You might not think that in a few years time when Young would have been a free agent and getting godfather offers from Tasmania and desperate Victorian clubs.
@tb7667 don't get me wrong I am over the moon that youngy signed till 2033 because of the absolute gun he is and the type of player he is. However with contract extensions kane is right I think they're should be 4-5 year contract extensions maximum at a time. Coming from the US it is very odd here that they do contract extensions like that and another one is teams losing on purpose to tank to the bottom and get high draft picks.......weagles. Another one that shouldn't happen is allowing big games to end in a draw which is the stupidest thing ever. They had to change it back in 2010 because of the grand final draw and it costed St Kilda a premiership and wasted fans money. They should add on 5 minutes intervals of extra time and not allow games to end in a tie. Whoever has the most after extra time wins. Simple
Clubs just need to grow a pair. When you sit a player down to sign a contract you make it crystal clear they're getting the safety net of money, but they're giving up the power and clubs will always put the club first. Then when they start to whinge and complain the club can look them in the eye and say you signed what you signed. I get the agents, sponsorships etc all play a part but at the end of the day clubs need to stand their ground. You signed the deal, get the other club to pay overs to our liking or you're staying.
Not really, we can estimate and speculate but the point of the discussions mostly are about the length of the contracts or the issues surrounding players going into long contracts. Hayden Young was already contracted and then they sign him until 2032.
@@vigour6786 we can estimate and speculate, but unless we actually know the whole discussion is pointless as by 2028 Freo might be paying him half of what he could get if he was a free agent.
@@tb7667 your entire argument is pointless because the same could be said from the other side, they could be paying him more than what he’s worth at that time too. He could have a career changing injury within that time.
@@vigour6786 that’s called risk and reward, it is fairly common in business. My point is we are discussing the merits of a contract where we don’t know the most important piece of information.
@@tb7667 exactly, risk and reward. Risk is you’ll be stuck paying out the next 7 years on a contract for a player who can’t play anymore. Reward is slightly better salary cap. The risk outweighs the reward by a lot.
100% agree on setting expectations on North winning games. 8 is my bar. The recruitment of mature players is a strong sign that this is the clubs internal intent even if they will trot out the "wins and losses is not the main measure of success for us"...
Wait, how does Kane not understand that you absolutely recalibrate your expectations based on teams recent results. Yeah, don't give them a pass, but you should still predominantly review recent accomplishments
Harrison Petty was a good forward before his injury, but after he missed a critical goal against the team he cried against this year, his forward days were over.
As a long suffering diehard Freo fan I think Kane might be selling Hayden Young a little short. 8 years is a long contract extension but this guys' ability to switch play with his kicking,(and long kicking),is as good as any in the comp.
Disagree. He's a great player for Freo but I wouldn't have him as a key player at Freo. He does his job and plays well which is expected but he won't make or break a game by his own boot.
The old contracts were too short and now they are getting too long. The problem with the free agency and the out of contract model is that the big clubs can buy the star players so you have to over pay players and then underpay others to avoid getting into a list loss position. It's easy to manage the salary cap when you have big corporates that can offer extra benefits. Some points system needs to come into play for buying clubs before it gets to a point where it is way out of hand and too far to pull back. Young is an outstanding player so a 5 year - 6 year contract would not be unreasonable. More than that is impractical.
Ha come on this the same people that thought petty was going to be a good forward the year before when Adelaide where going to give them picks up as a Melbourne supporter I would rather see him down back
who cares about long contracts being signed , when in five minutes after signing a five year deal you could be at another club. irrelevant conversation.
LMAO Hope Robbo has squirreled away his savings and not drunk it all, not sure if many people are going to be tuning into his drunk tosser podcast if thats what he decides to do.
Same garbage different year ..talks about the same stuff very one dimenisal ....boring once you hear what he is trying to do and say you see right through him he will be on SBS calling soccer soon...
Who else is happy to have these back? Great listen
I love listening to these, I love anything football related!
Not even 2 minutes in and Kane’s already asking which coach will be sacked first - classic lol
Anyone say Hinkley and he will start trying to save him
The bloke is shameless.
Great to be back Kano
Lmao,he's a biased hypocrite, everyone knows it, EVERYONE,he's renowned for it
@ sounds like you’ve been Korned a few times mate
So glad this is back
Bring on Fireball Friday with Kingy!
Kane is actually right about long contracts and i am a diehard freo fan
You might not think that in a few years time when Young would have been a free agent and getting godfather offers from Tasmania and desperate Victorian clubs.
@tb7667 don't get me wrong I am over the moon that youngy signed till 2033 because of the absolute gun he is and the type of player he is. However with contract extensions kane is right I think they're should be 4-5 year contract extensions maximum at a time. Coming from the US it is very odd here that they do contract extensions like that and another one is teams losing on purpose to tank to the bottom and get high draft picks.......weagles. Another one that shouldn't happen is allowing big games to end in a draw which is the stupidest thing ever. They had to change it back in 2010 because of the grand final draw and it costed St Kilda a premiership and wasted fans money. They should add on 5 minutes intervals of extra time and not allow games to end in a tie. Whoever has the most after extra time wins. Simple
Kane's right about Darcy... He would have a massive pay check if he left the dogs.
