Moog Muse 8 Voice Poly Synth Review: Arpeggiator, Sequencer & Stereo Panning Features Explained

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  • @Noisegate
    @Noisegate  6 місяців тому +2

    We're loving Muse so far, interested to hear what you think of it so far. Let us know in the comments below ⬇

  • @ronsunsinger483
    @ronsunsinger483 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the deep dive into the Arp/Seq. Nice detail of the many features. I was told that some of the coolest features were to be found here, but had not seen a good demo of Arp/Seq until yours. Thanks for your time and energy to put this together. Looking forward to seeing what else is on your channel.

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you! The sequencer/arp features are so deep. One thing we didn't even touch on was the gestural control, Moog have a great video that explains it o their YT channel.

  • @The_Sonic_Oasis
    @The_Sonic_Oasis 6 місяців тому +2

    I knew from the opening performance that this thing is going to a beast!!!!

  • @HiLoMusic
    @HiLoMusic 6 місяців тому +6

    Your color-grading and light bloom looks really nice :)

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  6 місяців тому

      we will pass this on to our editor, thank you!

    • @Whityfisks
      @Whityfisks 6 місяців тому +1

      gay comment.

    • @pimhansen6720
      @pimhansen6720 6 місяців тому +3

      @@Whityfisks No thank you.

  • @LesFarrington
    @LesFarrington 6 місяців тому +18

    I am reading some real crappy comments. People saying that it doesn’t look like a Moog. There’s nothing special about it or not distinctive? What kind of jaded synth laden universe do you live in?
    I was getting really tired of waiting to see whether the Muse was going to be worth money. I ended up buying an Alesis Andromeda, which is a phenomenal synth by any measure. That was last week. So now finally, the muse is out. I’m gonna buy it. It sounds fantastic. All of those people who say that it’s not an actual Moog because it’s from China just live in some kind of synthesizer fundamentalist religion. Whether you like it or not, every day is a new day. And because of this move Moog has made, they’re going to be much more prolific and reasonably priced at that. Synth is only $3400. I personally think masterpiece.

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  6 місяців тому +1

      great points.

    • @fjfrancois
      @fjfrancois 6 місяців тому

      Dude this synth is pure ❤

    • @dy6682
      @dy6682 6 місяців тому

      Closer to $5k in Canada ! So moog is now manufactured in China ? Interesting to know .

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  5 місяців тому

      @@dy6682 Not that we are aware off! Muse is assembled in Asheville.

    • @kierenmoore3236
      @kierenmoore3236 5 місяців тому

      @@dy6682. Taiwan.

  • @ultramet
    @ultramet 6 місяців тому +32

    The more I hear these demos, the more I want to buy one. Problem is I just bought a 3rd wave and I’m trying to stay married.

    • @brucebennett5338
      @brucebennett5338 6 місяців тому +2

      yeah, i'm now divorced. hang in there. i want the muse, the 3rd wave, and the polybrute 12 (but i'm paying alimony, so...) :/

    • @audiolego
      @audiolego 6 місяців тому +1

      If I'm to start over, 3rdwave desktop, Moog Muse, IMac m3 computer with Studio One DAW, Quantum Mk2.

    • @oscallator20
      @oscallator20 5 місяців тому +5

      Yea same thing , I told my family I was gonna go a get some milk , but stead a when to buy the Moog Muse , and left the country , best decision I ever made 🙌

    • @alainthiry3965
      @alainthiry3965 4 місяці тому

      exactly the inverse, plus i listen plus i find it thin and flat...

    • @jameschenoweth9404
      @jameschenoweth9404 Місяць тому

      The third wave is an amazing instrument! This looks amazing too.

  • @narfsounds
    @narfsounds 6 місяців тому

    Nice one Lachy! Can’t wait for mine to arrive!

