MAX REACTS: What Happened!? Street Fighter III
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I remember a long time ago seeing a video on the Two Best Friends channel that mentioned Maximilian Dood, I checked it out and subscribed ever since. I loved Friday Night Fisticuffs and I love watching Max play fighting games. No lie, I probably would not play fighting games outside of Mortal Kombat if it wasn’t for the two of you. Both of y’all really changed the way I play video games! I know it may be weird to say thank you for something like that but seriously, y’all opened up my gaming pallet so much just by talking about and playing games you love. So thank you Max and Matt!!!!!
the reason why max and the zaibatsu were a success when it came content about fighting games is that their focus is on "fighting games can be fun!" while the rest of the FGC were "how to be good or what is top tier".
max and the zaibatsu brought a new generation towards fighting games thanks to their comedic and nostalgic content.
Agreed lol I was a mk/smash bros only guy now I dabble in blazblue guilty gear ki kof lol never woulda without this channel 😅
Dood same
Yes
lemme guess...you discovered the fgc with those guys 😊
According to the Street Fighter Wiki, if SF3 had gotten a fourth installment, they would've added Zangief and Sagat. A shame that never happened, I would've loved to see how Zangief and Sagat would've looked with SF3 animations.
There's always the fanmade sprites. Seriously, I'd love to see Dan Hibiki done in the style of SF3!
@@AndersonTenecela The backgrounds in 3rd Strike were a clear step back NG and 2i. I was wondering if space was a reason, now I know.
This reminds me when Capcom showed they were working on sprites for SF1 Sagat (no scar across his chest) and Retsu as well as reusing Eagle from CvS2 for Capcom Fighting Jam
I wonder what Zangief would use for Supers aside from Final Atomic Buster. Maybe the Iron Body powerup and Super Lariat Upper from the Vs Games?
@@BroomPusher2024 I think you are onto something. My guess is, FAB, Aerial Russian Slam from SFA3, and Iron Body (your suggestion).
Super Art I: Final Atomic Buster
Super Art II: Aerial Russian Slam
Super Art III: Iron Body
Wha Happun is a quality, bingeable series, would recommend
I tend to play them in the background some times, same with Civvie, they are that bingable and rewatchable.
True
Wha Happun is great. Its cool to see why some game struggle or fail.
Strongly agree. It's an outstanding series.
@@mestre12 And it's not just bad games either. All it needs is a wonky dev cycle for Matt to cover it even if the game was a financial and critical success
23:23
Max: "CvS2 is the last one."
Capcom Fighting Evolution/Jam: "I exist!"
Max: "Last REAL one..."
Lol!
i felt this in my soul
SVC Chaos: "Am I real enough?" :-)
Max: "STFU!!!" >:-(
SVC Chaos: [Cries in a corner] X'-(
@@KenMasters. SVC Chaos was made by (SNK) Playmore, though, so it doesn't really count in regards to Capcom's legacy of 2D fighters.
Ah yes, the MUGEN game with a price tag.
The main 3 reasons I love SF3
- Daddy Gill
- The Urban Theme
- The Music
P.s My Boy Alex
16:48 I never understood the notion of SF3 being “full of freaks”. Oro’s design looks not much different than Dhalsim, and is Necro any more inhuman and monstrous than Blanka? Every other character featured on screen fits in a fighting game (ninja, boxer, wrestler, Kung-Fu fighter, and three shotos…typical Street Fighter roster). Gill’s look is solely meant to show off how CPS-3 could handle an asymmetrical design, unlike Sagat and Vega in SF2 (but pay no attention to Oro’s tied arm switching sides).
It’s just moreso how comparatively to sf2 and maybe alpha, the designs were much wilder and more experimental, whether people liked it or not.
I remember that being a common complaint myself, and I always used to call people out on it. How were Alex, Ibuki and Dudley freaks? Only an idiot would think that.
It's proportion issue. When the game has 10 characters, 2 is 20%.
@@coldh8terade737 Only an idiot does think that.
@@HellecticMojo right, but Street Fighter 2 had 8 selectables at the very beginning, meaning 25% of the characters looked weird.
Street Fighter III almost felt like a Darkstalkers game at one point.
Darkstalkers looked so gorgeous on CPS-2, I can only imagine how mind-blowing Darkstalkers would have been if released on CPS-3.
