Non-Legendaries That Are Actually Good in Ubers

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  • Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
  • 0:00 Introduction
    0:44 Ferrothorn
    1:46 Darmanitan-Galar
    2:40 Blissey
    3:42 Weavile
    4:36 Dracovish
    6:06 Buzzwole
    6:51 Ditto
    7:31 Magnezone
    8:30 Slurpuff
    9:11 Shuckle
    9:45 Toxapex
    10:24 Aerodactyl
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  • @idkmirror
    @idkmirror Рік тому +2138

    As an honorable mention, definitely Unaware Quagsire. While it sees almost no usage in Ubers anymore (due to it's main niche, being a Zacian check, no longer existing), I'd say it still deserves the spotlight for it's past feats. Quag still remains a stall staple in even AG after all.

    • @z69b
      @z69b Рік тому +14

      what’d they change that made it no longer viable

    • @raegatan2110
      @raegatan2110 Рік тому +280

      @@z69b Zacian being banned from Ubers.

    • @Hegener.
      @Hegener. Рік тому

      @@z69b moved Zacian to AG, Quagsire was basically the only reliable counter

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Рік тому +122

      @@z69b It's litterally in the main comment

    • @z69b
      @z69b Рік тому +9

      @@raegatan2110 oh

  • @jamiebrand2294
    @jamiebrand2294 Рік тому +899

    I love how parasect has a niche in earlier gen Ubers because of spore + water immunity

    • @ArbitraryOutcome
      @ArbitraryOutcome Рік тому +54

      Also Ariados in Gen IV Ubers.

    • @grunkleg.3110
      @grunkleg.3110 Рік тому +28

      @@ArbitraryOutcome Not as much a niche, as it is hoping you don't know the MU. Can't even learn X-Scissor in this game, it can't OHKO Darkrai

    • @janamohr448
      @janamohr448 Рік тому +19

      @@grunkleg.3110 it makes it into a matchup guess. If its put into swarm range with an attack it can ohko, if it uses a sleep and its against insomnia then it wastes a turn and ariados can win. Still bad, but it doesnt auto lose to darkrai

    • @MrZahsome
      @MrZahsome Рік тому +12

      *angry kyogre noises*

    • @pooppooper9033
      @pooppooper9033 Рік тому +6

      @@grunkleg.3110 Ariados is mainly trying to stop Deoxys Speed. Darkrai having to worry about whether it has Swarm or Insomnia.
      Swarm will make Bug bite an OHKO I believe (or at least Bug bite into Shadow sneak), while Insomnia will make Dark void a waste of a turn, allowing Bug bite twice.

  • @gregorymirabella1423
    @gregorymirabella1423 Рік тому +300

    reminds me of how garchomp demolished gen 4 ou and then proceeded to do the same in ubers because the only ubers steel type was dialga. since dialga didn't resist dragon, everyone had to dip into ou for their steel types, which were all the pokemon that garchomp could break through anyway.

  • @gio9255
    @gio9255 Рік тому +507

    Before Urshifu-SS and Calyrex-Shadow came to Ubers, Aegislash was still very effective in ubers. It beats all the psychics with shadow ball/shadow sneak strategies, walls Zacian, Zamazenta, and Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, and can heavily cripple walls like Groudon, Lugia and Giratina with toxic/king shield strategies. Urshifu-SS and Calyrex Shadow obliterated its uber niche unfortunately but it is still effective under the right conditions.

    • @quinndepatten4442
      @quinndepatten4442 Рік тому +37

      Aegislqsh can't have shit nowadays. I played xy, so I don't know if I should feel bad or not.

    • @thefoodyscarecrow7391
      @thefoodyscarecrow7391 Рік тому +3

      crunch zacian :>

    • @niar1726
      @niar1726 Рік тому +5

      @@thefoodyscarecrow7391 Zacian isn't allowed in Ubers

    • @thefoodyscarecrow7391
      @thefoodyscarecrow7391 Рік тому +24

      @@niar1726 it was at the time of aigeslash

    • @ila_habsyi21
      @ila_habsyi21 Рік тому +15

      @@thefoodyscarecrow7391 Crunch zacian was rare it usually run either of It's stab moves, close combat,swords dance,and assurance

  • @dabmonstr7403
    @dabmonstr7403 Рік тому +357

    I wish temp6t fans don't find this video
    Also funny thing why do they just never realize the fact that in vgc your only allowed two legendaries and if you could everyone would run several of them

    • @AllesZuSpaet53
      @AllesZuSpaet53 Рік тому

      I wish temp6t didn't exist. Dude makes the fakest vids ever

    • @zarkguy
      @zarkguy Рік тому +4

      Lmao

    • @Walrus5
      @Walrus5 Рік тому +214

      temp6t fans when they find out his strategies don't work past 1100 ELO

    • @Mixedplayers
      @Mixedplayers Рік тому +11

      At least he says sometimes when these things are skits

    • @thelamp547
      @thelamp547 Рік тому +6

      Auto play sent me here from a temp6t video

  • @rush22071
    @rush22071 Рік тому +147

    In gen 4 ubers literally everything with a water immunity or a priority move has a niche due to how strong kyogre and deoxys speed are.

