NEW USS Typhoon - Starfleet's Battleship VS 2 Defiants - Star Trek Starship Battles

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
  • #startrek #starships
    In this video we check out the USS Typhoon.
    This is designated as a heavy battleship. It has been balanced by the author to work with the existing stock Remastered starships.
    How will it fare against 2 Defiants?
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  • @helioskosmos31
    @helioskosmos31 9 місяців тому +29

    Well for a "Battleship" I think it's too weak, especially because the problems it had against stock ships.

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 9 місяців тому +5

      Also it lacks a Lance phaser or similar spinal siege weapon mount that most of the other battleships seem to have. This thing would probably get whiped by a Galaxy X/Dominion BB for that reason alone. It's a big slow target perfect for those huge fixed guns. Ditto the Neigh'var

    • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
      @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 9 місяців тому +2

      Looks and fights more like a "Pocket Battleship."

    • @mrichar9
      @mrichar9 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah
      Given the appearance, it should have been more powerful. Like twin quantum front and rear. What year did this ship exist??

  • @richhead1999
    @richhead1999 9 місяців тому +5

    It seems like it needs better shield generators. Battleships should be the best punching bags that can dish it out as well.

  • @deepdivedylan
    @deepdivedylan 9 місяців тому +4

    Such memories! This ship was in Star Trek Online when it debuted but was discontinued several years ago.

    • @RetroBadgerGaming
      @RetroBadgerGaming  8 місяців тому +1

      Cool! I never saw it. I'm assuming Quark bought the rights to it. He owns half of Starfleet now..

  • @davidprinzing8059
    @davidprinzing8059 9 місяців тому +2

    The balance is interesting. I think what's most interesting is how much the Typhoon struggled to engage at medium-long range against the AI when the AI was keeping distance at medium-long range. The Defiant isn't a medium-long range ship, it's a fast attack ship with a close range dominance (which is how you played it). I think the reason that tactic worked is because the pulse phasors have low accuracy at distance but the Typhoon has such a slow speed that it'll still get hit regardless and struggles to hit fast moving targets with torpedoes. I guess if I could narrow down 4 aspects that I think are missing with a "battleship" like this it would be, 1) lack of sufficient armor for the class size 2) lack of phasor power 3) a terribly large weapons arc blind spot on the dorsal side 4) a low quantity photon/quantum volly with a long recharge time. I would have pointed out that the shields seem low power but I'm not sure if it's too low on power or if it just lacked sufficient armor and was getting hit constantly by those pulse phasors without a good ability to dodge.
    Frankly, the Defiant class was designed to win against targets exactly like this.

  • @mdmyer
    @mdmyer 9 місяців тому +5

    Any of these ships have torpedo launchers on the sides? I think that would be beneficial..

    • @unknown9126
      @unknown9126 9 місяців тому +1

      The Akira has a pair of torpedo launchers on the left and right side of the saucer, but doesn't ever use them on screen.

    • @MSR-1701
      @MSR-1701 9 місяців тому

      In BC (KM and RE), there are several ships that have side projectile launchers, including some Akira mods, some Excalibur mods, some SFC alien ships, and one or two others that aren't coming to mind. 😅

  • @stevelapierre4776
    @stevelapierre4776 9 місяців тому +2

    🤔At first glance, very nice ship, but the shields are weak for a Battleship.. but the rest is quite good.. Imagine the ship was from the game years ago and looks like from the future almost.. hmmm .. For the size of the ship , I noticed very small impulse drives.. hmm.. still great battle Captain.. Also, well done.. no cloaking mishaps.. lol..sorry just saying..!!!😊🖖

  • @bradarthur3603
    @bradarthur3603 9 місяців тому +3

    Great video as usual!! hadn't come across that ship in STO before. It clearly needs some armor and better shields in Bridge Commander.

    • @housecoatgaming
      @housecoatgaming 9 місяців тому +1

      There's a damn good reason for it not showing up.
      It was removed when the Command Battlecruisers were introduced back in 2014.
      And good riddance, too.

    • @VampyreDante
      @VampyreDante 9 місяців тому

      Agreed, it wasn't particularly threatening or interesting to kill.

