"Marco Polo" Documentary - Doctor Who

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  • @rakondite
    @rakondite 4 роки тому +213

    My father, Mamoun Hassan, was an uncredited editor on Marco Polo - the filmed (celluloid) sections that you mention (2.36 - 3.21) were edited in the current affairs department where my father was an assistant. His boss had had a 'heavy' lunch at the BBC club and told my Dad that he could edit the material as it was 'only for a kids show' and it really didn't need his attention. Dad only told me about it in the late 90's as he really didn't think it was that interesting or important. When I asked him what the material was like - as it's a lost serial - he said that it wasn't anything special in terms of craft film, but it really tried hard to set up the studio action pieces. In spite of his varied career in cinema, I've been quite proud that my family has a small connection to Doctor Who.

  • @robalexander8065
    @robalexander8065 4 роки тому +50

    Perhaps the saddest aspect of the loss of Marco Polo is the fact of all the serials in Season One it was by far the most ambitious and arguably most beautiful to look at. Meanwhile lesser stories which are not as visually impressive are fully extant.

  • @willimations277
    @willimations277 4 роки тому +48

    Josh is really getting bold with these hints that he stole Marco Polo, huh.

  • @unrealcows
    @unrealcows 4 роки тому +56

    Wow Josh, that was amazing, you making of documents should be put on the blu rays

  • @markrob777
    @markrob777 Рік тому +3

    Magnificent documentary. I missed Marco Polo entirely. I only picked up Dr Who in 1965. Thank you so much for this. I feel so much closer to the Hartnell era now.

  • @chancetheboy8487
    @chancetheboy8487 4 роки тому +16

    I love that they had that little thing where the doctor would mispronounce Ian's last name, even in the massacre when he's recalling old companions. God I miss that. just that little insider.

  • @benji274
    @benji274 4 роки тому +50

    A great effort Josh, and worthy of a spot on a DVD/Blu-Ray. Also have learnt that the 2020 calendar lines up with 1964's :)

    • @benji274
      @benji274 4 роки тому +8

      And you treat us to your Hartnell impression, followed by a very good, mature dialogue on the use of yellowface

  • @Akito01
    @Akito01 4 роки тому +16

    Thinking of how the vast majority of viewers at the time were watching on comparatively small black and white televisions, it's amazing how beautiful and full of color and detail the sets and costumes on this story were. Documentaries like this are a great way to honor that great work, so thanks mush for this! Parenthetically, I just watched Meglos yesterday - they did Jacqueline Hill dirty!

  • @jase6860
    @jase6860 4 роки тому +24

    What a great video. This needs to be put on the blu ray release when it happens. Marco Polo is one of my favourite stories. Amazing work josh

  • @finnsempire5671
    @finnsempire5671 10 місяців тому +2

    I love how the first tardis team Acts like a family because the two main leads were like a grandfather and a granddaughter behind the scenes 😊

  • @SallyLovejoy
    @SallyLovejoy 3 роки тому +10

    As a little girl, I loved this story! So much so, that I remember trying to find out, as much as I could, from our school encyclopedias. As the original idea for the series was to teach children about Science and History, I'd say it did its job! I can only echo other's comments that there were few Chinese actors in Britain in those days. Just to say, we were more ignorant than malicious with these awful stereotypes. Great video Josh!

  • @MrJ.Smith1234
    @MrJ.Smith1234 Рік тому +1

    I hope that the supposed animation of the smugglers and the underwater menace are a cover up for animating Marco Polo. Greatest historical storry and it definitely needs to be seen.

  • @Borusa1976
    @Borusa1976 3 роки тому +8

    So sad that we lost Mark Eden - he was brilliant as Marco Polo

  • @lilypando422
    @lilypando422 4 роки тому +46

    "As a viewer, and an adult you can enjoy something, and even say that 'Marco Polo' is your favourite serial. Whilst simultaneously recognising and condemning actions taken within it." Thank you Josh Snares, Very Cool.

    • @candicedouglas9873
      @candicedouglas9873 4 роки тому +4

      I guess you could say the same of The Talons of Weng-Chiang. A story I personally think is brilliant.

