Caller Defends the Worst You Could Imagine | Forrest Valkai & Eric (S&S)
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
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Muslim caller Bob calls hosts Forrest Valkai and Eric (S&S) to defend his belief in Islam. Bob presents arguments including Quranic prophecies, scientific accuracy, and the illiteracy of Muhammad. Hosts challenge these claims, pointing out similarities to Christian apologetics and questioning the verifiability of Bob's assertions. The discussion becomes increasingly contentious as it moves to topics such as the problem of evil, God's responsibility for suffering, and the morality of Islamic teachings. The call concludes with a heated exchange.
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'What shape is the earth, Bob?' 'I'm a muslim!' Pure Python.
Every sperm is sacred!
What's on the telly, Bob? It's a penguin!
I’m assuming English isn’t his first language and he just misunderstood. I’m not gonna fault him for that.
Bob another totally wrecked waste of a life, thanks to the absurdity that is religion!
UA-cam removed my comment. It was a funny Python reference. Nevermind 🤦♂️
It's too bad no other civilization ever looked at the moon during Muhammed's lifetime so that they could've recorded that one time it split in half for no apparent reason.
The problem is, no one spoke ant…the ants know.
Hahahahahahahaha
200 million people on Earth at that time
*Crickets
@@Nocturnalux So many eyes and antennae, they see all and sense all... x3
I'd sooner worship ants than Bob's god, frankly.
@@Nocturnalux Yeah but they're woke eusocialists and betas that simp for a queen smh. At least they can fit inside the Derek Zoolander Academy for Kids Who Don't Read That Good (and want to learn how to do other stuff too).
Stay away from children, Bob.
WORD
How, when so many of his wives still have to go to school?
@@peytonmac1131 😂😂😂😂
his ants in his pants will keep him active.
This needs many more likes than it already has
"Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed"
Pretty darn disgusting.
Notice in this childish attempt at Bravado afterglow doesn’t use his name!
@@paullanoue5228bro what
@@paullanoue5228 umm??????????
It sadly is true.... besides what is okay morally😢
@@jasmijnarielits not at all true. The human body isnt fully developed enough to safely and healthily carry offspring just because menstruation starts.
I got pregnant at 17 & gave birth at 18 & my pelvis had to be broken to pass my daughter cos I'd not been done developing.
Puberty for me began at 9.
Puberty ends at around 20 for most. Defending puberty as an age of consent is vile.
And it's important to point out this doesn't take highly academic scientific investigation, it's not culturally relative, or subject to a broad spectrum of valid opinions, you're just right and obviously right.
@@AmberAmber “had to be broken” that’s not a real medical procedure
@@NJ-ju8fr Not frequent but 100% real.
@@NJ-ju8fr if a baby is trapped in the birth canal & unable to pass after coming through the cervix? How do you propose you remove the child?
@@NJ-ju8fr A quick google search takes 5 seconds. It also helps you not look like an ass online.
The hosts asked a question he wasn’t expecting, so threw him off his script. Without a script, he doesn’t know what he thinks.
Typical for “Mr British”
Finks !
absolulty
He didn't need to be thrown off his script to blatantly admitting to being a pedophile or at the very least being fine with a society that completely enables them in every way possible even if he doesn't personally engage in it.
And we have to live on this planet with these kinds of crackpots.
My nieces at 9 were still playing with plushies and having tickle duels with their dad. The thought of someone seeing them as women to sexually engage with makes my skin crawl. I mourn every child that has fallen prey to the mentality this (or any) religion has instilled in their tormentors.
Aisha, the said "prophet's youngest wife", actually played with dolls, that's what the "prophet"'s followers say in their books! She describes her life in his house, where she played with dolls in his presence. So, she wasn't behaving like an "adult teen" (if it makes any sense), she literally was a child. Just reading about it gave me a horrible nausea ((
@@zilvercederbom ya and sadly the idea of a child is still really new. Victorian england, and prior, the guys puberty argument was what was believed. It was just literally "she had her period, shes an adult now." Thank fucking god we have changed that view.
@@Viky.A.V. It was reading about that that caused one woman I knew to become an apostate.
@@pineapplepenumbra totally makes sense to me.
@@MusicalBoarder many in the US haven't changed their views on it, sadly.
The next time someone tells me, I have to respect people’s religious beliefs. I’m going to think of Bob and his defense of pedophilia.
I respect anybody's right to /have/ religious beliefs, but that doesn't make all beliefs worthy of my respect.
