I believe there was a horde side quest on northrend where a forsaken was trying to make a poison or something, and was using a paladin as a test subject, and when the paladin drunk it ate it or something, nothing happened to him, then in his frustration the undead threw the poison at his assistant who was also an undead, and he melted into goo. That was such an interesting quest, i still remember it.
The Light has some similarities with the Force from Star Wars. Some individuals are more in tune with the Light than others and they usually become paladins or priests. But to most people the Light is a philosophy.
I really think it is interesting on how the Holy Light follows a being as long they fully believe in it, but they may not be doing the morally right things. You pretty much in that one sentence completely summed up the Scarlet Crusade.
Velen, Azeroth's greatest ambassador. "Hey orcs! Ya know that thing you worship? Ya no, that's our God, not yours. Hey tyrande! Ya know that goddess you've devoted your life to? Haha, funny thing, that's our God! We call all be buddies now right?"
Tholos Well,he was right with the orcs,i think he is just telling the true and i would love to see Tyrande´s face if we (The Horde) found "Elune" and extract her light 3:)
Gairos yes they were and velen told them waht it actually is and they got mad because it didnt fit their imagination, sp orcs act basically like Humans.
That's weird considering that Arthas, who believed in what he was doing was right, lost the light when he was slaughtering the city. Book or that section redcon by chance??
Its nice to wake up really early in the morning(for no aparent reason, I just woke up, its 6:00am) and get greeted by a fresh video by Doron :D! Now... Back to sleep...
Key thing people forget is that Faith is the strongest form of willpower there is, it would be better to say that your ability is relevant to your willpower, and that the light becomes easier to use the stronger that willpower is, and faith is the strongest form of that willpower, hence why it is in most cases regarded as a religion
Using all this information how did Arthas lose the light? He Believed fully in what he was doing until the end except for the whole still loving Jaina thing. The Forsaken can use it so why not a Lich?
Great lore video. It is shame how Blizzard just makes silly excuses to make more race/class combinations. I liked vanilla concept more, with paladins only alliance and shamans only horde. Gave speciality to ceratin fraction. Now, it is just same.
minecraftcreeperpoop I know. But they could work on it, to make it more ballanced. Afterall, half of specs have been useless and they made them viable, in time.
Honestly some races do make sense. Wildhammer dwarves have been shamanistic and the nature people forever and also the blood elves have practiced the Light before and now they got the Blood Knights at the time of the Burning Crusade.
Thanks, was worried at first since I use to get copyright infringment on the in game cinematics like the Dark Star but it worked. Otherwise I would have to lower the quality and re-render. I've noticed that the videos look a bit better with the mix of the blizzard cinematics and my own footage, as it isn't really easy to replicate the same quality that blizzard does.
Doron do you think if anyone can use the light do you think death knights could be retrained into paladins or priests if they believed hard enough in their cause? Despite the fact it would hurt them because they are undead.
Alec Grant no it would "kill" them. Contact with light magic hurts the undead because it fades away the dark magic that is keeping the soul inside the body, this magic works also as a buffer between sould and body which is the reason undead dont feel emotions and pain. The light removes this buffer causing an overreaction of pain, if that process would be continued and extended it could cause the dark magic to be to weak to keep the soul inside anymore which would cause the body to drop dead.
In my circle of roleplayers we say that the Light is goodness and because everyone possesses the capability of being good it connects us to everyone and everything. Following the three virtues Respect, Tenacity and Compassion serve to strengthen those bonds bringing us and the people we affect closer to the Light.
I agree humans have the potential to do or became good. But unfortunately all of us are affected, one way or the other, by sin. (Romans 3:23) There's a doctrine called "total depravity" in some Churches. It says that we cannot do anything good without God, for He is the source of goodness. I haven't studied much about it because I do not agree with certain doctrines, but in any case it's best to study the Bible and ask God for wisdom and discerniment.
I wonder if Twilight magic (which is presumably the Old God magic of the Void branch) is a form of Light magic. Like the Light, Twilight is a divine magic that manifests as a light.