    • @ommnon
      @ommnon Рік тому

      gamstrodon

    • @snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
      @snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 Рік тому +12

      It's awesome how the addiction of stuff like Stealth Rocks, Light Clay, Focus Sash and Life Orb turned Deoxys Speed from being the worst Gen 3 Uber to a great Gen 4 Uber.

    • @agentblackbird9435
      @agentblackbird9435 Рік тому +17

      Ariados: You called?

    • @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160
      @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160 Рік тому +3

      *Sad Wooper nickednamed redditor noises*

  • @towtaling
    @towtaling Рік тому +313

    Personally I think Klefki has a spot in Ubers! Even though it’s mostly seen in national dex AG but I believe that it’s prankster spiking a thunder wave support is useful! It’s also a pretty good counter to other mons with the steel typing.

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 Рік тому +59

      Back in X/Y it was one of the main stays of the tier as one of the few reliable answers to Xerneas

    • @alohaboy3570
      @alohaboy3570 Рік тому +2

      Who asked

    • @joelarmando9187
      @joelarmando9187 Рік тому

      setup fodder for dark types

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 Рік тому +12

      @@joelarmando9187 the only dark types in Uber are Yveltal, Weavile Urshifu and Tyranitar, and they're not exactly setting up on Klefki (plus Urshifu is 4X time to Fairy and Klefki tends to run Play Rough in Uber from memory so it doesn't relish switching in since it's a bad prediction away from taking way way too much)

    • @joelarmando9187
      @joelarmando9187 Рік тому

      @@sephikong8323 still gets walled by magic bounce users(although seldom used) and psychic terrain users like fightinium z/scarf lele
      excadrill is immune to twave and has rapid spin
      in natdex, arceus forms can use defog and refresh to counter twave and hazards. arceus ground is also common, usually having a super-effective stab against it, and immune to twave.
      as op said, klefki is usually seen in natdex ag(although i dont see it at 1650)
      klefki is also overshadowed by hazard setters like shuckle, and screen setters like grimmsnarl
      leftovers bisharp with no bulk isnt even 3hkoed by play rough and immune to prankster.
      taunt also cripples klefki, and taunt can be used by a lot of common threats in ubers tier.
      not to mention electric types, like koko, which can run heavy duty boots and wall klefki.
      if it can have "a spot in ubers" just because it has priority + utility moves, then why shouldn't triage comfey be in ubers?

  • @reddy4play
    @reddy4play Рік тому +112

    Shedinja and Clefable are staples on some of my best ubers teams. Unaware+recovery and Wonder guard forces a lot of switch outs and can be very helpful

    • @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160
      @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160 Рік тому +5

      Shedinja IMO is a handle with care mom that should run a focus sash most of the time. I did that on an AG team with the point of being a scapegoat pick that could potentially get picks and not die while using it as the scapegoat it was on my team to be.

    • @TheFlameJolt
      @TheFlameJolt Рік тому +5

      @@cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160 this aged poorly didn't it

    • @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160
      @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160 3 місяці тому

      @@TheFlameJoltTerra ruined it by making it immune to direct attacks

  • @JamesJones-ts5fl
    @JamesJones-ts5fl Рік тому +47

    Great vid as usual man; love seeing ubers get some love. A few more off the top of my head:
    Shedinja: great kyogre and xern answer
    Zarude: not as common anymore but fun caly and zygarde check due to jungle healing.
    W
    Obstagoon: caly check with a strong facade and knock
    Tyranitar: rocker, caly check, yveltal and eternatus check
    Umbreon: wisher, cleric, caly check
    And a lot more. It’s def no OU but more diverse than people often think.

    • @yeet8036
      @yeet8036 Рік тому +6

      I think the reason why people don't like ubers is because "muh legendary spammers don't have any skill!!!1!"
      Also bw ubers my beloved

    • @NeonWasInUse
      @NeonWasInUse Рік тому +3

      I know it's Legendary, but Regieleki deserves a special mention too, as due to how rare Ground Types are in Ubers bar Groudon, and Zygarde, who will not even be on every team due to a Electric Immunity not being required on every team like it is in OU, it's actually FAR more effective at enabling offense teams with its mix of offensive presence, and utility than it is in OU, and even in the worst case Scenario where your opponent DOES have a ground type, Regieleki's Role Compression still means that at the very least you still have a spinner that's extremely annoying to spinblock, speed control, and a method to force heavy damage with Explosion depending on if you opt for it.
      It's only C Rank for a reason, and its Power is a bit underwhelming due to how bulky everything is in Ubers, but there is still something to be said about its niche, and how it's a surprisingly usable pick for Offensive teams.

  • @lukaskback9710
    @lukaskback9710 Рік тому +27

    I feel like the main strength of Ferrothorn's typing compared to other steel types is that it resists Water, and that it isn't weak to ground. Water types are hard for other steel types to check, and they also struggle with everything running Earthquake to cover for them.