I don't respect anyone's religious beliefs. Some people say oh they have the right to that and I just see it as a bunch of adults. LARPing which is perfectly fine. My problem is is when people LARP and don't acknowledge that they're playing pretend that is my problem. So no, I do not respect religion at all. It's brain poison. It's not true. It has never been true. None of them are true so it's a waste of time and only brings bad things as far as I'm concerned
You don’t have to respect people’s beliefs because that creates trouble. You have to acknowledge people’s beliefs then reserve the right to say, “that’s the dumbest fucking thing I’ve heard.”
In Bob’s case you say “that’s the most disgusting fucking thing I’ve heard, and you should be ashamed”.
I firmly believe people should be held accountable for their religious beliefs. I don’t care if someone believes in a god or not, personally I feel like it’s impossible within the bounds of science to definitively prove a god does or doesn’t exist and it feels equally unexplainable and irrational to assume mass that became the big bag came from nothing/always existed as it is to assume some entity that can do anything came from nothing/always existed, feel free to have whatever belief surrounding that stuff and it’s all chill. When people start saying their god is this tyrannical dictator that demands worship and will eternally punish people who don’t comply I give people the side eye because wtf, why would you want to believe that? Then when they continue and say that that same sky tyrant is actually the most moral being in existence and is the true and only arbiter of right and wrong and therefore is completely morally correct in being an evil tyrant I fully disregard that person as morally bankrupt. People will whine that that’s just their religion and that their religion says they deserve the right to be a bigot or whatever stuff they spew, but the thing is is that you get to personalize your religious belief, so you should be held accountable for the beliefs you choose to have. I was raised Christian, I still consider myself to be Christian as I still believe in a god, but instead of mindlessly parroting ideas from churches or bibles, I’ve come to my own conclusions and my own version of the faith that is personal to me. I don’t believe in a hell because I find damning someone, anyone, to eternal infinite torture and suffering to be the most evil act conceivable, anyone who would do such a thing is evil in my mind and I personally don’t believe in an evil god; I believe god isn’t evil so I choose not to believe that they would do something evil such as that. If I did believe god did that I wouldn’t consider them to be a moral paragon, I’d consider them a supervillain, and I’m not nihilistic enough to believe our world is governed by a cosmic supervillain. If someone believes in a cosmic evil entity while also proclaiming that entity as moral and right, then they’re a bad person and should be called out as such. They choose to believe that and they do so because it aligns with their values, and if those values are evil then that is what they are. The Bible does not bind anyone to believe it, and given how much the Bible contradicts itself the only way to form belief around it is cherry picking, that’s completely fine but then you have to be the one held accountable for what you choose to cherry pick, you can’t turn around and say that it’s just your religion and that you have to follow it when you chose that belief purely of your own accord. Personalize your faith, believe the parts that match your philosophy and discard what doesn’t, you’re free to have that faith but you’re also open to receive criticism of your philosophy, your religion is yours and yours alone, which means the responsibility for the beliefs involved in it is also yours and yours alone.
@@aceofspades8474 You might want to format that obelisk a little bit, but I think your ideas would make for a great discussion sometime if you want to call in.
I love it when Forrest gets real.
He's such a lovely lad, you know a caller has to be particularly grotesque in order to get Forrest to stop playing nice. It was also a credit to Eric's even temperament that he could keep his cool during Bob's loathsome self-reporting.
@@bryanmack5410 seriously. He’s so gentle and fun until he gets serious - usually about empathy for people, I’ll note - and you can see the switch flip through his eyes. It’s…aspirational.
hitting bob with the "magical pedophile from Mecca" stuck with me
Whenever a caller starts condoning pedophilia, I never see it coming. I'm always like, at least they are not going to stoop that low. That shit really dissapoints me, I hate to consider that there are people who would admit to that.
you need to get to terms with the fact that the whole islamic part of the world is okay with it, even wants it for themselves.
@@barkosvega2718 No. We're talking about around a billion people here, I'm not presupposing that until I get some evidence, no matter how much I may dislike the religion.
@@barkosvega2718 then they are all wrong
Hebrews said you have to wait until she's 20 before the prophet was even born
@@jvacas4446 I think you can presuppose exactly that, unless there would be a movement within Islam to reform the belief. believing in Islam is believing in ALL OF IT. and ultimately being okay with it.
I have the same thought process with Christians and slavery, people are disappointing
Don't be like Bob, children. Stay in school, study hard, never stop learning. Bob did nothing of it, and now listen to him.
@@FrikInCasualMode I can tell that Bob came from a very poorly educated family, and did nothing at school either, likely leaving at 16 to go into manual labour. Nothing wrong with that in itself, many fine people do, but he then talks with certainty about things he knows nothing about. Untill he's called out on them, and then hides behind being poorly educated.