@@SAPProd CPS3 jojo is basically a spiritual sequel to darkstalkers, stands are akin to the Dark Force, and both also have the 9 lv super gauge..
Iirc
@@tedjomuljono3052 that’s true, and Bengus’s Darkstalkers designs definitely looked right at home next to Araki’s designs.
2nd Impact
That is because it kinda does look like Darkstalkers. Really, I thought Alpha had DS’s graphics.
The problem is the fans are afraid of new. Thats why we get less & less new fighters. I like that 4 brought back the additional 4 new characters like SSF2. No matter how much you hate SF5, you cant deny s2 DLC was a great role out for the new characters. Though most werent necesarily "new" they did open the door for growth. & aside from necalli, all new characters made an impact game & story wise.
I would say that Garou mark of wolves was an exception for some reason as most of the character were well liked such as Rock, Tizoc, Hotaru, Gato and B.Jenet. unlike in SF3 that they character only were well loved due to EVO and mostly as fighters than characters.
Both Capcom and the SF community's biggest fear is change. For the community, it's fear of another massive failure, one that could cause one of their biggest franchises to go dark. For Capcom, it's wanting to recapture that magic and success of SF2. A lot of people are split on this: a lot of people want the series to move on. "We want more new characters, we want a game set after SFIII, etc etc". The rest want more of the same: "we want to stay where we are, we want to see old faces again, etc etc."
I totally understand the scenario, and everyone has a point. But look at just SFV: look at all the brand new characters (Rashid, Falke, Menat, etc-especially Luke, the next Alex). They're all cool, even the less popular ones like Abigail or Ed. Alongside them we have our old favorites: not just the big 3 (Ryu, Ken, and Chun-Li) but also Alex, Balrog, Ibuki, Juri, etc. It's possible to have both new and old, and make everyone happy. It's difficult, but possible.
@@nebiyuesayas5600 All Fighting Game communities and companies are afraid of change. For example, KoF 15 has only 2 new characters in its base roster of 39.
To have the right balance, SF6 should have a base roster of 30 characters: 23 veterans and 7 newcomers, and 11 out of the 23 veterans should be ones that didn't make to SF5, like Makoto, Fei Long, etc.
Also, the story of SF6 should take place at least 2 years after 3rd Strike with a brand new main antagonist that has nothing to do with Shadowloo, S.I.N., the Illuminati nor the Evil Hadou (G would make a great main villain).
@@anubisean Half of the new cast of SF3 are extremely popular as characters since the early-2000s, especially Sean, Oro, Dudley, Urien, the Lee brothers and the females. That's why they appear in a lot of spinoff media outside of the games themselves. And none of the new characters had anything to do with Evo Moment 37.
@@lukejones7164 Of course it's not about that moment but the game as a whole what i mean is that due to EVO itself that made 3rdS popular and not moment 37. To add anything Tekken 3 is also another example of the next generation curse dodged due to Tekken being niche back then but was affected by Tekken 7.
SFIII is honestly why indie devs are super creative tbh. We need more wild devs for stuff
The 90s era was so interesting and will always be near and dear to my heart especially around the time Tekken 3 was out.
I saw one of those SFIII machines without Ken and Ryu in Valparaíso, Chile in the mid-90s. I thought it was a bootleg game trying to cash in on SFII’s popularity. After seeing the final release with Ken and Ryu, for years I thought I was crazy. Only a few years ago I found out on UA-cam that there was an early version without the characters that was tested in some places.
Would LOVE to hear more about that. Did you or your friends get to play that version at all?
I didn't play the game then and I don't know anyone who did in those days. I’m afraid I don’t have much else to say, really. I remember SFIII not being succesful at the time it came out in the arcades, and nobody I knew talked about the game back then.
Bro... te acuerdas en que Arcade o en que local para ese tiempo estaba la maquina? Hoy en dia ya es bastante dificil encontrar locales de Arcade por la quinta region.
@@chanapkis45 Era uno en avenida Pedro Montt. No recuerdo el nombre, creo que era "Sama", "Samoa" o algo parecido. No sé si existirá todavía. En todo caso, recuerdo que después de un tiempo ya no tenían esa versión del juego.
