CNC Plasma table - P4 - Wiring, floating head (no THC), torch relay (Mach3, SheetCam) - 1st cuts
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- Опубліковано 2 гру 2024
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Link to 3D CAD design:
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In this video, I finished my CNC plasma table build with the wiring, setting up the floating head (I don't have the torch height control - aka THC) and torch relay (make the plasma cutter CNC compatible without modifying the torch or the plasma cutter itself). I also added a spring setup to create a pressure for the floating head without adding too much more weight to the Z axis and redesign the torch holder.
The wiring was easy, the configurations with Mach3 and SheetCam were a breeze. All the functions worked correctly.
Since I don't have any experience with this type of equipment yet, the first cuts were kinda ugly. I will need to spend more time to figure out all the parameters needed for some clean cutting in the future.
Link to buy:
Plasma cutter cut50:
www.ebay.com/i...
P80 straight torch:
www.ebay.com/i...
2 pin connector (fit cut50 plasma cutter):
www.ebay.com/i...
great work! Love your process and never give up attitude. Going to try this myself, thanks for paving the way for us DIY'ers to make it possible.
My guy ! You just showed me how to setup my floating head in 10 minutes. You saved me hours of reading on forums. Subscribed !
Mind blowing! With relatively cheap elements you managed to make this work! Congrats Minh! Smart design, excellent methodology, pretty good pedagogy... Impressive.
(FR) Mec! Tu es intelligent! J'attendais depuis des semaines en allant sur aliexpress et ebay pour voir quelle "tête" tu allais pouvoir utiliser sur cette machine... Incroyable 30$! Non seulement on regarde ta video avec attention comme une "bonne" série (excuse la comparaison) mais ta pédagogie et ton pragmatisme font de ta chaîne plus qu'un dépôt de tutoriels, une VRAIE MINE D'OR! Tout y est détaillé: tes choix, les modifs et leur raison etc... Je suis heureux sans aucune flatterie, d'avoir croisé ta chaîne! Merci Minh! Je suis certain et impatient de voir que tu vas régler la vitesse et le feed de ton plasma. Impressionnant. L'imagination n'aura plus de frein. Whoah! Le plasma "bouffe" et fait presque fondre l'alu... Il y a de l'énergie sous le capot! ça promet! Can't wait! Prends soin de toi mon ami!
Thank you my friend! Cheap is my number one rule in the designing process for I'm like most of people in the world - poor :D.
(FR) J'ai fait pas mal de recherches avant de commencer ce projet avec le plasma cutter. J'ai vu aussi bcp de machine qui utilise la tete droite et ca aussi facilite le design. Une fois finir les ajustements, c'est vraiment utile d'avoir une table plasma CNC. Je pourrais construire d'autres machines avec des pieces metalliques.
Sur un autre sujet, j'espere que tout va bien chez toi avec le Covid-19. Chez nous, on doit rester a la maison toute la journee. On sort seulement quand c'est vraiment necessaire. Mes enfants ne vont pas a l'ecole pour aumoins les deux prochaine semaines.
Prends de toi et ta famille aussi mon ami!
@@minhsmancave9448 Agree! I'm poor too ;)
(FR) Oui, s'agissant du covid19, on est dans la partie la plus touchée de france. Comme nous tenons à notre vie et que chacun reste vivant et en bonne santé que possible, on se plie aux recommandations du gouvernement. Ça fait 5 jours qu'on est confinés à la maison. Mais ;) personnellement je n'ai pas le temps de m'ennuyer entre fusion360 et mes projets 3Dprinting et autres, j'ai de quoi m'occuper comme toujours ;) J'ai pitié des gens qui s'ennuient. Merci pour tes voeux de santé et je te les retourne aussi pour tes bien-aimés. Quelques jours bloqués chez soi, ce n'est pas la fin du monde mon ami.
Pour revenir à cette machine à plasma, j'imagine que tu nous feras bientôt une démo sur de l'acier... l'énérgie visible sur l'alu peut faire espérer une efficacité pour l'acier. Et quand ça marchera, tu n'auras plus à attendre la livraison de Chine pour certaines pièces usinables chez toi. Pretty cool. En tout cas, pour le design de tes meubles, tu as tout sous la main désormais. Je t'envie. Allez! Prépare-nous une belle démo mon ami! Ciao!