  • @Mixedplayers
    @Mixedplayers Рік тому +69

    Ferrothorn and magnezone are my two favorite steel types so I'm happy they are competitively viable

    • @djdrizzy9139
      @djdrizzy9139 Рік тому +7

      I'm really happy for Ferro since I love Grass types.

    • @ispeakcockney5387
      @ispeakcockney5387 Рік тому +2

      I'm glad that Magnezone gets body press to compensate for the removal of hidden power

    • @houraisheperd9721
      @houraisheperd9721 Рік тому +1

      Ayyy, fellow Magnezone lover. Great taste my friend.

  • @serenolopez-darwin1975
    @serenolopez-darwin1975 Рік тому +24

    Great video, there is some important stuff missing.
    Ferro, Slurpuff, Shuckle, Aero: Webs/Rocks are more valuable in Ubers than in OU because of the lack of versatile removal and the more threatening sweepers in the tier. This is why dedicated lead sets are seen here but not in lower tiers.
    Darm: Darm's speed tier was actually not great in OU, but Ubers is actually slower because for some reason many ubers pokes have

  • @theimpersonator7086
    @theimpersonator7086 Рік тому +125

    I always think of how Gastrodon has a niche in some Old Gen Ubers due it having Storm Drain and Thunder Immunity to help vs Orge.
    You also have Wobbufett and Goth having uses in Old Gen Ubers, but that just speaks to how stupid STag is an ability imo

    • @darianclark3980
      @darianclark3980 Рік тому +14

      Actually, Quagsire was the one in Gens 3 & 4 that had that niche of walling Kyogre.
      Gastrodon needed the Storm Drain rework/buff in Gen 5 to wall Kyogre.

    • @theimpersonator7086
      @theimpersonator7086 Рік тому +13

      @@darianclark3980 Guess you can always count on Quagsire in dealing with absurdly broken stuff like Orge or Zacian

    • @vyktorehon5995
      @vyktorehon5995 Рік тому +1

      @@theimpersonator7086 yep

    • @criskooo2802
      @criskooo2802 Рік тому +13

      @@theimpersonator7086 Unfortunately quagsire needs unaware to check zacian, but without water absorb would get completely destroyed by kyogre, so he can't check both of them at once

    • @justinchoy476
      @justinchoy476 Рік тому +4

      live slug reaction

  • @CoffeeFlavoredMilk
    @CoffeeFlavoredMilk Рік тому +31

    Cloyster has actually been consistently usable in Ubers even when it was considered mediocre at best in the tier it found itself in. Typically it doesn't go for Shell Smash sweeper sets but instead it sees use as a suicide lead with Rapid Spin. Shell Smash is key to its success in later gens though and like Weavile Ice STAB is a great asset to have in a tier with so many Dragons and Pokemon like Yveltal, and for this purpose too good physical bulk is a good asset for Cloyster to have. Ofc it has glaring weaknesses like bad special bulk and mediocre at best Speed. Its B- in Gen 8 but its been ranked higher in prior gens, being B in Gen 7, and B+ in Gens 6 and 5. This is particularly notable in Gens 6 and 7, where Cloyster sits in the C rank of both ORAS UU and USUM RU.

  • @Connor_Kirkpatrick
    @Connor_Kirkpatrick Рік тому +12

    There's no rush like leading shuckle, using sticky web, swapping into dracovish and watching as the opponent forfeits

  • @darianclark3980
    @darianclark3980 Рік тому +5

    Quagsire: This was Ubers!? I was just walking by.

  • @de_lectionnes_illustribus9155
    @de_lectionnes_illustribus9155 Рік тому +104

    Seeing all of this makes me wonder what would look like tiers where all ban list are removed before going through the usage rate method. While Ubers itself would not change, what would the lower tiers look like ? I could easily see a tier where most of the unused Ubers legendary form their own metagame, before we get tiers resembling what our OU and UU look like.
    Alternatively, would it be possible to create an UnderUbers tier following the usage rate method and see if it is interesting ?

    • @olivergro7105
      @olivergro7105 Рік тому +16

      I think your first idea would create alot of chaos, although the second idea seems really cool. Maybe split take all the ubers below c tier and put them into a tier

    • @Qvartz_Lite
      @Qvartz_Lite Рік тому +37

      UU Ubers sounds like a good idea

    • @grunkleg.3110
      @grunkleg.3110 Рік тому +27

      Ubers was originally just a banlist, but nowadays, it's pretty much a regular tier composed of banned Pokemon. You could make a tier composed of underused Ubers by usage

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 Рік тому +5

      Might be interesting. I definitely like the idea to turn any large chunks of unusable pokémon (be they borderlined between certain tiers, or be a list of pokémon outclassed in PU that are more numerous than the ones that are effective in PU) into a tier of its own instead of letting a big portion of the pokédex fall to the wayside completely.

