Reconstruction: First TARDIS scene - An Adventure in Space and Time - Doctor Who 50th Anniversary
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I love all the little things, like the man who closes the doors, the camera clearly visible in the shot, David dropping his scarf and picking it up again, the old-fashioned camera angles and movements, and the awkward long pause after the teacher says 'What?' They clearly put a lot of thought and effort, and LOVE into this!
Was the blooper with the man who closes the doors actually shown on TV ?
Invidious Don This video is a recreation of the first version of the pilot episode, which was never broadcast on TV. The broadcast version was the second version that was filmed, after the script was rewritten.
Some of them were embellished, but the actual pilot shows the extent of the goofs. I'm just glad they did a reshoot, with every detail from script to stage mopped up nicely.
@@atrociousconsequences4432 No, this severely exaggerates things for the sake of embellishment. The Doctor dropping his scarf, the wooden acting, the doors opening/closing, the camera in the shot, the unintentional snap zooms, etc were not in the actual series.
Honestly, I have to wonder why you people don't actually go and watch the original 26 seasons instead of relying on NuWho's frequent attempts to characterize it as silly.
@@atrociousconsequences4432 Of course none of those obvious bloopers were broadcast. For some reason the people currently working at that show try their hardest to discredit the makers of the original episodes and make them look ridiculous.
The people complaining that this isn't like what the original was and the acting was different.... let me remind you this is based on the first take that failed miserable. You realise that the original cast would have had more time to perfect it in time for the second script with better lines.
Thank you, on behalf of everyone else who actually watched the docudrama that this came from, for saying what we are all thinking.
STOP using that excuse. Yes, this was based on a screwed up ep, but they screwed up the screw-up!
Even in the pilot, all of the leads were completely believable, as opposed to the wooden performances here(well, except Barbara and maybe Susan).
irham kaoru I don't hate it, I just don't think the actors took it as seriously as their original counterparts did.
Well considering they weren't focusing on the episodes just on how doctor who came to be they did pretty well especially Bradley who was portraying Bill not the doctor.
It didn't fail "miserable," it just needed some tweaking, that's all.
This is a recreation I believe from shots in the movie from the first Pilot episode, not the actual broadcast one (note the mistakes with the opening and closing doors, and Hart...err Bradley's more abrasive performance. And the mention of the 49th century, which according to the docu-drama was written out of the script in the later reshoot)
She looks very much like Jacqueline Hill.
Sounds like her too.
I'm so happy Big Finish got these actors to do new First Doctor stuff. I'd love to hear more, as well.
I wished they filmed every single missing episodes from the William hartnell and Patrick troughton years as a special edition thing so we are able to watch how each episode looked and played out
Yes, that would have been good.
They should ditch the New Who crap.
So why can't they reconstruct the missing eps like this. This would be a trillion times better than the weird animation that they do use.
Yeah, that "animation" is pretty crap.
because that would a stupidly large amount of money, animation is the only way they can afford to do it
Or do something similar to what was done in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, recreate the original actors with CGI. Which would probably cost an even larger amount of money.
Andrew Chapman Lmao yeah sure, Rogue One digitally recreated ONE character and it ballooned the budget. And that’s Disney money. You think the cheap ass BBC is gonna spend that type of money on recreations only hardcore Doctor Who fans will watch. Not to mention the CG they have on the show now is dogshit as is...
Two characters. Although the other was on screen for maybe twenty seconds.
Did anyone else notice the people opening and closing the doors over and over again and their shadows on the roundels?
This was such a great documentary/drama I've watched it twice in less than 24 hours. It's so heart warming when matt smith and David look into eachother's eyes
Gee. Thanks for the spoiler.
I've watched it a couple times as well. I too liked it. And that scene you mentioned, aye I found it heartwarming too. Though I was still recovering from the cry inducing heartbreak from a couple scenes before it (I'm sure you know the one). OMG the Feelz Q_Q
@@Bluenuhvok765 Shouldn't have read the comments then, should you?!
@@sassymetalsonic5870 seriously who replies to a 9 year old comment
I can sound disrespectfull for Bill Hartnell but... is there any chance to see David Bradley in special episodes of Doctor Who?
whatever3132
In case of the Second Doctor, I could also see Frazer Hines (Jamie McCrimmon) do it. He can even immitate Troughton's voice.
timrob12 I would love that! But in nothing canonical or serious. A parody for Red Nose Day or something similar would be brilliant! :D
QueenBeastie
I don't care for what they do. I would love it IF they did it.