Saludos desde Colombia, como siempre son muy bien explicados tus videos, grande trabajo y espero que sigas haciendo este gran aporte para todos aquellos inmersos en el mundo del CNC
Great job explaining how and what you done , awesome
Felicitaciones, eres genial maestro, se prende mucho de ti, gracias por compartir tu conocimiento y experiencia.
1-Anh Minh muốn cắt đẹp thì nên thiết lập trong sheetcam có phần điểm mồi đánh lửa, nó sẽ đánh lửa đột lỗ ở ngoài sau đó mới lượn vòng vào phần mình cắt. Em thấy phần thiết lập của anh chưa có "điểm đột lỗ mồi" 2- Em cảm giác anh để khí hơi bé nên khí không thổi bay hết ra ngoài, dẫn đến đường cắt bị ba vớ. Khi cắt plasma anh để khí tầm 5kg là ổn.
Cảm ơn bạn, đây là lần thử đầu tiên nên mình cũng chưa có kính nghiệm. Mình cũng có để cắt lỗ ở ngoài và đi vòng vào nhưng khoảng vòng ngắn, nhìn không rõ. Sau lần thử đấy máy nén khí đang bị hỏng nên và đang chờ thiết bị thay nên cũng chưa thử lại được. Về phần plasma thì mình mới bắt đầu nên còn phải tìm hiểu và thử nhiều lần.
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Man Good Job.! But I still Have doubts in that Probing Section..! Please help!
So the M3 Command will turn on the torch right?
But How the probing is done by the limit switch..!? I am still confused!
Please clarify the Z home pin and Probe pin intentions..!
I still have no clear idea about how the controller starts the arc after probing and triggering that limit switch
Thanks
Very interesting, thanks for sharing !
hello friend, I have had problems generating the g code, this error is driving me crazy, when exporting only a few lines of code come out and when simulating from SheetCam the following error appears "attention: warning: feed rate is zero post processed completed with 1 alerts ". I'd appreciate your help.
you did a great job man
How did you set up your floating head z? Switch in mach 3
Very nice design. Aliminum is hard to cut perfectly, wanna see you next parameters setup. Thanks for sharing!
Thank-you for sharing your great project ! ;)
Hello sir
I use your method to connect chines thc with my mach3 plasma it work wonder thanks for this useful information and videos
lovely work! i am also following your steps, and also purchased this plasma torch to upgrade the one i had. My previous torch cable didn't have a power cable, i suspect that its wired to the air pipe since it must have had a way to pass the power somehow. Do you think that makes any sense? as such i should wire the power cable of the new torch head to the coper connecting the air. if you have any insights would gladly apriciate them thanks in advance
what about the grounding bro, my bob rnr card has no power (broke), when i turn the plasma on.do you use a EMI filter or else ?
Can you please verify 0-ok is active high or low from your experience, and why you changed jumper on relay board?(in your guide)
Thanks for the work well done
The downloads of Sheetcam doesnt include the postprocessors.
excelente montagem ,parabéns , estou com dificuldades , no start da tocha, quais relés usou?
I used something like this: www.ebay.com/itm/DC-5V-12V-Signal-Trigger-Control-Turn-On-Off-Module-Self-lock-10A-Relay-Switch/191931361196
Too bad for the language barrier, If you need help. Try to describe as many details as possible. I'll try my best
I'm requesting for the wiring diagram of the mach3 non thc
hi, do you plan to install ohmic sensor on the cnc plasma just to complete the system ?
can you show me the wiring cables from plasma to relay or to the board .thanks
I think I already showed in the video.
Dear dont try to use THC on these card, usb cards dont suport thc, and chinese cards dont suport thc and real time operations, thc is realtime operation, exelent video!! you have a new sub!!
Hello sir
I want this post Prosser
Hi...great video. I have question..how you change the distance between torch and cutting material? Physically, in the mach3 or in Sheetcam? Thanks for your answer
In sheetcam, when you setup the torch in sheetcam, there's option for torch height.