  • @Mauriceok
    @Mauriceok 3 місяці тому

    Really Excellent Review, thank you, we have just ordered as a result 👍

  • @samprock
    @samprock 2 місяці тому +1

    Enjoyed your demo of ARP/SEQ back then. Muse may seem simple but very approachable. Enjoying my Muse now. TNX

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you so much! Glad your enjoying your new instrument

  • @joshandrsn5936
    @joshandrsn5936 5 місяців тому +2

    Hurry up and get in stock in Australia! I’m ready to go

  • @jeffoff7795
    @jeffoff7795 2 місяці тому

    This synth sounds so lush. I would love to own a poly Moog and this one is reasonably priced considering what it can do. I've heard a lot of demos and it's expressive. Each player seems to create something unique with it. I can't justify it at the moment. I just bought a Sequential T5 which, while not on the same level as the Muse, is a very nice sounding, versatile synth. I'll find a way to justify it eventually.

  • @seanpumper
    @seanpumper 6 місяців тому +4

    This thing is killer

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  6 місяців тому

      Sounds so good. Sequencer is also really fun.

  • @jeredalmeida1880
    @jeredalmeida1880 6 місяців тому +2

    I love this thing already. The OBX will always be my fave but the Muse seems to have more fine parameter control.

  • @jelms152
    @jelms152 6 місяців тому +1

    great overview coupled with some lovely playing!!

  • @fiddlestickzmuzik
    @fiddlestickzmuzik 6 місяців тому +8

    the reason there's none in stores, all the synth-fluencers have them all..😄

    • @straighttalk2069
      @straighttalk2069 6 місяців тому +1

      That's one reason I'm not interested. It's basically another analog poly that despite what people are claiming is not all that cheap I would prefer 2 x OB6 desktop for the same price as this.

    • @dy6682
      @dy6682 6 місяців тому

      I agree . They all seem to have money as well

  • @RayyMusik
    @RayyMusik 5 місяців тому +1

    I‘ve had my Muse since 2 August 2024. Normally I don‘t by brand-new synths due to the usual teething problems, but the Muse has been quite stable from the start, i.e. Moog did their homework instead throwing this synth on the market prematurely. Remember people being disappointed when there was no Muse at Superbooth? It wasn‘t there for good reason!
    Sonically it is a dream of a synth, playing in one league with the OB-X8 and the Prophet-10, but with the typical Moog flavor. Don’t listen to people telling you that it “doesn’t sound like a Moog“! That is 100% BS.

  • @oblitafier
    @oblitafier 6 місяців тому +5

    Amazing. I don’t see Sequential selling many Trigon 6 keyboards now.

    • @jumpstar9000
      @jumpstar9000 6 місяців тому

      I bet the second hand market is going to get flooded right now with people wanting to switch up

    • @entropybentwhistle
      @entropybentwhistle 5 місяців тому

      Mooginess was the Trigon’s selling feature, wasn’t it? Will be interesting to watch Reverb for the next little while.

  • @Screaming-Trees
    @Screaming-Trees 6 місяців тому

    Pretty awesome.

  • @Claude_van
    @Claude_van 6 місяців тому

    Nice reverb!👍🏿

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  6 місяців тому +1

      Its actually the Stereo Diffusion Delay module! No actual 'reverb' so to speak!!

  • @gourkernow5694
    @gourkernow5694 6 місяців тому +3

    The Jupiter 8 has finally been surpassed

  • @etpslick100
    @etpslick100 6 місяців тому

    I saw three video demos of this synth. I like it! I like the price; better than the last one. (And that synth was a beast; just expensive!) I hope they’ll come out with a table top version of this.😕🎹🎶👍🏾

  • @christoroppolo8742
    @christoroppolo8742 День тому

    I wish the sequencer was tied to the patches . I think every patch should contain everything that is a part of it including note data in a sequencer made for that patch .i know you can tie them together but it doesn’t really make sense when some of us struggle to write original sequences not use one that was a part of another patch already . Layers too. Everything under the patch name . 👽

  • @LachlanVines
    @LachlanVines 6 місяців тому

    You get a like just for that intro

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  6 місяців тому

      Thanks :) to be honest that preset plays itself.

