The 5 biggest FRY SCREAMING mistakes (And how to fix them!)
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
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After helping many people to unlock their scream, I've found the most COMMON fry scream mistakes and give you advice on how to fix each problem.
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Bro please make a tutorial on how to scream like chester benington. Not exactly like him but the technique. I hv been trying for a year still i m unable to figure out. How to scream
@@WavesOfDMusic check out sing and scream yt channel he has that exact tutorial
My are stuck be really low for some reason no matter how hard I try I can’t get the intensity I won’t any tips
I really want to book a consultation but is it okay if my age is around 9-16?
(Sorry bad english)
My failure to find my fry scream continues to frustrate me. It seems like my voice automatically smooths itself the second I try to put diaphragmatic breathing together with my fry.
yeah man feels bad
Yeah I'm on the fucking line of just giving up I can't keep my chords tight if I get them tight at all
Faxx i can do the vocal fry really easy but when i push my diaphragm it just stops the scream, like it cuts the sound and my throat hurts like shit
same here! in the moment i put pressure on it, the sound gets clean af -.-
I keep trying but I can’t lmao 😭😭
I unlocked my fry scream 1 months ago and i feel so happy
*cough* Vocal Fry *cough*
@@jgraber9302 stop
@@damf5488 I’m trying to help you. But ok, you’ll learn sooner or later
@@jgraber9302 no im doing my screams rigth i dont feel pain and it sounds good and my voice is not damaged
@@damf5488 overtime you will. Vocal Fry is using your true folds, your true vocal folds are very fragile. If you keep doing Vocal Fry for a long time, it will mess up your voice. I’m not trying to hate or anything, I’m trying to help people not make the same mistake I’ve made
I accidentally taught myself how to scream when I was 13 because I loved heavy and death metal, first time I done it, it felt like I was trying to throw up glass but I fixed it around and yeah now i can fry scream
@@CMDRkarstenvader I think they are kinda toxic
@@fbi1867 They are which is unfortunate because the information they give is really important. I was in the discord for awhile but I saw the mods just bashing this one dude for no reason. I forgot exactly what he did, but it wasn't really anything serious but the mods saw whatever he was doing and just started giving him shit. I forgot if they banned him from the discord or not but whatever happened it made me so disgusted in the mods that I just left
@@ivanvenne yup,and I got removed apparently for advertising when I never even advertised,I even asked my friend and he said I never advertised in that server from what he’s seen.😂
@@ivanvenne the mods can be pretty condescending too sometimes
@@ivanvenne who was the person they were bashing anyways I’m wondering if I know them?
Screaming from a head voice was my biggest problem. I could get a scream that sounded...fine...but it was too whiny and thin sounding. Moving that scream down into a chest (or mixed) voice beefed it up quite a bit.
I'm struggling with that atm. If you have some tips about how to do this (move the fry scream to chest voice) i'm all ears.
@@djabthrash I did a quick video on this. It's more of a demonstration than an explanation, but the key for me was to start out by ramping up into a nice strong clean mixed voice, then adding the distortion over the top, being careful not to lose the clean tone underneath.
I should also mention that I'm very much still learning how to do this. So definitely don't treat my demonstration as "the way" to do it.
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@@djabthrash
Practice going in and out of chest voice and head voice, practice doing your higher vocal fry, try moving along the range of your normal vocal fry, repeat steps 1-3, and then try and potentially *practice* "frying" out of your chest voice
@@Jonathan-A.C. Thanks a ton man. Makes so much sense hehe
@@Jonathan-A.C. what if the notes are really high so you need to use your head voice? there's no way we'd belt 5th octaves notes even more so with distortion. what to do?
I laughed out loud at the part with vocal cords being represented with lips. Great video! Thank you for this.
THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE HEAD VOICE ISSUE! One of the biggest misnomers with TI vocal tracts are when people think that falsetto and head voice are the same thing
It''s weird because the 'robot' and 'whisper' were actually the techniques that helped me find my fry. I've been going at it for a little over a month now and starting to crack it!