    • @QuagmiresDooflab
      @QuagmiresDooflab 10 місяців тому

      But are you as quick to condemn it if it's the other way?

    • @paulheap1982
      @paulheap1982 8 місяців тому

      ​@@QuagmiresDooflaband what would "the other way" be? Beyond something that only exists in your mind,

    • @QuagmiresDooflab
      @QuagmiresDooflab 8 місяців тому

      @@paulheap1982 if it's somebody "whiting up". Eddie Murphy in the Coming To America films, Norbit, Nutty Professor, for example. Is it still just in my mind?

  • @theoutcastboi
    @theoutcastboi 4 роки тому +6

    I wish they'd find Marco Polo. I mean, it's the serial with highest chance of being found, making it all the more shocking it's not yet been recovered.

  • @Darren79
    @Darren79 4 роки тому +20

    Great video, I love this story. I see lots of REMINI-ing😎
    I have to just say that the use of yellow face make-up was one of practicality not automatic racism. The amount of Chinese actors in the UK with good english in 1964 could be counted on one hand. And ironically due to being English speakers, they were often heavily in demand in China (in 1970, director Tim Combe sacked a Chinese actor from The Mind of Evil who just wasn't good enough - He went to the Chinese Actors Agency and the owner of the agency put himself forward as all his actors were unavailable).

    • @katestevens1572
      @katestevens1572 11 місяців тому

      P.S. It is also telling that Josh failed to "Like" your comment, despite you calling his video "Great", and your comment being very informative.

  • @theneonchimpchannel9095
    @theneonchimpchannel9095 4 роки тому +7

    I always loved the relationship between The Doctor and Ian. That was where a lot of the humour would come from, with The Doctor forgetting his name or taking credit for his ideas (or anyone else's ideas). That's the sort of thing I think about with the 1st Doctor, more so than the grumpiness.

  • @candicedouglas9873
    @candicedouglas9873 4 роки тому +5

    Last year I reread the novelisation for Marco Polo after watching your 'Missing Episodes' series. It's a great read. I've also watched the Loose Canon recon as well and this is very good. It may be 7 episodes, but I felt it had good pacing and overall was quite enjoyable. Would love to see a Animated Recon at some stage, or even better, the original prints found and returned to the BBC.

  • @verdiguy
    @verdiguy 4 роки тому +5

    Excellent documentary. If this amazing serials is ever recovered, this should a mandatory bonus feature. I revisit the CD set about once or twice a year and have always been impressed with the sweeping narrative of the story. Your research into the production and use of the surviving telesnaps and colour images is a nice touch as well as is the clever setting of some of the images into an old-school TV set, very similar to our first one. Terrific work on this one Josh.

  • @JoeSiegler
    @JoeSiegler 4 роки тому +13

    Hey, it's completed, restored, and sitting on the iTunes store waiting to be released! Come on, didn't you learn anything from the #omnirumor? hahaha. ;)

  • @jaydemetrick8399
    @jaydemetrick8399 4 роки тому +3

    Gasp! You didn't mention the wealth of set/costume/etc colour photos that were taken during the production!

  • @tangerinealarm
    @tangerinealarm 4 роки тому +4

    Excellent work, worthy of a DVD / bluray extra. I like the soundtrack recording, it works really well as an audiobook for long distance travel.

  • @MuchWhittering
    @MuchWhittering 4 роки тому +2

    Marco Polo really needs to get found/animated soon. Purely because I want them to make DVD extras while Mark Eden and William Russell are still alive.

    • @Matty-pn4or
      @Matty-pn4or 3 роки тому +2

      Spoke to soon mark eden died

  • @whovian59
    @whovian59 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks, Josh, for a fascinating 'Making of'. Concise and informative as always. I really enjoyed both the BBC audio release, and the telesnaps version of this iconic historical. Would love to see this story animated and in colour. Again many thanks for this.

  • @LukeNyul
    @LukeNyul 4 роки тому +3

    Excellent video as always Josh! I've not yet experienced Marco Polo in any form as of yet but it's definitely the missing Doctor Who story I'm most interested in! Excellent point at the end of the video about enjoying the story regardless of it's racial problems and I completely agree with what you say. It's just a shame that people don't look at stories like this and "Talons" with this outlook.