@@FrikInCasualMode also, children, stay away from Bob. Especially if you have gone through puberty, since he thinks that a girl of, say 10, that has gone through puberty, is fair game. It's like the "half your age +7" thing but -5 in his case.
But Bob gets free meals after his shift at McDonalds
@@zhengfuukusheng9238 Bob would never work at a non-halal restaurant. There is almost certainly no McDonald's near him. He might work at a no-brand fried chicken shop.
@@capitalb5889 Good point. That said, there's a Muslim guy who works in my local McDonalds. Either he has cleaning duties only....or he's not a very devout Muslim
“You both are being real difficult by not accepting my bullsh!t”
EXACTLY 😂😂🚩🚩
No Bob said they accept his scientific facts that are in the Quran. He has trouble listening as well as understanding history and science.
The idea of a grown man with a little girl is absolutely disgusting.
It is, if it was true.
@terrybebee4091 Muslim countries still practice Child Marriages, and Saudi Arabi is like number 4 in the world of countries with the highest number of current marriages involving a child
@@danielessex2162Alabama still practicing child marriage
I could not believe that he admitted it out loud
Sad that this has to be stated in 2024. Disappointing tbh
This is the rot that religion causes. This is 51 minutes of Bob denying that God is a prick. He lies and obfuscates, deflects and then when pushed into a corner says the victim deserved it. In this scenario, God is a prick but Bob is a malevolent monster because not only does he give God a pass, but he blames the victim and then tries to justify it. Unbelievable. This guy is so indoctrinated he can't think straight. Like Matt is known for saying - You've sacrificed your humanity on the alter of this book that can't be shown to be true. So who is worse - a mythical God or Bob?
I'm leaning towards Bob being far worse, because as utterly monstrous and loathsome as his God is, it's almost definitely a fictional character. Bob unfortunately does exist.
In a practical societal sense, the fictional god character (despite not being real) has and will likely do immeasurably more damage than individual Bob ever could. That said, a fictional character isn't responsible for having been invented. Also, as we all know nobody can actually believe the platonic ideal of their scripture, everyone cherrypicks and interprets their own god... so in this case, the one responsible for inventing and believing in this p3d0-loving god is Bob.
Bob. The other isn't real.
Only people worse than Bob are the leaders of these religions that push this nonsense onto their populations for control, information, and money.
Bob is also not responsible for being born and for being so traumatized by life to become what he is.
You are right about religion causing brain rot. Brainwashing and indoctrination are very powerful to the point that you can show that the Israelites were writing god stories and myths like other cultures from the ancient Near East and that Christianity and Islam in turn are based on these *older* myths and they'll come up with all sorts of excuses to try and deny it.
When analysed critically and objectively, it's obvious that none of these "holy" books are divinely inspired, but are man made myths and legends.
It's like they prefer fantasy to reality.
Bob needs to be on a watchlist.
He needs to be in jail
Definitely needs to have his hard drive checked too.
I suspect he already is and if not after this will be.
Bob needs to get back on his meds.
Surely that goes for all who follow this despicable cult?
The ending was rough! Contact authorities in the UK and put Bob on a watch list
That’s not how it works here in UK. Those reports get filed in an innocently entitled, “Peter file”. Nobody investigates those.
The silence at the beginning on the question of the shape of the earth, was uncomfortable 😅
i think that silence was partly audio error, since bob comes back and says he said circle (meaning 'round' as he was using it, not '2d') so i think the call dropped out for a second and also he was trying to understand what they were asking since that's a pretty left field question.
unless he really is that flat earth guy and didn't want to get hung up on that point this time.
but funny
But it told us all we needed to know.🤔
@@DraconisWyrm Bob was stuffed either way. The Quran says the earth is flat and to him, every word of it is true.
Muslim: "My god is real. Yours isn't."
Christian: "No. MY god is real, and YOURS isn't."
This is the bottom line for the arguments of both religions.
Fake dialog comment…ugh.
Like a fucking playground fight when they go after each other.
"Your god is fake!"
"YOUR god is fake!"
"I know yours is, but what is mine?"
@@Marchant2 although it is the same god, sort of
@@skiphoffenflaven8004 Ok.... Huh?
Muslims will claim that Quran is the latest patch in the game. Mormons will probably claim the same thing.
This conversation is the perfect reason why we don’t need religion
It's not like people like this wouldn't find a different source of feeling special vs another insignificant nobody.
Just saying, getting rid of religion isn't going to be the single solution. It'd be a start.
We do need religion. However, we need religions based on science and reality, and not superstition.
Unless the meaning of the words are different from what I understand them to be, a religion based on science isn't really a religion.
@@peytonmac1131what are you talking about?! Haven’t you ever heard of Sciencetology?! 😂
@@francmittelo6731why?
