to play and not fun to play against. The S5 Treeman is really bothering me. Dwarfs will be a nightmare at T4 and lots of armor...
I really hope that Laurelorn gets an army of Infamy as they are different to Athel Loren having more High Elf elements.
AP - means no AP, not the AP you already have
Yeah! My first and most loved (and used) army in WF. Can't wait to see new models and stuff
I had a bushviper-decoration, with the dryad arms that look like antlers and a gladecaptain on its head as a forest dragon.
It worked extremely well
Putting in the work
Bring on high elves
wood elves are so underrated
Amazing, thank you for the upload! Fair to say you've earned some rest. 😅😅
Lord on Dragon. Great weapon, Mischiefs, Netlings, Talisman of Protection, Bedazzling helm: 549pts, -2 to hit on melee on a challenge, 4+ 5++
I ran a Sethayla style list in 7th but was forced to add more shooting and magic in 8th. Im hoping I can still use it to run and gun in this edition. Biggest change is needing waystalkers to get waywatchers. That's an annoying tax, esp as only one of those units can ambush now. Being able to also bring eagles, despite their points increase, is good news.
Since armor bane only gets activated on a 6 to wound if WE take hagbane tips and hits on 6 which auto wound they automatically don't get armor bane on those hits. That's a bit bad
Will you be releasing points for each unit eventually before release?
Really hope they don't retcon Eonir lore, would be fun to make a list of them.
Kinda wish they went with shield of thorns, but still very cool!
1:30 do i not see Forest dragon? i saw in other rewius that is in Forces of order/fantasy/good book ? is it missing hre? or on rere?
right in early to check out my hunting hippies!
no ap on the longbows is a big disappointment... the premier skirmish shooting army should have had ap1 with maybe no armorbane... and having regular volley fire so half of your second rank cant even shoot is just annoying
magic arrows also got nerfed a bit too... especially the trueflight arrows that no longer negate the moving and shooting penalty
no acorn of ages so you are limited to the terrain layout and only get 1 free woods... the spell is ok but can get dispelled
on the positive side flammable is a lot less impactful so the trees might have a good niche
and on the very positive side sisters of the thorn are possibly the single greatest utility unit in the game... what an amazing combination of rules
Yea it all seems a bit weird. Wood elves now got worse bows than high elves and they can't move through woods any quicker than anyone else so some wood elf units want to actually avoid woods now wth. Also they arn't any better at shooting anymore either, long range penalty and movie and fire penalty apply. It's lame that all their skill and uniqueness regarding shooting now comes through some arrow making skills and comes with a cost.
@cmxpiipl Waywatchers are pricey, then are taxed with a character per unit and if you want arrows you pay even more. On top of that only one can ambush?
Do tree spirit ward safe work vs magic attacks? (back in the days it didn´t work)
And is there still the magic item to hop to a forest with a unit?
Or any magic items for woodelves?
They now got regeneration instead of the ward save they had so yea works against magical attacks but now not against flaming attacks. But flammable rule no longer takes multiwounds but simply cancels out regen saves so fire got less scary for the bigger tree fellas.
So you can only have a glade lord or spellweaver?
Only 1d6 added for a charge pleases me greatly because, in theory, that means more shots.
Others have said it. But please please a new sisters of twilight model! I want it so bad!!!
Why do you say front rank of 8 will be coming for shooting units?
Because its a great way to maximise shooting from what I've been able to experience. You could go higher but 8 seems like a fair rank :)
Engineers aren't necessarily gone. They were there in the first movie.....sort of. Maybe we'll actually get them treated properly
Too bad we can't set the damn tree on fire or nuke it like in TWWH3. But it would make a fun project for terrain...
Try to say "tree whack attack" quickly 3 times in a row
i wait for Eoinrs elfs ...
so for almanch and wood elf starter pack;
Do you usually play with people who list tailor? Some of your comments made it seem like you expect people to try to metagame your wood elves in the list building stage. My LGS is pretty good about people bringing all comer lists and finding an opponent after that
Why they didn't use the warhammer total war roster?
They worked on it, it could give a couple of units more and is great cross promotion.. 😢
WOOOOO
Hehehehehe hey Beavis, wood 12 inches long hehehehe
7:25 yes ;] mua hahahahaha
Why there is no new units?
GW had like 4 years to work on this game. What were they doing ?
They’ll get new units when they get their own Arcane journal launch
Honestly wood elves don't move through woods any faster anymore?!? That's just lame, why now would they abandon armor if it doesn't give them any advantage mobilitywise or initiative wise what so ever?
Why not just give us the full lores of magic