    • @theoverlord4060
      @theoverlord4060 Рік тому +8

      @@Qvartz_Lite a friend of mine made a tier called OUBL which has all the unbanked ubers

  • @jarrettesposito5953
    @jarrettesposito5953 Рік тому +3

    Freezai always coming at us with a thorough and professional pokemon explanation. Great work as always!

  • @TheMe9595
    @TheMe9595 Рік тому +32

    Quagsire is always my favorite. Especially because it countered Zacian while it was there.

  • @EpicNinjaShiro
    @EpicNinjaShiro Рік тому +3

    Dumb things I've used hilariously in Ubers on monotype teams:
    Corrosion Salazzle with toxic (scarf optional)
    Aftermath Skunktank with haze and fun set (plus sash) which has saved me against a few sweepers before
    Adaptability Crawdaunt (focus sash) aqua jet, crabhammer, knock off, avalanche
    Immunity Snorlax
    Technician Persian with coverage moves like Icy Wind
    Somehow I forgot my Krookodile (Assault Vest) Moxie, Close Combat/Darkest Lariat/Earthquake/Scale Shot, the scale shot has come in clutch before in ubers.

  • @pixel3042
    @pixel3042 Рік тому +40

    Video ideas: pokémon with amazing stats or one really good stat, but still suck, like Rampardos.
    (No Archeops, Regigigas and Slaking please, they've been talked about enough)

    • @dabmonstr7403
      @dabmonstr7403 Рік тому +13

      Rampardos literally only has a good attack. But I agree and also want the reverse of that with the best example being ferrothorn with less than 490 bst

    • @vyktorehon5995
      @vyktorehon5995 Рік тому +2

      Haxorus and chandelure?

    • @razorgliscor940
      @razorgliscor940 Рік тому +6

      @@vyktorehon5995 chandelure is good in lower tiers and haxorus is banned from RU

    • @vyktorehon5995
      @vyktorehon5995 Рік тому +1

      @@razorgliscor940 it's not good enough to be in UU unlike previous gens

    • @naganut9718
      @naganut9718 Рік тому +3

      @@vyktorehon5995 their still solidly strong though

  • @archlorddestin
    @archlorddestin Рік тому +71

    At this point, you could also do non-legendaries that are good in the OU tier. There are 15 legendaries + 3 ultrabeasts in the OU tier, which contains 36 pokemon, so about half the tier is legendary.

    • @SeriousStriker
      @SeriousStriker Рік тому +31

      I feel like that would be boring compared to this tbh, as OU's power level is usually where the best non-legendary Pokemon are best at. This video is more the exception to the rule.

    • @archlorddestin
      @archlorddestin Рік тому +4

      @@SeriousStriker I got the point. MY point was that OU is similar in that it's full of legendaries.

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella Рік тому +8

      This honestly doesn't feel interesting as Non-Legendaries in Uber. Most Legendaries in Ubers are the Box Art Legendaries with significantly higher BSTs than the rest, Kyogre, Ho-Oh, Eternatus, etc. Lando-T, Heatran and the others only have BSTs of 600 at best while some even have them lower such as the Ultra Beasts and the Tapus only having 570 while the Zapdos has 580. The Non-Legendary Pokemon are certainly still on-par against most Legendaries despite such stat discrepancy.
      This, however, shows just how harsh Power Creep has gone.

    • @littleDainolf
      @littleDainolf Рік тому +3

      I really hope gen 9 OU will have way less legendaries. Preferably non.

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Рік тому +2

      @@littleDainolf Koraidon and Miraidon are already confirmd. Also, other than like gen 1 games and their remakes, every box art was a legendary. it wouldn't make sense, there's supposed to be a conflict with a powerful being on your journey to get the 8 gym badges.

  • @oddgodd2273
    @oddgodd2273 Рік тому +5

    Remember back in Ubers when you were required to bring a zacian, ditto, and quagsire if you wanted to win any games. Fun times

  • @prateekkwatra4882
    @prateekkwatra4882 Рік тому +4

    I loved how he mentioned 69k subs as his goal

  • @pokemaster6673
    @pokemaster6673 Рік тому +5

    69000 subs. The biggest milestone ever.

  • @lopp3
    @lopp3 Рік тому +2

    "Why settle for something that has a butt in it" - Freezai 2022

  • @MrEon17
    @MrEon17 Рік тому

    Nice vid. Not sure if you've already done a vid like it, but briefly talking about how to potentially make the low rank ubers (legends) better although some will never get the changes/buffs they need. For example, Lugia - a very popular pokemon that has freefalled to C- or D even in swsh meta. Something like that could be cool. Cheers

  • @ZkiART
    @ZkiART Рік тому

    Man, loved the vid! Have a vid with Aim and Emvee, Iswear you would have a great synergy!!

  • @tenzindamdul9208
    @tenzindamdul9208 Рік тому

    I love this guys content I hope u get to a million sub😁

  • @danielhale1
    @danielhale1 Рік тому +4

    Ubers: Hah, look at the puny fish that's trapped among literal gods!
    Dracovish: None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here WITH ME!