I honestly don’t remember ever seeing a Street Fighter 3 arcade machine and at the time my family was living right in the heart of Dallas. I didn’t see a new Street Fighter machine until Third Strike and by then I moved to console so it was all Marvel Vs Capcom and Xmen for me.
Now we need Matt reacting to Max's reaction of the Wha Happun video
And then max reacting to Matt reacting to max reaction video .
@@josealejandrobrocamartinez2966
REACTIONCEPTION
A great episode for sure. Another game content producer, Top Hat Gaming Man, was roasted by viewers for saying similar of the game’s financial problems and negative fan reactions, requiring him to produce another video to essentially prove his findings correct. The FGC scene, while providing the game a well-deserved second chance at popularity, sometimes has rose-colored glasses of a game’s true history and reception.
Yeah I remember his second video addressing the “controversy.” Silly that he had to do that but I’m not surprised. People’s nostalgia can get really out of hand.
Was wondering why Max wasn’t in the Wha Happun for this, but still cool to see him react to it. Love watching Max play games, but his commentary and reactions are just as good. Would love to see you and Matt Collab again
He was already in the episode of Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite. So far I haven't seen any featured youtubers double-dipped in this series.
@@mysticmind4563 Max has triple dipped actually. FF7, MvCI, and Killer Instinct
@@Bjhorn279 ah, then it could just be he had something else to do.
Street Fighter 3 has to have had the worst arcade cabinet ever. I still remember seeing Street Fighter 3 for the first time, didn’t know it had come out, was at an airport with my parents waiting on some people, and from far away I see this cabinet that doesn’t say Street Fighter, and isn’t showing any previous Street Fighter characters. I’m looking at this thing, walking through the airport, and I’m like: Is that a new Street Fighter? But it took a while to tell it was a new Street Fighter became someone got the bright idea to just put 3 on the cabinet...it was in the SF2 font, but then anyone can use that font too.
Also, like no place I went to normally had a Street Fighter 3 cabinet. I think the only two place I ever saw it (when it was new) was that airport (and I didn’t get to play it) and the Casa Bonita we almost never went to.
"Three...? Wait. Only 3 CHARACTERS!? This can't really be Street Fighter, can it?"
- Young me, probably
I had the same reaction, but it was in an arcade. I thought it was some kinda weird hack, like a rainbow edition, or something. It just didn't look real, so I figured I wouldn't waste my time. Plus, at least at first glance, it didn't show Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, Blanka, or any of the characters I remember.
First time was in the Village in NYC. It was a cabinet directly facing the street and completely vacant. I think everyone said "Three? What?" Years later, present day, right down the block is Barcade with alot of cabinets and drinks 😆
@@germain83
Damn. I have no idea what NYC was like in the 90s being born in '96 myself.
Did we ever have a big arcade scene?
(I was born in Brooklyn, raised in Queens. Even now, the only places I know of in terms of "Arcades" are: Barcade, Chinatown Funfair--which is really small and Next Level Battle Circuit.)
@@proquo-s
I was never in Brooklyn...but I’ve got to imagine everywhere in America had a good sized arcade scene. Arcade cabinets in general were totally ubiquitous. There were arcades everywhere. Malls usually had at least one arcade. But you also could go to the movies and the theatre would have a little arcade, and then just in the halls of the bigger ones there’d be different arcade cabinets. Pizza places usually had a few machines set up. The first time I ever saw War Gods was some little gas station. I got into KoF because that was one of the machines they had at the college my mom worked at. I lived in a pretty small town, but during middle school and some of high school we had a little arcade in the break area.
Love the commentary Max. But seriously, I also remember this rollercoaster ride with 3. But third strike, that set the bar so high. Still bites that back then 3 did not receive the love it deserved until much later.
I’m in the camp of loving 3rd Strike too late.
I liked it, but could never get güd enough to go against the sharks.
These days, I watch Third Strike religiously.
Granted, I dislike when tourneys end up with Chun/Yun/Ken as it’s top tiers.
What impresses me is when a Q, Oro, Remy, Yang blowout despite the game never receiving an “official patch”.
@@genericsavings It received a patch, but no one plays it. Fixes one crucial bug but further nerfs 2 low tiers due to patching unblockables.
Third Stkrike is mediocre just like other SF3 games just better.
