If you hate your hihats, watch this video

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  • @OscarUnderdog
    @OscarUnderdog  11 місяців тому

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  • @mjbellantoni
    @mjbellantoni 11 місяців тому +65

    Oscar, sometime in the last few months your videos have just gone to another level. Super practical, inspiring, and just a lot of fun to watch.

    • @M.W.777
      @M.W.777 11 місяців тому +1

      I concur!!

    • @aiden7274
      @aiden7274 11 місяців тому

      Yes, so much value in these, thank you Oscar, amazing work!

  • @cavedwellersound
    @cavedwellersound 11 місяців тому +6

    Man your tutorials go above mere education, this is wisdom

  • @samprock
    @samprock 11 місяців тому +31

    One technic I developed for myself is to have different hi-hat sounds on L/R or L/C/R. This make search space wider and finding groves more fun. Can’t wait for 12 update to get more playful with midi manipulation features.
    Plus what you’ve listed, Oscar, in such a pristine presentation. Great delivery, enjoyed your skills on top of musical inspiration.

    • @Endle185
      @Endle185 11 місяців тому +2

      Must sound great on a mono club set up.😂🇬🇧😂😂

    • @samprock
      @samprock 11 місяців тому +3

      @@Endle185 One place my music will never play is in club LOL Best case scenario in ear buds and studio cans of few dedicated friends listeners …. one of them is … me 😂

    • @JamesMcMeeken
      @JamesMcMeeken 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Endle185this won’t necessarily mess up the mix on a mono sound system. It’s the phase of stereo effects you need to watch out. You can and should always check mix in mono as part of the mixing process

    • @JackBlackNinja
      @JackBlackNinja 11 місяців тому

      @@JamesMcMeekennot just phase effects. Also just simple loudness. When layering things that share frequencies, you’ll probably need to turn down the elements being layered more if you just used on of the elements alone

  • @minde1337
    @minde1337 11 місяців тому +5

    One of my favorite vids from this channel by far

  • @MagnusThorJonsson-v8z
    @MagnusThorJonsson-v8z 6 місяців тому +4

    I took a forced hiatus from my production journey 3 years ago and I have been dipping my toe back into the whole production game again and I am glad that my reentry was on your videos. A lot of little techniques you casually demonstrate have turned out to solve so many issues I didn't know how to solve. Especially on the various ways you create that little bit of movement that I could never get right

  • @NebulizorOfficial
    @NebulizorOfficial 11 місяців тому +13

    Hats off to you sir! :D

  • @ThePaulynho65
    @ThePaulynho65 11 місяців тому +70

    johnny sinns really can do any job

  • @martinstagnaro
    @martinstagnaro 10 місяців тому +1

    Ty Oscar. You put some groove on my hats and a smile in my face with the level four

  • @Andrew-rz7qt
    @Andrew-rz7qt 5 місяців тому +2

    So I made my self a coffee, grabbed the chocolate biscuits and watched this 3 times.
    When I finish watching I gave myself a few minutes to think about what I was going to do and wrote a bassline then went to work on the high hats.
    This is the first time I have been happy withy high-end because they both worked off each other. Thanks mate ❤

  • @Nexusjmusic
    @Nexusjmusic 11 місяців тому +3

    Loving these videos so much. The emphasis at the end of every video on HAVING FUN is an all-too-needed reminder to our community. So important to love the process & stay inspired.

  • @dominikschneider7794
    @dominikschneider7794 4 місяці тому +1

    I recently start watching your videos after finishing a ton of courses in the last three years. You surprise me with teaching me so basic elements with such an extraordinary love for the detail and perfect demonstration. Thank you, i am a big fan now!

  • @Extaz93
    @Extaz93 5 місяців тому +1

    Your videos are getting better and better and it's a pleasure to see you enjoy the process of doing music and sharing tips.
    I've been struggling with life and two an almost two years break for production, and what made me start making music everyday again was that little smile on my face while in the process of creating. I'm not focused on the result anymore (which sometimes led me to a lot of frustration) but on the journey, and it is so much more rewarding !

