I mean, that really wasn't a bad speech. It wasn't very patriotic, yeah, but I'd say any self respecting soldier would be encouraged by that one. After all, there's enough wine to float a boat back in camp!
It should be noted that Jon (not John), isn't concerned with the Roman Republic. The senate dislike him, he's disobeyed them countless times, and is preparing his troops to march on the streets of Rome itself. Imperator Jon saw that putting his best, harder to break units towards the front would hold the bridge. Now, if you chose to speak against the greatness of Rome, you shall be fed to dogs for the pleasure of Jonus Brutus, on the eve of the siege of Carthage.
I have become addicted to this series. You do a really good job at playing/commenting without doing it too much. Hope this Total War series becomes a staple of your channel. There is Medieval 2, Rome 2 and others for you to play so people wont get tired of it. I certainly wont! Keep up the great work, Jon!
marciosmg just i dont know about rome 2 because i always liked the older total war games because of the general traits and things but i feel like now its pretty much ALL just about the battles which is fine but i dont like it as much
Rome 2 will be nowhere near as good, because you are severely limited in how many armies you can have, the computer cheats with its cash and will just buy streams of mercs, and the whole dynamic of a civil war is lost as you control the only Roman family on the field
Nothing after Medieval 2 is all that great tbh. Warhammer is alright actually, but Jon already played that and didn't seem too keen on it. But he should totally do the Rome 1 expansions and Medieval 2 and mods for both.
@@d.k.t.3380Thats why I dont bother doing what john does. If the a.i. wants a certain side to win they just have the other side fight like crap. And I dont have time in my life to watch that happen.
I'd love to see Total War become a staple of the channel, similar to Fallout. It's great seeing someone with such an in-depth knowledge of the game at work.
To his defense, he kept his honor and didn't succumb to the Roman gold! Well it actually make sense since his whole country was conquered by the Romans and his family members murdered. A tragic but honored death to this last Pontiac leader.
You've never failed to deliver an interesting episode on this thus far, which I commend you for. Most people I see doing series on the Total Was Franchise lose enthusiasm the longer the series goes on. But oh Jon my boy, you never fail to amaze me.
Just like Gandalf, this poor bastard didn't succumb to the darkness and kept his honor. He died a hero's death from a million arrows refusing to bend the knee.
"C'mon catch fire ya bastards" Love it when you speak about your Roman brethren in battle Jon. The softly spoken underhanded slights towards them is hilarious.
I will forever remember staying up to watch this series when i binge watch these at the end of youtube. (and waiting AGES for the marian reforms) *nudge, nudge*
Don't know if you have batch-recorded these Jon, but remember - it doesn't matter who besieges a city first, it is the one who starts the combat who gets control of the city. With that in mind, if the Scipio armies attack Carthage and build up a lot, you can just attack, build one ram, then attack and leave the brunt of the fighting to the Scips who, if they win, will be gracious enough to let you hve the city simply because you started the fight
Indeed pal. It would have made more sense to put those hoplites as front line and the principes to the flanks. The Thracians would be annihilated running on the phalanx spears. This is my favorite thing while playing as the Greeks. Everything melts in front of a good phalanx.
One thing I've learned playing VH. Whatever the AI wants to happen, typically happens. That why archers charge in with knives instead of doing anything that makes sense. The AI wanted scipii to win that fight, so they trigger the idiot sub routine for Numidia. This also explains how a faction you've been beating the crap out of, that has two settlements, can somehow still show up at your door with two full stacks of prime units, every 4 turns. I started playing in just hard. VH is more annoying than fun.
"Onagers are the best." Jon 2017.Onagers are another name for an donkey, otherwise known as an ass. I think we learned something about Jon today. I always kinda knew Jon was an ass-man.
@Duxio Aven How about drawing the shape of a Roman sircus instead? Bread and circus goes along very well, and then you can have have donkeys performing and asses in the seats. But I am aware there is a risk with baked good puns, whether buns or bread, of getting panned.
That bridge battle was hilarious. Also, i think that the richest faction is calculated by who has the most denarii at the end of the turn. Since you brought Antioch, the Julii passed you and became the richest faction.