I always thought it would be awesome if they recreated the missing stories with this cast. Marco Polo starring David Bradley, anyone?
He wouldn't be the first to replace Hartnell on the show.
An unidentified actor filled in for him from the back in "The Reign of Terror" (walking down a path through an orchard), Richard Hurndall played the First Doctor in "The Five Doctors" (Hartnell was dead). Unnamed actors filled in for him and Carole Ann Ford in the wide shots in "The Name of the Doctor" (stepping into the wrong TARDIS before Clara told steal the other), and voice actor John Guilor imitated his voice in "The Day of the Doctor" (saying "Calling the war council of Gallifrey, this is the Doctor")
You have to remember that this is a reconstruction of the unaired version of the pilot and not the one most people have watched
In the original he says "A thing that looks like a police box, standing in a junk yard, can move anywhere in time and space" but in the 50th anniversary version he says "A thing that looks like a police box, STUCK in a junk yard, can move anywhere in time and space" Did they make a mistake?
Nope it says standing
The clip above is the remake from An Adventure in Time and Space not the original recording from the 1960's
I think they decided to change a few lines in order to give their own touch to the scene. Or it could be that they are doing the unaired version of the pilot as Susan gives a specific year of birth.
timrob12 in which does she quote a year?
Jamie Ives The third clip or so.
Don't be fooled. This is not footage using the original tv cameras These black and white sections were recorded using modern ccd cameras with the colour taken out. In fact we filmed them just for playing back on the gallery and studio floor monitors, not for full screen recreations. Looked good though.
dicky howett yes that's right. Also the cameras back then couldn't zoom, and here you see a quick zoom to line up for the up coming shot. To be correct you would see the the screen turn black as the close up lens is rotated into position.
But they could zoom. They had a zoom lens attachment that could be bolted to the front once you disabled the turret lens mechanism. These are Marconi Mk3 cameras, I worked with these at Granada Television in Manchester then Rediffusion Television and then the early days of London Weekend Television in Wembley. You are partially right, it was *unusual* to see them with zoom lenses, as they were so expensive that their availability (presumably at the BBC, certainly at Granada, Rediffusion and LWT) was at a premium. For such a large company, Granada had a grand total of *2* zoom lenses for these! Just 2!
By the time LWT began converting their Wembley complex to colour, the one remaining black and white studio using these before it was converted to colour had the zoom lenses permanently affixed to the front. Those lenses weren't seeing any action in the studios that had already been converted to colour because the colour cameras of choice for LWT - EMI 2001s - had integral zoom lenses (one of the few TV cameras to have such a thing totally encapsulated into the camera body, not affixed to the front). The last Marconi Mk3s left the LWT building in the late summer of 1969 and were sent on their way to TV stations in developing nations by the Independent Television Authority - somewhere in Africa in our case, IIRC, given that they were only 13/14 years old at the time. (Yes, "only", these could be made to work for a number of years longer. In fact, around 1984, I went out to Kenya to to project manage a refurbishment and installation of new colour equipment for a local TV relay station there. They were still using a pair of these for the local news broadcasts! One came complete with an old, fading Harlech Television badge on the side (Harlech TV's migraine-inducing stripey logo was unmistakeable)! They were nearly 30 years old and still slogging away every day, although one had a horizontal sync issue, giving the picture "the shakes"! However, before I could make arrangements for them to be brought back to the UK, they were disposed of by the team working under me on one of my few days off out there!).
Dicky is right about most of the cameras used in this clip - the shots with loads of contrast, loads of video noise and cross-patterning on skin are the fakes (the cross-patterning is the result of using cheap, PAL/composite colour CCD cameras with the colour subcarrier switched off but not properly filtered out - anything with more than subtle red requirements like Caucasian skin tones will cause that cross-patterning effect). However, the camera taking the shots like the one at 0:28 and 1:33 is the genuine article! Because I can tell you as a retired former TV camera operator and broadcast engineer of nearly 50 years' experience that that is the unmistakeable picture of a clapped out Image Orthicon camera pickup tube! These Marconi cameras could be fitted with a few different sizes of camera pickup tube, but it looks like the owners or the production team on this left the focus assembly (that the camera tube sat in) set for a 4.5" tube and slotted something smaller like a 3" diameter tube in without resetting the mechanism properly, which is why the camera tube is slightly offset from the lens and thus why those shots look like they are shot through a misaligned hole - the camera tube is not properly aligned with the lens.