  • @porknwithbill
    @porknwithbill 6 місяців тому

    Wow, getting some CS-80 sounds at the begging there

  • @christoroppolo8742
    @christoroppolo8742 День тому

    Does the global setting have a function to use external clock for frame accurate clock with intervals in both the modulation sources and note data? That detects the clock globally once detected? 🤔

  • @LesFarrington
    @LesFarrington 4 місяці тому +1

    I had gotten tired of waiting so I bought an Alesis Andromeda A6. A week later THE MUSE was released. I still want one although the Andromeda is probably a superior instrument but THE MUSE SOUNDS SO SWEET! I guess my goal is analog heaven.

  • @edenhunter9904
    @edenhunter9904 6 місяців тому

    go oz boy!😊

  • @MikkelGrumBovin
    @MikkelGrumBovin 6 місяців тому

    OMG !

  • @erichkohl9317
    @erichkohl9317 5 місяців тому

    This is out of my price range, but I hope it succeeds because I think it kicks a$$. 😀

  • @naturesound2963
    @naturesound2963 5 місяців тому +2

    How about oscillator-drift? Is it adjustable or naturally there? And can the "modulation" oscillator also be used as a 3rd Oscillator-bank, like the two others?

    • @payt01
      @payt01 5 місяців тому +2

      There's no 'vintage knob' or anything like that. The oscillators drift naturally though, just like they did on the classic machines. And yes, the mod osc can be used as a 3rd osc.. but believe me, 2 oscs give you a really big sound already, adding the 3rd one is often almost too much!

    • @naturesound2963
      @naturesound2963 5 місяців тому +1

      @@payt01 Wow, thanks for your answer. Is there a tuning-knob on the synth bec. of potential too much drift? Do you think, that this synth is really comparable to the once "Memory Moog", so many people do miss, or had just lost a lot of money to repair it, or to "stabelize" it in its circuits?

    • @payt01
      @payt01 5 місяців тому +3

      @@naturesound2963 Yes there are a few ways to tune it. There is one where it tunes all the elements meticulously, one by one and that takes over an hour to do. There's also the quick tune option, which is the one you normally use, and that takes about 2 seconds.
      Comparing it to the memorymoog is difficult, as I don't have one. At best I can compare it to a software emulation of a memorymoog, which I may do. I was able to replicate a few sounds from a youtube video, but that's kind of a long shot from comparing with the real thing.
      Having said that, technically the Muse pretty much has everything the memorymoog has, and the Muse sounds enormous. If you like the Moog sound, you really can't go wrong with it.
      It's not an Oberheim or a Prophet though. While you may be able to get similar sounds, it really is it's own thing :)

    • @naturesound2963
      @naturesound2963 5 місяців тому +1

      @@payt01 Thanks so much for your really good and detailed answers :) I have ordered one right now.. :D and I earnestly hope, the the "Muse" doesn't have all the "childhood diseases", like I knew them from the Memory Moog and the Moog one, too. My impression by listening some of the videos, also especially one, where Muse and One got compared is, that the Muse sounds a lot *fatter and a lot more moogish* (like the old times), than nowadays moogs like the "Voyager" or the "One". Not really sure about the M. Voyager, but I do have the original Mini Moog Model D at home since 1980 (Model was from 1977), and I have to say, that the Moog Voyager does not sound as good and brutal, as the Mini Moog sounds.. ;D

    • @payt01
      @payt01 5 місяців тому +2

      @@naturesound2963 Congrats on ordering the Muse! I'm not havin gany issues with mine, so I expect that yours will be fine too!
      As it happens, I did just post a little comparison video which ytou may enjoy! It really pays off to roll your own presets :) If you want it to sound like a memorymoog, you totally can! But it can be it's own thing too, and actually offers many more features then the memorymoog did.
      Anyway, wishing you a grand ole' time with your new inhabitant in your studio :)