@@hitek9too255 your opinion. But it moved the series forward unlike IV and V
@@kadosho02 Moved with what? The cast is terrible and most of the new characters have recycled fighting styles and moves to SF2 characters not in the game. It's a reason the game didn't sell good and you never see the new characters in vs. series.
That is so, so weird. I remember when this game was out in arcades when I was in college. The rec room had TWO of these machines and they were the MOST played machines (besides Gauntlet Dark Legacy). There was always a line for it. I thought it was popular as hell but... I guess college kids in Southern California are an anomaly? lol
SoCal is where a lot of competitive arcade culture started. Not surprising
Or it sounds like you didn't have enough machines. SF3s biggest hurdle was just the sheer volume of fighting games available.
The 90s eras of fighting games can never be replicated. Was a true golden era.
2nd Impact was when Street Fighter 3 improved. More characters, Akuma was in it AND he was a secret boss along with Shin Akuma
I still love and play 2nd impact. The sprites have more definition and frames since they are more native (notice how they have less frames and less definition in 3rd strike). Also the esthetic presentation dynamic stages and music are still fresh.
SFV's visuals kinda bled into MVCI, having similar modeling without the shading that made the previous entry look so crisp. The art direction improved with characters like Menat and G, who felt more at home in the backgrounds and the lighting.
SFIII would've been a monster hit if the roster were jampacked with classic street fighters from II and Alpha.
Capcom later learned from their mistake and gave Alpha 3, IV, and V more satisfying rosters up to 37+ characters each, and mostly involves SFII veterans.
Max should also react to the “Wha Happun” on the three Canceled Mortal Kombat Trilogy Remakes.
Yes he should!
I was super into Street Fighter when this launched. First saw a cabinet when I was in Toronto in December 1997. The cabinet was sad and alone, but I was psyched to try it. I walked away very disappointed in the gameplay, but I remember thinking it looked super beautiful. Never played III again and stayed with the Alpha games and SFvX-Men, MvC, etc.
I probably tried it in Toronto about the same time at Funland Arcade downtown. The animations were nice but they made the game feel sluggish and the backgrounds were kinda boring with washed out colours. I don't think it was the game pace being slower that made unpopular like Max said because Capcom Vs. SNK 2 came out after and everyone loved it. Other than the animations the game just felt lower quality than other 2D fighters around at the time.
@@rlam905 That's such an interesting perspective after seeing so much love for SF3 in retrospect painting it as this unloved gem, too good for it's cruel, polygon-horny time. As someone from a place with like zero arcade culture I never even played SF3 until it was released in it's online version, so all I've really known about it was it's reputation (Marvel wasn't really a thing here in Sweden and Alpha was on the Playstation and I had an N64, sadface), so I didn't really have any nostalgic memories to compare it too. What would you say was the stuff that made it feel lower quality to you, compared to other 2D games?
@@goranisacson2502 Well aside from the backgrounds and the feel you had a small roster of playable characters compared to other games at the time with not only Ryu and Ken (and Sean) being basically the same character model but Yun and Yang as well. Also the level music was unremarkable compared to SF2's music. Lastly back then when the parry system was introduced we didn't think it was well thought out. We thought eventually people would master it and you wouldn't be able to hit each other because everybody would just be parrying everything all the time.
@@rlam905 those thoughts aren’t entirely wrong anyways, at least for New Generation and Second Impact. NG had an especially gracious time window for parries + weird air parry, and 2I didn’t have Red Parries.
Man that was ... something else. By contrast I feel like SF 4 learnt a LOT from SF3's launch and was downright fucking amazing at launch, and even revived the arcade scene for a while. Would love to hear a deep dive for SF4 in this vein.
By the time SF4 was out tho people were dying for another SF, they almost didn't believe it was real
I actually remember playing SF3 New Generation in the arcades back in 97 when it first came out and actually LIKING it. Animations were fantastic and I actually liked the diverse new roster.
Still remember playing New Generation on the arcade for the 1st time back in 97. I picked Ken and then felt blown away with the gorgeous sprites & artworks, crispy sound effect / animation when got hit / block, and the stage transition. But that day no one playing NG (except me lol 🥲) . They were busy playing Alpha 2, Time Crisis 2, Tekken 3, and VF 2 cabinets.
Max and Matt need to do a lets-watch of Face Off.