  • @xmeoff
    @xmeoff 11 місяців тому +4

    What a great tutorial. As someone who is lazy with drum programming, especially when it comes to hi-hat patterns, you’ve opened my eyes to what is possible. Thanks so much, I’ll be spending more time on my hi-hat patterns in future 😊

  • @mttlsa686
    @mttlsa686 5 місяців тому +3

    When you said "name one genre without hi hats", instantly came to my mind "Oasis" by Peter Dundov. It's not a genere but it's a track without top end elements. The only top end element you can hear (at the last part of the track) is actually a noise layer, following the main synth envelope/filter. I love that track. Heard it for the first time played by Ernesto Ferreyra at the end of a 4 hour House/tech house dj set in Rome (so it was totally unexpected to listen to a 10 minutes classy underground techno track. We all asked for a last record and he pulled out this absolute psychedelic trip in acoustic form. I flew. What a night.

    • @reculture
      @reculture 5 місяців тому +1

      What a killer of a track! When you've mentioned Peter Dundov and 'psychedelic', have you listened to "Distant Shores" track? What you think of it?

    • @zubileegluckgluck
      @zubileegluckgluck 5 місяців тому +1

      'we will rock you' by queen also has no hihats, it'a all stomping, clapping and guitar.

    • @OwenKicksLive
      @OwenKicksLive 7 днів тому

      ok,then is tauromachine a series of really long slow hihats?

  • @Hari-du6pt
    @Hari-du6pt 11 місяців тому +2

    I really love how in all the arts the artists use words like "airy dustiness" to describe stuff, so cool.

  • @willespalazzo
    @willespalazzo 11 місяців тому +2

    OSCAR, you are seriously one of the best dance music educators out there, thanks for another masterclass

  • @helixrider
    @helixrider 11 місяців тому

    Especially the reminder to keep it simple totally gets me. My HHs are mostly wayyyy to busy and over the top… 🤪🙌

  • @CypiXmusic
    @CypiXmusic 11 місяців тому +6

    This comes in the perfect time. Been searching for how to improve my hats for a while. Hope this thing is gonna help a bit

  • @AbrahamHicksCorner67
    @AbrahamHicksCorner67 2 місяці тому

    Hey Oscar, thank you very much. Enjoying a lot the educative and intelectual approach while being extremely creative. In 8:37, when you cicled through your hats with that Sampler technique, it sounded really gnarly... some playing around with resampling could yield very interesting results.

  • @streglof
    @streglof 11 місяців тому +31

    Nice! Please do shakers and tambourines next. I struggle.

    • @mollyoko
      @mollyoko 11 місяців тому +1

      buy one get a mic, shake it, record it , put it in sampler. genius.

    • @Pavillionairez
      @Pavillionairez 11 місяців тому

      Aaaah....i think you mean the Shirley's and the Twirlies

    • @malegria9641
      @malegria9641 8 місяців тому

      Shaker- literally just use some white noise with hipass and shortish delay.
      Tambourine- don’t know how to help you here, sorry ;-;

  • @sloopdop8943
    @sloopdop8943 Місяць тому

    My god… the select parameter to scroll samples has made my drum rack template so much more useful. I was able to setup a similar rack in Bitwig based on this video. You’re the best!!!

  • @ko_3x335
    @ko_3x335 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for this very great Video. Right on the Point, pls stay on this Level. Love your Channel

  • @RogerFaught
    @RogerFaught 11 місяців тому +5

    I took "name one genre of music that doesn't use hi-hats, you can't" as a challenge: various ambient styles don't often use hi-hats.

    • @rufflefpv
      @rufflefpv Місяць тому

      Classical music?

  • @DielectricFailure
    @DielectricFailure 11 місяців тому +2

    I had to been my weakness for probably the past two years since I started trying to write this type of music. Thank you so much for showing how you create manually the swing-groove!

  • @lightburning9693
    @lightburning9693 11 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant opening description. Theory of hats! love it.

  • @AATAMI_Patrick
    @AATAMI_Patrick 11 місяців тому +4

    Also one of the main issue I see in tracks made with sample packs containing loops (of course used unedited): The loop(s) don't match in groove or even fight against each other. I see this a lot both in drums as well as any other elements. Your lesson was very valuable, I think. Great work.

