From South African Recce Special Forces to Private Military Contractor
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Johan Raath joined the famed South African 'Recces' Special Forces straight from school, then plied his trade for 20 years in some of the world's most dangerous places. In an interview drawing on his book 'Blood Money', Johan describes a life lived in the danger zone as a private military contractor.
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I heard that Rhodesian and south African special forces were some of the best.
They were before the communist anti white government forced them to feel there ranks with blacks and had to restructure the training so they could do it. But from the 60's through 90's there commandos were insanely talented and we're some of the bravest men on earth. There special forces were created by British SAS and they done there heritage proud. They never had the technological power but they made up for it in masterful unconditional warfare skills. Most haven't a clue about these men. They think of navy seals but these men are in my opinion as good as it gets when it come to special warranted operators. Like I said they ate masters at the fundamental skills of Cqb and that's what they focus on. They get way more time behind the trigger during training and are amazing Bush men too
@@jackburmingham6716 They are still active man, I just read an article yesterday about 11 special task force members out of 1400 getting their operators wing badges just recently, I'm sure the men who get their operators badges in the Recces are not more than ten 😂🇿🇦🧭.
You heard right. They was the best ever.
Yes, as good as the Israel's Mousaad
@@jackburmingham6716 blablabla still whining🤣🤣
Spent 10 years in the British Army then when I left I found myself working private security in East Africa with a few ex SA Recce guys. Top blokes. Great memories. Mega video.
is there any chance i could ask a few questions by email? thanks!
In your opinion how is the pay? I know it depends on experience and contract but in general how much was the pay? I'm asking because I want to become a seal to become a PMC. Thank You
@@357stoitch7 6 figures if you're from a special operations background, anywhere from 100 to 200k annually depending on the contracts. Just don't get shafted and know your worth.
@@357stoitch7 If your doing it for the pay you don't belong, there's better ways to make more money.
My favorite English accent! Boer people are just great. Much respect from Germany!
Dankie vriend!
Poeses
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I worked with these guys in Iraq in 04-05. Most were just great guys, good sense of humor, awesome soldiers. Fearless.
? know Johan Hurter's story?
You can never pay enough for.experience . What a record .very enjoyable to listen to. Thank you.
These kind of guys needs to head the recruitment process of soldiers and police and train them. Their skills can't just go to waste.
It goes against BEE policies, so that idea is out the door.
Non-sense there are white instructors in the South African army not that they are any better.
@@thekgi1349 stop talking out of your asshole
I concur.
@@thekgi1349 I think you really missed it. I'm not saying he should be recruited because he's white I was looking at his skills and experience. He could've been black and I would still repeat what I said. Skill transfer is the integral part that's missing now. Our Police training is gimmicks currently.
I was at 32 Battalion - Buffalo, in 1979. Even though Johan came a little after the war against the Russians and Cubans in Angola, he certainly still carries the spirit and courage of the "ou manne". His conduct and experience in Afghanistan goes on to make us proud. Johan is a true recce and more, bold, brave articulate, astute and insightful. A true South African hero. A man specifically, that Field Marshal Montgomery might have had in mind when he wrote about South African Boere.
A true Legend, Humble, Humility to the core, great video and nice to see someone telling it the way it is, Thanks Johan for making us all so proud to be a South African and part of the SADF brotherhood.
An amazing man, and intelligent. Amazingly knowledgeable about Iraq and the politics.
Lived and worked in SA in the 90s. Met a couple of fellow vets, one who had turned cop in Murder City. Both Boers. Most honourable men I’ve ever met.
Hi J, I was at the 1 RECCE at Durban from 1978 to 2081, I then joined RECCE 2 at Pta. Did 3 operations, one in Angola, Zambië and one in Mozambique. Worked with Maj Dave Drew from the USA who passed away. Thanks for your book " A breed apart" something to remind me of my time at 1 RECCE. During my selection course I was the only one left after we started with a group of 37. I then then had to join another group to do all the courses to eventually become operational.
Sers FJV Engelbrecht.
Oh wow 2081 amazing
Fantastic Johan! You make South Africa proud! You did a wonderful job! May God bless you!
@judd stoned Oh, fuck off.
What a great interview. Thank you Ex SADF Sapper.