One of the ways TotalWar breaks immersion for me is how one little row boat can transport a full stack army of thousands. Instead it should be like for every hitpoint left on a boat can carry one military unit. Or something like that. Then give the player to ability to buy "transports" vs "warships".
How is it that the AI always seems to fight more incompetently whenever they fight the other Roman allies. It feels like the AI Romans don't just get to cheat on dice rolls, they also get to play on an easier difficulty setting.
"Say, how do you feel about taking over Carthage out from under the gaze of your fellow romans?' By Jupiter, this is such a strange alternate universe. The British on the war path, the forces of the East coming back and taking the rest of Africa, Spain forming early and relatively holding off the romans (Spain was supposed to be one of the first major roman colonies outside Italy starting in one of the Punic Wars), etc, etc... Wow.
I've just got this mental image of John's Calvary just sitting in the back making passive aggressive 'cheering' noises whenever the Scipio or the Jullie attack anything and it giving them a morale debuff
Hey I was wondering would You consider to make a battle with a real formation of a Roman Army with Triarii, Principes, Hastati, and Velites. With the actual history acuredaccurate formation on march and forming the battle line. Maybe not with the Egyptians but with some easier enemy.
"Oh that's harsh, don't call him Spurious the Ugly when he's only just become a man." less than one minute later: "We shall just call him the bridge troll."
all you need for bridge battles in rome is two phalanx units. place them so their spears reach ontoo the bridge on both sides, making them run into the spears at an angle and it becomes a meatgrind.
the first one is easy to do, but kind of dull. While it does have the disadvantage of not having heavy cavalry in every fight, it does mean that the armies are practically immune to assassinations. Destroying all cities is an impossability. He could exterminate them all, but all that would really do is just make the game a lot longer while he waits for the populations to get back up to a point where he can recruit and grow again. As for mercenaries, well... there just aren't enough available across the whole map to make it viable, and he'd have to keep going back to buy new ones in order to replace casualties
You are right, I just hope there is some way to make the game a funny challenge. I`ve seen let´s plays of the ancient Xcom with only one! base at Hawaii. Its a lot of fun for me to see the players struggle.
Man, spain was a hard place to conquer in my Julii campaing, i was in Dacia alredy when i started to go againts the Spanish, boy, i got 1 city and had to hold it againts massive hordes of spanish man, the commander died 1 turn before the relief force got there and then i just conquered spain, they had used all of their armies in that one city that would just never surrender, i think i alredy told this story here in the comments before
my favorite pass time in this game was to set up custom bridge battles, play as the greeks get one or two units of spartans with gold everything, then get a ton of Cretan archers, maybe some siege equipment. play against egypt or armenia or something and give them just basic tier units and watch the slaughter.
Holy Hades, Jon. That bit with the rebel general was a bit mean. The lone survivor of his family (That you assassinated, for the most part), refusing to betray his principles, and you execute him from afar with volleys of arrows and blistering invective? I have a feeling Jon's going even more evil. At least give the man a good death. I am going to be so sad when Aulus Victor dies, we shall not see his like again until Chickpea takes the leadership. I imagine him as basically Tywin Lannister. This is excellent, and I can stay up to enjoy it now exams are over.
im I right in remembering that if you have your indirect fire on the enemies right flank they actually kill more as the chance of hitting a shield is reduced even more.
“That would be overkill for Carthage though.“ Jon. We're Romans. Nothing is overkill for Carthage. delendam esse Carthaginem! Senatus populusque Romanus!
"and the camp women will be suitably appreciative... too." The best speech I have ever heard. XD
Hell I would die for that guy.
Spoken like a true leading roman.
He could lead me into battle any day
Nikki Budders How could they call him a bad speaker?!
I mean, that really wasn't a bad speech. It wasn't very patriotic, yeah, but I'd say any self respecting soldier would be encouraged by that one.
After all, there's enough wine to float a boat back in camp!
>Puts principes in front lines with hastati enforcing them
That is not how you Roman Republic John.
