The Legend: Tigran Petrosian (Part 2) - GM Ben Finegold - 2015.07.23

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  • @Dybbouk
    @Dybbouk 2 роки тому +7

    Spassky once said that Korchnoi's style was to put his pieces on bad squares in the opening. Then he would put them on good squares in the middle game.

  • @JohnSutcliffe1988
    @JohnSutcliffe1988 9 років тому +84

    It's a shame that his most famous game is the one with the queen sac. Beginners are impressed my moves like that, but most good players can calculate forced mate in a couple of moves. What really makes Petrosian a special player are his positional sacrifices (mostly exchange sacrifices). His ability of evaluating imbalanced positions, as opposed to only calculating forced lines.

    • @KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin
      @KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin 6 років тому +20

      The beginners are just philistines. Boo on the newbies for not understanding deep, complicated top-level positional ideas.

    • @calebjabez8426
      @calebjabez8426 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, his exchange sacs are pretty great and sound as well! Not just for attacking or winning the game strategically but also for conducting defense as well.

  • @augustsbautra
    @augustsbautra 9 років тому +31

    15:50 "Typical Petrosian style saccing (sic) all his pieces". The joke was not lost on me, Ben.

  • @aesaehttr
    @aesaehttr 4 роки тому +4

    Super great lecture Ben! You're the best! I was obsessed about Tigran Petrosian for today's studies myself. Crazy good player

  • @cr0mag732
    @cr0mag732 7 років тому +6

    I really like Petrosian's games, his moves tend to make a lot of sense to me

  • @LarryRickenbacker
    @LarryRickenbacker 8 років тому +1

    Huge fan of the late GM Petrosian. Thanks for posting this clip!

  • @adamhasson8927
    @adamhasson8927 3 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @kookoon
    @kookoon 9 років тому +5

    Love Petrosian style, I find it harder to keep your position and defend from potential opponent attacks than try an attack and hope the opponent doesn't defend perfectly.

  • @misanthrop1958
    @misanthrop1958 9 років тому +4

    Ben you are the greatest!!

  • @maestbobo
    @maestbobo 4 роки тому +2

    That whole Vegas bit - Finegold teaching a goddamn improv class.

  • @kieran1987
    @kieran1987 3 роки тому +10

    "I've been kicked out of better places"

  • @VincentFarrugia
    @VincentFarrugia 4 роки тому +2

    5:31 It is actually Thursday today so his question made sense to some people at home :)

  • @alexandernat3920
    @alexandernat3920 8 років тому +25

    Rip kroschnoi

  • @vladimirshagoyan4775
    @vladimirshagoyan4775 8 років тому +56

    Finegold, you cursed korchnoi!

  • @TheAlmlksam1
    @TheAlmlksam1 2 роки тому

    I love how this video popped up today, the day he was born 93 years ago.

  • @alexankhazarjian5299
    @alexankhazarjian5299 5 років тому +2

    Petrossian was never " Boring " ,that was part of his psychological chess style to empty
    the energy of his opponenets...He used to play draw 9 games and win the 10th game ;
    same Victory ! Chess is much more deeper than a todays sometimes show games . However i thank
    you for your modern and serious approach towards the boring '" Iron Tiger ". So , you've got a sport
    VISA to the USSR at that era ! Realy very chess passioned….Thanks and Gongrats.

  • @chanky1000
    @chanky1000 Рік тому

    12:31 The game is Navara-Wojtaszek from Biel 2015

  • @radrook2153
    @radrook2153 2 роки тому +2

    Did the director introduce Tigran as a a renown and legendary chess celebrity? Did he effusively compliment him on his unusual, and virtually preternatural, youthful appearance?

  • @kevinbyrne4538
    @kevinbyrne4538 8 років тому +4

    Victor Korchnoi died on the 6th of June 2016.

  • @chadmacgargle5311
    @chadmacgargle5311 2 роки тому +1

    The Alchemist Tigran Petrisian!

  • @SSJCornell
    @SSJCornell 9 років тому +1

    first time Ben has made me chuckle.

  • @chadmacgargle5311
    @chadmacgargle5311 2 роки тому +1

    The Mathematician Henry Edward Bird

  • @imaginationworld8699
    @imaginationworld8699 8 років тому +2

    My fav teacher is ben finegold because he is funny

  • @LarryRickenbacker
    @LarryRickenbacker 5 років тому

    I enjoyed the game wherein "Iron" Tigran beat Pal Benko on the White side of the Leningrad Nimzo Indian in Bled.