  • @Ben_Kirkham
    @Ben_Kirkham 4 місяці тому

    It’s really saying something for the quality of Marco Polo that it is so popular despite no frames of footage existing! Loose Cannon’s reconstruction is highly recommended!
    I hope it’s either fully animated or receives a top-notch, full reconstruction for the Collection set 🤞🏻

  • @agent6412
    @agent6412 4 роки тому +3

    Oh perfect, I was trying to explain the tragedy of the lost Marco Polo to my friend last night but couldn't remember which video it was, how fortunate the hottest youtuber is also the most helpful

  • @brentbrooks3
    @brentbrooks3 4 роки тому +2

    Josh, your videos are amazing. Thank you so much for what you do and keep them coming. ❤️

  • @marky437
    @marky437 4 роки тому +1

    If they made it into an animated serial it would be great to redo the episode and put the doctor back in it with his dialogue so we can see how much different the episode was - extra treat for fans

  • @stephenmumford9995
    @stephenmumford9995 2 роки тому +1

    Marco Polo is my favourite Dr Who story. I've enjoyed the audio many times and it's good to look through the telesnaps as it plays. The novel is also fantastic.

  • @johnleggett5054
    @johnleggett5054 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent Josh! - many thanks for producing these superb videos of the classic era.

  • @MuchWhittering
    @MuchWhittering 4 роки тому +1

    I think if Marco Polo were to be found, it would be far less popular. Because no way would it look as epic and amazing in reality as it does in our heads.

  • @michaelsegal7443
    @michaelsegal7443 4 роки тому +3

    I remember putting this story on for the first time when I was working on a term paper. I remember seeing the loose cannon version on video dalymotion. But something strange happened when I put on the episode 1. The first ten to fifteen seconds of the episode were there but what was shocking was it was in color. At the time I was shocked. A second there I thought I found episode one completed in color. Then it turned back to loose cannon in black and white. I couldn’t make that up if I tried

    • @Quirderph
      @Quirderph 4 роки тому +1

      I believe that was something they shot specifically for the reconstruction. I think it starred Marco Polo's original actor as an older Marco, writing down his time spent with the Tardis crew.
      (Also, the REAL Marco Polo was in prison by the time he told his stories. So much for him wanting freedom...)

    • @JoshSnares
      @JoshSnares  4 роки тому +7

      Loose Cannon made two recons: 1 in colour, 1 in black and white. The black and white is most updated because it includes the telesnaps.

  • @JAProductions494
    @JAProductions494 3 роки тому +3

    RIP Mark Eden who played Marco Polo

  • @TheWhuever
    @TheWhuever 4 роки тому +1

    excellent video Josh, please make more documentaries on the missing episodes, keep up the good work fella

  • @jasongott1094
    @jasongott1094 4 роки тому +1

    Great video as always, Josh. I am 100% convinced that this story is out there somewhere and will be returned some day. There were just too many prints out there.

  • @robalexander8065
    @robalexander8065 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent work, Josh! Very well put together.

  • @matthewjh138
    @matthewjh138 4 роки тому +1

    This stuff is honestly the best on UA-cam keep up the Great work mate!

  • @hereticosjc
    @hereticosjc 4 роки тому +1

    Another quality video dude, I really enjoy your delve's into classic who. On the DWME forum and 60s Who Facebook group this comes up the most I'd say for episode most people want to see recovered (or to be animated).
    Keep up the good work dude :)

  • @Majorhappysaccount
    @Majorhappysaccount 4 роки тому +2

    There is also an abridged photo reconstruction on THE BEGINNING Box Set.

  • @rickriffel6246
    @rickriffel6246 Рік тому

    We have the complete audio, we have the script, and we have numerous still photos in color and in black&white. Everything needed to produce an animated reconstruction. And what a masterpiece it could be, all three-and-a-half hours of it.

  • @FishDS9
    @FishDS9 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you Josh. I always enjoy your documentaries and the work you put into them

  • @SamLovesHorrorMovies
    @SamLovesHorrorMovies 2 роки тому

    I just listened to the BBC audio release of this story as I begin my Classic Who viewing. I really enjoyed it. While researching, I came across this video. Thank you for such an amazing documentary.