    • @kefkapalazzo1
      @kefkapalazzo1 Рік тому

      Dracovish is huge lol

    • @danielhale1
      @danielhale1 Рік тому

      @@kefkapalazzo1 In the Ubers mindset, anything that's not native to the tier is tiny and insignificant :P

  • @Astra3yt
    @Astra3yt Рік тому +11

    Gastrodon is also common, but not as much in singles as in doubles. It's the perfect Kyogre check.

  • @meechie101
    @meechie101 10 місяців тому

    I used to use choice scarf darmanitan in g7 and he was nasty. Love that they updated him to mainstream play to be even better with another form option

  • @RohanJoshi910
    @RohanJoshi910 Рік тому +7

    Hey Freezai! Do you think you could do a video talking about the newly buffed crit rate starting Gen 6? I feel like a lot of people don’t know that reaching a critical hit ratio of 3 or higher guarantees permanent crits, making for some interesting strategies on mons with the sniper ability. It would also be rly cool to get any additional input on it from you.
    On an additional note, I was wondering if you were familiar with the Pokémon Radical Red metagame? It provides a lot of interesting buffs to almost every Pokémon and has a lot of theory craft potential, and I’d be super stoked if you did a video on it.

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella Рік тому +2

      Ive never seen anyone abuse the gen 6 crit mechanics besides Focus Energy Kingdra which is pretty niche as it sounds (and Sirfetch'd I guess)

  • @unnoticed9988
    @unnoticed9988 Рік тому +6

    2:29 resisted in the rain against a Kyogre and it still did nearly 30% that is ridiculous

  • @MogusMasterSaikawa22
    @MogusMasterSaikawa22 Рік тому +62

    It’s sad how little mewtwo is mentioned in Ubers anymore. The gen 8 legendaries have like 80 special attack then 150 attack and speed or the other way while mewtwos are more rounded it’s so unfair on him

    • @mintymango3717
      @mintymango3717 Рік тому +43

      Power creep. 🥲

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Рік тому +5

      *sad Mewtwo noises*

    • @purpleenthusiast5814
      @purpleenthusiast5814 Рік тому +45

      It's also really stupid how they nerfed Aegislash and then proceeded to release the most insane Legendaries we've seen so far.

    • @ahassani
      @ahassani Рік тому +38

      Ever since gen 7 gamefreak has been creating pokemon solely for competitive, and it's so trash. The best thing is when players create unique strategies and decide what's good or not, not when the fucking creators make a pokemon with 10 SpA and 180 attack/speed with an OP ability.

    • @MogusMasterSaikawa22
      @MogusMasterSaikawa22 Рік тому +2

      @@enoyna1001 poor Mewtwo right..

  • @maltl0af673
    @maltl0af673 Рік тому +3

    Ariados had a nieche in gen 4 Ubers as an lead, making deoxys only get up one spikes with x scissor and shadow sneak, then getting jts own t spikes, or countering Darkrai with insomnia

  • @ryans8081
    @ryans8081 Рік тому +10

    TTar would've been much better if Pursuit wasn't removed in gen 8, then it could've been the perfect counter to Calyrex-S (and Lunala like it was in gen 7), but without Pursuit the ghost rider and moon wing can just run away from it. Heatran also has a good matchup against Eternatus and can burn duskmane and Ferrothorn, but it has to watch out for Earthquake, fighting-types, and Kyogre too often for it to be all that useful.

    • @J_Chuks
      @J_Chuks Рік тому +1

      Also it has a really bad typing Dark/Rock 😖

    • @tangerinepaint3643
      @tangerinepaint3643 Рік тому

      @@J_Chuks And depsite that, it was OU for 7 (6?) gens straight

    • @J_Chuks
      @J_Chuks Рік тому +1

      @@tangerinepaint3643 goes to show how good the sudos were hell I still think it's in Gen 8 OU to this day

    • @tangerinepaint3643
      @tangerinepaint3643 Рік тому

      @@J_Chuks yep, dropped to UU once, went back to OU, then it never dropped again

    • @microwavedpepsi
      @microwavedpepsi Рік тому

      @@tangerinepaint3643 Gen 7 and Gen 8 UU was a really weird time, you had top mons like Gengar and Scizor crumble and drop there, only to crush everything in sight and get banned.

  • @user-he1it6hg3t
    @user-he1it6hg3t Рік тому +6

    I think Froslass is also good as a suicide lead because it can use Destiny Bond

  • @toujounozomi3126
    @toujounozomi3126 Рік тому

    Shedinja I believe sees some use: while Yveltal and Calyrex still blast through it, its immunity profile lets it absorb Fishious Rends and Origin Pulses, and can be a potential ditto-proofing method on hyper offense teams. Its utility is limited, however, by several common ubers running Knock Off or other moves it's weak to, and either hazard control on a sash variant or prediction on a boots variant is necessary.