  • @johndailey5699
    @johndailey5699 9 років тому +11

    Always zwischenzug

  • @justinstephenson9360
    @justinstephenson9360 6 років тому +1

    I am guessing the strongest Olympiad side would be around 1962 and for me would Petrosian (future world champion), Botvinnik (then WC), Tal (x-WC), Spassky (future WC), Smyslov (x-WC) and then maybe Bronstein (drew WC match) or Keres although their actual team was Botvinnik, Petrosian, Spassky, Keres, Geller, Tal (still rather impressive!!)

  • @skillywilly187
    @skillywilly187 8 років тому

    anyone notice that @ 4:17 that knight taking is a blunder as its a wrong move..it give black queen takes E2....am i missing somethign?? would she be trapped?

  • @jacobtarallo4370
    @jacobtarallo4370 9 років тому +12

    I would've preferred those 80 move wins. :/ I guess I'm just strange.

    • @gandii859
      @gandii859 9 років тому +4

      Jacob Tarallo At least one of them anyway

    • @missjessgem
      @missjessgem 9 років тому +3

      Jacob Tarallo shakes head. terrible.

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld 9 років тому +2

      Jessica Crawford Horrible.

    • @familyamarneh1595
      @familyamarneh1595 4 роки тому

      No I am like u i also thought I am the only one who like those kind of games

  • @arman2339
    @arman2339 8 років тому +27

    Excellent effort pronouncing Petrossian with an Armenian accent, but you kept reverting back to American and it hurt my ears! :)

  • @stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638
    @stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 5 років тому +2

    Is Tigran Petrosian named after the world champion or was he his son or something

    • @GraemeCree
      @GraemeCree 11 місяців тому

      Named after. There are actually more than two Tigran Petrosians in chess. There have been at least four of them on the FIDE lists at one time or another. The rumor is that Armenia is secretly breeding an army.

  • @NonViolentSolutions
    @NonViolentSolutions 9 років тому +4

    Love me some Petrosian. I dont think you all have done a legends on Botvinnik. Whattya say?

    • @LarryRickenbacker
      @LarryRickenbacker 5 років тому

      I'd love to see Petrosian's first win over Botvinnik in the World Championship from '63. Petrosian goes on a King walk for the win.

  • @poly_hexamethyl
    @poly_hexamethyl 2 роки тому

    28:22 Can someone explain why Fischer (black) resigns in this position?

    • @lukemarks3281
      @lukemarks3281 Рік тому +1

      Whites only check also repels the queen when the rook goes back down. Once it does that Rf6 is mate. Black would have to give the queen up, and white would soon mate anyway

  • @119mars
    @119mars 6 років тому +1

    "what's tomorrow? friday?" and tomorrow is friday :o

  • @ashwinsanjay2768
    @ashwinsanjay2768 7 років тому

    Rook h5 checkmate? Am I missing something

  • @milijan-mosic
    @milijan-mosic 7 років тому

    36:22 what about Knight to D3 ? :D

  • @iamkind29
    @iamkind29 3 роки тому

    "What is tomorrow? Friday?"
    Me: yes
    "Not for you at home, you wouldn't understand"
    Me: ah sorry

  • @davidian2097
    @davidian2097 4 роки тому

    Black has what kind of pawn? A passed and isolated

  • @robertkeir7567
    @robertkeir7567 9 років тому +12

    Never play f6.

  • @very_unoriginal_name1714
    @very_unoriginal_name1714 9 років тому +6

    ben finegold is hilarious

  • @tiemx2039
    @tiemx2039 4 роки тому +2

    Guess we finally found out why armenia wins all those Olympiads

  • @rogerscottcathey
    @rogerscottcathey 6 років тому

    @ ~7:59, why not Rd7?

    • @BongelaMnguni
      @BongelaMnguni 6 років тому

      Qc6 followed by e6 looks crushing

  • @nicolamorawetz8435
    @nicolamorawetz8435 8 років тому +1

    5:20 why doesn't black di play queen takes on E2?

