The Legend: Veselin Topalov - GM Ben Finegold - 2015.07.30
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- Grandmaster Ben Finegold used to dislike former FIDE Champion Veselin Topalov. Now he has great respect for the Bulgarian. This tribute will prepare you for Topalov's inclusion in the 2015 Sinquefield Cup.
Veselin Topalov vs Ruslan Ponomariov, MTel Masters (2005): E15 Queen's Indian, Nimzovich variation (exaggerated fianchetto)
Topalov vs Arkadij Naiditsch, Dortmund Sparkassen 2005 (2005): D37 Queen's Gambit Declined, 4.Nf3
Vladimir Kramnik vs Topalov, Corus (2005): B90 Sicilian, Najdorf, Byrne (English) attack
Finegold for President 2016. Foreign policy stances such as "put it in H!" And "the Ukraine is weak!" Domestic policy: "You.... INCORRECT! and "Voting is fun. But if you send me money your vote counts more."
Finally, a politician I can trust.
Garrett Deutermann Terrible.
+Garrett Deutermann Don't forget about C4 and his running mate Ken West.
+Garrett Deutermann b4 what?
c4 is too explosive for Arjun. But not for GM Ken West
Very suspicious
37:15 "Somebody like Ponomariev, if he was doing a puzzle book, and that was the answer, he would solve it in less than one second and go to the next puzzle. But when somebody's attacking you and attacking you and attacking you, and you have to watch out for every threat, it's easy to miss stuff." So true.
As a Bulgarian my myself I am so proud of Topalov and I want to thank you for teaching your students about it you are a great guy
10:40 "And he played Bb1. Somebody in the class tell me why he played bishop to b1."
_Very_ disappointed that nobody replied, "Always retreat." Clearly the correct answer.
Finegold is without a doubt the best lecturer at the CCSC. I wish all the videos from this channel were Finegold lectures.
Sam Rosenbalm All other lecturers are very good too. I enjoy lectures of GM Akobian, GM Yasser, GM Ronen, FM Aviv as much as GM Ben's funny lectures. Mike's lectures are pretty good too!
Tharinda Nimnajith Yasser is the kind of person I would love to know in real life. Incredibly soft spoken and likeable. He would make a great counselor.
Sam Rosenbalm Ramirez is my favourite!
I find Finegold's humour a bit hit-and-miss, but he was bang on the money today! Top games, top lecture!
***** Finegold's humor is always miss. That's part of his shtick.
+Sam Rosenbalm shtick? And how can humor be miss?
24:23 "So if I was either color I would resign." XD
"As you can see, both of the knights are pinned and they are both attacked. So if I was with either colour, I would resign. It's too complicated for me."
Another instant Finegold-classic. :D
Finegold gives the best lectures.
Next trip overseas will be to St Louis! This GM deserves my full thanks for giving me so many lessons for free!!!
I've not played chess for about ten years but these videos are very addictive.
"I hope nobody's hymen broke"
- Ben Finegold.
When did he say that?
Search Ben's Disco Driving
Made my night. Thanks good sir
Keep the Finegold lectures coming Scholastic Centre!!!
So much to learn.
I love Ben's in depth analysis spoken in layman terms for beginners. Great channel, great content
Well, that makes one of us.
Awesome games ! Looking forward to seeing him play next month
Ben Please do Judit Polgar ;D
Love your style!
" - MR. FINEGOLD!!" , As they would say in The Matrix, " - You´ve done it again! You´ve insulted us all and at the same time made us love you and forgive you! That must make you a candidate for the combination of the year!"
GRANDMASTER Finegold !!!!
Showing propper respect
I wish Ben would have shared his reason for not liking Topalov back when. A fun lecture to watch. Thanks Ben
Toiletgate, probably.
at 24:21 (not questioning taplov by any means) why not Qa4+ with idea of capturing bishop on b4
Then Nc6 blocks check, protects bishop, and develops. Meanwhile queen is no longer guarding the center.
At 36:45, I'm wondering if this line works:
RG8, QxG8, QF6+, QG7, RE8#
That's the checkmate line I saw when I paused the video and tried to analyse the situation, but I'm not sure if it works. I'm never confident in my calculations haha.
It doesn't, because black can block QF6+ with RG7 instead of QG7. I need to learn to calculate better haha.
I thought he was going to say: "Because they are.... Two wild and crazy guys!"
So at 24:59 Nxd4
is there something wrong with Qa4+ first
How is b4 any good? 47:01
I would just took the bishop on c3 and after Queen takes-> Nb4. I looks like it just blunders a piece and a pawn.
But honestly I dunno what to play as white :P
If you kept watching you would know.
can you add a legends playlist please, i enjoy watching the legend series.
OK.
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@@alansong4754 magnus isn't that good
min 43, where does the queen go when black plays d5 after Nc3??
These are great (!) videos, but I do think BF goes a bit overboard with the player-style fatalism comments, especially in Kramnik v. Topalov.
According to the free database at chesstempo, Kramnik as White against Topalov played 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 a total of 5 times, all squeezed in the years 2003-2005 (these all seem to be serious, classical games as well). After his first 3 outings, his score with White in this variation was 2.5/3. So I think it stands to reason Kramnik would feel justified in playing this way against Topalov.