  • @benpfeifer8192
    @benpfeifer8192 Рік тому

    i always enjoy sash endeavor trap scolipede, it’s definitely bad but can really screw over some potent sweepers and offensive threats as a suicide wall

  • @ShadowXeldron
    @ShadowXeldron Рік тому +1

    I love Shuckle! I'm glad he has some relevancy up in Ubers.

  • @__Saber_
    @__Saber_ Рік тому

    i love that saber avatar at the beginning

  • @dogboyton3166
    @dogboyton3166 Рік тому +1

    I love how high Shedinja went in National Dex when Terastalization was added

    • @dogboyton3166
      @dogboyton3166 Рік тому

      Update: Now it’s unusable because Nat Dex AG was removed. They might have to add an Electric Shedinja Terastalization Clause

  • @musikschnitzler8044
    @musikschnitzler8044 Рік тому

    I found it cool how Bronzong did this in older generations with it's combination of Heatproof and Rain or Levitate, and it's Steel typing, despite being UU or even RU by usage.

  • @dndhydrate
    @dndhydrate Рік тому

    "We are almost at 69,000 subscribers!"- I'm not on YT enough to know if this is actually a reoccurring joke for a milestone, but I got a good laugh from that.

  • @kizi2213
    @kizi2213 Рік тому

    could you do a video on nat dex ag and ag in general ?

  • @xExotic
    @xExotic Рік тому +1

    Ferrothorn is definitely one of my favorites! Bulky leech seed and rocks!

  • @merf4208
    @merf4208 Рік тому +1

    Get this man to 69k subscribers i want to witness this glorious moment

  • @nerddwarf
    @nerddwarf Рік тому +4

    Fishious Rend + Choice Band + Strong Jaw + STAB + Move First + Rain = 860(.625) Power
    573(.75) without Strong Jaw
    382(.5) without SJ or Rain

    • @javitelee9562
      @javitelee9562 Рік тому

      Imagine someone steals that with Me First

  • @kenshiro8984
    @kenshiro8984 Рік тому +1

    Great! I'd like to see the diametrical opposite of this: legendaries that are PU or below (not counting Regigigas).
    Articuno, Regice, Glastier having the horrible curse of being a slow ice type
    Galarticuno, Regirock, Uxie and Mesprit have their different niches, but are still bad in higher tiers

    • @yeet8036
      @yeet8036 Рік тому

      He made that video

    • @kenshiro8984
      @kenshiro8984 Рік тому

      @@yeet8036 thanls! just managed to find it. gonna watch it immediately

  • @Felipera_
    @Felipera_ Рік тому +2

    Imaging that on top of it all, Dracovish could potentially get the Water terastral boost as well LMAO
    Rain + Stab + Double Stab + Strong Jaw + Fishious Rend + Choice Band lmao

  • @CaptainVenusaur
    @CaptainVenusaur Рік тому

    I loved using Kabutops back in the days of permanent weather

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Рік тому +3

    4:42 Isn't it more like 382.5 base power after STAB & Strong Jaw's boost?
    Anyway, neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @justdirt
    @justdirt Рік тому +1

    So many pokemon are usually one or two creative people away from being viable in higher tiers. And because the meta changes pretty much yearly, the amount of possibilities for Pokémon to fill some weird niche or roll is always appearing

  • @FireballZora
    @FireballZora Рік тому +1

    Freezai, a serious UA-camr: we're almost at 69 thousand subscribers
    me: nice

  • @majava5282
    @majava5282 Рік тому +3

    I know shedinja isn't good in gen 8 ubers, but I think the little bug is worth a mention

  • @GymLeaderEd
    @GymLeaderEd Рік тому +1

    Tera Steel and Tera Fairy Blissy is going to be nuts lmfao

  • @Jlevens
    @Jlevens Рік тому

    Freezai keep it up on twitch and yt but make a vid about gen 2 chansey its physicly offensive and runs curse

  • @lucystarlight8887
    @lucystarlight8887 Рік тому +1

    Aerodactyl is my favorite suicide lead because it has Taunt and is fast and strong enough to not be setup fodder. You can even save it to use as a revenge killer with Focus Sash, although this obviously won't work in Ubers.

  • @SetsuStsna
    @SetsuStsna Рік тому +3

    With no more tier rises taking place, maybe a list of non OU mons that are great/good in OU would be cool. Smth like: Gastro, RotomW, Drill, Blaziken, Arctozolt, Nidoking, Nihi, GMoltres, Celesteela, Crawdaunt

  • @AtrumDelorox
    @AtrumDelorox Рік тому

    Wait, no Quagsire or Wobbafet? Or is Shadow Tag banned to AG?

  • @funkytoasts4768
    @funkytoasts4768 Рік тому +3

    I think one of my favourites yo see is shedinja. It's a c rank threat in ubers, same as slurpuff and shuckle.

  • @vanesslifeygo
    @vanesslifeygo Рік тому +1

    I'm curious about Unaware Quagmire which was mentioned in the comments but also Gastrodon.
    Anything Swampert used to do better these guys now do.