Religion is heavily propped up on victim blaming..
Especially if those victims are women or girls.
And poor intelligence
It is literally the core of all religious thought
How so, genuinely want to know your thought process. (Not religious or trying to debate, just curious where your coming from)
@Localcatgirl_ if god is the all knowing all powerful being he's purported to be, and he created us broken, then orders us to be whole or else, that's punishing (blaming) us for being who we were created to be. Doing the things we were created capable of doing. In that way, We are the victims of a psycho god who creates things a certain way and then punishes them for being that way and, then tells us it's our own fault for being the way we were created. Victim blaming.
It is truly horrifying that tons of people think exactly like bob about starving children and r@pe
And what does moral relativism say about tons of people that think the same way? That's why moral relativism is a bad idea.
@@theboombodyThen their society collapse onto itself when people don't cooperate. You can subjectively decide if you want that and act accordingly.
Undesirable consequences doesn't imply falsehood. Morality is still dependent of an agent who has something to gain or lose.
@@samuelmarger9031 Oh good, you are being consistent instead of defensive. Most people wouldn't have the guts to soften the label of those atrocities to the term "undesirable consequences."
@@theboombody By "undesirable consequences" I meant a lack of clear and definitive answer to morality, not atrocities. Even then, it's still an argument from consequences to accept objective morality based on just that principle. We, moral agents, care about consequences and our potential gains and losses, not the Universe as a whole. It's still up to us to decide and act.
And don't think for a moment that I soften atrocities to be reductive. I still, even subjectively, value human lives and despise harm to them. I just accept its subjectivity because morality-the distinction between right and wrong-is still dependent on an agent to perceive what is right or wrong. It can be objective in the sense of having clear mind-dependent criteria, but those criteria still need an agent to decide-it's as objective up to a set of subjectively set standards.
(Edit: way too many grammatical errors)
@@samuelmarger9031 Like I said, at least you're consistent.
If Forrest is getting mad at you, you may have to step back and re examine your life choices.
Special pleading, he doesn't use science for the quran but when a Christian makes a claim he wants their scientific proof
And he is not an expert, but he knows that everything in his book is completely scientifically correct.
@@MrCanis4 exactly, it's correct even the bits he doesn't apparently
@@MrCanis4 Well yeah, he watched some people on UA-cam say it's correct. lol
'It's ok when i do it.'
That's what they do with Islam. It's bafflingly dumb asf.
It seems as though Muslims are exactly like Christians in their ability to dodge questions like Neo dodges bullets.
They also just drop their masks in the exact same way.
Meanwhile like half of rabbis will gladly point out how the entire Torah is half allegory, half wasteland survival guide
If Mel Brooks were a priest or imam, he'd be less funny
He was pretty funny when he played one, though.
@@Wiggimus Neo doesn't dodge bullets, she blocks them with her umbrella
@@Ponera-Sama Ayo? Fellow R.W.B.Y. fan?
All I heard is “let me just finish rambling about this illogical, incoherent nonsense that nobody, not even most theists, want to hear about” 😂
how much you want to bet the reason so many of the guests they have on do the same kind of Reagan era drug PSA level babbling is thanks to their "teachers" incompetence at teaching manipulation tactics. would explain why they just start losing the whole plot once someone actually picks apart the argument instead of sitting there and nodding along
So why did the hosts keep it going for so long?
@@maxm2639 they were being polite
@@aleksaslanov8741 Watch the last few minutes of the video & Forrest's denunciation of the guy. It includes Forrest claiming that if one has thoughts about a criminal action, then one is that kind of criminal: my original references to kids and certain crimes got removed, so the example I'll give is: "A bank robber is anyone who robs banks or thinks about it"--I pointed out that if you never do it, you're like everyone else who has thoughts of criminal activity but never does it--a point I've seen Matt make several times).
I think the justification of any kind of child abuse is unacceptable even if it is some religion's scripture, but Forrest's final response to the guy was an attack that was not even close to polite--although I don't know enough about Forrest to know if he has had some personal experience that makes the caller's rationalization particularly onerous. He could have hung up on the guy after saying that he won't discuss any rationale for child abuse--I'm a big fan of just giving a one sentence reason and then hanging up--it spares us from watching rants, however justified the emotion may be.
I realize that some fans seem to watch for the host blow-ups and see it as entertaining or some kind of justice delivered to stupid callers. I don't.
“Everything is real.” What about this crazy shit. “Oh that’s magic.”
This Muslim believes:
1. Before I was born, I agreed with a god to be born.
2a. When I was born, I was born with no memory of the encounter in #1
2b. I existed with my current mental capacity before I was born.