My human hunter is the creator of an organization named "The New Inquisition", who are a group of monster's hunters, bringing justice to the world in the name of the Light. Is that good for a Roleplaying base ?
The Light is not dependent on how strong a person believes in their cause. The Light certainly does choose sides but can be wielded by most races despite that, the Light only becomes unuwieldable when utterly rejected. That's in line with what you say even here.
Thanks for the idea. I haven't covered him before, so I will do a lore video on him at some point although not as the last one as I will be doing one about the runic magic.
Devon Brown His devotion to the Light starts during the Shattering novel, and later on develops during Wolfheart and other newer novels and short stories. You can also find some information from wrathion and his dialogs.
Well what about Arthas and how the light abandoned him for purging Stratholme.I mean didn't he fully believe that purging the city was the right thing to do, he even fired Uther, his best friend and Jaina, his was going to be future wife.
Kuba CoCięToObchodzi Oh, the Gronns, yeah, those are big by nature, they are descendants of the Mighty Gruul, the Dragonslayer, or maybe those skeletons are the ancestors of Gruul, those beats have little lore from where they came from, all we know is that they where there, on Draenor, since the beggining, they've been retconed to fight the plant life of Draenor.
Elune is Cenarius' mother, but we dont know if Naaru reproduce, and since the Warcraft universe is so fucked up, with aliens having babies with other aliens and inter-racial babies in Azeroth, we can asume that the once Night Elf called Elune could had a baby with the ancient of nature, also, its speculated that she ascended to become the Goddess, she could have done what Velen did, and sacrifice herself to purify a Naaru, who she merged with.
Yukine Chris loas in wow are dead trolls that rose to a higher power in death the nelfs came from the troll race but Elune is said to be a nelf herself which would suggest she was once a troll loa who led her ppl to the well of eternity not only her troll tribe but she herself was transformed by the powerful waters....and had sexy times with a dear but that isn't really important to the argument.
shamanism and arcane are pretty much the best non discriminating non malicious magics. either wield it or make a deal with spirits. no blind devotion or corrupted souls
![The Light (and Shadow) in World of Warcraft [Lore]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/e1GZBEGSfCo/mqdefault.jpg)
I believe there was a horde side quest on northrend where a forsaken was trying to make a poison or something, and was using a paladin as a test subject, and when the paladin drunk it ate it or something, nothing happened to him, then in his frustration the undead threw the poison at his assistant who was also an undead, and he melted into goo. That was such an interesting quest, i still remember it.
The Light has some similarities with the Force from Star Wars. Some individuals are more in tune with the Light than others and they usually become paladins or priests. But to most people the Light is a philosophy.
Arthas is basically Darth Vader....
I'd say its more like a green latern ring. You have to know about it and thus have faith in it. You don't have to know about the force to weild it.
Actually, it is heavily based on the Game of Thrones books.
I really think it is interesting on how the Holy Light follows a being as long they fully believe in it, but they may not be doing the morally right things. You pretty much in that one sentence completely summed up the Scarlet Crusade.
Velen, Azeroth's greatest ambassador. "Hey orcs! Ya know that thing you worship? Ya no, that's our God, not yours. Hey tyrande! Ya know that goddess you've devoted your life to? Haha, funny thing, that's our God! We call all be buddies now right?"
Lol, never thought about it, Velen is a bit of a prick, ruining the fun for all of the races across the universe. :D
Tholos Well,he was right with the orcs,i think he is just telling the true and i would love to see Tyrande´s face if we (The Horde) found "Elune" and extract her light 3:)
Tholos hes just beeing honest, the orcs were worshipping his god.
Gairos
yes they were and velen told them waht it actually is and they got mad because it didnt fit their imagination, sp orcs act basically like Humans.
That's weird considering that Arthas, who believed in what he was doing was right, lost the light when he was slaughtering the city. Book or that section redcon by chance??
Its nice to wake up really early in the morning(for no aparent reason, I just woke up, its 6:00am) and get greeted by a fresh video by Doron :D! Now... Back to sleep...