Hopefully he does leave them and doesn't stay just because of his old man
nothing about Noah Balta's suspension? Did the afl and Richmond give sen the hush?
The two best broadcasters on SEN
good to have kane back
Love you Kane pumped to have you back 🌋🌋
Durham has almost taken some serious hangers already in afl games, I tweeted like 2 years ago that he will take mark of the year one day
Clubs just need to grow a pair. When you sit a player down to sign a contract you make it crystal clear they're getting the safety net of money, but they're giving up the power and clubs will always put the club first.
Then when they start to whinge and complain the club can look them in the eye and say you signed what you signed.
I get the agents, sponsorships etc all play a part but at the end of the day clubs need to stand their ground. You signed the deal, get the other club to pay overs to our liking or you're staying.
2025 prediction is for Kane to continue being correct at all times and actually having an opinion
2025 prediction,Kane to try save Hinkleys job again after 13 years and achieved nothing
What beverages you putting down in this clip Kane? Can’t imagine you punching down Solo’s in the morning?
The contract discussion is so pointless when we don't know what players get paid.
Not really, we can estimate and speculate but the point of the discussions mostly are about the length of the contracts or the issues surrounding players going into long contracts. Hayden Young was already contracted and then they sign him until 2032.
@@vigour6786 we can estimate and speculate, but unless we actually know the whole discussion is pointless as by 2028 Freo might be paying him half of what he could get if he was a free agent.
@@tb7667 your entire argument is pointless because the same could be said from the other side, they could be paying him more than what he’s worth at that time too. He could have a career changing injury within that time.
@@vigour6786 that’s called risk and reward, it is fairly common in business. My point is we are discussing the merits of a contract where we don’t know the most important piece of information.
@@tb7667 exactly, risk and reward. Risk is you’ll be stuck paying out the next 7 years on a contract for a player who can’t play anymore. Reward is slightly better salary cap. The risk outweighs the reward by a lot.
Might as well start footy now, crickets done.
Welcome back lads
100% agree on setting expectations on North winning games. 8 is my bar. The recruitment of mature players is a strong sign that this is the clubs internal intent even if they will trot out the "wins and losses is not the main measure of success for us"...
Hey SEN, is there any reason why the full show podcast isn't on spotify?
Bring on the footy
Wait, how does Kane not understand that you absolutely recalibrate your expectations based on teams recent results. Yeah, don't give them a pass, but you should still predominantly review recent accomplishments
Harrison Petty was a good forward before his injury, but after he missed a critical goal against the team he cried against this year, his forward days were over.
As a long suffering diehard Freo fan I think Kane might be selling Hayden Young a little short. 8 years is a long contract extension but this guys' ability to switch play with his kicking,(and long kicking),is as good as any in the comp.
Disagree. He's a great player for Freo but I wouldn't have him as a key player at Freo. He does his job and plays well which is expected but he won't make or break a game by his own boot.
@vigour6786😂
The old contracts were too short and now they are getting too long. The problem with the free agency and the out of contract model is that the big clubs can buy the star players so you have to over pay players and then underpay others to avoid getting into a list loss position. It's easy to manage the salary cap when you have big corporates that can offer extra benefits. Some points system needs to come into play for buying clubs before it gets to a point where it is way out of hand and too far to pull back. Young is an outstanding player so a 5 year - 6 year contract would not be unreasonable. More than that is impractical.
Sam Durham is very good he just needs to believe in himself honestly.
Cornes ,Longmire has handed himself so well.
Cornes, Hinkley needs more time (13 yrs)
Youngy a Docker for life 🎉 Neal leaving freo hurt 😢
Who care about Lachie Neale mate, it’s done and he’s moved on years ago.
Kaneo. Jezza Cameron gets replaced by Jesse Hogan and the club saves a ton of bank. That's not a loss.
What are you on about
Ha come on this the same people that thought petty was going to be a good forward the year before when Adelaide where going to give them picks up as a Melbourne supporter I would rather see him down back
Ahhh im fiending football content 💉
And on the fifth day God said "Let NO woman replace Robbo"
Thank God Morris is gone
Kane salty over Young 😂
who cares about long contracts being signed , when in five minutes after signing a five year deal you could be at another club. irrelevant conversation.
LMAO Hope Robbo has squirreled away his savings and not drunk it all, not sure if many people are going to be tuning into his drunk tosser podcast if thats what he decides to do.
It's January you chumps... Can't find any other Topix to talk about???
Is Kane homeless?
Same garbage different year ..talks about the same stuff very one dimenisal ....boring once you hear what he is trying to do and say you see right through him he will be on SBS calling soccer soon...