Amazing
Hi Minh Do you have any schematic diagram to connect the cut50P switch to mach3 5 axis bob?Thanks
I don't have a diagram for a specific bob. You just chose any output, and set spindle relay on that output. The trigger on the cut50p has 2 wires, connect that to wires to the relay NO pin and common pin. The output of the bob will control the relay to open and close the trigger.
Great JOB..
Thank you for the kind words
hi Minh. do you have any problem with high frequency of plasma cutting? how you solved this? thanks for your attention and sharing
Yes, I do. It's hard to deal with interference. I don't have a real solution to deal with it completely till now. The best way is not to use HF pilot arc plasma cutter. You can use Blowback pilot arc plasma cutter or even a non pilot arc plasma cutter. If you really want to keep your HF pilot arc plasma cutter, you can use an Ethernet Mach3 Controller to avoid interference. But make sure that you avoid all the Chinese controllers, they don't work well for plasma cutting table.
@@minhsmancave9448 I have same issue with interference, I have grounded all the stepper motors and every wire is shielded yet when I start to use it in the first 2 minutes everything looks fine but from three minutes upwards the motors start missing its steps and my computer motor starts to blink when the torch it on
My second question, please, do you have a free copy of the sheetcam program or do you have to buy it if you would be so kind to help, thank you
I bought it, it worths the money you pay for.
plz help me to setup TB6560 4 axis mach3 floating head. (tb driver is the blue one)
Sorry man, I don't have your drivers or your breakout board. I cannot test and show you what to do.
Can you make the Plasma_CNC.xml file available with the Mach3 settings? has how to create gcode with these settings in artcam 2008? the configuration of the mach3 plasma with ... is it already in the SheetCam?
I surely can share the plasma profile file if you have the same board. I've never used ArtCam before so I'm not sure. But sheetcam is very straight forward to use with this machine. Just let me know if you have the same RnRmotion control board because each board is configured differently.
@@minhsmancave9448 if you can share i appreciate it, the signal is the same. I did not receive the complete SheetCam. Can you also share it? Thanks for all the help. congratulations on the project.
I upload the profile for the plasma cutter to the GrabCad folder: grabcad.com/library/cnc-plasma-cutting-table-for-under-750-1
For SheetCAM, I also only have the demo version so not really different from you.
@@minhsmancave9448 thanks for the settings for mach3. i don't speak english, i'm having trouble understanding the changes and configurations in SheetCAM (from 8:34 minutes of the video) you could put a text with details and or copy the command line. so that I can translate on google translator. I am very grateful
Hi. Min, I have followed your instruction, but I get a problem. Microswitch sends trigger to controller but Z wont stop to go down.....
Try to change the motor dir and step to active low in Mach3, configs, ports and pins, motor outputs.
@@minhsmancave9448 Sorry Minh, TrialAndError is my another account. Finally I have found the answer, ha ha ha ....That is ....Microswitch and Emergency Button have the same port number. System works normally after I fixed the problem. Thanks Minh
@@tohx11 I'm glad you fixed it. We always learn something after every mistake.
Minh, I have new problem. My THC3T-02 has jerking behavior. I have tried to config Z Motor tuning, Voltage (120v), Sensitivity (50-800), Delay (1-10)and steadeystate Voltage (3v). But still can not solve the problem. Can you help me?
@@tohx11 this mostly due to the Z axis speed and the sensitivity. If it's jerking, that means the sensitivity is too high for the actually speed. Or you reduce the Z axis speed (mostly acceleration because it is a small movement) or you decrease the sensitivity. Try to tune these 2 parameters until you get a smooth movement of the Z axis when cutting. When you cut at slower feed rate and less warped sheet, you might need to reduce the sensitivity even more.
What mach3 USB easy error connection if plasma torch is on ?
Yes, better go with other cards if you have choices
What stavolt on PC and BOB Powersupply and grounding can help that problem ?
Hello friend, the problem was the material to be cut, that is galvanized, put some sheet metal in there and you will be fine. any mild steel will be fine.
Thank you! Things are starting to get better. I have been learning a lot about plasma cutting. I'm getting better and has been able to cut few good metal arts. Stick around and watch my new videos about this machine and please give me more inputs.
@@minhsmancave9448 if you are able to buy a THC later on, I bought the Vietnamese robot3t THC3T-02 haven't installed yet, but already arrived, let's see how it works.