    • @Chess-Gyaan
      @Chess-Gyaan 4 роки тому

      Actually Qxe2 loses to BF3. The queen gets trapped

    • @Chess-Gyaan
      @Chess-Gyaan 4 роки тому

      Actually Qxe2 loses to BF3. The queen gets trapped

  • @BongelaMnguni
    @BongelaMnguni 7 років тому +1

    1:06 come on Ben

  • @essam909
    @essam909 6 років тому

    where can I find Part One ?

  • @rockface112233
    @rockface112233 4 роки тому

    14:49 and 14:51 is a greek gift possible???

  • @jcheever37
    @jcheever37 9 років тому +5

    but tomorrow IS Friday. lol

  • @grievousproductions394
    @grievousproductions394 9 років тому

    What chess program do you use for these lectures?

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 3 роки тому +1

    Korchnoi lived almost a year past when this video was made.

  • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
    @whycantiremainanonymous8091 5 років тому

    Petrosian died *more than 30* years before the recording.

  • @jason41482
    @jason41482 5 років тому

    Rawr

  • @onegerard1
    @onegerard1 8 років тому

    dear dear fine gold,
    still the questions and answers yes, from the class are inaudible
    ...still, I am starting to understand; just how 'good' you are.
    You're as good as me but for the mistakes :)
    thanks for posting

  • @Dybbouk
    @Dybbouk 2 роки тому

    But would Tigran the Tiger have ever become World Champion if the Soviets had not fixed world chess at Curaçao?

    • @lukemarks3281
      @lukemarks3281 Рік тому

      Would any russian ever have become world champion without the Soviets¿¡

    • @Dybbouk
      @Dybbouk Рік тому

      @@lukemarks3281 Alekhine?

  • @thecrazybishop1664
    @thecrazybishop1664 9 років тому +1

    At 1min - you mean regress or decline not "disproved" . Disprove is not an antonym of improve. Disprove = discredit.
    Thank you

    • @yesenadam
      @yesenadam 9 років тому +1

      Lee Theo It's a joke, one of the hundreds in the average Finegold comedy routine/lecture. (And 'Disprove' isn't the same as 'discredit'. Maybe concentrate on learning, not teaching, English. 'Thank you')

    • @thecrazybishop1664
      @thecrazybishop1664 9 років тому

      yesenadam
      Discredit is a synonym of disprove. Please see www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disprove. Thank you
      "“A man must be big enough to admit his mistakes, smart enough to profit from them, and strong enough to correct them.” John C. Maxwell"

    • @yesenadam
      @yesenadam 9 років тому +1

      Lee Theo I don't know why I expected more from you. Sigh, ok. Ok, I read that page. There's a list of synonyms. That doesn't mean they all have the exactly same meaning, as you still seem to believe. Anyway, this is all beside the point, which is that you missed Ben's joke and tried to 'correct' it.
      Apply your quote to yourself. Oh but you aren't big enough, smart enough or strong enough. Ok bye, I've wasted too many words on you already. [Note to self: Don't waste time trying to help/correct twits on youtube/the internet!!] I don't know what you mean by that creepy 'thank you' tic of yours, but it sure isn't thank you.

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld 9 років тому

      yesenadam By the way, disprove does mean discredit, though not explicitly. But I think the former commenter was just giving a terse correction. And in this case, he did mean it in that context.
      Regardless, disprove is still not the opposite of improve. But rather: deteriorate, impair, wane, collapse.

  • @smwg4187
    @smwg4187 11 місяців тому

    35:05

  • @MeghoRoddur
    @MeghoRoddur 7 років тому +1

    Control "Who?"

  • @georgewbushcenterforintell147
    @georgewbushcenterforintell147 5 років тому

    Coory good packing fudge since 1985

  • @clinthewitt3624
    @clinthewitt3624 9 років тому

    Game 2, queen E6 is mate

  • @CutlerBeckett90
    @CutlerBeckett90 9 років тому +2

    Actually Petrossian died 30 years ago :)

    • @jacobtarallo4370
      @jacobtarallo4370 9 років тому +2

      CutlerBeckett90 I think the story was from 20 years ago. :)

    • @JohnSutcliffe1988
      @JohnSutcliffe1988 9 років тому +18

      CutlerBeckett90 Fuck your passive-aggressive smiley faces :)

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld 9 років тому +1

      Ian Qualia HAHAHAHA. This comment is just amazing. Very witty.

  • @buddytevepaugh8525
    @buddytevepaugh8525 8 років тому +2

    uRa kO0K Ina koolWAY funnieMAN (_-O-_) HA HA ...........PecE