  • @stephendarroch5565
    @stephendarroch5565 9 місяців тому +2

    I think that if you were to have a battle ship for starfleet it needs to have port and starboard torpedo launchers like the akira. It also needs better sensors, think you missed with half your quantum torpedoes with each barrage

  • @tizmond
    @tizmond 9 місяців тому +3

    I think it plays well against the vanilla ships and it's a bit more balanced, compared to a lot of the popular op modded ships. The weapons hit hard, but not ridiculously hard. But, I think if they're going to keep it as slow and clunky as it is, it could do with a slight shield upgrade.

    • @jamesbarrow904
      @jamesbarrow904 9 місяців тому

      And/or heavy ablative armor. Could use a broadside pulse phaser array for heavy bombardment as well as long as it not turned into a godship like the Galaxy X from Hell

  • @ringo1029384756
    @ringo1029384756 9 місяців тому +8

    I don't think it's such a good ship. I guess Starfleet learned nothing from the Dominion war in that smaller, more heavily armed ships like the Defiant are much better than large battleships. The shielding on the Typhoon didn't seem that great and a torpedo volley of only four projectiles??? That's some 23rd century capability...

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 9 місяців тому

      It's not balanced and the Torpedoes are too few and very innacurate. Not at all like the Dominion BB Scimitar etc.

    • @ryuukeisscifiproductions1818
      @ryuukeisscifiproductions1818 5 місяців тому

      just because the in game mod ships are badly balanced with each other does not mean battleships in trek are inherently a bad idea. If this thing was balanced appropriately it turn Defiants into cannon fodder.
      Defiant only has as much success in the show as it does due to plot armor.

  • @alanbaker2347
    @alanbaker2347 5 місяців тому

    WOW that was totally AMAZING I like the USS Typhoon it's a really cool looking Battleship

  • @TrentonBennett
    @TrentonBennett 9 місяців тому +1

    It's a rather interesting ship with interesting designs for the nacelles. No surprise two Defiant's were able to take it down.

  • @nathancrocker1
    @nathancrocker1 9 місяців тому +1

    This thing is a glass cannon and a wimpy cannon at that! It's a "battleship" with weaker shielding and weapons than the Sovereign. It fires the same quantum spread as the stock Sov but without the photons!
    This thing just LOOKS tough (I guess because it has 4 nacelles 🙄).
    That being said, the bones are there. Increase the phaser power, strengthen the shields, and most importantly, double the torp count on each hardpoint so it can fire a spread of 8 from both the front and rear, and then you've got something!

  • @dahlesa
    @dahlesa 9 місяців тому +3

    Weapons were good but shielding on Typhoon needs upgrade.

  • @Anagh1701
    @Anagh1701 9 місяців тому +1

    Its the old typhoon!

  • @Bu2Spike
    @Bu2Spike 9 місяців тому +1

    I just don't understand why they do not put the armor technology like what is on the defiant or the Enterprise E on that ship or other larger federation battleships and be able to have the power systems to have shields to cover the entire ship. That ship started to go down in the second battle when you were in the defiant and I believe you could of defeated it by yourself without help from the other one. Now if that ship had the same armor technology and power systems that's on the Enterprise E that battle would of gone on a lot longer and would be 10x harder for you to win I believe.

  • @JeanLucCaptain
    @JeanLucCaptain 9 місяців тому +1

    Okay amazing ship bout time someone did a USS Arizona style battleship. FEW problems: One Where are it's fighters/runabouts? I'm assuming it would have a pretty big attack group onboard as the Battleships in star trek tend to be as much carriers as Battleships. 2: WHY are the Quantum Torpedoes so damn innacurate? Should not be missing with entire or most of a volley especially at the shorter ranges. Targeting might be bugged. 3: USS Defiant is designed to fight BORG CUBES and is not a typical example of the Small Attack ships everybody else made liberal use of. It's much heavier armored and weapons made it more like a heavy tank for break through operations then a "small light nimble" attack ship.
    Edit: One more thing it needs a lance phaser or similar big gun OR a massive torpedo volley. because that seems to be the other basic "qualification" for battleships in ST they almost all have some BIG SIEGE GUN like the Galaxy X.