In the game BF chose, Kramnik plays terribly and is obliterated. But I think Kramnik's plus record against Topalov in this line going into the game, and even the career score after 5 which was tied at 2.5-2.5, is evidence against BF's apparent conclusion that Topalov simply had a much stronger feel for these positions than did Kramnik. My money is his terrible play in this game has some other cause, and I have no idea what that may be. I seem to remember he was having severe pain and health issues at some point, I believe around these years, so perhaps that was a factor.
I agree
topAlov. A strong. :D
Correct!
Finegold rules!! Not so many gags in this one; it's just as good if not better than the others. i.e. Awesomeness. I will try to be not so bugged by a couple of people in the comments saying you aren't funny or can't lecture properly etc. I think all it means that some people (apparently not many, a couple of percent) don't get you, is that you're doing something new, that hasn't been done before. It bugs people that they don't have a ready-made pigeonhole. (Huh? chess AND very funny/crazy/silly?! Does Not Compute) The thought and creativity in this humour doesn't seem to be too different in kind from that used in chess or any creative endeavour. Anyway, live long and prosper GM Ben. Your lecture videos are suspiciously wonderful. Thank you. :-)
+yesenadam Suspiciously wonderful?:-|
Yes, not so many gags in this one, and then you praise the gags? Why?
at 37:48 why not queen e8?
then black could play rook d8
I guess I haven't seen enough Ben videos, I didn't get the brilliant tacticians and coup d'etat reference
Leelee Phoenix probably, thx ;))
Leelee Phoenix No, I think the joke is that the term for what Ben was asking for is "coup de grace" (a merciful blow that puts the victim out of his misery).
Crito thx for the take/input
Regarding your comment at 25:00 about George Clooney: You should watch "Burn after Reading". :)
What's the name of the Chess software they are using?
What software is being used to show the board here?
"If you lose in 10, 15, 20 moves that seems embarrassing. Unless you are Kramnik, and you are white." - GM of trash talking :-D
These games are the same as Stockfish vs. Alphazero game 3 and 5
10:45 - That was so cute
I do not lose because I am a pawn down. When I lose I am at least a couple of pieces down - at least.
I usually lose when my opponent has outplayed me, and my analysis of the board CV is that I'm in a lost position. Sometimes I play on. But we've all been down that road and know exactly where it ends.
QF6: coup de grace
He used to like teaching more back then. Now he just rants. It's okay. The rants are good too
Don't you hate when that happens?
I remember that I saw a video of Ben Finegold trashtalking about Topalov being a cheater or something. Anybody knows what was that all about? Anyone remembers that video?
Are you sure it was Topalov and not Ivanov? (also bulgarian) Ivanov was actually a cheater and Finegold talked about him. I really doubt that he trashtalked about Topi..
Yes, that's right, he talked about Ivanov in that occasion, I mixed up things... he didn't like Topalov, but he didn't criticise him for being a cheater.
Is that rybka?
Interviewer: Mister Topalov, everyone remembers you for only one thing. Can you guess what that is?
Topalov: everyone remembers that I was World Champion!
Interviewer: No
Topalov: they remember my aggressive style of play
Interviewer: No
Topalov: they remember my exciting games
Interviewer: No
Topalov: Ok, I give up. What is it? What does everyone remember me for?
Interviewer: The Kasparov Immortal!
Better that than baseless accusations against Kramnik during 2006 championship match
why is ben finegold a vegetarian?
atreorey vegetables are good for your brain
It's obvious. He doesnt want to look like a hopeless fat body.
23:10 . after ...b4 why doesn't white play QA4 winning a bishop?
+eric schultz Because there's Nc6
Great!! Topalov raaaaaawwwrrrrrr!
Lol third time I say it I can claim a draw
What's the mistake he made in 1986?
Manwlatsi was a meat eater
lol now he has lost weight :)
Like I'm a world champion in hockey - ba ha ha ha
Lol the scared knight stayed on b8 for the whole game.
one coment for the joke on 36:30
Sadly in the last game Kramnik kind of defeated himself.
Yes, ever since the "toiletgate" he temporarily loses his marbles every time he gets to play Topalov! Can't blame him though.
+Jason “cyberspace entity” Doe it was 2005,toiletgate was 2006.
19:47 meow!
31:42 LOL!
I like your style of teaching,, sarcastic and condescending .. are you the Dr. House of Chess??! ..Naaaaah!
Now, THAT is funny. All Ben Finegold needs is a clown suit and his lectures would be funny, but not any more instructive.
it's pronounce unsTopalov , ay ay
0:49 Skirt alert
Ok, Ponomarev Is from Ukraine, but mostly we should Say he Is from ussr. He was Born and grew up in the ussr, in the ukrainian ssr. For thats the truth, and also to avoid Extreme nationalism, for in 2015 we all know what was the ukr army doing to civilians! Btw i also think he Is an ethnic russian..
Down a pawn in bad position although white has a queen on a3 LOL
Qf6+ coup d'etat!!!
You always bet on black [when you play chess].
hello mister how are you
I dont