"Stop talking about Face/Off" - Pat's echo from distance and different time
@@solidspiderznake8100 that’s the true reason sbf split up, Matt wouldn’t shut up about face/off
This kind of reminds me of the reception for Tekken 4… Hardly ANYONE played it in Chinatown Fair. I bought it for my birthday, and I finished it so easily.
Back in the day in our local game arcades, the most popular games are in the arcade machines with big screens, like 50 to 70 inches screens. SFIII New Generation was in a regular cabinet in the corner of the place. It's like I found a hidden gem. It was only until around 2004 when 3rd Strike arrived in those massive screens beside games such as MvC2.
When SFIIII came out I _wanted_ to play it a lot, but none of the local arcades had one. The only time I ever got to touch the game was on a vacation to the beach, and I really liked it. I was far from a "hardcore" player though.
Our arcade had sf3 right next to Marvel vs street fighter. It stood no chance and was usually open. I remember seeing people play sf3 while waiting for their turn on mvs and just abandoning the sf3 match to play mvs
What happun is one of the pinnacle prime time UA-cam shows - would highly recommend
I remember my first thought when I saw it at the arcade was "Wow, flowy pants. These graphics are amazing."
To be perfectly honest, I've only started learning about how 2D fighters actually work within the last couple of years, however, I remember finding a "Three" machine on the boardwalk in New Jersey way back in 1997 and being completely and utterly engrossed for that entire week of vacation. I didn't bother with any of the new characters; stuck with Ryu and Ken. The "Shin Shoryuken" Super Art absolutely captured my imagination. I just loved everything about it. Looking at Alpha 3 a couple years later, when the arcade machine showed up at my college, I felt like it was a step backwards. I can appreciate that game now, but back then, I was already sick to death of those CPS2 sprites.
I wouldn't mind seeing Max react to more things like this (occasionally) and offer his input.
I love he'd pause to elaborate, then unpause and Matt would say exactly what Max did.
"Ok, Matt I'll just shut up now."
This is great to see. I think the reason Max Dood popped up on my algorithm is from watching Wha Happuns? by Matt
That’s intro will never get old
I know right never skip it
It's so good
I must be living in a simulation for this collab to exist. It's been a while
Max has been on two Wha Happun episodes already: Marvel vs Capcom Infinite and Final Fantasy VII Remake Edit: almost forgot he was on the Killer Instinct episode too
@@jac_238 dont forget the killer instinct what happened
Chilled Bambino oh shit almost forgot
Wow crunch in the 90's was even worse than it is now, imagine being overworked and also working at multiple projects at the same time and releasing them in a span of 6 to 8 months, that's fucking insane.
So weird to me that third strike didn't include all the previous iterations stages and music
Space/memory issue
Max actually introduced me to Matt McMuscles with a link to one of his Crymetina Critiques episodes years ago. Now, I've watched so much of that man's content, and recommended Wha Happun in particular to several friends. Thanks, dood!
I had no clue street fighter 3 was a thing until I saw my cousins playing 3rd strike it on the dreamcast
Same thing with me, but I wasn't really a gamer at the time. I did play SF2 a lot but I never actually took it seriously. But then again, I was like 10 years old, I didn't take anything seriously (just like in the present, I guess).
I remember one day me and my bro went to our cousins place who always had video games, the only place I could guarantee to play something. He popped in Third Strike and man, what an experience. Everything was so new to me, it was so awesome. The character select music blew my mind and all the characters looked so cool. Even Sean, who I thought was the coolest one.
Personally, I love Street Fighter 3 as it's my favorite entry in the Street Fighter series mainly because I just like the more weirder, wilder and more circus freak type of characters I would say. But heck that is just me. Because I love how different Street Fighter 3 was from Street Fighter 2 as that is what makes it all the more memorable for me personally. Plus I just love how SF3: New Generation's fresh, crisp graphics never seem to get dated even all the way 25 years later.
In-Fact, I am gonna record a playthrough video of myself playing Street Fighter 3: New Generation to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the game's release this year on February 4th, 2022.
I love it when we get these crossover episodes with uncle mcmuscles ^^
Re-arranged Limp Bizkit ref...
I got significant other the day before it came out at a FYE.
Dude took 20 bucks and hooked me up.