  • @Fuuntag
    @Fuuntag 4 роки тому +6

    Wow, that’s some good engagement and after only 30 minutes! I am only 2 minutes in and this looks amazingly well produced. Well done.

  • @casselsjoe
    @casselsjoe 4 роки тому

    Another great video Josh. Thanks for all your hard work. I wish Marco Polo still existed. It's such a great serial.

  • @robalexander8065
    @robalexander8065 4 роки тому

    What a superb documentary. Excellent work, Josh!

  • @jeezlouise1902
    @jeezlouise1902 4 роки тому +2

    I've never seen a lot of these photos, they look amazing 💞

  • @ppotter
    @ppotter 4 роки тому +1

    Nice early morning surprise. Thanks!

  • @drummerwarrior1
    @drummerwarrior1 4 роки тому +2

    Am looking forward to adding Marco Polo to my audio collection.

  • @ddphotouk
    @ddphotouk 4 роки тому +1

    My wife's cousin is Derren Nesbitt, and he has told us many tales about the making of this.

  • @davidblauvelt3460
    @davidblauvelt3460 4 роки тому

    These are getting better and better!

  • @e-spaceproductions
    @e-spaceproductions 4 роки тому

    Excellent research, kept my attention the whole way through, but that might be in part because of those GORGEOUS high quality pictures! Remini is truly a miracle!

  • @ireallydidntwanttomakeanac575
    @ireallydidntwanttomakeanac575 4 роки тому +1

    Woah. Now I really want to watch Marco Polo. Thanks, Josh, for inspiring me.

  • @MegaDratsab
    @MegaDratsab 4 роки тому

    I didn't know I needed this video until it was already here. Thank you.

  • @Agos226
    @Agos226 Рік тому

    Interesting to think that Part 2 of Marco Polo is technically the first “Doctor-Lite” episode purely by accident. I think The Doctor’s absence in part 2 is what gives the episode it’s power, the characters are at a low point, trapped in a foreign land in a barren desert with no way to get home and no water, and the person that’s been their leader and getting them out of these situations is completely absent, probably himself without a clue as to what to do. Maybe if not for this episode we wouldn’t have Blink 😝

  • @thewhocritic
    @thewhocritic 4 роки тому +1

    Such a well done video!! Wish this story was watchable 😢

  • @andrewmckinnon3211
    @andrewmckinnon3211 4 роки тому +2

    Ah Josh I think you may have outdone yourself. Lovely tribute to a wonderful missing story and as usual I've learnt lots. I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again but I really hope they have the sense and humility to come to you when those 1-6 season collections come out.
    Amazing stuff. Any chance this is the first of another in depth series on the missing episodes or is that hoping for too much? Haha.

  • @jmcdonald.1998
    @jmcdonald.1998 4 роки тому +1

    Upset we didn’t get that beautiful recreation done by you in this 😉

  • @goombabear
    @goombabear 13 днів тому

    The first series were remarkable considering it's low budget. The costumes were wonderful as well.

  • @ghostwarrior3878
    @ghostwarrior3878 Рік тому

    Still a true shame that this episode is lost it is still a firm hope that it is out there somewhere even if it's just an episode or two episodes of it and if it is it's probably in someone's private collection or the sad reality is that it was destroyed and in which case it will never be seen ever again. It is nice that we at least have the novelization, thanks to the surviving audio track it would be nice if they recreated this with an animated Doctor Who movie

  • @thetasigma412
    @thetasigma412 4 роки тому

    I saw this and instantly thought that it was getting animated (as you have done a Making Of for Fury From the Deep and The Faceless Ones)
    A quick search told me that no, I wasn’t going to be that lucky:(
    Great video as always btw

  • @alastairfleming3530
    @alastairfleming3530 4 роки тому

    Fantastic video! Lots of information here that was new to me about one of my favourite Hartnell era stories.

  • @TheDoctor30
    @TheDoctor30 4 роки тому +1

    Wait a minute, so this is why you were asking about whether the images of Lucarotti were actually him on Twitter! Great video as always man.