  • @junglecruiser4785
    @junglecruiser4785 Рік тому +21

    Not really ubers, but I'd also like to mention vivillon and butterfree getting usage in gens 7 and 8 of anything goes respectively as quiver dance sweepers with sleep powder. Not the most common things in the world, but it's still funny to think of those early route butterflies brawling the most op legendaries!

    • @Sikk2
      @Sikk2 Рік тому +5

      And Butterfree even with tinted lense if I recall correctly

  • @justcrafty2676
    @justcrafty2676 Рік тому +3

    Interestingly, the OU tier is now filled with legendary pokemon too

  • @erberor8007
    @erberor8007 Рік тому

    Thank you Mr Fish

  • @perladel95
    @perladel95 Рік тому

    I guess that, as you quoted Aerodactyl at the end of the video, Froslass could deserve an honourable mention as well

    • @vyktorehon5995
      @vyktorehon5995 Рік тому

      Yeah I was wondering why it wasnt on the list but alas. Maybe calyrex shadow got too good

  • @kaimanthelizardwizard1248
    @kaimanthelizardwizard1248 Рік тому

    I only ever play gen 8 randbattles but keep watching these for some reason

    • @olivergro7105
      @olivergro7105 Рік тому

      You should try out ubers! It's really fun to get a foot into competitive pokemon :) OU is way too complicated for beginners imo

  • @JumpinJew
    @JumpinJew Рік тому +1

    yo Freezai, do you mind telling me your first name?

  • @Sugarist0
    @Sugarist0 Рік тому

    Thank u, mr fish

  • @Isabelle-mp8rk
    @Isabelle-mp8rk Рік тому

    I know this is for the current gen but the stranglehold snorlax has on the entire gen 2 meta feels worth mentioning.

  • @jaspermidnight850
    @jaspermidnight850 Рік тому +6

    “hazards are good no matter what tier you’re playing in”
    doubles: **oh really**

  • @RohanJoshi910
    @RohanJoshi910 Рік тому +1

    0:41 *nice*

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 Рік тому

    I have used max defense helmet haze, knock off, infestation and recover to stall out all the non Ubers and calyrex ice. Also works on rare gen 4 legendarys and kyurem black.

  • @aurora_x86
    @aurora_x86 Рік тому

    What are your thoughts on the new VGC series 13 ruleset turning it essentially into doubles Ubers but with Zacian, 4v4, and item clause?

  • @pyromaniac000000
    @pyromaniac000000 Рік тому +1

    If magnezone is an extremely common counter to neceozma dusk, wouldnt you want to run heat wave as you last slot? The 3 core moves you want are dragon dance, earthquake and sunsteel, so having heat wave in your fourth slot to counter your #1 counter just makes sense. It does over half to the ubers trapping set of magnezone, and the only downside is if you get terrible accuracy rolls, but its better than automatically dying. Having a super effective special attacking move versus your main counter that has terrible special bulk just makes sense to me.

    • @julianokohlerdasilva3629
      @julianokohlerdasilva3629 Рік тому

      But most necrozmas dm are defensive and cant afford to run heat wave on their set just to deal with magnezone and for pretty much nothing else

    • @pyromaniac000000
      @pyromaniac000000 Рік тому

      @@julianokohlerdasilva3629 you definitely could, the main moves you run on the bulky set are knock off, moonlight and iron head, and again, the 4th slot is kinda up for grabs. And considering magnezone is a popular counter and is a guaranteed ko if they have one, and this one move counters that counter, that makes your bulky set have even fewer weaknesses. Plus the type coverage if needed is not bad, in case its your last pokemon.

  • @lunar9342
    @lunar9342 Рік тому

    I had an idea, and I'm curious if it would work- level 1 ditto holding shell bell, and with sturdy placed on it with entrainment

    • @yeet8036
      @yeet8036 Рік тому +1

      No good ubers player uses FEAR strategy.

    • @lunar9342
      @lunar9342 Рік тому

      @@yeet8036 I highly disagree, but you do you

    • @Connor_Kirkpatrick
      @Connor_Kirkpatrick Рік тому +3

      Gets bodied by hazards, status, or knock off. Doesn't mean it wouldn't work tho

    • @lunar9342
      @lunar9342 Рік тому

      @@Connor_Kirkpatrick I'm mostly just thinking about how funny it would be to kill a God with his jello child

    • @lunar9342
      @lunar9342 Рік тому

      @@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 You are all taking this way too seriously-
      I just like thinking about stuff.
      Besides, the fact that it's rare means people often won't prep for it. And it's not something I'm actually doing, it's just something I had never thought of before on my own. I'd never thought of a ditto FEAR strat, because I've always used it for imposter mirror matches, that is, if I used it at all, and thought it'd be fun to get people thinking about.