Something I find funny is kof13 went through something similar. It's one of the most visually stunning games of all time. And it played amazing. But no one in the us played it. I never actually knew it existed until the rereleased it for smart phones. Years later ppl gush over it( deservingly) but snk lost money and went bankrupt. But things are looking up now for snk and kof. Xv could be their most well received game in a long time
I'm hopeful for kof. Actually have been since 14, I didn't even think that could happen
Yea I brought KOF 13 day one, it came with a full soundtrack CD, everything from KOF ‘94 up until KOF 13. That game was amazing man, literally a work of art. What’s sad is all of the excruciatingly hard work SNK put into it just for it to sell terribly. They spent something like 6 months a piece making each and every character.
@@orlanzo2621 that's heartbreaking. All that effort for the end result to be a commercial flop. But at least it's getting it's flowers now. I'm glad 13 wasn't the last kof tho. They've been bouncing back starting with samsho and now kof xv so the future is bright for snk
@@EAZIIMAN Yea it literally almost bankrupted them, thankfully it didn't. I'm glad they are still going strong, they've always been one of my favorite fighting game companies. Samsho was great (even tho it had terrible netcode), and KOF 15 looks amazing. I hope people actually support it, i know i will. Day one buy.
Matt is hilarious! I found out about him when Max watched his Killer Instinct Wha Happun.
Any reason to rewatch a Capcom Wha' Happend?! Is always awesome! Great to see you supporting ya boy Maxi-dude!
Wha happun is great. He goes over development of such with little bias and is still funny af. First time I've ever seen someone talk about sonic 06 without shitty overused jokes
That explains a lot it wasn't originally supposed to be a Street Fighter game is that the reason why you only get to choose one out of three super Arts at the character selection screen that's something you never seen in any other Street Fighter game because it wasn't even Meant To Be A Street Fighter game
I remember the original play test for SF3. It was just called "Three", and it didn't have ANY classic SF characters in there. Ken and Ryu only made it in because the demand for legacy characters was the primary complaint about the game.
@17:20 slow and strategic works well for weapon games like Last Blade and Samurai Shodown
"Hello,Matthew~"
"Stop calling me that!"
I’ve been watching a bunch of What Happun vids recently. Kinda surprised to see Max randomly reacting to this lol
9:38 is 100% true about no Ken & Ryu, initially. This was even mentioned in an issue of EGM(the best magazine back in the day).
I remember playing SF3 with no Ryu or Ken but I loved the look and music still. This game still holds its value.
That's so awesome! Did any of the characters play differently in that build?
An interesting story regarding SFIII: I was the first to play and introduce the game among my circle of friends! At the time, all my friends were knee deep into Alpha 3, and everyone I knew had a copy except me. So one day I go into one of the old Gamestops I used to frequent and finally found a copy of Street Fighter Alpha 3 on the Dreamcast. Timing was not on my side that day because I was literally out of money to buy the game, and had to wait a couple of days until payday to acquire it. Said payday came around and timing was literally not on my side again, and they sold the game a good FIVE MINUTES before I got there! Insane, right? So, of course I was sorely disappointed that I missed out, but before I was about to leave, I looked back up at the lock case and saw something I'd never seen before. In fact it was something I never even knew existed (because our local arcades never had the cabinets): a fresh, brand new copy of Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike! It just kind of sparked my curiosity something fierce, so I went back up to the counter and said, "you know what? Gimme that one!" Took it home, fired it up, and had a blast playing it! I didn't even care that the roster was vastly different. I spent a good amount of time learning the characters (Elena ended up being my all time favorite) and every nook and cranny I could, then took it to my bestie's house and got the rest of our circle to play it. Even they'd never seen SFIII at that point, and they went out to get copies of the game, which at that time was difficult to find! I just got lucky that day!
The quote at 26:00 is gold. Respect to the team for plugging away at it for so many years.
matt nails why this game is so good at the end you can't just do the same thing over and over you have to react in real time and learn even to this day it makes the game forever fresh and new and so hype to play and watch
Third Strike IMO had the weakest stages though, New Generation especially was really trying cool stuff artistically that 3S just didn't quite follow up on. Like they're still good, just generally speaking the weakest of the bunch for me. At least that's how I remember it, I might oughta revisit 'em again, it's been a few years.
New generation and 2nd impact did have better stages than 3rd strike.