No, that´s what the hoplites are for.
Magnus Kjærgaard it seems its come to the Triarii
I know, but historical accuracy doesn't win you no empire in 200 turns :P
It should be noted that Jon (not John), isn't concerned with the Roman Republic. The senate dislike him, he's disobeyed them countless times, and is preparing his troops to march on the streets of Rome itself.
Imperator Jon saw that putting his best, harder to break units towards the front would hold the bridge.
Now, if you chose to speak against the greatness of Rome, you shall be fed to dogs for the pleasure of Jonus Brutus, on the eve of the siege of Carthage.
@@alectrem So Jon is basically just Julius Caesar. Senate don't like him but too scared to actually do anything to him.
Cornelius Brutus is homely, and yet young Roman girls whisper his name and sigh. He must be quite the hero indeed.
sigh cuz they can't get him i assume
plot twist: jon gets completely steamrolled by the british
"They threw heads at us! What were we supposed to do?!"
Plot twist 2: Cassius the Lewd is working for the British.
So that is why they were giving them head!
Corpses floating down the river, "Isn't that lovely?"
I have become addicted to this series. You do a really good job at playing/commenting without doing it too much. Hope this Total War series becomes a staple of your channel. There is Medieval 2, Rome 2 and others for you to play so people wont get tired of it. I certainly wont! Keep up the great work, Jon!
marciosmg I'm with you, man. I especially like his snooker-like play-by-play for the AI-battles... priceless!
marciosmg just i dont know about rome 2 because i always liked the older total war games because of the general traits and things but i feel like now its pretty much ALL just about the battles which is fine but i dont like it as much
Rome 2 will be nowhere near as good, because you are severely limited in how many armies you can have, the computer cheats with its cash and will just buy streams of mercs, and the whole dynamic of a civil war is lost as you control the only Roman family on the field
Nothing after Medieval 2 is all that great tbh. Warhammer is alright actually, but Jon already played that and didn't seem too keen on it. But he should totally do the Rome 1 expansions and Medieval 2 and mods for both.
Yes. Id love to see a Medieval 2 campaign with the Byzantines using the Stainless Steel mod. Makes things considerably more exciting/harder..
All hail Spurius the Bridge-Troll
25 episodes in and I can't get enough. Your commentary is gold! "We've found someone to guard the bridge! We will call him the bridge troll!" 😂
the bridge battle was a good idea, though it could use a bit more bridge ballast.
MOAR BRIDGE BALLAST!!!
he should take Pannonia and Iuvavum for a better frontier because Pannonia has bridges close to the settlements.
*DING*
Augh.. that was asbolutely PAINFUL to watch. The Numidians may as well have thrown themselves on Roman swords.
Technically, they did.
But don't forget: if you make the computer play out the battles, the computer can't cheat... smh
@@d.k.t.3380Thats why I dont bother doing what john does. If the a.i. wants a certain side to win they just have the other side fight like crap. And I dont have time in my life to watch that happen.
I'd love to see Total War become a staple of the channel, similar to Fallout. It's great seeing someone with such an in-depth knowledge of the game at work.
He has pretty much confirmed the franchise, along with other strategy games like Civilization and Stellaris will be as well.
16:53 I am Disapointed It's not Byzantium.
It's Jonstantinople.
50:05 No, Jon doesn't seem salty about not being able to bribe him
My new favourite thing: Jon pelting a Barbarian warlord with arrows, shouting 'how is this for a bribe!' and 'I didn't have enough cash, did I?'
To his defense, he kept his honor and didn't succumb to the Roman gold! Well it actually make sense since his whole country was conquered by the Romans and his family members murdered. A tragic but honored death to this last Pontiac leader.
Watching this for the “nth” time 6 years later, and I still laugh at Spurius the Ugly becoming a bridge troll every time 😂
You've never failed to deliver an interesting episode on this thus far, which I commend you for. Most people I see doing series on the Total Was Franchise lose enthusiasm the longer the series goes on. But oh Jon my boy, you never fail to amaze me.