This video was SUPER helpful. I used to scream for a band when i was like 15 and i was basically all throat and even tho it sounded brutal it felt even more brutal on my throat. Im back to vocals and gonna be doing alittle screaming for my band Woondshadow and i dont sound nearly the same. Gonna be doing alot of mids and this helped me unlock mg technique like instantly. So hey, you can hopefully say you helped the Woondshadow guy one day. 🤣
XD when you say it felt brutal in your throat you mean like it hurt like hell? i dont speak english well :b
@@sarunightamber701yes, that’s what I think he means
about head voice fry: it's good to differentiate head voice from falsetto. Falsetto fry scream is safe and sounds awesome.
An example is Justin Bonitz, vocalist of Tallah and Hungry Lights. Most of his fry screams are in falsetto, and it sounds sick
Found the comment I was looking for lol
I didn’t even know robot fry existed kinda caught me off guard with that one 💀
Sound cool though
Awesome tips! one thing that helps me to find where the fry scream is is to combine whisper (breathy) with fry vocals slowing adding distortion
I have been doing false cord singing for 18 years now. I have learned it on my own. I am only trying to do Fry scream now... And I suck at it... Thanks for this video.
I'm new to all of this, so I'm still learning and videos like this help.
can you continue making these kinds of videos I really want to express myself but I don't know how. Screaming helps me to get at ease in every pain that I've been facing but I don't have enough money to learn.
I was able to scream better almost instantly after watching this. The trick for me was learning that I need to squeeze the cords tighter together. Thankfully, I know how to do that from years of vocal training in non-harsh vocal technique. Thanks for the tips, and I'll check out your other resources!
Vocal fry-based screams work with your arytenoids. If you use vocal fry in your falsetto/head voice, then add support, that's a fry scream
How do I keep my fry scream from drying out my throat so quickly? Because it happens to me and it gets annoying
Use less air.
I have the same problem. My guess is that I need to work on breathwork..
drink water ig
use less air as mentioned and research glotel compression
Thanks for posting this helped a lot. I think the second one is the biggest problem I run into when I try to do it.
this is very informative man, thanks
Dude so helpful thanks a million
Wow thanks some of these problems I had now I have improved the sound and its sounds better I will keep practicing until I'm good enough to start my dream band
Dude “fry scream” is an umbrella term with multiple different techniques.
Modern false cord screams also require vocal cords closed and you can keep your scream for 10 and more seconds which would NOT happen if there would be a huge gap in your throat leaking the air. Most of the FC screams nowadays are almost the same as fry screams but with low larynx and cartilages vibration. Think Whitechapel and lotta other bands
You sure joined the r/screaming discord server didn't you?
@@masterleon40 I was there in the past but when they started a shitshow there and Marcel left, I was fed up with what was going on there.
He was the most helpful guy there imo. And it was not great to see a bunch of assholes ruining everything that lotta people, including him, created
@@angryktulhu what happen with marcel I’ve been trying to get the full story on the why the community turned on him?
@@elishaorosco... this needs a long explanation but i'll try to keep it short.
First of all, not the whole community. Some people :) This is essential to understand.
He joined that Discord server when there were some "core" people already. Like Topest and his... Well... Say, "friends". They had some audio files on Dropbox. And Topest helped lots of them which is fine. He was (and surely still is) good at screaming so he helped lotta people there, mostly verbally.
Then Marcel joined and started to share his materials. His website, his GREAT tutorials and audio files etc. Also he started to give lessons there.
The old bunch of "friends" did not like that at all. They kept arguing over and over again at some points. And I saw all that shit they put on Marcel. Looked like a bunch of jealous kids. Marcel was extremely helpful for newcomers, while the old guys mostly just sat on their asses acting like "meh this is bullshit but I won't even bother to explain the correct way".
You know what? Some assholes there even blamed Marcel for stealing (!) their materials (!) publicly. So he organized a call with the owner of that server and them. And they came to conclusion he did not steal anything.
But I unintentionally just got myself in the middle of that war and I had no intentions to stay there.
Marcel is one of the most objective and chill dudes. And he was very helpful. While Topest and his "friends" were full of shit and arrogance and ignorance all the time.