These people are wacky
All religious fanatics are delusional.
Not only did you agree to be born, but, allegedly, it was explained to you that you would live in a shitty world where terrible things could happen to you out of the blue for no reason at all, and, since you are here now, you apparently accepted that and signed a waiver of some sort.
I had heard major excuses before to support a belief in a "benevolent" god, but this tops it all.
Sorry "Bob", my brain is not damaged enough to accept such a nonsensical proposition.
Isn't it the devil who deals in contracts?
@@JGM0JGM I'm also just curious about what the alternatives are to signing said contract? Do you just go straight to their version of Heaven, never even having had a physical body? Then what are all the virgins for? Why would anybody choose to get sent to Earth?
Or is signing the contract necessary to get into Heaven? In which case, what happens if you don't sign the contract? Do you go to their version of Hell? Are you immediately destroyed? Where are you signing this contract if not in Heaven, Hell, or Earth? If you don't sign the contract, does your mother simply become un-pregnant after having been fertilized? Or is the moment of contract signing at the moment of birth, and your physical form simply dies in its mother's arms?
None of it makes any sort of sense the moment you think even one layer down, just like every conspiracy theory out there. People only fall for this stuff because they were indoctrinated into it from before they had the capacity to reason their way out of it...
@@Jedi_Vigilante Exactly, good questions, enquiring minds want to know!
Being Illiterate doesn’t mean that he can’t use his ears to listen to stories and scientific ideas that go back thousands of years earlier.. and then regurgitate them however he likes and doesn’t even need to understand any of it..
Can’t be accused of lying if you don’t know what nonsense you’re regurgitating, right? (Shut up, Lincoln)
Being illiterate is also the easiest possible thing to fake. Even if you were to be caught literally reading a book you could just throw it aside and say that you were trying to make sense of the words and letters, but that you can't....because you're illiterate.
Mo could have known how to read, there's zero possible way to prove otherwise.
I skipped the Terms and Services on my Fetal Contract from Allah, worst mistake of my life habibi
Gems like this are why I read the comments.
By far the best comment on this clip
Forrest explains how something happens, asks how the Quran description is accurate, & he responds with “I’m not an expert in science.” FORREST JUST EXPLAINED IT TO YOU!! Come on, man…
By which Bob means that he doesn’t understand enough about science to make up something that sounds plausible-he’s utterly flummoxed. But because he is alive now, Forrest is 1400 years too late to be taken seriously.
He's religious.
51:40 seconds of THIS crap?
Seriously...?
As soon as he said "I'm a Muslim" I knew it was going to be a litany of lies, denials, and plain ignorance.
Same whenever someone claims to be christian or whatever.
This proves that religion can and will be used to justify any atrocity.
Well said!
I signed a contract before i was born? I guess that should be nullified since i wasnt an adult!
But had you reached puberty yet? Apparently that can happen way earlier than we ever thought! Maybe you reached puberty in the womb.
Bob doesn't care if someone's an adult or not clearly
He really thought he was being reasonable by saying “well you can sometimes wait until they’re a little bit older…” gross.
On the very slim chance anyone who knows Bob in real life sees this: please don't leave him alone with children. Ever.
People rarely advocate for things this socially reprehensible without having a vested interest in it themselves...
Anyone who claims there are no problems with their holy book, is a dishonest fool who knows they are lying.
Or they haven't read it, they only pay attention to the verses their religious leader tells them to. It's the ones that make them feel warm and fuzzy inside.
@@jwomackandcheese73it’s always the couple lovey dovey quotes but they skip over all the rape murder etc
@@jwomackandcheese73 which would still be dishonest, as you can't make such a statement not having read the thing you're making the statement about.
Bob calls regularly, often using different names so he can reuse his old tired arguments. His alias today is because he is going to be BOBbing and weaving all over the place.
I've heard him before as well using an English name, but he certainly won't have a name like Bob in real life. He sounds like he comes from one of those areas that are 99% Pakistani-Muslim
@@capitalb5889 I didn't know there were areas that were 99% Pakistani or muslim in the UK. Where?
@@ZER0-- there are a few, the most well-known is Bradford where parts are almost exclusively Pakistani Muslim. To quote from a news article (copy the words into Google of you wish to read):
'Farnham Primary School, on Stratford Road in Little Horton, has just been judged as outstanding in every category in its latest Ofsted report.
Inspectors visited the school last month, and the latest report says pupils showed "exceptional" progress and the school "oozed quality."
The school has 544 pupils and most are of Pakistani heritage. Almost all children speak English as an additional language'
There are parts of East London where nearly every pupil is of Bangladeshi origin as well.