Uit my hart Mnr baie dankie vir jou diens!!!
Same here 1980...great interview Johan...make us all proud
Badass Recce makes this country proud
Brother you also from South Africa?!
Floyd Chris bi
Ek kry skaam vir di ou. Toe die oomblik aanbreek was hierdie perde met die kwaai opleiding, ens. net nerens.. behalwe in die pad. By 3:33 kom die waarheid uit.. "the political change had to come". Wat 'n absolute skande vir 'n Recce van alle mense!
Hy vertel jou die waarheid - dit is 'n wyse man. As 'n swart Suid-Afrikaner is ek trots op hom. Dit is die tipe mense waarmee ons in vrede en harmonie kan saamleef en 'n groot nasie vir alle Suid-Afrikaners kan opbou. Dit is duidelik dat hy nie net 'n stoere soldaat is nie, maar 'n goeie mens. Wit supremasistiese rassiste soos jyself wat dink dat swart mense net daar is om deur jou onderdruk te word, ek verag mense soos jy met my hele verstand, liggaam en siel. Dat apartheid nie-gevoel nie volhoubaar was nie en dit net 'n kwessie van tyd was voordat dit vernietig is. As u van oorlog hou, moet u weet dat ons ook dieselfde kan doen en diegene wat ons wil doodmaak en verdruk, doodmaak. U het nie 'n monopolie op geweld en die vermoë om te moord in selfverdediging nie. Voordat u aan apartheid dink en ander seermaak, moet u net weet dat dieselfde met u sal gebeur as u dit doen of ander wil hê.
@@thekgi1349 Ag asseblief. Dis relatief gegoede swartes soos jy (as mens jou kan glo) en ouens soos die ou in die video wat die werklike rasse haters is. Julle wil die verskillende rasse vernietig sien want julle dink dis "vooruitgang". Eerstens wil julle stamme vernietig sien en dan sommer ook rasse. Die wat nie een ras wil word nie is die sogenaamde "rassiste" en "supremiste", jul vyande. Daar is absoluut geen vertraagsaamheid in julle nie. Julle dink die Zulu wat Zulu wil bly, die Xhosa wat Xhosa wil bly, ens. is benede julle. Julle dink "tribalism" is agterlik. Julle het julle onderskeidelike mense wie julle veronderstel was om te verteenwoordig, verraai vir geld en aansien, en dit nogal aan die Empaaier wat Suid-Afrika verower het met geweld, die Britse Empaaier. Eerste ding wat jul na 1994 gedoen het was om onder die "commonwealth" se vlek weer in te kruip. Kyk na julle parlement, al die drag en gedrag van 'n Britse kolonie. Was dit nou veonderstel om "bevryding" te wees? Julle praat nou amper net die Empaaier se Engels. Daardie einste wat soveel onskuldige bloed op hul hande het in die geskiedenis van die aarde en ryk geword het deur slawerny en slawe handel. Swartes soos jy het jou broers destyds gaan vang en vir geld aan die Empaaier verkoop wat hul weer op skepe na Amerika gevat het. Jy praat so maklik van doodmaak en geweld, as ek jy was bekommer ek my liewer omtrent die massas van jou eie mense wat jy verraai het. Kyk hoe min neem deel aan julle sogenaamde verkiesings.
Wide breath of topics covered from missions, to Challenges to family issues but I wish they spent a lot more time talking on the Recce unit and how the selection was as well as some sort of memorable operations that are declassified that that can freely talk about now.
*breadth
@@slappy8941 with all your wisdom. Couldn't even form a complete sentence
Recce and Rhodesian special forces were extremely good on a par with any special forces world wide .
I served in the SA Army from 1988 - 1990 in Northern Namibia and spent time with the Koevoet and 101 guys. We met a few Recce teams when they passed through from time to time. The Recces and other special forces were known to be carefully selected and having had attended carefully thought out, brutally intense physical and psychological training. Johan seems remarkably well adjusted considering all the engagements he must have see/overseen in his days. No Recces were short of grey matter and Johan's sharp wittedness comes through in this candid account of his experience in conventional, covert and clandestine warfare. His assessments of Africa's needs seem well considered too and strategies I mostly agree with as well. These guys will always have work.
Curious to know what unit you were in the ‘SA Army’ in 1988 -90 doing work with Koevoet and 101?