  • @iamtheguitar
    @iamtheguitar 9 місяців тому +14

    "Name one genre that doesn't use high hats!"
    "Baroque!"
    "I know it, you can't!"
    "Oh okay I can't!"

    • @OscarUnderdog
      @OscarUnderdog  9 місяців тому +1

      Hahahahaha i cant argue with that

    • @19Lqueen17
      @19Lqueen17 9 місяців тому

      I thought of gamelan music, but baroque fits too.

  • @Azalraku
    @Azalraku 11 місяців тому +3

    This is 100% an area I'm lacking. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

    • @M.W.777
      @M.W.777 11 місяців тому

      Hell yea

  • @gmidlive
    @gmidlive 14 днів тому +1

    What a gem of a video! Thank you, Oscar.

  • @cheetahlion79
    @cheetahlion79 6 місяців тому +1

    That arrangement flow using the rhythmic cell was immediately useful. I rely too much on the randomize buttons. However this process made me realize that, even within one bar, there needs to be a more structured feel (for what I want to dance to). I started reworking a track I've been fighting with and within 5 mins it was 65% better.

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 11 місяців тому +2

    Oh good, you sat down after the intro. That stance is a spine killer, maaaan.

    • @CatFish107
      @CatFish107 11 місяців тому

      Also, I don’t have a sampler, and refuse to take the time to learn a DAW. Happy to apply the ideas to other gear / software though!

  • @MyshkoMusic
    @MyshkoMusic 11 місяців тому +2

    Hhahahah I LOVE the energy right from the start 😆
    I can tell you had a lot of fun recording this video :) Great work!

  • @maxmustermann-cy9zn
    @maxmustermann-cy9zn 3 місяці тому

    damn, I dont think I've ever had someone explain this in such a straightforward yet entertaining way. Thanks man!

  • @crunkdwscrew
    @crunkdwscrew 11 місяців тому +12

    Can you make a video diving deeper into the idea of a ‘global groove’ that you hit upon at 18:30? And Techiques to further accentuate the global groove of a track - like compression, etc.

  • @the_tp
    @the_tp 11 місяців тому +4

    dude, honestly, at second 48 I stopped the video right now and gave u a streight thumbs up :D these are the vibes man haha love your vibe! and now putting on my helmet to be prepaired for the gems u`ll throw at me in the video! ;)

  • @dennisrochat7747
    @dennisrochat7747 11 місяців тому +1

    Think you’ve outdone yourself with this one. Good stuff. Also the intro was so fun hahah

  • @stefankatic1337
    @stefankatic1337 11 місяців тому +1

    Looking forward to watching this! Just what I needed.

  • @LautaroGutierrezArbiza
    @LautaroGutierrezArbiza 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge! Extremely helpful

  • @selfconscious_glider220
    @selfconscious_glider220 11 місяців тому

    Dude I love the way you teach. It involves both the heart and the brain elements of music.

  • @uhhhclem
    @uhhhclem 11 місяців тому +3

    This is really great, inspiring stuff. Though I have to say, the section on group design has a really strong "now draw the rest of the owl" vibe.

  • @cassiomendes13
    @cassiomendes13 11 місяців тому +3

    More cowbell!
    Excellent video, Oscar!! Thank you!!

  • @delugedj
    @delugedj 11 місяців тому +1

    hahaha this is great. on point and fun. good to see ya happy bro! thanks for the vid x

  • @Fundaground
    @Fundaground 11 місяців тому

    Some of us old fogies program on hardware and I still find this info useful. Bravo

  • @bladelores-o1k
    @bladelores-o1k 11 місяців тому +3

    Fun and well put together!

  • @krispysox
    @krispysox 11 місяців тому +2

    I like to think that groove is the play between the hats and their troop of subplayers, in the 16ths and beyond.

    • @krispysox
      @krispysox 11 місяців тому

      I feel touched to get a like from the maestro!

  • @emnigmamachine
    @emnigmamachine 11 місяців тому +38

    I hate to say it but hi hats are always an afterthought for me. Gonna change that now

  • @AlexblackTV
    @AlexblackTV 6 місяців тому

    I always put your videos when i need some kind of inspiration or motivation, thanks a lot!!!