The fact that it took him a long time to answer about the shape of the Earth is not helping his case
@@capitalb5889...so, ghettos then
Edit: I looked up the definion of ghetto on wikipedia and it specifically mentions the Bangladeshi population in East London.
...so, I was right when I said, "ghettos".
This went from silly arguments about the moon and ants to “girls reach puberty between the ages of 9 and 13”.
Demented. Utterly demented.
Thank you to Forrest for saying exactly what I was thinking to Bob regarding the .pdf file stuff in this call.
The only thing is I wish he pointed out that Bob is one or he would be accepting of one in real life and thus is an IRL danger to children and is exactly why people are moving away from religion. Once again these people make our arguments for us. This isn't just abstract, speculative or merely theological pondering, this is his personal ideology that some children should be preyed on by adults that he uses prewritten text to justify.
It's a difficult delineation to make, but some people argue because they think they have to and some people believe in it. This guy BELIEVES in it.
There are religious people that you can tell have a reflexive disgust to the worst aspects of their religious texts. They cope with that in a variety of ways. They all carry water for the worst aspects of their faith, but some of them might have a glimmer of sense that you can appeal to. Maybe a first prior or two.
This guy gave the weakest cop out for 4 seconds before repeating 4-5 times that puberty is a perfectly acceptable time. He is the evil water that more reasonable religious people carry gleefully, every day. I can't believe every comment isn't just "this guy is a danger to society" reworded in various ways because he admitted it himself.
@@RancorousSeaTo be fair, if I heard someone tell me they think its fine to boink 9-year-olds, the religious implications of that statement wouldn't exactly be the first thing on *my* mind either.
The f in .pdf stands for file, so it's kind of redundant. You can just say .pdf and everyone will understand what you mean, even when you use it to mean that other thing.
PDF stands for portable document format.
@@wcookivin this case OP means something that rhymes with pdf file.
Caller: I didnt say that
Me watching: You just said exactly that
Muslim taqya, he told MANY lies, if he speaks arabic he knows he is telling lies
the '' keeth moor '' thing is false, he said some thing very silly obviously to anyone that ever studied 2nd year MD, Keeth was in the middile of saudi Arabia and just said yea thats interesting when the Muslims told him that quran spoke about embryology, thats it, he never agreed to it and then he published some book that says some thing similar and Muslims just toke it and ran with it, he since went back to his country and detached him self from aaallll of it
also he is telling a lie about the sperm thing, no its says '' manye al rajoul '' latterly means the man's semen, he is telling taquya lies
and again he is telling a lie about the Quran not changing, the quran was ''gathered '' several times and people didnt know if it was all real or not, and durring the dawla amaway and dawla abaasy they had an entire war with endless deaths over which parts were which and with the rule of chalaphyet, so he is telling lies or is very ignorant
also he lied about the Ex-cute for R@pests in islam, no in islam you agree to marry her and you are set free, she has no say in the matter her father or older or old enough brother or uncle etc are the ones to decide
I come from the same country as this guy and feel ashamed.
@@iatebambismom That's very cruel of you.
(Talking about the username, not the comment)
@@samoilis2276 It's a comment about animation.. I'm actually vegan, haha.
The moon is still split in half. The back side is missing. 😂
Fun question ask them why and how it was put back together. You can get very odd answers.
Didn't China or Japan recently send an unmanned probe - or maybe it was a manned mission - to the dark side of the moon?
@@n0etic_f0x Krazy Glue? Granted it doesn't claim to work on lunar surfaces, but who knows?
Such great science
Flattards say the other side of the moon is always dark that is how ignorant people can be
It's just too dark back there to see anything
-There are some things scientifically correct in the Quran
-what about these things that are incorrect ?
-I'm not a scientist.
theists actually turned ignorance into a weapon. The less they know, the more points they don't have to acknowledge
Yes because, according "the Bible" the less you know the more pure your worship. This keeps people dumb and demands they never ask questions about said religion.
Why would they need to collect 2 of every animal if the flood wasn’t global?
I think the better question is why collect breeding stock if there were a creator god? Why not just create replacements?
@@iitywybmad29 🤣😂👍👍😂🤣
@@iitywybmad29or why couldn't god just Thanos snap the people away?
Why?
@@Farce13 seems unnecessary to put kangaroos on the ark if the flood didn’t cover Australia.
I feel sick after listening to this call. Idk how anyone can justify doing that to a child
"What we're trying to get at, is that we think your book is full of shit."
"It's a perfect book, nobody could have made it up."
Yeah nope.
His inability to even process the question "what if the thing you believe in is fiction invented by man" would be funnier if he didn't belong in jail
Like Forrest brings up his "evil club" example and I'm just thinking "This guy would be the dude that does the crimes".