Why do people from the Mediterranean make such good explorers? Because they love Roman around.
@50 min mark:
Saruman Jon:
"I gave you the chance to join willingly, but you have elected... THE WAY OF PAIN."
puppysect
Saruman Jon = SaruJon
Just like Gandalf, this poor bastard didn't succumb to the darkness and kept his honor. He died a hero's death from a million arrows refusing to bend the knee.
"C'mon catch fire ya bastards"
Love it when you speak about your Roman brethren in battle Jon. The softly spoken underhanded slights towards them is hilarious.
I will forever remember staying up to watch this series when i binge watch these at the end of youtube. (and waiting AGES for the marian reforms) *nudge, nudge*
Don't know if you have batch-recorded these Jon, but remember - it doesn't matter who besieges a city first, it is the one who starts the combat who gets control of the city. With that in mind, if the Scipio armies attack Carthage and build up a lot, you can just attack, build one ram, then attack and leave the brunt of the fighting to the Scips who, if they win, will be gracious enough to let you hve the city simply because you started the fight
but he has to start the fight with infantry. cavalry cannot build or use siege.
But the force Jon has going to Carthage has infantry in it. If he is quick, then it might just work
another sleepless night another total war video.
Watching that bridge battle was painful. The hoplites, standing in a phalanx, just staring at the enemy who is a couple feet too far to reach.
Indeed pal. It would have made more sense to put those hoplites as front line and the principes to the flanks. The Thracians would be annihilated running on the phalanx spears. This is my favorite thing while playing as the Greeks. Everything melts in front of a good phalanx.
One thing I've learned playing VH. Whatever the AI wants to happen, typically happens. That why archers charge in with knives instead of doing anything that makes sense. The AI wanted scipii to win that fight, so they trigger the idiot sub routine for Numidia.
This also explains how a faction you've been beating the crap out of, that has two settlements, can somehow still show up at your door with two full stacks of prime units, every 4 turns.
I started playing in just hard. VH is more annoying than fun.
I guess you could call it
From the GAULS of victory
I'll see my self out...
You must have a big pair of Gauls to make that joke.
Looks like he grabbed them by the gauls.
He hasn't taken Damascus yet? Syria-sly?
PsychicRadroach ha
"Onagers are the best." Jon 2017.Onagers are another name for an donkey, otherwise known as an ass. I think we learned something about Jon today. I always kinda knew Jon was an ass-man.
Duxio Aven he was , also a bread man (if you don't get the reference it was a livestream Jon was in)
Duxio Aven
also a carton of eggs man!
I'm trying to think of a clever pun having to do with bread and ass. I drawing a blank.
@Duxio Aven How about drawing the shape of a Roman sircus instead? Bread and circus goes along very well, and then you can have have donkeys performing and asses in the seats.
But I am aware there is a risk with baked good puns, whether buns or bread, of getting panned.
He always slams into the rear
Where is this level of incompetence when I'm playing against the AI?
Fack it, I wasn't going to get any sleep tonight anyway.
Damn, where do you live? it's 5pm out here in Massachusetts.
same hear
+The Sleepy Viking This was uploaded at approx. 2200 hours UK time, which is where MATN is, PS i like your name :)
The Sleepy Viking Currently 10PM in the U.K.
just released, 23;09 in Czech Republic.
That bridge battle was hilarious.
Also, i think that the richest faction is calculated by who has the most denarii at the end of the turn. Since you brought Antioch, the Julii passed you and became the richest faction.
Egyptians camping on your Antioch lawn? Charge them rent.
I'm really enjoying this series. Thanks Jon.
Cavalry? I guess with the Numidians you could call it camelry..... bu dum tsh....I'll see myself out
ChickenbearPigeon That's not even a pun. Camelry is already a word. Used for that specific purpose.
anonyman13 curses my terrible puns foiled by logic!
Floating corpses are lovely apparently...
I absolutely adore this series. Commentary is tops as always.
Did Jon say "Javalrymen"? I like it.
Yesss! Honestly RTW has become the highlight of my week! Thank you Jon for this amazing series
Why was our lord Chickpea not Pontifex Maximus?