Eventually I just freaked out and said everything I thought bcs I had no intentions to stay in such a toxic shit hole. And they kicked me ofc :)
Months after that, I talked to Marcel and found out he left the server and deleted all his materials because that toxicity still continued to exist and he was just tired of endless shit they tried to poor on him.
That's what he told me, I didn't see it by myself but I trust him he's a great guy.
That server is actually full of extremely talented dudes, one does amazing whistle screams, another guy got massive growls like Alex Terrible. But that small percentage of assholes that were jealous... Damn it's only like 5-10% of them but they treat that server like their own place and hate when someone else starts talking to people there.
Hope it explains things lol
@@angryktulhu I used to frequent that server, Jesus I never knew there was that much drama in there
When she keeps going after you 🥜 2:28
😂
I got lucky and screaming always came very naturally to me. I've always been able to do high and low false chords, fry's, inward and outward pig squeals etc. Don't do inwards btw guys, they have some risks to the vocal chords but classic inward pig squeals are fun to do, cant lie lol. I started in 2006 so screaming is very second nature by now. You should be able to go into any of the above styles of screaming at literally a talking volume level with zero throat strain. That's how effortless it should be to get into a scream. Many people think screaming HAS to be loud but real diaphragm, throat and vocal control means you can literally get into a scream at whispering volume levels. I'm basically saying if your forcing your screams out, straining your throat and/or can only do them 'loud' your probably not doing them 100% correctly and could lead to injury. Once you are able to understand how to do the basic fry and false chord screams you can easily add distortion/texture by changing mouth shape, jaw positioning, tongue shape/positioning and should be able to go from high to low and change vocal styles in literally one breath / note. Yes, you can switch between vocal fry and false chords in 1 breath once you understand how to get into each of them. Some people only ever unlock 1 type of scream and that's fine, but I urge you to try to learn them all and keep practicing. Don't get discouraged, once it becomes second nature its really quite fun.
Awesome tips!
Omg this video killed me lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣 he basically just laid out everything I've been doing
Thank you so much...
Do you have a lesson for the deeper Growls like from Asking Alexandria the Song "Closure" for example?
I do those when I'm raging at games
@@willtrojan8854 What's funnier, those growls are literally the most basic ones, which can be produced from low-pitched yelling. On Stand Up And Scream they weren't even slightly tuned, and that was even more visible, lol
Get on your knees, oh!
how tf do I close my vocal cords and make sure that they're closed, come on
Breathe in and hold your breath like you're underwater.
Cough twice. Hold that feeling in the middle between them.
Ya know when you want to say something but you get interrupted do you're like "Hu-" and you break off the word at the vowel? Kinda like that. Maybe breathe in, open your mouth, breathe out but block the air with your throat.
Pretend you had too much Chipotle and you’re trying to let out a shit that’s been stuck for 10 minutes
i unlocked my fry scream about a week ago but it’s so inconsistent
so the easiest thing is if you can go from vocal fry to fry screaming by closing vocal cords more mid vocal fry?
No
@@angryktulhu elaborate pls?
@@Hackfruchtsalat read all the comments here I left lotta useful info under someone’s comments
unfortunately can’t afford the academy but it’s ok i’ll keep on watching n trying from your video over n over again
Mut kyrkait shaei bah da la iakhih ILP biang🤣
@@Bromptoncocktail264 🤣
Haha the dude at 0:35 is Fabio schäfer xD he is currently in a german Projekt called seven vs wild xD watch it if you want.. he is also mixed martial artist and mountain biker this is no joke XD
grad random das video angeschaut und dachte mir wait, das is doch fabio xDD
Hi!! I started to scream as Chino Moreno when I was 16 years old and all went right for many years. Well, now I'm 35 and I can do the same sound but feel the erosion of my throat and sometimes even pain. Maybe it is easier to learn how to scream safely when you start from zero, but I wonder if I have to start from the beggining or there is some way to adapt my current skill to my physical actual needs. Thanks for your content!!