The hosts would get more sense from the ants 🐜.
Science does get things wrong, but the trick is that it goes and corrects it and discards the mistake as best as it can.
If religions get things wrong, they just claim that reality is wrong, and it was a miracle.
And keep the wrong thing because dogma.
I love that they ignore the part where we find out science is wrong....with science!
Yeah, but science makes no statement about what's morally right and wrong. It totally ignores morality, mostly because morally can't be measured using standard scientific units like length and mass can.
@@theboombody There are social sciences, actually. Like moral philosophers. They can't tell us what axioms we should live by- *that's up to us*- but they can help us understand morality and how best to make the change we want to see in the world.
Dogma, whether secular or religious, offers no justification and rejects investigation. Literally useless. Many moral philosophers have been religious, and done good work despite struggling under dogma. Or suffered consequences for pointing out logical issues with it.
Quantify whether science has caused more harm than good.
@@Rolan7196 Dogma and axioms are pretty much one and the same. Both unjustified assertions. And you still need them. Without them you can do nothing. Most philosophical dogma statements are things like you shouldn't hurt other people solely for amusement and that sort of thing.
The only way I know of to avoid axioms is circular reasoning, but I'll side with the academic community and favor axioms over that.
When they get pushed off their talking points they have zero thoughts or answers painfully indicated by the deafening silence
Okay, just got to the bad part. Bob is a monster. He should be locked up with the other pedos.
@@the_eaglefan You can tell Forrest was not ready for him to just happily step on that landmine. He's been dodging and dodging the whole interview and then suddenly decides to give the thumbs up to one of the most reprehensible crimes possible.
Jeffery Epstein and his party buddy Donald Trump would have loved this guy, birds of a feather.
Trump never visited the Island. But Bill Clinton and Bill Gates did
On behalf of everyone who lives here in the UK i wholeheartedly apologise for Bob. He doesn’t represent everyone who lives here!! He has been failed by our school system.
According to UNICEF, a child is anyone below the age of 18. There, simple.
Well that took an absolutely vile turn... I'm gonna go ahead and second Forrest's "FUCK YOU BOB"
Gloves came off instantly there, of all the things to finally start giving straighter answers on that was one hell of a pick 😬
Semen coming from the back, the genies, the incorruptible corpse of Muhammad, and I can understand frogs if I eat the correct mushrooms 😂
Mohammad flew on a winged horse and split the moon in twine with a sword.
I'll accept the last one. I've eaten the "correct" mushrooms before, LOL
@@michaelmay5453And he did blindfolded.
@@michaelmay5453 I mean if you could just invoke a deity to slash the moon in half you don't even need the horse and sword. It's like the ultimate jojo stand.
It would be an effective way to scare people I guess. "Oh yeah my boss can cut the moon in half, you didn't see it because you were asleep".
I mean, the mushroom part is pretty cool. And genies are pretty sick. I don’t think the stuff in this book is real, but some of the chapters do sound kinda rad.
This caller is a prime example of how religion rots people's brains.
The answer Bob gave to that last question was utterly disgusting, and im actually shocked.
"I understand your question"...
I seriously doubt that.
The fact these people are living in the UK is terrifying
Sh. You’re not allowed to mention the flaws Islam in the UK. Ignore the gangs of Pakistani human trafficking. Pointing that out is Islamophobic and racist.
They live everywhere. Have you seen the evangelicals in the US? Not Muslim, but it's the same and they want to force their version of Sharia on the rest of us.
This guy has been on before. And he was an arse that time too.
Bob the arse cheek
The Quran may or may not say that the flood was global, but it's reasonable to ask why EVERY animal needed to be on the ark, including non-native animals.
As knives go, Bob is about as sharp as a football
What awful situation did god put people in during the "pre-existence" that would make them choose to come here where awful thing are definitely going to happen to them?
No matter how people try to apologize for god, he just ends up looking monstrous.
It took that long because he had to go outside to look to see the shape of the earth.
This guy get s a GOLD Medal in "Mental Gymnastics".
44:08 through the rest really just shows me how awful Bob is. And to make sure there is no misunderstanding, 50:44 gives no room for error in hearing what Bob believes. 😡
This was the most disgusting thing I ever heard
@@eliaspoulogiannis I agree. 🤮🤬
Thank you for posting the time frames.
the moon spliting half it would not be a miracle it would be a Roland Emmerich film
Or Michael Bay.
“Bob, Tell us why you’re going to make bad arguments”
Bob - I’m a Muslim..
“Goodbye Bob”
"Where do you think he get this things from?" you tell us Bob. You're the one making a claim!