You've helped me so much with my Moon Guard RP with a hardcore Military RP style Guild I'm in.
This answered a few of the questions I had about The Light, thanks.
Glad it helped you. :)
Key thing people forget is that Faith is the strongest form of willpower there is, it would be better to say that your ability is relevant to your willpower, and that the light becomes easier to use the stronger that willpower is, and faith is the strongest form of that willpower, hence why it is in most cases regarded as a religion
Using all this information how did Arthas lose the light?
He Believed fully in what he was doing until the end except for the whole still loving Jaina thing.
The Forsaken can use it so why not a Lich?
I believe he started doubting himself since purge of Stratholme.
Doronsmovies
I guess having another voice in your head can make you loose focus
Arthas became corrupted by Ner’zhul and Frostmourne.
@@Litany_of_Fury it was after grabbing frostmourne he became to hard voices
The Light never abandons it’s champions
Another awesome vid! I never really knew what the light was until now. Answered lost of questions. Thanks!
Great video man, really enjoyed watching it while eating Breakfast.
Great lore video.
It is shame how Blizzard just makes silly excuses to make more race/class combinations. I liked vanilla concept more, with paladins only alliance and shamans only horde. Gave speciality to ceratin fraction. Now, it is just same.
minecraftcreeperpoop I know. But they could work on it, to make it more ballanced. Afterall, half of specs have been useless and they made them viable, in time.
Honestly some races do make sense. Wildhammer dwarves have been shamanistic and the nature people forever and also the blood elves have practiced the Light before and now they got the Blood Knights at the time of the Burning Crusade.
Another great video. your cinematic work really is outstanding.
Thanks, was worried at first since I use to get copyright infringment on the in game cinematics like the Dark Star but it worked. Otherwise I would have to lower the quality and re-render. I've noticed that the videos look a bit better with the mix of the blizzard cinematics and my own footage, as it isn't really easy to replicate the same quality that blizzard does.
Doronsmovies It looks really good mane.
Doron you are the best, where is the paladin RP guide though?
It was supposed to come out this week but since I'm doing the lore lessons I will most likely do it next week.
Doron do you think if anyone can use the light do you think death knights could be retrained into paladins or priests if they believed hard enough in their cause? Despite the fact it would hurt them because they are undead.
Alec Grant no it would "kill" them. Contact with light magic hurts the undead because it fades away the dark magic that is keeping the soul inside the body, this magic works also as a buffer between sould and body which is the reason undead dont feel emotions and pain. The light removes this buffer causing an overreaction of pain, if that process would be continued and extended it could cause the dark magic to be to weak to keep the soul inside anymore which would cause the body to drop dead.
Franz Ferdinand except that we see forsaken use the light
Originally the holy light was supposed to represent God but people complained so they changed it.
This was very interesting. Can't wait to see your next video! :)
Thanks. :)
oh you are still around pukki! awesome :3 prkl
daSkyyy Yes :). Hello there.
Didn't some of the humans also called the light "God" in some point in lore?
Talendril Silverleaf Only on the first game when the lore was still up in the air.
Thanks dude, was looking around for something like this. About to try my first RP toon.
In my circle of roleplayers we say that the Light is goodness and because everyone possesses the capability of being good it connects us to everyone and everything. Following the three virtues Respect, Tenacity and Compassion serve to strengthen those bonds bringing us and the people we affect closer to the Light.
I agree humans have the potential to do or became good. But unfortunately all of us are affected, one way or the other, by sin. (Romans 3:23)
There's a doctrine called "total depravity" in some Churches. It says that we cannot do anything good without God, for He is the source of goodness. I haven't studied much about it because I do not agree with certain doctrines, but in any case it's best to study the Bible and ask God for wisdom and discerniment.
Can you do one about "the mist" ?
I wonder if Twilight magic (which is presumably the Old God magic of the Void branch) is a form of Light magic. Like the Light, Twilight is a divine magic that manifests as a light.
Cool video. Please do a lore about shadow. Shadow is the most interesting lore wise
My human hunter is the creator of an organization named "The New Inquisition", who are a group of monster's hunters, bringing justice to the world in the name of the Light.