  • @FaBianrecord
    @FaBianrecord 11 місяців тому +6

    Almost 25k people hate Hi Hats! Good video, was fun to watch.

    • @M.W.777
      @M.W.777 11 місяців тому +1

      That's funny lol

  • @Georgemelhem
    @Georgemelhem 11 місяців тому +1

    Love you papppi always fun and engaging educative videos 😘😘

  • @iraklismoschonas5214
    @iraklismoschonas5214 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video, thanks Oscar! I almost always lower quite enough the level of my hi-hats, so they can be heard less, but still be felt in the track.

  • @meis18mofo77
    @meis18mofo77 11 місяців тому +4

    You should check out Au5's FM technique for synthesizing cymbals. Noise based Hats don't always work and they can get a little dull if overused.

  • @i4mt1m94
    @i4mt1m94 11 місяців тому +1

    Literally watching this on the bathroom... loving your videos btw such good work and of great value all the time

  • @Jo_van_Tatz.aka.Mr.T
    @Jo_van_Tatz.aka.Mr.T 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks a lot Oscar !
    one of the best hi hat tutorial i've seen now !
    nice and funny , some of the steps were really nie to see and hear :)

  • @7thNoteOfficial
    @7thNoteOfficial 11 місяців тому

    The dance at the end bro 😂😂👏🏾👏🏾

  • @akmumtaz6723
    @akmumtaz6723 11 місяців тому

    Hats have always been an Achilles heel for me, where i have disregarded projects just cuz I couldn’t get the tops right. THANK YOU for this! Im certain I won’t be repeating past mistakes again and have fun experimenting with the most hypnotic part of a track 🤘🏽

  • @nathanbryers
    @nathanbryers 2 дні тому

    Nice groove here… I’ve been using your jacking hihats till now so this is another cool formula - thanks Oscar 👍🏼

  • @pavlekocbek
    @pavlekocbek 9 місяців тому

    this is a nice channel, professor. It's very nice to watch this for me. Affirmative to my pioneering and deepest top underground secret research lab work at the dawn of electro. So glad to see other researchers,scientists and professors came to the same results, solutions and paradigms.I Look forward to watching more and enrage in debates about new breakthrough solutions, ways, levels and future experiments.

  • @lnnerTemple
    @lnnerTemple 11 місяців тому +2

    Amazing and helpful as always❤

  • @shala_shashka
    @shala_shashka 2 місяці тому

    One thing that i don't hear talked about often is making certain hihat samples that are mono have spread.
    One easy way is to do it with a Haas effect but that effect may not always work.
    The way I've been doing it is putting an ambience reverb on it (usually no more than about 25% wet) and sidechaining it to a room reverb and moving the fader up/down to taste (though I usually find about ~3db-9db less than the main hihat channel usually gives a subtle spread that doesn't completely wash out the hihat). It may or may not be beneficial to add an imager on the drum buss as well.
    This works for pretty much any drum sample, but it is good to be careful with low-frequency heavy samples (like the kick or a fat tom, etc.) for the sake of phasing - it also should be noted if you want to do that with low-end heavy samples, it usually works better if there's more mid/high-end on the attacks for extra impact, and keeping the verb more subtle than the rest (again, phasing, and it also sounds a little unpleasant depending on what you're making/going for).
    Anyways, that's my technique for spreading out mono samples, I'm sure there's other ways to do it that might actually be easier or more efficient. Thought i could add to this :)

  • @Grooveshaper
    @Grooveshaper 10 місяців тому

    Very cool!!! When I started watching your lessons, I finally started to understand how it all works!