For most of these contractors the cutoff age is 60 if I'm not mistaken? There are exceptions but sharpness dulls with age?
I@@vagnnielsenI understand SA medical service then used to send some army medics to Koevoet on attachment as well to 101 battalion Remeo Mike's teams.
Great interview. A friend of mine was a recce too in the '80. We both left SA...best move ever.
Spend 12 years of my life in the SAAF...good time BUT when the anc took over it was time to leave.
1999 gone to Canada.....best move ever.
Sal jou altyd mis ou Suid Afrika.
Awesome stuff I am 30 and white struggling to find a job..I worked as a nature guide for 6 years then moved to the city for better schooling options for my son. I'm looking to migrate but my skills are only in tracking,snake catching and dangerous game. Any advice.?
I’m in Alberta and I agree fully - we have a tribalist/Marxist PM. We are in trouble here
Good for you but not for the rest
Thank you for leaving👏
@@gkolkman4 Turturd will be gone next election.
Rhodesian SAS , RLI etc we’re top class special forces , combined with the South African special forces you have got yourself a deadly killing machine . Brilliant soldiers .
AWESOME SADF MEN WAS THE ABSOLUTE BEST, SALUTE & RESPECT.
Wow, fascinating interview. Johan seems to have his shit together. I was also born and raised in South Africa, and was one of the very first to be sent to the border with Angola in 1968. Things were nowhere near as bad as it later became. In fact we didn't even have military uniforms and patrolled in shorts and T shirts! The Portuguese were still there and we had several mutual interactions with them.
" In fact we didn't even have military uniforms and patrolled in shorts and T shirts!" - Were you atleast adequatly armed?
My pop's was ouman till 1976... Bless him...
Good questions, and great answers. He is articulate, knowledgeable, sincere and concise.
Great interviewer .. asked the right questions and was patient enough to listen
SALUUT en RESPEK! Baie dankie Johan, ek het baie geleer uit hierdie onderhoud.
Some very practical and realistic observations on some very complicated issues that many can’t seem to wrap their heads around.
Great informative interview that highlights the character and rationale of ex SADF Special Forces. Contrary to the stereotype depicted by Hollywood and current media, that these are men with a racist blood lust that served a discriminatory regime, Johan portrays the typical operator profile of intelligent, practical, logical, adaptable (Boer-maak-n-plan,) open-minded and rational (built-into-your-DNA) professional warrior.
Excellent interview. Baie goed en mnr Raath praat met 'n goeie kop op sy skouers.
Im from the US, waiting to go to basic training and air force special warfare prep course after, then selection. I would love to train with the Recces, much respect to you guys
Yeah our Recces is no joke, i remember a comment from a Delta Force Detachment or something commander or captain(not too sure) that said that he would rather not be on the opposite end of a Recce unit, which says a lot coming from them as well, One of my friends is former Recce, demolitions and those guys are in a different league than soldiers these days, back then the Recces wouldn't ask for airstrikes like u.s troops does, back then they did how special forces was intended, silent, quiet, fast and disappear again, often not using South African weapons
I was in Iraq during this time doing comms contracting outside the wire -- the South African security guys were always the best. And yes, the checkpoints were scary; second day I was in country we got stopped in a dodgy checkpoint and were about 5 seconds from fighting our way out of it (which wouldn't have gone well, in a single softskin vehicle).
1security contractor from SA wrkng fr sallypoort was kidnapped during roadblock
This was very informative and interesting , & not something I would have had the patience to listen to as woman , but I did , nice to hear it from a man father husband & sons perspective and hear the pros and cons. As a proud SA woman living in USA I’m still proud of our OLD SADF , the days we listened to forces favorites and sent our love msg over the radio. It was always vasbyt min dae ❤️❤️❤️
Very informative - really enjoyed the interview. Thanks Johan.
I did a diver course with a RECCE and a SELOUS SCOUT back in 1979...The trouble we got into was too funny.
If you don't mind me asking, which country did you serve for?