  • @toi_techno
    @toi_techno 6 місяців тому +2

    Cool vid
    They should have made it so you can unclip it in the middle on a hinge, so two people can play it at the same time

  • @HerbertMoore-n9u
    @HerbertMoore-n9u 5 місяців тому

    I’m an aspiring recording producer, engineer, or just a rinky dinky beat maker. Why do I need this machine? 🤷🏾‍♂️ 😮🎉

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  5 місяців тому

      Its Poly and got that Moog sound baby, what else do you need to konw?

  • @Batsinthebelltower
    @Batsinthebelltower 2 місяці тому

    So excited for the muse but search all the tuning issues people are having , even on the moog official forum there are tonnes and moog arent replying , very disappointing. Few people had their muse replaced and the new one has the same issues , im thinking of trigon 6 instead but the 49keys is so limiting compared to 61

  • @naturesound2963
    @naturesound2963 5 місяців тому +1

    Yeah, CS-80-like sound-impressions, but just missing the poly-aftertouch or MPE-magic ..

    • @N-trepid1
      @N-trepid1 5 місяців тому

      Agreed! Which is why I've been giving the PolyBrute 12 at hard look. It would be interesting to see a demo with the Poly12 emulating some of these Muse CS-80 like brass patches. If its close, I will go PB12-- for the Poly aftertouch MPE.

    • @naturesound2963
      @naturesound2963 5 місяців тому +1

      @@N-trepid1 Sadly you cannot compare the good old and true Moog sound with the PB 12. It is nice, but never can reach the with and widness as well as variety of the Moog sounds, as they took the old original circuits inside. So I ordered the Moog now, because the sound-with, the *depth* and variations are most important to me..

  • @quadwould
    @quadwould 6 місяців тому +1

    the Polymoog and Memorymoog are also pronounced M-oh-g and not moo-g (as indeed as also the Micro and Multi and all other instances of the letters "moog" in relation to the company or products

  • @colinodea2407
    @colinodea2407 5 місяців тому +2

    Effects section ?

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  5 місяців тому

      No as such. At 07:00 we talk about the Stereo Diffusion Delay which allows you to create delays and reverb like effects! Very nice adds a lot of depth and you can bypass if you'd like to maintain an analog signal path.

  • @jeredalmeida1880
    @jeredalmeida1880 6 місяців тому +3

    I wish Moog would've built in a ribbon strip like the CS 80.

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  6 місяців тому +1

      That is such a good idea!

    • @brageboogie
      @brageboogie 6 місяців тому

      Buy an Andromeda to use as a controller!

    • @The_s_d
      @The_s_d 5 місяців тому

      connect a touché

  • @infestedalien
    @infestedalien 6 місяців тому +11

    I know this wont be a welcome comment but I think this machine sounds more similar to Jupiter and CS-80 and a slightly bit of a moog.

    • @electrowayne2918
      @electrowayne2918 6 місяців тому +9

      Agree .. which = sounds awesome

    • @infestedalien
      @infestedalien 6 місяців тому +1

      @@electrowayne2918 yeah this is a synth that is interesting soundwise for me. But I am not so 100% with the panel layout. But perhaps its ok after some usage. This might be on a longrun save up who knows. There are too many good synths released in a quick time now

    • @electrowayne2918
      @electrowayne2918 6 місяців тому +3

      @@infestedalien Good Idea. I was contemplating the OBX-8 months ago. But something told me to hold off. I think I am going into the direction of the MUSE. I'm trying to narrow my synths down to synths that cover alot of basis + bread and butter sounds.. I have a prophet 5 for analog and Dx 7 for FM tones. If I get this. my JX3p and Poly61 are on the chopping block. If I MUST have a classic roland tone. The alpha juno under the bed will cover that. So I think the muse is a go for me. I'll give the OBX-8 one more look though.