  • @drydessert4198
    @drydessert4198 11 місяців тому

    Aside from smaller aspects, the main deal with hihats is what function they are supposed to cover in a track and how you achieve that. A very important aspect is how high in the frequency spectrum high hats and other individual cymbals are and which and how many you layer to create and take away tension and drive throughout your track. The same goes for the envelopes. In certain genres (like Berhain Techno: Subzero (Original Mix) · Ben Klock) you have a low frequency shaker type of sound, a low pitched sample probably. In more forward going tracks you would have more layers and rides in particular to add more and more drive. Sometimes, you can use noise sounds (like noisy vinyl sounds or background noise floor from an analog recording). These sounds have more of an aesthetic function in contrast to a hardgroove Techno track where the hats are supposed to drive the track forward.
    You made a video about music having to have a steady element so that groovy elements can be groovy in relation to the steady element, the metronome video. That is one purpose of hihats, not the only one but an important one. And I would say that with hihats, you can create patterns that are not just 4/4, 8/8 metronome type of click tracks but are groovy yet serve as metronome of sorts. But you need to have the idea that some tracks have that and that this is a thing. Then you need to find out how to do it (hint: short rhythmic patterns that drive the track forward and have a recognizable identity. So you need to make it a bit interesting otherwise it's too generic. But when you try to make it too clever, it's going to be too clunky.). You added modulation on the decay. That is a good idea but it wasn't rhythmically functional but random. Can use intentionally make some sounds have different attacks and decay phases so that this creates a certain rhythm? Can you then modulate these to make the contrast stronger and then dial it back again to help evolving the entire track? Can you use pitch on your hihat samples to create and take back tension?
    What can you do with delay and reverb on individual hihat tracks, or even individual hits (so just one particular hihat hit instead all hihats of that type)? Take a listen to Beautification by David Alvarado to get an idea. When you use white noise to create hihats, where do you distinguish between a hihat function and a snare drum/percussive function? What other effects are useful for hihats (distortion, flangers with and without envelope followers, phaser, ...)? What is the relationship of hihats and snare drums in Techno and House? Can snare drums be an extension to hihat tracks with more weight? ... There are so many more things about hihats..

  • @Sundownerrr
    @Sundownerrr 11 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant as always - love your dancing 😅

  • @wethepeople6940
    @wethepeople6940 8 місяців тому +1

    You are an amazing teacher!

  • @sajp8859
    @sajp8859 11 місяців тому

    This is great as far as programming is concerned. However, years ago when trying to solve this problem, I just went to the local pawnshop and bought a pair of old Ludwig high hats, riveted the bottom cymbal, and it has worked like a charm with my tube vxl mic for over 10 years! Change rooms, use plate, try a large picture window with a surface mic to get that weird phasey sound like when a car drives by-no probs! I also mic up a $20 pawnshop snare drum-great variety of sounds!
    Good info though Professor! Thanks!

  • @docjoesweeney
    @docjoesweeney 11 місяців тому +1

    Got my education pants on! Great session. Definitely learning something good.

  • @docjoesweeney
    @docjoesweeney 11 місяців тому +1

    This video was absolutely perfect. A niche topic, but so well described

  • @nimbusnoise
    @nimbusnoise 11 місяців тому +5

    I live for that ending 😂 go off king 🔥

  • @omapots
    @omapots 10 місяців тому +1

    Great intro!! 💯 and overall content of course

  • @ryanperrault8174
    @ryanperrault8174 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for making this....One of my weaknesses in production I think...Could always use more Hi-hat tips.

  • @Bass_Nomad.
    @Bass_Nomad. 9 місяців тому +1

    hihats are those things where the open one is between the kicks and the closed on every sixteenth. that sums up my hihat pattern i use. i hate programming them, usually i just get some top loop or a shaker and be done with it.

  • @MessingerDAD
    @MessingerDAD 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks so much, you are a great teacher! ❤

  • @isabellapakulska
    @isabellapakulska 11 місяців тому +1

    Another fantastic video, thanks Oscar! If anything would be good to elaborate a bit on where all the percussive elements sit programing and frequency wise..

  • @54dermot
    @54dermot 6 місяців тому

    You're in particularly good form in this one Oscar

  • @straightforwardAcidTechno
    @straightforwardAcidTechno 11 місяців тому +1

    your video's are so good! Thanks for the info's, just by listening to you I learned so many things... Thanks for sharing al that knowledge!!!

  • @AndyMangele
    @AndyMangele 6 місяців тому

    I'm not a drummer (a home recording guy though) and I love the HiHat and the things it can do -
    in most of the cases it defines the whole pulse for a piece.