Is that good for a Roleplaying base ?
The Light is not dependent on how strong a person believes in their cause. The Light certainly does choose sides but can be wielded by most races despite that, the Light only becomes unuwieldable when utterly rejected. That's in line with what you say even here.
you've been doing great keeping to your word posting lore lessons every day! keep up the great work =D
Thanks, one left to finish off the week. Didn't want to promise stuff I couldn't do. :D
I understand you might be busy with lore videos but I was curious if there will be an (in the future) Anduin lore video?
Thanks for the idea. I haven't covered him before, so I will do a lore video on him at some point although not as the last one as I will be doing one about the runic magic.
Doronsmovies Mostly I wasn't certain where to find anduin's prophecy. :P
Devon Brown His devotion to the Light starts during the Shattering novel, and later on develops during Wolfheart and other newer novels and short stories. You can also find some information from wrathion and his dialogs.
Doronsmovies Thanks.
Well what about Arthas and how the light abandoned him for purging Stratholme.I mean didn't he fully believe that purging the city was the right thing to do, he even fired Uther, his best friend and Jaina, his was going to be future wife.
There's some other person besides Turalyon, Kost and Mograine who has used the light to force a prisoner to tell the truth?
Just came for some “light” lore ;D
Dorons i have a question who are these colossuses such as grom gal
Grom gal? Where in Azeroth/Draenor are this guys located?
It's located in frostfire ridge on draenor
Kuba CoCięToObchodzi Oh, the Gronns, yeah, those are big by nature, they are descendants of the Mighty Gruul, the Dragonslayer, or maybe those skeletons are the ancestors of Gruul, those beats have little lore from where they came from, all we know is that they where there, on Draenor, since the beggining, they've been retconed to fight the plant life of Draenor.
I dont think that Elune is a naaru because didnt she give Cenarius his powers? You cant have a Demigod without a god.
Elune is Cenarius' mother, but we dont know if Naaru reproduce, and since the Warcraft universe is so fucked up, with aliens having babies with other aliens and inter-racial babies in Azeroth, we can asume that the once Night Elf called Elune could had a baby with the ancient of nature, also, its speculated that she ascended to become the Goddess, she could have done what Velen did, and sacrifice herself to purify a Naaru, who she merged with.
***** I think Elune is actually a purified loa while there are similarities with the naaru there are better similarities between Elune and loas.
AzurenGamer
Elune was once a mortal that became a goddes, its closer to a Naaru than a Loa, people cant just turn into Loas.
Yukine Chris loas in wow are dead trolls that rose to a higher power in death the nelfs came from the troll race but Elune is said to be a nelf herself which would suggest she was once a troll loa who led her ppl to the well of eternity not only her troll tribe but she herself was transformed by the powerful waters....and had sexy times with a dear but that isn't really important to the argument.
The Naruu are like the simplified vessels of the light, but I still belive Elune is no Naruu smh
is that arthas in 02:35
I THINK uther
Make a video on Void.
Do you have any plans on a rp guide for monks, more specifically, non panderen monks?
Yup, will be covering all of the classes at some point.
2 People worship the shadows
Can you see the Light?
shamanism and arcane are pretty much the best non discriminating non malicious magics. either wield it or make a deal with spirits. no blind devotion or corrupted souls
Arcane does corrupt souls
+Life Tapper true but it does so indiscriminatly and only to those who are shit at introspection
Arcane makes you arrogant not corrupted
If only the light was real
And if it was?
oh Ya if I lived on Azeroth I'd be a disc priest no doubt
I’d rather be a mage
I really just wanted to know WHO the light was
Read the Bible and you'll get the answer! 👍
What a flashy Lore lesson.
...Nope. God awful. Anyways good work on the Lore Lesson Doron, great week.
Your puns are getting worse by the day. :D
I think that's my goal for the week on your videos.
Jesus is the light aka pally and priest
too bad the prophet didn't see anduin become the mmost boring villain ever's butt-puppet
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