    • @infestedalien
      @infestedalien 6 місяців тому

      @@electrowayne2918 its definently worth taking time over the decision. Wait a bit and you will have tons or muse vs synth x on youtube

    • @justaregularrobloxplayer5678
      @justaregularrobloxplayer5678 6 місяців тому

      @@electrowayne2918you could consider the TEO-5

  • @UncleMilty
    @UncleMilty 6 місяців тому

    I thot it sounded really grainy at first then l noticed my speed was 1.25🤣

  • @TheCanadianDreamEvergreen
    @TheCanadianDreamEvergreen 6 місяців тому +2

    How’s the bass compared to a sub 37? Does it have the Moog low end?

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  6 місяців тому +5

      It holds up for sure! There are a bunch of voice controls for designing bass sounds and the mixer lets you overload and introduce clipping. In 8-voices that's a lot of bass. Output is nice an loud.

  • @WesWookBeats
    @WesWookBeats 5 місяців тому

    12:30

  • @brucebennett5338
    @brucebennett5338 6 місяців тому

    want

  • @TherasiaGeorion
    @TherasiaGeorion 6 місяців тому

    Besides the Moog name. This or a Polybrute 12?

    • @fjfrancois
      @fjfrancois 6 місяців тому

      Moog ❤

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  6 місяців тому

      Good question, we have a video coming out on Polybrute 12 soon. I would say very different instruments however.

    • @naturesound2963
      @naturesound2963 5 місяців тому

      Polybrute sounds more thin and more digital a bit..

  • @papatoni3311
    @papatoni3311 5 місяців тому

    tAmber

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  5 місяців тому

      Lachy gets this wrong 100% of the time, every time. 😅

  • @life-is-inspiring3953
    @life-is-inspiring3953 5 місяців тому

    Sequencer copies idea from pro 3

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  5 місяців тому +1

      Not really. Its similar, but doesn't 'copy'. The Pro 3 doesn't have many of the generative capabilities of Muse. Also, the sequencer is independent of the patch, unlike the Pro 3 so you can play any patch with the sequence you have loaded.

  • @naturesound2963
    @naturesound2963 Місяць тому

    *IMPORTANT UPDATE* : I bought this Moog, and now it comes: Sadly "Moog Muse" had terribly disappointed me.. To turn this keyboard on, it needs more than one minute time (!).. Functions are not working well, lights are turning off and on rapidly with no meaning. The fastness of the envelope-generators are *MUCH* too slow.. Faster played chords doing unwanted fast arpeggios. I have tested all, and even the new software (1.2) didn't delete all these major-bugs, so I have to warn about that.. De-tuning is a strong problem, even the tune-function does not work. The keyboard also was hanging after programming faster sequences.. The sound all in all was thin and not as fat as my old Mood products (Mini Moog, Memory Moog). My impression: this instrument is too digital controlled inside by very slow and worst .. often not complete processing. I was sending the Moog Muse back to the seller and I have to say, there is something terribly wrong with this new Moog and it even doesn't sound like a typical Moog at all !
    Even the sound is poor and not thick. Too many other synths sound more full, rich and fast (envelope generators), and the filter here doesn't keep, what they promise !!
    *Forget* actual "Moog" products. They are not, what they are speaking about and promise.
    The direct comparison with my old Sequential Circuit-products and many strong tests had finally opened my eyes after many hours, guys.
    Wake up .. and stop believing in any advertisement of Moog.. Sorry for all, who were falling into that trap, like me.. 🤷‍♂

  • @gerritveldhuisen7748
    @gerritveldhuisen7748 5 місяців тому

    8 Voices 😆😅🤣😂😛😜🤪Chinese

  • @ageshero
    @ageshero 6 місяців тому

    I don’t think the sine waves are supposed to sound that nasty…😅

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  6 місяців тому +1

      We'll take it as a compliment!