    • @MSR-1701
      @MSR-1701 9 місяців тому +1

      Sadly, at present BC RE does not have a "carrier" script capacity to launch extra support craft.
      The modder who released this mod did note they had a KM version in the works, so we shall see.😂

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 8 місяців тому

      @@MSR-1701 THIS is the Starfleet battleship i want to see in Bridge Commander: ua-cam.com/video/PZsSd7hdYFg/v-deo.htmlsi=5AeXy3TZXcua-Uai

  • @DunestrikeMorgan
    @DunestrikeMorgan 9 місяців тому +1

    Definetly looks better than it used to in Sto

  • @XHunter442
    @XHunter442 9 місяців тому

    i say the captain makes or breaks the battle winner! Ty for the video and LLAP!

  • @XHunter442
    @XHunter442 9 місяців тому +1

    USS Typhon was also in star trek invasion but a different class of ship - the carrier!

    • @XHunter442
      @XHunter442 9 місяців тому

      idk whenever someone says equipped with Quantum torpedo im like and... what's new they got them in the 32nd century in star trek discovery season 3 and beyond lol

    • @XHunter442
      @XHunter442 9 місяців тому

      Pattern Kirk Epsilon get the shields back up!

    • @unknown9126
      @unknown9126 9 місяців тому +2

      That was the carrier USS Typhon, not the battleship USS Typhoon.

    • @XHunter442
      @XHunter442 9 місяців тому

      i know that lol pointing out the use of the name.@@unknown9126

  • @jamesbarrow904
    @jamesbarrow904 9 місяців тому

    Not too bad. Personally i would have slapped some heavy phaser cannons turrets on it. Pretty like a 24th century version of the 16inch 50 caliber guns on an Iowa Class Battleship.

  • @MSR-1701
    @MSR-1701 9 місяців тому

    Nice Showcase!😅
    Good to see a BC RE v1.2 balanced mod!😎 Hoping more of those to come😂

  • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
    @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 9 місяців тому

    I feel like this is more of a 'Pocket Battleship,' or 'Large Cruiser (as in the actual naval class).' It is more for fleet support, raiding, bullying cruisers but I don't think it can go up against enemy battleships.

  • @chrisd.4676
    @chrisd.4676 Місяць тому

    Whoever designed this, loved Voyager. The USS Typhoon is obviously a fat Voyager w/Prometheus inspired nacelles.

  • @MisterMarin
    @MisterMarin 9 місяців тому +1

    The reason why your quantum torpedoes were missing so much is because Data and the Borg Queen had secretly stowed aboard your ship to make out and to play their favorite 'target locked, but not really' game. It's a waste of perfectly good torpedoes, though. 😜

  • @JohnBachofer
    @JohnBachofer 9 місяців тому

    Ahhh the infamous STO NPC starship.

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man 8 місяців тому

    The typhoon refit needs to incorporate excelsior’s 2 array hard points and power plant it’s just inadequate for a battle ship

  • @johnmogavero8156
    @johnmogavero8156 9 місяців тому

    I love this ship !!!!!

  • @DojhromTRW
    @DojhromTRW 9 місяців тому

    For a whale it was pretty thin skinned and under armed, thus more weapons, multi targeting, blind spots shouldn't exist. The heavy weapons should stand as is, for taking down other large ships and outposts. Add another layer with some weaker torpedoes and phasers for small ships and shuttles.

  • @user-mq4sb8qj7r
    @user-mq4sb8qj7r 9 місяців тому

    I put the Typhoon up against a Romulan Warbird. It was no match for the Romulans.

  • @BLACKHEARTo6
    @BLACKHEARTo6 3 місяці тому

    Nice weapons just couldn't move fast enough

  • @paulo9991
    @paulo9991 7 місяців тому

    I still wish to this day they would let the players use this ship in Star Trek Online.

  • @heartoffire5902
    @heartoffire5902 2 місяці тому

    Beautiful ship made of tissue paper.

  • @treyoplol4012
    @treyoplol4012 9 місяців тому +2

    What ever happened to the auto installer you made?

  • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
    @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 9 місяців тому

    Yes, but can the Damar Class bully the Typhoon? Or two Defiants? I know the Bakrus Class can. The Bakrus is known as the "Defiant Killer," after all.