YH, I LUV THE STAGES IN NG & 2I, THO THERE ARE A FEW WINNERS IN 3S, LIKE URIEN'S INSANELY DETAILED STAGE.
=)
First time playing SF3 was on the Dreamcast in December 99 and I was impressed with the animation but the gameplay not so much. It didn't help how bad the Dreamcast controller was for playing fighting games compared to the Sega Saturn controller. I didn't really get into SF3 till 3rd was released for the PS2 in 2004 and PS2 controller was much better.
I never owned one but my cousins did, We had the Sega Saturn and playstation but. I thought I was the only one that felt the Dreamcast controller for fighting games was terrible.
5:17 early development for Clock Tower 3 for the ps2.
tbh, I think Daigo parried the whole world's insecurities and doubt on SF3. I wasn't that hyped for SF3 until I saw that moment and went all in.
Odd thing about this: John Choi did the exact same thing to a Necro player in a New Generation tournament. He parried all but one hit of the Magnetic Storm and survived, yet nobody talked that game up like it was the greatest thing ever. To see such a double standard with 3rd Strike's Daigo moment really put me off.
@@coldh8terade737 is there a video of this? I've never seen it.
@@scnix This happened the year the game was out, so video recordings weren't possible back then. I know about it because the official strategy guide from Gamefan had an article that gave details on how the match progressed.
@@coldh8terade737 that's probably why no one knows about John Choi but Daigo's parry is known worldwide. It's not really a double standard.
@@scnix It is within the FGC, because streaming wasn't a thing in 2003 either. You'd never know about Daigo vs JWong unless you tuned in regularly at forums like SRK. And that's where the double standard comes in. The John Choi match was at a pre-Evo tournament in NorCal called Battle by the Bay. This is where all the top players would compete at the time. John Choi does it, everyone still hates New Generation. Then Daigo does it, and all of a sudden, 3rd Strike is a godsend. That angered the hell out of me, because I actually liked playing New Generation.
I didn’t get to play SF3 until a lot later in life. I was on SF2 and SF Alpha 2 on the SNES. I never seen SF3 in the arcades where I lived. I have to say that I have played it now etc. but it’s my favourite art style to watch. It looks amazing. I’m not as fussed on the SF 4 and 5 art style. I assume SF6 will be similar look with the inky style. Call me a traditionalist - but I love the old 2D hand drawn style.
3rd strike is what brought me here all those years ago in 2011.
Was hoping to find Matthew in the comments.
Loved this live reaction max, found out about matt when i saw his KI what happened video and subbed since! he seems like a great dood :)
We have opposite expectations for SF and KOF series. KOF we expect to look like KOF every time, SF we want to be very diff in each main line change.
In SF3, the answer really lies in the heart of battle, not in your knowledge of frames. lol
Power stone is still one of my favorites as a kid.
Same! I wish capcom would bring it back
I'm now curious about the EX series. Was it liked when it was released? 3D fighters didn't really nail it until Tekken 3.
Virtua Fighter 2 was a pretty solid game, and that came out in 1994.
Watch Top Hat Gaming Man he makes similar videos like "Wha happened"
That’s not true. VF2 and VF3 were both very highly regarded, especially VF2.
This was a really good episode of Fighterpedia
how i hated that the 3rd strike backgrounds and missing 16:9 mode from 2nd impact version never made it in.
"Good for you Matt"
Love the support
They originally weren't going to put Ken and Ryu in Three. I remember that because it was also in an interview about the game in EGM (I think). However, so many people didn't like that change that they ended up backpedaling on that. It's one of the reasons why Alex is positioned as the main character for the Three saga, and not the Shoto duo.
It's weird to hear somebody describe what a lot of us went through back in the arcades he must have been another guy in the Arcade looking like us. Thank for your hard work guys
It's funny because looking at Street Fighter 6 after looking at Street Fighter four Street Fighter 5 these games didn't have it far as the new Next Generation and fighting games but Street Fighter 6 feels so much more like Street Fighter 3 third strike
The one local arcade I had near me had New Generation when it came out. For what it was worth, I did enjoy playing it. I didn't mind the new cast, but it did take me awhile to get accustomed to them. Elena would eventually become my main throughout SFIII's run.