  • @Keithmasterchief
    @Keithmasterchief Рік тому

    Ttar toxapex and cloyster are also very good options in ubers ttar as a yveltel sub toxapex for stall teams (even though it is probably the worse of the 3) and clefable and cloyster as suiside hazzard leads

  • @Mewseeker
    @Mewseeker Рік тому

    No mention of the Helix? :O

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel Рік тому +4

    You definitely should have included Quagsire, because while it's not seen in Ubers anymore, that's only because both Zacian forms are banned, while they were legal Quagsire had a niche as being one of the only mons who could check them semi-consistently, wasn't scared of swords dance, and Zacian couldn't beat with a coverage move.

  • @vsilewar58
    @vsilewar58 Рік тому

    I once used a Victreebell with Growth on a Sun team with Focus Sash

  • @baldrian22
    @baldrian22 Рік тому

    the times i have gone into ubers i usualy use a sash ditto instead of the scarf. the team i usualy runs with (i just do ubers/AG with complete troll teams) is a prankster copycat encore liepeard that realy likes to troll the setup, and if they happend to g max afther getting up their boosts and take out my liepeard i just send in sash ditto, get their boosts and a lot of time i get a couple of good times, i can also end up sweeping them completly just with the ditto liepeard combo because they never expect sash ditto.

  • @twilightknight09
    @twilightknight09 Рік тому

    Why does almost everyone have custom trainer sprites in these videos? Are the clips taken from tournaments or something?

    • @perceverant4552
      @perceverant4552 Рік тому

      Yeah lol you kind of guessed it, all of the featured games are from tournaments. Most of the people in this video got their custom avatars from either getting drafted for smogon’s big official team tournaments, or outright winning smogon’s smaller unofficial team tournaments

  • @edber111
    @edber111 Рік тому

    Congrats in advance for reaching the funny number :))

  • @rugino3614
    @rugino3614 Рік тому

    Nice

  • @mileschicken1
    @mileschicken1 Рік тому

    What is the difference in using a blissey or a clefable

    • @yeet8036
      @yeet8036 Рік тому

      Clef can be physically bulky and has knock off and it can ignore passive damage or ignore stat boosts,depending on ability.
      Blissey is literally unkillable on special side and can teleport.

  • @regojozsa
    @regojozsa Рік тому

    Unaware Pyukumuku was a beast for me in the Sun/Moon days. You could run Recover, Toxic and Protect to stall, you could do Curse into Baton Pass (if I remember Z Baton Pass nullified negative stat changes so only positive stat changes transferred), or you could run Psych Up to troll those who don't know Pyukumuku has Unaware and are trying to set up, then Baton Pass to a fast sweeper...that little turd is widely said to be bad, especially because it's weak to Taunt, but otherwise it's very hard to take down so I had so much fun soloing all legendary teams in WiFi battles. Never underestimate Pyukumuku

  • @27thlegend70
    @27thlegend70 Рік тому

    unrelated but i think giving basculin (not the hisuian one) and bruxish fisheous rend would be a cool buff

  • @birdofterror6628
    @birdofterror6628 Рік тому +1

    69k subs? Nice.

  • @MegaGeewee
    @MegaGeewee Рік тому +1

    Fun fact: If Ubers was usage based, then Shuckle, Lando-T, Ferrothorn, and Weavile would all be ubers by usage. Meanwhile, some INSANE pokemon would be OU by usage, including Dialga, Lunala, Palkia, Giratina, Kyurem White, and Genesect.

  • @captain.snowman4769
    @captain.snowman4769 Рік тому

    Ribombee, depending on the circumstances, its kit is really good

  • @matkacp8880
    @matkacp8880 Рік тому

    Isn't woubuffet first non legendary uber? :)

  • @skyrander
    @skyrander Рік тому +1

    Damn i miss the good ol gen 6 days when Solrock was used as a counter to groudon and Ho-oH 😂

  • @Leet-iz2fz
    @Leet-iz2fz Рік тому

    Shoutout to Fogbandit Lake with his Yveltal nicknamed Yian Garuga.

  • @jozimastar95
    @jozimastar95 Рік тому +1

    Wait, you had skin with toxictrcty? That's cool.

  • @shellyannwilliams2852
    @shellyannwilliams2852 Рік тому

    Cloyster should have been mentioned here because its another Suicide Lead with Spikes and with Shell Smash and Ice STAB.

  • @tony_bailey2392
    @tony_bailey2392 Рік тому

    how do they get those cool character icons

    • @perceverant4552
      @perceverant4552 Рік тому

      most of the people in this video got their custom avatars from either getting drafted for smogon’s big official team tournaments, or outright winning smogon’s smaller unofficial team tournaments

  • @damcmadlad2975
    @damcmadlad2975 9 місяців тому

    Any pokemon that temp6t uses in his videos

  • @DarthNoshitam
    @DarthNoshitam Рік тому

    Is drizzle + swift swim still banned?

    • @perceverant4552
      @perceverant4552 Рік тому +1

      No. That was just a gen 5 ou thing, and even then they updated it to just outright ban swift swim.

  • @Kcolon23
    @Kcolon23 Рік тому

    Ice Tera Type Galarian Darm and Water Tera Type Dracovish are gonna be lethal if they ever happen