  • @cynicalwho4039
    @cynicalwho4039 4 роки тому

    My favorite Hartnell story! I was planning to make a video like this at some point but nothing could live up to this! Great video!

  • @RT2000
    @RT2000 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this and these videos are edited beautifully! You should be really proud of yourself!

  • @yccallumgames6321
    @yccallumgames6321 4 роки тому +1

    Quality as usual 👌 you should do a 3 part documentary on the daleks master plan as there's probably loads of stories to be told about that. 🙂

  • @CrazyDW00
    @CrazyDW00 4 роки тому

    I love the solemn music you’ve chosen for this video

  • @TheVegeta67
    @TheVegeta67 4 роки тому

    I couldn't watch the Reconstruction because whenever I looked at the sets I just thought "Why hasn't this been found yet?". I would love to see this story the way it was meant to be seen.

  • @oriain81
    @oriain81 3 роки тому

    It's a crime how this is lost 😔 even if you are not a fan.

  • @timrob12
    @timrob12 4 роки тому +1

    I did get the "The Beginning" DVD boxset for Christmas not long ago (not last Christmas though) and I was pleased to see that The Edge of Destruction had a lead-in to Marco Polo, as it mean there was still a some bit of the story that survived.

    • @MuchWhittering
      @MuchWhittering 4 роки тому +1

      Although sadly it's not the exact same footage. If you listen to the audio, Susan's "Must have been made my a giant" is absolutely a different line.

    • @timrob12
      @timrob12 4 роки тому +1

      @@MuchWhittering Still, having something that hints at the unbroadcast story is better than nothing.

  • @BabelColour
    @BabelColour 4 роки тому +2

    A marvellous production Josh!

    • @BabelColour
      @BabelColour 4 роки тому +1

      One thing came to mind - the high angle shot of the TARDIS dematerialising at the end was actually achieved by shooting up into a suspended mirror above the police box prop, which was more practical than trying to raise up one of the bulky cameras up into a gantry.

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 роки тому

      @@BabelColour Hi!... Didn't you say you'd be doing a compilation of every Doctor Who minisode, spin-off, prequel, etc?...

  • @peterelliott3015
    @peterelliott3015 4 роки тому

    Rd
    Excellent video. Just as good as them missing episode videos you did. I love listening to Marco polo

  • @guygrist4436
    @guygrist4436 4 роки тому

    The audio soundtrack is wonderfully evocative.

  • @DokkaChapman
    @DokkaChapman 4 роки тому +1

    I read the novel a while ago, was pretty good, but I worry that if it were to be released properly I would find myself disappointed due to the limitations that my mind doesn't have lol.

  • @britishfellow962
    @britishfellow962 10 місяців тому +1

    thinking of making a fan made animation

    • @robrob8258
      @robrob8258 10 місяців тому

      Good luck it’s such an exquisite production with lavish costumes

  • @Ben_Kirkham
    @Ben_Kirkham 4 місяці тому

    14:57 well said, Josh. I wish more people would take this attitude.

  • @frogoat
    @frogoat 4 роки тому +1

    You should be working on the official blu ray releases! Your work is of such a high quality.

  • @governorblack
    @governorblack 4 роки тому

    Another fantastic job! Thank you!

  • @Attempt62
    @Attempt62 4 роки тому

    Marco Polo held up for me using the loose canon reconstruction, but only while reading the script on the side while it played. But still, I did enjoy it a lot. Didn't realise it was yellowface at the time, so that is certainly a shame... I still hope it is found though. It's weird when seeing Marco Polo's actual costume in a museum is the most you can see of moving parts from a story...

  • @TrentonBlessWrestlemania489
    @TrentonBlessWrestlemania489 4 роки тому

    I'm surprised you didn't mention the abundance of color photos from this serial. It's probably the only Doctor Who story I can think of that Loose Canon used color pictures in their original reconstruction of this fantastic story.
    As for this serial being animated, I don't think there is a better time than now to do it. Season One of Classic Who is pretty much complete with the two episodes of Reign of Terror being animated. I'm sure when Hartnell stories are being considered for animation, this is one of the stories that comes up.