  • @CC-mp1wk
    @CC-mp1wk 8 місяців тому

    Would it be possible to mod the Defiant so that it only fires pulse phasers when it has a certain amount of charge. It looks so ridiculous when it’s firing one pulse every 2 or 3 seconds.

  • @ace1gl
    @ace1gl 8 місяців тому

    That thing seemed way under gunned and shielded for a battle ship.

  • @DunestrikeMorgan
    @DunestrikeMorgan 9 місяців тому

    try it against its origin, the intrepid class

  • @dannyhartwig7595
    @dannyhartwig7595 3 місяці тому

    wasnt the typhoon not a carrier for peregrine fighters? from star trek invasion?

    • @RetroBadgerGaming
      @RetroBadgerGaming  3 місяці тому

      It was the Typhon rather than Typhoon. I do wonder if this ship took inspiration from it though 🖖

    • @dannyhartwig7595
      @dannyhartwig7595 3 місяці тому

      @@RetroBadgerGaming oh typo ^^ sorry. the Old Typhon was rather a mobile outpost for first response and fighter support in mind.

  • @stangundam01
    @stangundam01 8 місяців тому

    it's a npc ship, would be nice if it were playable

  • @lohrtom
    @lohrtom 9 місяців тому +1

    Battleship? More like paper tiger.

  • @walruspolish
    @walruspolish 9 місяців тому

    Does the Defiant have ablative armour in the game?

    • @RetroBadgerGaming
      @RetroBadgerGaming  8 місяців тому +1

      There is one version of the Defiant that has it in game. However those versions don't.

  • @brentcowell5776
    @brentcowell5776 4 місяці тому

    the shields should be better than that on such a big so called powerful ship!!!!

  • @taw1967
    @taw1967 4 місяці тому

    For a “battleship,” it seems kind of nerfed.

  • @arm514ve5
    @arm514ve5 9 місяців тому

    I feel the balancing is off its a battleship yes its not really meant to fight two smaller craft but it still should shred a defiant especially with full fore arrays and the shields were a joke needs some more tweakin. IMO

  • @reubenmorris487
    @reubenmorris487 9 місяців тому

    Put this ship against the Excalibur.

  • @Ronald006
    @Ronald006 9 місяців тому

    That is not a Battleship for its systems to be so weak and its shields are a true disappointment, the ship should be sent right back to the star base for a complete systems overhaul while the Defiant's are good ships they'd never be able to get past a real battleship. The larger starships can soak up way more damage and have way more power. All in all it was a bearable fight tho. 5/10

  • @hardline2a
    @hardline2a 9 місяців тому

    Put it against the damar

  • @warwolf88
    @warwolf88 9 місяців тому

    the typhoon seems to have weak shields

  • @rabmelvin1701
    @rabmelvin1701 9 місяців тому

    Seems to be far to weak for a battle ship if you put it up against any of the games true battle ships it would get smashed needs a big improvement to shields and armour and maybe a bit more powerful phasers, I think the Excalibur is a better Starfleet battle ship

  • @RokkitGrrl
    @RokkitGrrl 8 місяців тому

    I remember seeing this in Star Trek Online and I was never a fan of its nacelle style.

  • @fabidarren2741
    @fabidarren2741 9 місяців тому

    I dont consider that as a battle ship

  • @daveaglasgow
    @daveaglasgow 8 місяців тому

    Seems like the ai is still pretty bad in this. Half the time they aren't even firing.

  • @khanmandalor7227
    @khanmandalor7227 9 місяців тому

    Klingon academy Yamato and Missouri class BS.

  • @pyrolight7568
    @pyrolight7568 9 місяців тому

    Pretty sure you could have soloed it. That thing sucked.

  • @s0nnyburnett
    @s0nnyburnett 2 місяці тому

    Pretty underwhelming, especially for its class.

  • @Digikidthevoiceofreason
    @Digikidthevoiceofreason 9 місяців тому +1

    🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

  • @sammy-gd7hw
    @sammy-gd7hw 7 днів тому

    Lol not impressive for a battleship.

  • @mathewoliveira9028
    @mathewoliveira9028 2 місяці тому

    weak battlwship

  • @BHarmon_1776
    @BHarmon_1776 9 місяців тому

    Weak ship,,, try better next time...