  • @ANHN_Project
    @ANHN_Project 11 місяців тому

    Cool lesson! Thank you.
    For me very useful tweak - hearin' drum lessons or breakdowns and try to imitate what i hear - live pro-drummers used some "drum magic" =)

  • @cassettedisco6954
    @cassettedisco6954 11 місяців тому +1

    Amigo muchas gracias por tus consejos realmente son muy buenos y te cargan de energía, saludos desde México 🇲🇽

  • @brezskrben_fant
    @brezskrben_fant 11 місяців тому

    Oh my god! It was such an awesome tutorial. Thanks man!

  • @dj_instruments937
    @dj_instruments937 11 місяців тому +1

    A video on the hi Hats and the "groups" would be appreciated. Like actual visual demonstrations changing out hh for rides, using and adding an energy reverse etcetera and building a solid drum groove. Just want to improve my drum programing. Thanks in advance 😊

  • @FfanitTech
    @FfanitTech 9 місяців тому +1

    Legend! Fantastic video

  • @antondhondt9851
    @antondhondt9851 11 місяців тому

    Gosh, KHS transient shaper is in this vid - absolutely love this freeware transient masterpiece! In my humble opinion, delays are always top-notch for giving hi-hats more flight - the trick from the dawn of dance music (early "Prodigy" albums and so on).
    Besides, I recommend the advanced trick with MIDI arping. Any MIDI Arp plugin gonna work, but in freeware terms "Fanan Team - 999gen2" is just excellent for hi-hat variations. I am not an Ableton bloke, but the FL Studio one - in FL Studio MIDI Arping looks like this: freeware Grace sampler with any hi-hat on the board + Fanan 999gen2 = GREAT FUN!

  • @edoardobrenna1389
    @edoardobrenna1389 5 місяців тому

    You re my new favorite channel

  • @arturom628
    @arturom628 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you!! Super timely. I was just struggling with mine a few hours ago 😢

  • @raakam52
    @raakam52 11 місяців тому +1

    Yo I'm glad I discover this channel, keep up the good work !
    By the way I'm from Belgium too :)

  • @kgbinfo
    @kgbinfo 10 місяців тому +1

    if you hate your hi hats, get a freaking 606!

  • @iggysixx
    @iggysixx 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi hats convey the feeling of the bpm / speed of the track. A 160bpm track with consistent 16ths on the hihat can FEEL faster than a 180bpm track with only kicks on the 1/4 notes (and the occasional 1/8 accent kick)

  • @alprakra
    @alprakra 11 місяців тому

    I opened my third eye and took a hit from a bong, am I ready for the lesson now?

  • @Animo1681
    @Animo1681 11 місяців тому +1

    loved the intro!

  • @jean-marcdecanter7719
    @jean-marcdecanter7719 11 місяців тому +1

    Very good job ! Helpful for me.
    High hats are as important as kick !

  • @enkidux88
    @enkidux88 2 місяці тому

    Best school and teacher ever!

  • @dzaxys4643
    @dzaxys4643 11 місяців тому +2

    I can think of a bunch of genres that don't use hats but we mek techno and we need hats so lets goooo

  • @sophiefau1648
    @sophiefau1648 8 місяців тому +1

    thank you!! amazing video :)

  • @bengineer_the
    @bengineer_the 11 місяців тому +1

    Sounds wicked!

  • @antonynewland5834
    @antonynewland5834 11 місяців тому +2

    This is good because there’s a tendency to program hats in predictable ways I find , and I want to find different/ more interesting approaches 👍👏

  • @StephenJPilat
    @StephenJPilat 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video as always!

  • @BFHPET
    @BFHPET 11 місяців тому +1

    pls make more of this and rhythm stuff there isnt alot of that on youtube

  • @davidjangdal
    @davidjangdal 11 місяців тому +3

    Hey!
    Amazing job as always ❤ But where was the best part, "Stay producing, be good to each other and take care" ?

  • @slavak592
    @slavak592 11 місяців тому

    Really good video, short but super informative, thanks so much underdog

  • @nicolasrouiller3885
    @nicolasrouiller3885 11 місяців тому +1

    so simple but so deep, thx Oscar!