It’s so frustrating when people just talk in circles and ignore all the logic of the argument they are presented. You lay out every logic step of an argument and then when you get to the last step to make the only logical conclusion, they just repeat their original assertion as if the conversation never happened. This happens so often when arguing with idiots
It’s a requirement if you want to belong to a religious organisation.
He was trying to do the conservative-libertarian argument of "It's not PDF, it's hebephilia," argument. As if that ever helps anyone get passed the glaring issue.
If an answer to the question “what shape is the world” is met with 30 seconds of thinking before an answer of “it’s round, innit” … do not expect an intellectual battle of wits
I never understood how all these Abrahamic religions arguing whose god is the creator of the world when there are other cultures out there. As an Eastern Asian, we have a rich history that's recorded in detail for THOUSANDS of years, and we don't adhere to any of those gods. Are we..... not a part of this world?
Nope!
You guys didn't even drowned in the flood as god commanded! If don't play along, you get ignored!
@@vertigo4236 =[ *sad*
When Forrest said "Shut the fuck up, Bob" I felt that
27:41 Harry potter fulfillment of his prophecy means it’s real 😂
Plus since Harry Potter lives in England, which is a real place, it's REAL. yay.
@@ffsno9078 Spider-man has entered the chat!
Special pleading should be taught every school year so that kids can see the structure of the lie being told to them.
Some guy got stoned and saw ants making words 😅😪
Is Bob saying no one can memorize a made-up story? That's just silly. I guarantee you there are many people that have memorized Star Wars. Therefore, according to Bob, Luke Skywalker really did defeat Emperor Palpatine and save Darth Vader in a galaxy far, far away, a long time ago. Also, according to Bob, something being on UA-cam is a notch in the belt for it's credibility. 😂 Oh boy...
My great-grandfather memorized our country’s epic poem, “Os Lusíadas”; that’s 8816 verses of 16th century Portuguese. Very much fiction, it even has the Roman gods as intervening characters.
I kind of accidently memorised most of Discworld by reading it so often.
So I'm off to be a Wizzard!
@@Virtualbluearta worthy use of accidental memory indeed!
Watch out for the B.S. Johnson contraptions there at UU!😅
Grown adults should have learned to question the authenticity of any claims that are made in the absence of supporting evidence. The same thing should apply to religious claims. When religions demand beliefs in extraordinary supernatural claims, without providing a shred of supporting evidence, adults have good reason to question the authenticity of those claims.
The Outsiders test reliability to push theist into special pleading fallacious excuses is amazing.
Thankyou Loftus
*_Deep In A God Bubble_** ;*
There is no such thing as a people, that cannot make up God myths.
You would never accept this kind of testimony, for miracle claims, from other religions.
I'm scared that i live in the country as this man with how he views kids
Holy wow. I was not ready for the sudden turn at the end wth someone look into this guys internet history
Bob: “I’m no expert…”
Forrest: [speech bubble] “No shit”
Religion is a concerning implementation of cognitive dissonance.
So people signed a social contract to come to this world therefore the suffering is contractually justified. At least Christianity had the foresight to create demons to blame bad stuff on.
Clearly, the Earth is Muslim-shaped. I'm surprised Forrest didn't know that already ROFLMAO
I thought all the world was biscuit shaped and it's just for me to feed my face.
And I can see, hear, smell touch taste.
On behalf of rational, secular Brits... We're sorry about Bob.
How do you leave a conversation like this not thinking these people are scum!
Wow, this is the worst Bob I know.
The dude from the Enzyte commercials would never
I was going to make a joke referencing Grade A Under A, but then that bit at the end came around and kind of knocked the gusto out of me.
You know it's going to be interesting when he's stumped by the question, "What shape is the Earth?"
I just looked up "scientists confirm quran" on youtube and wow Im absolutely convinced and of you could hear me so say aloud you totally wouldn't tell me I was overdoing the sarcasm
You certainly don’t sound sarcastic to me, and I should know being British
I have a hunch it would be fun if Forrest checked it out and did a video "reviewing" the video.
Iirc some of the people in the conference have actually published scientific papers that were peer reviewed. (You just have to ignore the fact they had to take out all the Quran was right stuff yo have it published)
I feel like I need to see why even got put into the peer review XD
Is there any way that we can submit this call to the FBI can get Bob placed on some kind of watchlist?
People like Bob make me sick to my stomach.
Imagine being so awful that you were almost responsible for Forests first bad day.
"What shape is the earth, Bob?"
"Errrm...................."
Bye, bye, Bob.
Reading this, Bob?
Bye, bye....
Sounds like Ray Comfort
Sounds like Southern Comfort 😂
superstition - noun
1a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation
b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition
2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary
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