Wow free consultation. My problem is I am shy doing fry scream with people idk. 😅
Tbh that robot sound actually was pretty sick never heard that before
I watched a tutorial before and clearly didn't pay attention because I walked away inhaling through a closed throat which makes a dinosaur noise. If you mess with it a little it can sound pretty cool but it doesn't have nearly as much volume as an actual fry
I’m trying to unlock a fry scream for a project I need to but my voice doesn’t break like you demonstrated. I have a pretty large vocal range and can sing pretty high for a dude. Any advice here?
While I was watching, I did a low fry scream similar to Dickie Allen's
01:50 I laughed so damn hard I'm crying.
Do a yell scream tutorial:D
thanx, mate! I've just fix my fry scream!
What about over the pencil technique??
Lol this is Fabio Schäfer at 0:30 .... nice!
Shitttt! I’m a woman and made all of these « mistakes ». Dont get me wrong, i didn’t try alone. I followed step by step but still… even if you try not to do mistakes, you can’t. It’s learning steps. I like to call them « learning to understand what I’m doing » cause I immediately know that it’s not quite right and I try to change it but i juggle a lot in UA-cam. I’m testing shit until I understand what it produces in me.
Second day now and still no scream.
Meh. With a bunch of reverb, lots of dub and volume up, it can almost pass as back vocals (not lead vocals) but it’s cheating. It’s faking it. First day 3 hours of wraaaa wraaa crap. Second day 30mins and i think I made one small scream there in my first minute and I was like « this is it!!? » but then nothing happens again. but I have no idea I what I made different.
Mostly, I keep on doing vocal fry, on and on, it’s not ear-candy! Vocal fry, I got that right away for some reason… 🤷🏻♀️ but THEN? every time I try to project the fry : or I lose the fry, or it’s an annoying not louder sound (like a fucking nose buzzer) that comes out. Some say « do a head voice », some chest… I try both. Why can’t I scream? Is it that I kinda do scream but I have a weak natural voice so it sounds quiet or I just don’t do it right yet and i only do vocal fry?
The sound is there (I think) but it’s so thin and quiet that it’s irritating ears.
I’ve started with the « having a pissed off day » exhale sound to do a sorta growl. Did few words (surely wrong). But I didn’t like the feeling. I felt like I was asthmatic! I kinda am anyways. I’m Leaning toward fry scream. It’s literally taking me no effort in breathing.
I just wanna add phrases, words or backing vocals in some non-metal songs. (Yeah I’m weird) so no death metal scream, no growling like a beast. Just saying words in a high pitch with a nice tight distortion but still a singing melody.
One day, when I’m good at it, I’ll try some whistle notes with fry! Cause I do whistle hehe that would be awesome!!! 😮
I’m a contralto.
2:00 the sound ahaha LMAO perfect false chords interpretation
2:17 = Home Improvement
This isn't really my issue, I can scream and it sounds good, and I know I'm doing it correctly because I can feel my abs flexing
but my voice becomes some what icy, and I can't get it super strong.
I for the life of me can't get a fry scream going. I can false chord perfectly, but there's something about fry that I can do. It's either too little tension and I make this weird bird screech sound, or it's too much tension and I start to go lightheaded.
i just put together some of the tips from difrent videos and if think i already have a good base down thanks
2:28 me when its my turn to sing for the music exam
You and Andy Cizek completely contradict each other. Both of you sounds like you know what you're talking about so not sure what to do there. Guess I'll just watch both and keep working on it
Bro Andy Cizek can actually scream lol and is in 4 bands.
@@mewtwo3046 never said he couldn't. Just made the comparison between these 2 giving advice on technique
@@atomicpsych0 yea I know I’m just saying for anyone else who sees this that Andy imo is one of the best vocalist in metal atm and no disrespect to this guy but he’s nowhere near Andy
My mistake i think is doing falsetto fry scream, but for some reason i can't seem to be able to fry scream in my normal (chest) register.
I've always had to go to head voice to find the fry scream...
Anyone knows how to unlock that ?
the same happens with me
head voice is almost always used to fry scream..starting with head voice is great then after you have mastered that you start training the voice to access the fry in different registers. there are various exercises and techniques for that.
@@breakthesilence9288 Thanks for the info !
closing my vocal chords don’t make sense to me. when I do that I can’t make sound??? I’m so frustrated
I have a question since I can fry scream, I'm just not sure if I'm doing it right.