    • @HerohammerStudios
      @HerohammerStudios 4 роки тому

      He did. Watch his videos about lost Doctor Who episodes

  • @LicencetoWho
    @LicencetoWho 4 роки тому

    Beautifully done josh!

  • @ChrisKeziahHyde
    @ChrisKeziahHyde Місяць тому

    I really hope this gets an animated adaptation.

  • @jeezlouise1902
    @jeezlouise1902 4 роки тому

    Another great vid btw, I love your documentary style

  • @MGSBigBoss77
    @MGSBigBoss77 4 роки тому

    Lime Grove in Shephard's Bush Green, its right behind the marketplace and trainline today and still exists. Next time i pass by it, i'll be thinking how the first season of Doctor Who was filmed there.

  • @bananasaregood8655
    @bananasaregood8655 4 роки тому +1

    This was great! Very interesting. Are you gunna do more of these? One for ‘the massacre’ perhaps? 😁

  • @Ozzymayhem4
    @Ozzymayhem4 4 роки тому

    Wow great video! Personally I think that the Loose Canon Reconstructions are the best way to experience any missing episode of Doctor Who, the animations are great but I do believe that they veer too much into having a lot of creative liberty, as in, the animations aren't as accurate to the original broadcast. The animations like The Tenth Planet, The Moonbase and The Invasion I enjoy because they seem the most accurate to the original broadcast.

  • @johngurnhill8743
    @johngurnhill8743 4 роки тому +5

    I'm sure Josh got the film can in his shed and he's not saying 😂😂😂😂

    • @JoshSnares
      @JoshSnares  4 роки тому +14

      not anymore, in the great tradition, i junked it

    • @johngurnhill8743
      @johngurnhill8743 4 роки тому +4

      @@JoshSnares keep up your amazing work pal

  • @octaviusfooks7194
    @octaviusfooks7194 7 місяців тому

    12:18 - "POLO:...For instance, when I was a boy in Venice, they told me that in Cathay there was a stone which burned. I did not believe them, but there is such a stone. I have seen it.
    IAN: It's black, isn't it.
    POLO: Yes.
    IAN: Coal.
    POLO: In Cathay, we call it the burning stone. And if a stone burns, why not a caravan that flies? Birds fly. I have even seen fish that fly. You are asking me to believe that your caravan can defy the passage of the sun? Move not merely from one place to another, but from today into tomorrow, today into yesterday? No, Ian. That I cannot accept."

  • @lancehall7020
    @lancehall7020 4 роки тому

    Congrats on the DWM shoutout!

  • @Squicx
    @Squicx 4 роки тому +1

    this is intense! the whole desert studio part!

  • @darrenhale2351
    @darrenhale2351 4 місяці тому

    Josh I miss your content. Hope you are well.

  • @TheNerdCorner
    @TheNerdCorner 4 роки тому

    Fantastic video Josh as always, not long until we get The Faceless Ones

  • @seedhillbruisermusic7939
    @seedhillbruisermusic7939 4 роки тому +1

    that was another great documentary

  • @glennmurphie7229
    @glennmurphie7229 4 роки тому

    Be great to see this returned!

  • @artyfartblast3289
    @artyfartblast3289 3 роки тому

    Fantsstic darling, I love your work!

  • @The_Sober_One_LCM
    @The_Sober_One_LCM 4 роки тому +5

    Me: Watches a video about the making of Marco Polo
    Josh: Includes an upload from my dailymotion account in his video.
    Me: *dies*
    This is a wonderful overview to the behind the scenes journey of this missing serial. Thank you for putting in the time and effort. Keep up the great work!

  • @hiramdoup524
    @hiramdoup524 4 роки тому

    Marco Polo is one of my favorite Hartnell stories, tho I never saw the episodes. I did read the novel ,and the DWM archives and listened to the CD ! It inspired me to find a biography of Marco Polo. ( Not an easy task! Most were children's books! I DID find one tho!)

  • @tardisspider7187
    @tardisspider7187 4 роки тому

    Josh , The best all your viewers can say is this is Blue-Ray/DVD Extra quaity

  • @BlueSoulJim
    @BlueSoulJim 3 роки тому

    Must travel back in time and rescue these films