I was in the 82 basic training intake on the Bluff at 1RR. Straight from school. Made basics but failed the course. Went on to be a specialist signals operator. The most professional group of guys to work with. Salute
Hi bud. I was also 82 intake, basics at 1 RR. Same place , same year. I think we were the first intake to do basics at SFS. My basics corporal was Van Vuuren. :-)
@@jeffayliffemedia273 wow. Hi Jeff. My name is Bernard Saayman. Yes we were the 1st group. I was in platoon 3 and cpl Fourie was our basic training cpl. I can't remember the other cpl name. Small world.
@@slohand6 yep, small world. Do you remember Cpl Fabricious. 🙈😂 Sadly Maj Powers has passed away.
@@jeffayliffemedia273 yes I remember cpl Fabricious. Major Powers was on another level. He nailed my ass on the beach walks Saturday mornings. Cpl (K-word) Smit remember him?
@@jeffayliffemedia273you own Jeff Ayliffe media?
Met johan last night,truly a great man with great stories to tell and alot of knowledge to share
Wow very very lucky!
The first couple of days I was at 5 SAI in '92 they came round trying get guys to try out for recces. No one took them up on the offer, which is hardly surprising, considering we were still shell shocked at being ripped from Civvie life and had only left school 4 weeks before at the age of 17 or 18. A few guys tried out for Bats and a couple made it and off they went to Bloem. The recces were disbanded in '94. The ANC were terrified they'd be used against them. South African Special Forces were reformed under SA Special Forces Brigade banner.
Fuck me. I must be getting on In years. Started my Nat Service there in June 74, got past the Bat selection course there (1 day) and headed to Bloen via train a few days later. Did the rest in Bloem, PT course, Hanger course and then static training. Still got my original beret and wings. Some of us Durban fellas went to 21 days DB for AWOL for a fat jawl back home. Oh well, I still here at 67 ready to get motivated if required. ❤️ from Durbs / Samora. Hey
Fantastic interview, the guy is spot on with 90% of his comments
Fascinating look in the PMC world. Thank you for this interview.
how refreshing to see an interview where no one has an agenda except to state the facts as they are on the ground...
a legend sir
First time coming across your channel! Really enjoyed this conversation and Johan's perspective. Great interview.
Well spoken, i remember the reccees well, strong silent,and deadly, very nice story to tell, greetings to all the Fox bat fighters ,Johan Holm, George Schoeman, Neville Beechy,Volgraaf,Neil Lombaard, you will be rememberd, 🙏🏻
Great interview 👍🏴☝️👹💥💥💥
So glad to find a South African podcast that I can relate to. I am a nature guide. Awesome content I will be watching more..
'One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."
But who decides? Who should be our god? The UN or the one with the biggest stick, or both. Maybe its the media or scribes of history that decide who was right and who was wrong.
Nelson Mandela was a "TERRORIST"!
@@toast2610 Whoever wins decides.
@@alastair9446 But Empires don't last, and a future one can always turn the tables on which was terrorist and which was not.
@@toast2610 Maybe, but the likes of Mugabe and Nelson Mandela were part of an organisation that did acts that would be considered terrorism by definition. They are in power and connected to others in power, therefore, they get to write the history books and portray themselves as heroes and I don't see in the foreseeable future that changing and over time people won't really care what happened unless it serves an agenda. Perhaps one could be both a terrorist and a freedom fighter.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesian_Bush_War#/media/File:Victims_of_the_Vumba_Massacre,_1978.jpg
Excellent interviewer. Gets out of the way of the guest who is all important and has so much to share. Thank you!
2013 April in Bangui I was there. And may our fellow 29(Paratroopers) guy's continue to Rest In Peace🙏🏾..
29? What you mean 29
RECCE ONLY THE BEST ,WE NEVER FORGET
My oom het nogsteeds daai recce se beret,die donnerse parabat.
The problem is that for those that didn't actually forget.. the Recces and others did absolutely nothing in SA's real time of need. The only BEST thing they were good at was delivering SA to terrorists without one shot being fired.
'The political change had to come and we all know that ...' what a professional.
Blood Money was an awesome book to read, great interview.
ANC have destroyed so much of South Africa. We got nothing left to be proud of.
ANC did not retaliate to the atrocities nonsenses. say thanks to your Mandela. we are engaging on reversals today...Land Expropriation. South Africa will be fixed at the Total Equality on Land first, then the ANC will please you late. worry you not,,,,, watch us soon. LAND FOR ALL.