It's because most of the cameras have modern guts inside that the one camera with genuine guts is switched to work at 625-lines (broadcast cameras from the early 50s onwards were multi-standard, 405/50, 525/60 and 625/50). The fakes wouldn't have a setting to work on archaic video formats like 405-lines and the picture is too sharp to be 405-lines anyway, even on the genuine camera (it doesn't have that "shimmering lines" quality that 405-line material upconverted to 625-lines has).
dicky howett
i love the stuff you guys do with recreating these things. and i know you have working cameras. so why did you not use them. i would loved to have seen it in the view of the image orthicon tubes.
Kind Regards.
Bopstar
Everything from 2:02 to 2:15 is borderline close to an actual telerecorded episode in terms of picture quality. Was that shot funneled to a vintage monitor by any chance?
I have the DVD which includes both the pilot and final versions of "An Unearthly Child" from 1963. The two are quite different as dialogue is modified and the pace of the episode is speeded up a bit. Scenes are not always shot as written on paper, and some require a few dozen takes to get it the way the director wants it.
All the performances were amazing, but my God, does Jemma Powell absolutely nail Jacqueline Hill - not just physically, but in her line readings and inflections.
0:37 scarf drop fail :D
Not exactly how it really happened. As I recall, Bill dropped the scarf in the chair and it fell to the floor.
Baywolfe That's actually the recreation of the 'pilot' episode - there were so many technical issues, like the doors etc that they were forced to film it twice, the second time with a less abrasive performance from Hartnell.
This movie was crazy entertaining and informative. We get to see where the ideas for different things came from, who created what, n a little about the actors who played the original characters in the early seasons. There's a wonderful focus on William Hartnell, the shows creator, it's director, and it's first producer. Loved it!
1:11 the doors
I can just imagine them saying, "Oh shoot!" and closing the doors, pretending that never happened.
I laughed so hard during the 'bloody doors' scene
It was so hilarious they had to leave it in.
I lost it when the doors opened when they weren't supposed to. The cast is carrying on despite all the Goofs carrying on around them, and they're acting like they don't notice. It's just hilarious.
Woah!!! Almost looks like the real thing!!!
I haven't seen An Adventure In etc. yet but I got the DVD for Christmas and I am hoping to watch it tomorrow...
Why don't they try and remake the lost episodes like Marco Polo?
They weren't allowed to do that apparantly, but I wish that Mark Gatiss had indeed done it, anyways. He said at the BFI: "At one point I thought: Let's just lock the doors and shoot Marco Polo."
timrob12 I wonder why he wasn't allowed?
The Channel I don't know. I wish he had just closed the door and shot Marco Polo.
timrob12 Yeah, agreed. It would have been cool, from what I heard from the audio version, it was really good.
The Channel And I know a site that has the scripts of that serial, so they DO have a script.
The teachers look identical. The clothes spot on.
What I really miss about Doctor Who was how campy when it first started. Glad they brought that element of camp for this reconstruction.
Funny, since people call it "po-faced", meaning the show took itself too seriously. Only later on did it become pantomime camp. Like season 17, which is clearly nothing like season 1.
why not remake lost episodes with these spot on actors?
From what I've seen in the movie it looks like filming was a complete nightmare
It's the round things! I like the roundy things
1:10 oh look my favourite person fell in
1:42, u see a camera
I remember they had problems with the doors back in the day. This reconstruction so beautifully done.
If you look closely you can see Filch's cat in the background...
And Robb Stark's head.
😁
Man the girl they got to play Carole Ann Ford looks EXACTLY like her o.o
I know. I saw the promotional image on which she and David Bradley were shown in the TARDIS console and I was like: "HOLY SHIT! That IS Carole Ann Ford."
Well, the first recording of An Unearthly Child (the real one, mind you) was recorded twice, the first attempt being quote and quote "unsatisfactorary". Maybe this was a recreation of the first attempt...naw, that was eons better than this.
This makes me want to see remakes of lost episodes using the cast of the biopic in those respective roles
and he is back :)
They did very good to recreate the original pilot, especially the doors.
Perfect
I really hope they do an original 1st doctor adventure with these actors. If they are still young enough to look like the original characters.
So hard not to see him as Walder Frey.
HAHA the doors and the camera!!!!
I honestly prefer original version with Hartnell. ^^
I'm the not first but if they remade the missing episodes it would make the BBC so much money and the sets would cost hardly anything if they remade them actually how they did heck they could even use the recordings from the originals and put it over the top but that will never happen
Look up the documentary 'Alchemists of Sound'. It's about the BBC Radiophonic Workshop (the people who made the theme) and there's a segment on the Doctor Who theme. It's golden if you're into electronic music :) There's also a Blue Peter clip on how they made the theme in the 1980s during Peter Davidson's era. Both are on UA-cam.