Got that THC, installed and made a video about it. It seemed to work fine with kinda thick sheet metal around 1.5mm or up. I wasn't very successful with the thin sheet metal like 0.5mm or 0.8mm. So I made my own mechanical THC. It is just a shield that I can adjust the torch height. The shield just glide on the sheet metal and keep the torch at a constant distance from the sheet.
@@minhsmancave9448 I'll check your videos then, keep on keeping on!
Please do you use touch probe because you don't want to use thc .
You should use both if you can. I didn't have a THC then, only floating Z axis (touch probe). Ideally, touch probe + THC
Nice job. Auto subscribe bro.
Muito obrigado voce explicou muito bem, e me ajudou muito com suas explicaçóes. parabens pelo canal, from portugues Brazil
Thank you my friend. I'm very glad that the video helped you getting started
@@minhsmancave9448 - Thank you my friend
A cho e hỏi là sheetcam a sài là crack hay bản quyền vậy ạ, nếu crack a có thể cho e xin link tải và port a dùng trong video không ạ
Các phần mềm mình dùng trong các video đều miễn phí hoặc có trả bản quyền. Mình không có bản crack.
this post processor works only with mm? i need a post processor for inch
thanks
It's also work in inch if your machine is set to inch. Just enter the number in inch instead of mm.
You can set up sheetcam for inch or mm and you set up mach3 for inch or mm each separately
Try with thc signal up and down
Hello, is the sheecam program that determines whether the plasma works and stops through the g code or the mach3 program?
Mach3 will receive a signal arc OK from the THC if you have one to know that the plasma works. SheetCam only generate the path
hello this little relay I can use it on a 70a cutter
The relay is only used to close a 12V circuit. It doesn't matter what amperage of your plasma cutter can cut.
@@minhsmancave9448 for a 380v cutter I can handle it
Yes, the relay is only to control the trigger, not the cutting current
@@minhsmancave9448 it's very nice thank you
Hallo, how about PROBE G31 wiring? Can you explain it? My G31 probe still not working. Thx
Did you check if the limit switch is working? Enable probe in Mach3 at the pin you connected it to. Go to diagnostic window and see if the digitize LED lights up when you make the limit switch click. If it doesn't you have to check your limit switch setup again. If it does light up, the probe command should work.
@@minhsmancave9448 hi, thankyou for your answer. I use limit switch in port 1 and pin 11, active low. Other limit switch pin to ground. But i cant see LED up when click the limit switch. Whats wrong with my wiring?
When i check the limit switch with AVOmeter, its work.
What controller board do you have?
@@minhsmancave9448 i use 5 axis BOB ST-V2.
😃😃😃 that all great sir
How to check if relay is working are not ,, I need to check relay so I need help ,how to connect light and check if relay working are not
If you want to check the relay with a LED light or any type of light:
- Make sure the light work by wiring it to a power source (LED light to 3.3V)
- Once the light is working correctly, cut one wire and put it one end to a COM pin, the other to NO pin (normally open)
- Make sure the relay is powered properly (10V DC)
- Now, if you turn on the relay by putting a input signal (5V) to the control pin, the light should turn on, and 0V, the light should turn off.
Good luck!!!
@@minhsmancave9448 thank you
Good jod
Trục z gắn đầu dò. Xin gcode nhập dc hok b
Đầu dò nay bạn cài đặt trong SheetCam. Mình có hướng dẫn cài đặt trong video.
@@minhsmancave9448 cần sự trợ giúp của b.. xin fb hay zalo dc hok b
@@minhsmancave9448 nhận dậy onl hok b..
Mình đoán là bạn ở VN, chắc là lệch múi giờ với mình (khoảng nửa ngày). Mình cũng không hay dùng fb hay zalo. Nếu bạn cần tìm trợ giúp bạn có thể hỏi bạn "Hùng Vũ", bạn ấy cũng có comment ở video này. Hùng ở VN nên có the tiện giúp bạn hơn.
@@minhsmancave9448 mình ở việt nam à.. hehe.... mình tưởng bạn ở việt nam à.
Sir Plz Give Me Wiring
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what post processor ?
Mach3-thc with scriber
@@minhsmancave9448 thank u.