@@kgomotsozele604 O fok , jy is dommer as grond . Jy sal nog grond moet vreet . LAND FOR A FALL .
@@kgomotsozele604 Dumb AF. Do u even know how to grow your own food? Or look after your own animals?
kgomotso zele. Yes. All the land must be given back to the SAN people and all those black tribes from north & east Africa must all go back. PS, ASAP 😂😂😂😂🥂🥂🥂🥂👍🏽
@@kgomotsozele604 You have had the land for 25 years, and tell me, did anything improve for you and your family ?
Heard nothing but good things about South African contractors in Iraq. SADF back in the day was probably one of the most professional forces in the world.
Wow this guy really gave me a new perspective on things. Seems to be really well informed.
Ek staan by Suid-Afrika!
You need to start training units of the boere in south africa mnr
@Don Olypopper pray so
HAHAHAHA... For what?
@@EscanV careful wena
@@seanperrings8460 Are you making terror threats against the people of South Africa?
@@dissdad8744 people have a right to defend themselves against terror from the majority
"that's for my TV brah"
Don't be a wanker man
Cobus Classens must have been honored to be played by Leo D )
Being white and cut out of South African economy this man is a true inspiration to all whites
We need inspiring men. Now more than ever.
Being cut out of whaat? If you only you listened more that you talked.
Rubbish! It is the black South Africans who are cut out of the economy deliberately and still suffering the consequences.
You must be MAD and DUMB at the same time.
@@thekgi1349 well said African son💃
@@thekgi1349 you must be stupid;25 years of black leadership and BEE in SA and you still try to blame whites!?...your stupidity is laughable 😂
Can you come home with the other guys and save South Africa? We need our boys back!
Absolutely amazingly done! Thank you!
Good interview. I think these eff youngsters don't know what they are up against if they force these guys into a corner.
Rudi Kruger What will the EFF face? Apartheid South Africa lost dismally.
lol EFF slaughtering them by the dozens at the farms pissing their pants
@@vampir335 🤮🤮🤮
What a stupid comment!
@@vampir335 Eff kill old people 70s 80s cowards they don't face the young generation. do some reading. they all about rapping old lady's and killing old people
People like this are few and far between, makes one proud to be a south african !!!!
Stumbled across you looking at Capt Simon Mann clips. I am glad I found your channel, great interview, it was so good for a change, as the Captain has this rock star taint and the same old story to him now, no disrespect to him that is! Johan was realy interesting to listen to, if it went longer could have happily kept listening!
great boek.. great video
He's still talking to this day
These are the people that need to train new army recruits, SA army now looks like a joke, back then the SA army was elite.
why would you want it to get better? if it ever gets used it'll only be to attack white South Africans...
@@wandiledlamini4916 lol yeah SA is so much more peaceful and prosperous lol
@@wandiledlamini4916 These guys don't know what they are saying, our army is still strong that's why other African countries asks for assistance from them. 🇿🇦 some white guys are funny ey😂
you can get the training from these guys just join the private sector easy and you get you training top
@@rickygouveia4341any ideas of private entities that one can apply to...... Am interested in private security/PMCs
Nice work Johan. Seems like you are a great military commander. I definitely want to get the book now.
Super editing, there.
Haha... love his explanation of the more sophisticated brits and Americans, I lived in NYC for 28 years, know exactly what he means.
6:40 he was dying inside but great Job rolling w it, subbed
Very informative interview....
The Afrikaans people needs a strong minded person to take charge..So they can stop all the killings.
What are you saying exactly?
That south africa is blood stained from farm murders
@@justinhall7489 what about the other murders?
@@neonisthesecond6111 thats what he's trying to say, stop all murders
I love how they dont even cut the clip when his phone rings... lol
Glad I watched. Very intelligent, well spoken guy. Will read his book
Great interview.
Can we have him here saving us
Very interesting. Interview subject is intelligent and balanced.
Fair point at the start of the book which General Montgomery said, however a German general named Erwin Rommel stated in his dairy after trying to conquer the city of Tobruk from the allies.
"If I had to take hell, I would use the Australians to take it and the New Zealanders to hold it."
Not trying to shine a spot light, but thats a much bigger saying
You are trying to put the spotlight on it otherwise why would you say it. Considering Tobruk was made up of various armies mainly Aussies and the brits suppied them and eventually relieved them so why this comment?