You know this is so spot on I wouldn't mind them remaking all the lost episodes like this, but it will never happen lol
The pilot wasn't this awkward; Hartnell didn't drop his scarf, the doors didn't creak that loudly, and you couldn't see the stagehands behind them.
This is a reconstruction of one of the first takes and first scripts for the episode. Maybe you should watch the documentary
@@cutetorbjorn1532 I'm not sure which documentary you mean. I've seen the original pilot itself, and that's why I know this stuff didn't happen in it. If this had been portrayed as a rehearsal before the cameras started rolling, it would have made more sense.
@@MaskedMan66 - I am with you on this. The mistakes featured here are much exaggerated from the pilot version. No recorded version of the first episode was this amateurish.
@@naparry4772 The only really glaring thing was when one of the cameras ran into the iron staircase.
Surely we are getting to a point where it would cost very little to remake some of the episodes it’s just to the bbc there isn’t enough of a demand to risk doing it but after dads army getting missing episodes remade who knows
You have to love the scarf toss!
I appreciate they are imitating the original scene as recorded in the pilot..but the original scene is nowhere near as bad as they're making out. This is like someones poor memory. The acting, was also far better than this. I loved the documentary but this was hard to watch.
This was supposed to reenect the very first pilot, which had way more mistakes than in the one we are used to watching. It's supposed to be worse.
But not nearly as much worse as this.
The point is that the acting itself was still pretty good in the pilot, despite the mistakes. Here, it's hilarious.
I love it it made me feel like i was watching 50 years ago !!!
ROUND AND ROUND
This is... EXCELLENT!
Brilliant work!!
amazing just everything is like it should
Fantastic set. Looks constructed even better than the original Time machine.
This is far more like satire than 'reconstruction'. With the technical side of things it is great but it does have a sketch-show feel.
can you just remake all the missing episode with this cast
lol problem is, william hartnell is dead :(
MrUncleTings the vid is of the NEW cast - it looks like Bill H but it's not, lol. Really really authentic looking though! #Savetheday
MrUncleTings Good job Sherlock
Scott Gerrard THANKS! :D
MrUncleTings
....Your stupid.
Legit got goosebumps
Brillent scene
I would love to see redos of those old episodes
Just to see the evolution
Note: This is the first cut of ''An Unearthly Child'' also known as ''The Pilot'', so the mistakes are remakes from the first cut and are not present in the official version.
They should recreate the missing episodes like this
They still have the audio from the original episodes along with a good number of still images. It would be amazing if theh recreated them as close to the original as possible, lip syncing to the original audio.
A university film department can turn out something of 60s tv broadcast quality now so the main expense would be the lookalike actors.
I saw the orig. I am 56 and dudes it was NEVER that bad and you know it! RESPECT THE DOCTOR! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! ( Oh Shit! Dropped the toilet plunger!)
They're trying to re-enact the original pilot, not the first episode as was transmitted (which had revisions and corrections made to it).
I found this a bit awkward. I don't think the acting was quite this bad, there were some spots where I went "Did they forget a line? what's going on here?" XD
Well they had to do it lime the original and the acting back then was like that, and since they were live broadcasts back then if an actor forgot a line they would improvise.
Yes, but it just looks like they've forced it. The awkwardness was more scripted than actual failure
Aidan Auld Well they had to recreate it and that awkwardness was also in the original series.
randomvids1231000 Wasn't live, but was recorded to magnetic tape. Except the BBC were cheap and used old equipment that only let you have 3 edits
TheBespectacledN00b However the special effects had to be live so in other words it was technically live.
I perfectly remember some sentences and they got them wrong. But probably I guess it was to show that the scene was going wrong
For example:
I perfectly remember it is: A thing that looks like a police box, standing in a junkyard, it can move anywhere in time and space?
Not "stuck" and "can move"
0:35 *(drops scarf just to pick it up and throw it at a chair)*
The one who looks like Barbara may be even more identical than the Doctor, himself!
if done properly, we could bring back missing episodes like this.
Mondasian Cyberman When Rachel Talalay directed Twice Upon a Time, she shot way more recreated Tenth Planet footage than was used.
Hartnell himself was quite grumpy.
I can't believe they even recreated the goofs XD
Pretty good stuff but they grossly exaggerated the mistakes such as the doors flopping open and the studio hand being easily visible.