Because the senate wanted the world's angriest man to be in charge of religious dogma, and vestal virgins.
No, Bridgetroll for Pontifex 300BC!
3:44 "I've been looking forward to this" - Count Dooku
I never cease to be amazed at what the AI does.
Thanks for the video!
the walls of jerico part had me laughing.
I haven't seen sleep since you started uploading these
Dat username tho.
That final battle was a real nailbiter.
Drink every time he says 'Archer'
It's a pity you're not sending Spurius the Ugly to Asia. Then he could be the Monster of the East!
Jon says "bridge battle" and all I hear is "bridge ballast"... I might be tainted :p
These titles are so poetic, I love it
Absolutely loving this series, every new episode makes my day.
Jon - “Would the archers like to arch at some point?!”
Me - LMAO
Just spent about a week binge watching this from episode 1, now to wait for more episodes.
Jon should host his own time commanders
I kind if want to see British attack Rome with war elephants just to remind Jon of Ryse: Son of Rome.
Now i'm hooked on this game and this series, I learn from the series and then try to apply it to the game. Thanks Jon:)
Fruitfull Spurius the Ugly, oh my word! His poor children. After catching sight of their father, they will flee back to their mother's womb.
"I don't have enough gold to buy the loyalty of these men, but how about arrows? We got plenty of arrows my good men." 🗿🗿🗿
39:23 Roman Banner Man seriously looks like he is wearing a ghillie suite. I was seriously confused for a few seconds, lol.
That speech in the first battle. LOL My sides
Aw yea! ANOTHER OF THE TRI-WEEKLY ROME TOTAL WAR EPISODES! YEEEEE! 52 min is major decrease but its K
One of the ways TotalWar breaks immersion for me is how one little row boat can transport a full stack army of thousands. Instead it should be like for every hitpoint left on a boat can carry one military unit. Or something like that. Then give the player to ability to buy "transports" vs "warships".
Well the sea was not properly developed in this game. One of the few disadvantages it has.
"ARROWS!!! IS THIS ENOUGH ARROWS FOR YOU?!?!" 😂
I love to when Numidia is getting a hold on Carthage, on my campaing they invade sicilly which is freaking awesome. They are my favorite faction.
This is my drug.
I was sure it was going to be a defeat for Jon from the title, but I was foolish to think such a thing.
When you've been reading principes in your textbook as prince-ehps for months
Gods damn I love this series X3
The Scipiones heard Jon talking shit and they were like "Alright guys we gotta really get our act together for this one"
More of the Total War series would be amazing Jon!
How is it that the AI always seems to fight more incompetently whenever they fight the other Roman allies. It feels like the AI Romans don't just get to cheat on dice rolls, they also get to play on an easier difficulty setting.
I should be getting my sleep on for tomorrows theatre engagements, but the republic demands my attention... Wine and Rome it is!
"Say, how do you feel about taking over Carthage out from under the gaze of your fellow romans?'
By Jupiter, this is such a strange alternate universe. The British on the war path, the forces of the East coming back and taking the rest of Africa, Spain forming early and relatively holding off the romans (Spain was supposed to be one of the first major roman colonies outside Italy starting in one of the Punic Wars), etc, etc...
Wow.
I've just got this mental image of John's Calvary just sitting in the back making passive aggressive 'cheering' noises whenever the Scipio or the Jullie attack anything and it giving them a morale debuff
At the end Jon goes full Roman Escobar on those barbarians with whole arrows or gold situation
I lost it when you called Spurius the Ugly a bridge troll. That was hilarious
took me few seconds to get the walls of jericho reference. Nice touch
Hey I was wondering would You consider to make a battle with a real formation of a Roman Army with Triarii, Principes, Hastati, and Velites. With the actual history acuredaccurate formation on march and forming the battle line. Maybe not with the Egyptians but with some easier enemy.
ive tried it before, the army tends to rout quite a bit, full cavalry armies are key
The sheer incompetence of the Numidia makes me think that is how the the Julii and Scipii win their fights when you don't "help" them
"Oh that's harsh, don't call him Spurious the Ugly when he's only just become a man."
less than one minute later: "We shall just call him the bridge troll."