So, yes or no? The larynx should not be neutral during fry screams.
that robot fry be soundin like my laptop fan
whisper screams and head voice the hardest part for me 😭
Most helpful! Thanks!
My issue is the whisper scream, I can't project my scream out and I just exhale all my breath
Oh see I think my problem is I’m not closing my vocal chords tightly enough; they often lapse into robot scream
I achieved fry distortion by compressing vocal fry so that there’s more tension.
How do you do a high note pig squeal I noticed a lot of singers are doing that and
I too wanna do but can't
What kind of scream does the guys from crystal lake do ? And Corey Taylor!
Hardcore shouts mostly for Crystal lake. And false cords for lows.
Corey is false cords but with lotta yelling especially on the first albums so many people thing it’s not the best idea to try to copy his “technique” especially if you’re just learning but it’s up to you to decide
I think for crystal lake he using fry scream but not using high pitch note.
Fry mid scream i think.
Cmiiw
Crystal Lake is fry and Ryo is a beast with his fry.
Corey in self titled and iowa is literally yelling and not using a safe technique, in other albums idk maybe fry or false chord
so this is my first time tryng to fry scream and my throat hurts, should it hurt for first time oor am I doing it wrong?
why did I unlock mine in minutes, but I feel like I am doing it all wrong?
Is the head register the same as a falsetto?
I’m trying to figure out what kind of scream that I’m doing cuz it’s not correct try screaming but it’s as close as I can get as someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing?
I understand diaphragm control and I am screaming in my lower talking register. Not sure tho. It just doesn’t sound how I want and it feels like I’m destroying my throat.
2:29 had me floored
@1:52 did my man really superimpose a video of his lips there lol
I learned to scream with your free course way back then, and know for some reason i forgot how to follow the thre step, and ended doing 2 things wrong, trying to do a head voice scream, and squishing the shit out of my vocal cords. I didn't realize until my voice was sounding freaking horrible, I'm going to see a doctor tomorrow cus I'm afraid I fucked my voice
Bro that bit with the lips moving in place of the chords at 1:51 was so outta pocket and almost made me spit up my coffee lmao
Turns out i have been fry screaming with head voice the whole time lol
Well I booked a consultation with you but you never showed up to the zoom call
lol at 0:35 there is Fabio xD
0:31 Its the one and only Fabio Schäfer. I cant believe it xD
i can do it, but it sounds like theres another voice behind me when i scream, help?
is it possible that I am just absolutely not capable of producing such sounds ? Because it seems to me that way so far 😂 it's as if my voice tries to smooth itself every time I'm trying to practice any type of scream vocals
I can scream for like 1 minute at the most before it gives out.
There is Fabio Schäfer in the beginning 😄
Love how at 0:30 rather famous (400k subs i believe) german youtuber fabio schäfer pops up
I’ve been trying so hard to do this and my voice is hoarse now. I’m frustrated. I wanna do this so bad
every time I try to do fry I get a whistle ... Or just false chords that I am used to. I WANT TO DO FRY SCREAMS!! >S
My problem is highs, I do fry screams very lows and hit highs too, but my highs sounds too nasal or like Stitch hahaha idk how to fix it.
Bro i watched your training but everytime i try that abcrunch techniuqe for fry screaming it comes out as either marge simpson or as mongolian throath vocals
The Robot one sounds like a blender haha
Is high False Chord Scream safe?
I can fry high and low but can't false cord
0:31 is that Fabio Schäfer?
Thought this was Futurama Fry scream. Cool though
i cracked at 2:28 xDDDDDDD
This video made me discover the biggest mistake i was doing and now I'm just sitting here like :0
Fedt
what is the title of the song that you sscreming time 4:30 mins/
How do you close and open your vocal chords?
Watch his fry scream tutorial then you will know, he teaches you
Bro how to close my vocal chord😢 for fry scream ...I have that problem😢
I feel like I already know how to fry scream
I have gerd and have a fucked up throat and I can just scream and it sounds like a fry scream
Just need to refine it and I'll have a good fry scream
I need a breakthrough.
0:35 Was macht denn @Fabio Schäfer da? 😲