Anyone else see the guys in the background closing the TARDIS door?
"The doors? What's wrong with the bloody doors"?
They should have done a recreation of the theme, that would have been even better!
So... they took the original failed take, and re-filmed it with all of the flubs. That takes dedication!
I noticed half the shots look grainy and slightly blurry, while the other half look quite clear. Were the grainier bits actually shot on cameras from around that time period? It looks strikingly similar in quality to the real thing.
The grainy bits were being seen on screens, within the drama about the original making of the programme. The clear bits were 'if you were there in the studio' shots.
This version needs to be colored and replace Tardis console room with leaked Tardis console that i saw,16:9 and rescored Murray gold
Surreal...
Doctor Who meets Acorn Antiques :P
How can it move anywhere in time and space if it's 'stuck' in a junkyard?
There's so much in here that's easily refutable as inaccurate. I like An Adventure in Space and Time a fair bit, but as someone who has seen the episodes it "recreates" I was bitterly disappointed, especially given the hype about the attention to detail.
1:10 me when I came late al school
Hey, BBC Four's showing An Adventure in Space and Time as I type this (on Doctor Who's 60th anniversary). They seem to have cut out this scene in the actual film where they're trying to record the pilot. And also scenes where they're rehearsing for the pilot or reading lines from the script. Wonder if this is something to do with the whole Stef Coburn issue.
EDIT: And they've also replaced Matt Smith's cameo at the end with Ncuti Gatwa.
1. Yes, it's exactly because of Stef Coburn that they had to edit those scenes.
2. That's always been the plan - to swap in the newest Doctor for rebroadcasts.
I was funny when the doors shut there's a man pulling it HAHAHA
I actually thought this was quite a good reconstruction of the original scene, the only thing i didn't like is how Susan's lines were delivered as they were a bit flat and the actress didn't make herself sound as young as her character
This is not the first TARDIS scene. Well that is to say it was till The Doctor asked Susan for the read out that was on the scene leading in to the story that introduces the Daleks.
1:10 it's the most awkward frame in the series of doctor who
Oops, doors opened. I never realized it was Susan came up with TARDIS
Omg, just saw the original before this and this is sooooo awkard to watch! The original wasn't awkward at all but this looks like they're deliberately trying to make it crappy by exaggerated acting and messing up. Seriously what's with the Doctor -deliberately- 'accidentally' dropping his scarf on the ground and then picking it up again? And what's with the crew falling through the door in the middle of the scene? Is this supposed to be a comedic reconstruction?
If you watch the actual scene from An Adventure in Space and Time, this is the first time they filmed it and unfortunately the sprinklers turn on at the end and ruin it for them all. They had to reshoot it, the reshoot is supposed to be the actual version. This is just the first time when it all when terribly wrong. :D
CarefreeMedia I realised I wasn't aware with what purposes this was filmed, when I wrote my comment. I know I have to see the whole film in order to get this scene into context.
The *original* version of "An Unearthly Child" is on DVD and the intarwebs, along with the aired (second) version. There were other changes besides director Waris Housain getting a handle on all of the utterly crap production values. In the original, for example, Susan did some sort of weird ink-blot thing in Barbara's classroom before leaving, which was never explained; that was omitted from the re-shoot.
As CarefreeMedia stated above, this scene depicted the shooting of the original version of the episode, not the version that aired.
This scene was a recreation of the, pilot episode for Doctor Who, it was ment to look akward.
+CarefreeMedia um you couldn't see the crew closing the door in the 1st real pilot when they had the door problem
The Golden age of the BBC! Its all down hill form here!
Easy there Mr Treneman
Maybe Susan the less, but Chesterton is just perfect :) I can't wait...
Y'know... those teachers straight up just followed a teen girl to where they thought was her home just because she was really, REALLY smart... Police? Anyone?
Who comes here after watching the recent live action reconstruction of the lost DW episode 'Mission to the Unknown'?
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how can you be careful enough to remember to check the radiation and not know the meter take a while to get a proper reading. I never understood that.
1:07 tv mistake,
It's the voices! A little over done, to try to copy the originals. Cat Weasel (the guy in the creature from the pit)n Geoffrey Bayldon) I'D SAY WOULD'VE MADE AN EXCELLENT DOUBLE FOR THE bill Hartnell doctor.
I want to see how they thought of the theme song
Was this broadcast ? Or a dvd special???
haha i love this!!
who was that at 1:10? haha :)