    • @prezdentraygun8790
      @prezdentraygun8790 6 місяців тому

      Looks and sounds like the noise level might be turned up for some break up.

  • @dy6682
    @dy6682 6 місяців тому

    Should Yamaha montage be worried ?

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  6 місяців тому +1

      Different sort of Keyboard! Montage is a digital workstation, Muse is an analog synthesizer.

  • @jamesdaniels3699
    @jamesdaniels3699 6 місяців тому

    With all the news on this new toy,does anyone know what the price in US dollars?

  • @Deeplycloseted435
    @Deeplycloseted435 6 місяців тому

    This is weird. I just wasn’t expecting much from Moog after they were bought out. This doesn’t look like a Moog. Doesn’t really sound like a Moog. Yet, I think it sounds tremendous. Its feature set amongst modern analog poly is totally unique, and I love it. Wow. 2 filters, parallel or stereo……YES.

    • @andreasoberg2021
      @andreasoberg2021 6 місяців тому +2

      This was designed before they were bought

    • @philtrickey
      @philtrickey 3 місяці тому

      My first synth was a Moog Opus III - in my opinion the Muse is quite similar looking, so I think it defo has a Moog look and feel to it. Can’t wait for mine to arrive.

  • @Riktenstein
    @Riktenstein Місяць тому

    I am so glad this Moog exists. However it doesn’t sound like a true Moog. It’s just not right.

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  Місяць тому +1

      Interesting! The oscillators sounds pretty Moog on their own.

  • @prezdentraygun8790
    @prezdentraygun8790 6 місяців тому

    Player's board.

    • @Noisegate
      @Noisegate  6 місяців тому

      Yes! Very much so.

  • @gerardsyd8320
    @gerardsyd8320 4 місяці тому

    il parle trop !

  • @mybachhertzbaud3074
    @mybachhertzbaud3074 6 місяців тому +2

    Just speaking for myself, I would prefer a "Muse" that has blonde hair,blue eyes and a great pair of legs.😜🎶🎹🎶Play On

  • @axelmaldini4218
    @axelmaldini4218 6 місяців тому +1

    It sounds OK, not better than DIVA by U-He...just sayin'

  • @sierrasamusic
    @sierrasamusic 6 місяців тому

    i thought Matriarch was also polyphonic (which would make it the 5th poly synth)

    • @geirnordheim6986
      @geirnordheim6986 6 місяців тому +2

      Matriarch is paraphonic not polyphonic. I had it and it sounds fantastic, but I could not enjoy playing with only paraphony so I sold it. Now Muse is exactly what I have been waiting for. The «same» VCO´s and polyphonic. Its on its way to me from Thomann right now ❤

  • @THA-REAPER
    @THA-REAPER 6 місяців тому

    Looks and sounds nice, but the price...maybe later. I have enough that sounds very similar like 5 times over.

  • @deanbr6ndo70
    @deanbr6ndo70 6 місяців тому +2

    Meh.

  • @gretareinarsson7461
    @gretareinarsson7461 6 місяців тому

    I find the Polybrute synths from Arturia far more exciting.

  • @victorvargas49
    @victorvargas49 6 місяців тому

    I'm very disappointed, they made a failure, I don't know, not a single sound is usable

  • @LesFarrington
    @LesFarrington 26 днів тому

    As painful as it may be to admit, All these complex, brilliant, fascinating instruments on the market currently are basically overkill relative to the audiences whether live or streamed through popular music. I confess that 90% of the electronic music I create, is self indulgence for my own entertainment. Audiences in general respond to simple arrangements and simple tones. In Way Too Many popular releases I’m hearing a tuned kick drum providing the tonic and one or two simple synth tones under a highly autotuned vocal. The great cheapening of art was predicted years ago. I lust after synths for my own sanity