Raise your hand if you're one of those stats on Matt's video. (raises hand) Love Wha Happun.
Edit: I remember seeing a New Generation cab back then. I had the same WTF reaction to it. It just wasn't appealing to me. Mahvel was much nicer, even with my suckitude at playing.
I would love to see Max's reaction to "What Happun" Final Fantasy 7 Remake.
I still remember the Killer Instinct video they did together and it is crazy that they weren't going to add Ryu and Ken originally
I saw one of those SFIII machines without Ken and Ryu in Valparaíso, Chile in the mid-90s. I thought it was a bootleg game trying to cash in on SFII’s popularity. After seeing the final release with Ken and Ryu, for years I thought I was crazy. Only a few years ago I found out on UA-cam that there was an early version without the characters that was tested in some places
Very true Street fighter five had a long long long journey to get to where it is now
I think I might have been the only person who loved SF3 even back then in my area. The fact it was so lacking in SF2 characters was a bonus to me, as I was just a bit tired of being sold the same game and mostly same characters over and over again throughout SF2, SFA and SFEX's many versions. In fact, SF4 going back to being 90% SF2's roster was a big part of why I held a grudge against it for so long.
The fact so many of SF3's characters have direct parallels to SF1's characters (Dudley and Eagle, Ibuki and Geki, Yun/Yang and Lee, Makoto and Retsu, etc) was super cool to me. It even made Ryu and Ken being the only returning characters make sense in a thematic way.
Me and a few buddies would head to the local arcade at least once a week to wreck people at SFIII. It was mainly Second Impact or Third Strike by that time since I never saw many people play New Generation. I did and it never bothered me that Ken and Ryu were the only characters. I learned to play Alex and Dudley while my buddy played Ibuki.
I never noticed the parallels you mentioned. I had SF for the TurboGrafx-16 (called Fighting Street) and I even didn't make that comparison. Good eye.
I remember when mortal kombat 2 came out in arcade and the day it came out I spent all day long playing it
Yep, Sean was going to be the only shoto in THREE.
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You could also say that “the answer lies in the heart of BATTLE”
Im a grown man. I’m watching a grown man watching a video with a grown talking about video games.
Last time I did something close to this was GTA4…. Watching Niko watching TV in his apartment.
I know we say that Third Strike has had a renaissance, and I don't disagree that that happened. But, I wonder... even now, what are the sales like compared to other entries in the SF series? I'd argue that Third Strike EVEN NOW has an appeal to the competitive online community, but lacks appeal to casuals, and therefore probably has an order of magnitude less sales, even with the bump from its refurbished image. I think that refurbished image took place in a little bit of an echo chamber.
I think 2nd Impact is highly underrated. I understand why people may have been lukewarm on it at first, but coming at it with 20+ years of figuring out 3rd strike, and 2I can be a totally fun experience. It plays a lot like a faster and more broken version of 3S. everyone talks about ibuki and sean in that game, but for example did you know Ryu SA3 has 2 stocks. 2 denjins! I've been playing a lot on fightcade recently and it's been a total blast.
A few people at my local have started playing it and we've all been enjoying it a ton
A Streetfigher game without its main Shotos would be like a Tekken without the Mishimas. A tech Demo.
Third Strike continues to age gracefully. Many also forget Castlevania Symphony of the Night was considered a bomb at the time as well, and these days it’s considered the gold standard.
I remember someone mentioning a gaming magazine panning SotN and their "outdated" sprite graphics and praising the 3D Castlevania titles by only showing a screenshot of the FMV sequence. And they were really going at it too, being so smug. I wonder what the writers think about it now.
I'd love more Max reacts content
please do more of these! Love Wha Happun
The SF3 titles will forever be one of (if not) the greatest fighting games of all time. Such a shame that they released at a time no one cared for it.
I still remember going to the arcade and seeing Tekken 3 get all the attention. Street Fighter III was the red headed stepchild.
"CVS2 was the last one."
Capcom Fighting Evolution: :D
"The last REAL one."
Capcom Fighting Evolution: D:
Imagine Street Fighter 6 rendered in the RE Engine
I don't own an Arcade 1up, but if they did one for Street Fighter III with New Generation, Second Impact, and Third Strike... I'd buy it immediately
Castlevania Synphony of the night and street fighter 3 third strike went through the same deal.