Thoughtful bloke
My uncle was in Slagboom
Do u want an editor? I'll edit it for you
We worked with them in Namibia.
Going for 17 years in Iraq this year, (PSD) went through all good and bad..Still going strong..
My pops was a Master SARG. In the FFL ..WAS GOING TO MOVE TO AFRICA WITH ALL HIS BUDDYS ..THERE WAS A BUNCH THAT ALL MOVE TO THE SAME PLACE ..KINDA WISH HE DID..BASICLLY FROM WHAT I HERE ..THEY STILL ARE THERE ..AND IM SURE ..SECURE IN THERE OWN LITTLE WORLD ..WHO WOULDNT LOVE THAT...NOT TO MENTION BEING WITH LIKE MINDED.AND NO B.S...NOBODYS DUMB ENOUGH TO MESS WITH THEM...LIVING THE LIFE ..
I'm also gonna join the FFL thank your dad for his service
We fight it now, my name is Wikus Stoffberg.
Ja. Durbs here.
Awesome interview, thanks guys.
Nice interview
Readers believe me when I Say that no one can really understand what a Recce is - IRON FIST FROM THE SEA - The best of the best !!! Wragtig !!!
Lots of fascinating stories and information. Vasbyt from an old SADF tiffy.
Such fascinating stories, excellent insight!
I,m one of EX Afghanistan special forces member I did many missions with us special forces now I,m in Dubai I work as security with a private security company they pay very less salary which is not enough for my monthly expenses.
was there since 1969!
So educational great interview.
Mooi!
I've read a shitload of books about sf guys and I've read in one of them that the South African Recce selection is hands down the hardest. It could be bullshit, because every one of the books is subjective, but I found it interesting. I'm guessing the SA Recces are a very small SF unit. There's not much available info about them.
"Recce: Small Team Missions Behind Enemy Lines" by Koos Stadler provides great insight into this unit.
Legacy interviews SADF Special Forces, You tube channel, there is a lot there to, believe it .... there is no BS about selection, less than.05 make it,
Did my diving theory classes at Durban Undersea Club in the 70's with some recce commandos. Met a Major Kinghorn a number of times back then. I think he actually headed up he recces then. Tough bunch.
good man
That Nick Berg video was so gnarly.
Very interesting interview. But could have used an edit on the telephone ring incident.
Great interview found it very interesting...l served in the Middle East in 1967
Yster! Groete uit Suid-Afrika.
Great interview and interviewer!
Who else saw a miniature rifle with suppressor?
@John Smith nope m4 carbine
@@maxcady645 Well spotted!
@@PrenticeBoy1688 thanks mate
Dankie Johan Raath dat jy hierdie Geskiedenis en gebeure openbaar maak. Ek het jou naam gesoek in Genl. Jannie Geldenhuys & Kie se boek,"ONS WAS DAAR, wenners vd OORLOG om Suider-Afrika", en kon dit nie daar kry nie. Jou familienaam het ook 'n klokkie gelui. Pets Marais se werke,"Die Vrou in die Anglo-Boereoorlog 1899-1902", JP vd Walt-uitg, 1999, is daar wel 'n "Raath", maar die spelling is ietwat anders.. On the question of language. Afrikaners have English as a second language and it was not loved. (In 1937 it was nearly NP policy to stop English as official language. - English is the language of the conqueror. Same as you have today with the ANC in control - they don't like Afrikaans. The consequence that Afrikaans is dropped as a language of the Court, the Police, Universities and the State... ) Afrikaners of your and mine, our Fathers and our Great fathers generations used English out of necessity. I am refer to the book of journalist Chris Louw, "BOETMAN en die swanesang van die verligtes", H&R-Uitg., Kaapstad, 2001, Chris was also Recci-like soldier. The min. nr of words to communicate in a language is about 1000. Native English speaker (US, UK, NZ & Aussie) will use 3 000 and more words. And form that a non-English speaking ppl will understand us better. (We use less words.) Ich und dich leren aber Franzosisch. "Apprendre le Francais." The South African Economy is derogating and Afrikaans speaking Whites will have to change. Change their language or change their ethnicity or just leaf... Meci Beaucoup.