Dozens of dead bodies, bobbing in the river...
Like 2/3rds of your Ilirian Mercs were injured by friendly fire from your onagers.
4:45 Best speech
This title is like luigi cadorna. From the jaws of victory, he snatched defeat
As much as I love this series, I wish he'd play mods, like Europa Barbarorum.
Do we have enough ARROWS!?!
He really does sound like a megalomaniac there.
Jon of salt "Is that enough arrows for you?"
all you need for bridge battles in rome is two phalanx units. place them so their spears reach ontoo the bridge on both sides, making them run into the spears at an angle and it becomes a meatgrind.
The Circle trailer was awesome but time for the show.
All hail Rome.
Ever feel like your watching these battle are helping the Romans win, Jon?
I don't know if I do or don't want this series finale to be like that of Total War: Warhammer.
Please do a challenge run of Rome Total War
like no Leaders in Fight,
or destroy every conquered city,
or just mercenaries,
the first one is easy to do, but kind of dull. While it does have the disadvantage of not having heavy cavalry in every fight, it does mean that the armies are practically immune to assassinations. Destroying all cities is an impossability. He could exterminate them all, but all that would really do is just make the game a lot longer while he waits for the populations to get back up to a point where he can recruit and grow again. As for mercenaries, well... there just aren't enough available across the whole map to make it viable, and he'd have to keep going back to buy new ones in order to replace casualties
You are right, I just hope there is some way to make the game a funny challenge. I`ve seen let´s plays of the ancient Xcom with only one! base at Hawaii. Its a lot of fun for me to see the players struggle.
I suppose there's always Rome: The Long (range) War! Using nothing but ranged units. Siege battles would be quite tough
he can always do "Total Fucking Idiot Campaign" like legendoftotalwar is doing- beat the campaign with 0 victories, every battle must be lost
Here's a challenge idea, late as I may be: all-dog military. Maybe also flaming pigs.
Man I have exam tomorrow but... Fuck it ROME IS HERE!
Man, spain was a hard place to conquer in my Julii campaing, i was in Dacia alredy when i started to go againts the Spanish, boy, i got 1 city and had to hold it againts massive hordes of spanish man, the commander died 1 turn before the relief force got there and then i just conquered spain, they had used all of their armies in that one city that would just never surrender, i think i alredy told this story here in the comments before
my favorite pass time in this game was to set up custom bridge battles, play as the greeks get one or two units of spartans with gold everything, then get a ton of Cretan archers, maybe some siege equipment. play against egypt or armenia or something and give them just basic tier units and watch the slaughter.
Brutii territory kinda reminds me of the Byzantine Empire. Territorial anyway.
Mass Effect 3 and the Reapers can wait!! Imperial Rome comes first!!!
Koby Wilson good choice
next episode: the Egyptian Question and Spanish roadblocks. Stay tuned!
This video was sooooo tense
Was waiting for this!!
Hmm... a cunning plan, you say? As cunning as a fox, who's just been appointed Professor of cunning at Oxford University?
Holy Hades, Jon. That bit with the rebel general was a bit mean. The lone survivor of his family (That you assassinated, for the most part), refusing to betray his principles, and you execute him from afar with volleys of arrows and blistering invective? I have a feeling Jon's going even more evil. At least give the man a good death.
I am going to be so sad when Aulus Victor dies, we shall not see his like again until Chickpea takes the leadership. I imagine him as basically Tywin Lannister.
This is excellent, and I can stay up to enjoy it now exams are over.
im I right in remembering that if you have your indirect fire on the enemies right flank they actually kill more as the chance of hitting a shield is reduced even more.
Do you have any plans to play Total War: Medieval 2?
He's said he would like to eventually, it's his 2nd favorite total war game
“That would be overkill for Carthage though.“
Jon. We're Romans. Nothing is overkill for Carthage.
delendam esse Carthaginem! Senatus populusque Romanus!