'Icarus': How an amateur cyclist fell into secret world of Russian doping | ABC News

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  • Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
  • Filmmaker Bryan Fogel started out making a documentary about taking performance-enhancing drugs but then everything changed.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 230

  • @bernardjason2974
    @bernardjason2974 4 роки тому +133

    Everyone is on steroids
    - Nate Diaz

  • @noobslayer135
    @noobslayer135 6 років тому +322

    I have 0 interest in sports or anything like that, but Icarus is amazing

    • @litehousekid1
      @litehousekid1 4 роки тому +1

      Roof2 i disagree. kill me for it

    • @reallifehack4790
      @reallifehack4790 2 роки тому +4

      @@Roof2 lol.. Kremlin troll angry cause they're exposed

  • @myme8208
    @myme8208 4 роки тому +53

    The Russian scientist was such a character, he drew me because of his life story. It's so crazy that he went through all that.

  • @johnnieblack660
    @johnnieblack660 6 років тому +122

    Ivan Drago was on steroids and killed Apollo Creed.

    • @gbjwal1
      @gbjwal1 6 років тому +4

      Black Lavender in the real world, Sly was caught with HGH in Australia
      Marion Jones...,Gatlin, Lewis, Christie, Johnson, Armstrong. The west holier than them lol. They are all at it. Research BALCO in the US.

    • @joserubero7002
      @joserubero7002 4 роки тому +1

      John Williams that’s some good stuff man. You should try it,will keep you young forever 💪

    • @sebastian7112
      @sebastian7112 4 роки тому

      Never forget

    • @kazj1728
      @kazj1728 3 роки тому

      It was supposed to be an exhibition match!

    • @ThankGodImBlack370
      @ThankGodImBlack370 28 днів тому

      ​@@gbjwal1Marion Jones was natural until her competitors started using.

  • @Diggs4ever
    @Diggs4ever 5 років тому +87

    I felt bad for Rochanchov. Call me crazy but I just feel bad for him

  • @AK-qg7mp
    @AK-qg7mp 7 років тому +151

    Doping in sports? Welcome to the real world.

    • @TheGolfdaily
      @TheGolfdaily 7 років тому +56

      King Of Kings
      Doping at an individual level is one thing. Doping at a level of a Nation is an entire different story!

    • @robhansen6745
      @robhansen6745 6 років тому +8

      yes many bad sports people cheat with doping BUT THE DIF, HER IS THAT THIS IS STATE RUN !!!! and not even North Korea or even China does a state run state financed DOPING PROGRAM !!!

    • @SupercovenGW2
      @SupercovenGW2 5 років тому +1

      you dont get it. peasant. now stfu

    • @ranelgallardo7031
      @ranelgallardo7031 4 роки тому

      rob hansen Well we don’t know that

    • @1whoowns
      @1whoowns 4 роки тому +7

      @@robhansen6745 Ironic that you don't think every country does the same thing. Think about it logically:
      Russia wins less medals than the US on total, and Russia has a state sponsored doping program.
      US athletes aren't all more "genetically superior" to Russian athletes, they just get away with doping on a higher scale than even the Russians. The only reason this came to light is because Russia got caught.

  • @soheibbennacer1200
    @soheibbennacer1200 4 роки тому +15

    so let me wrap my mind around this , there is american athletes who did beat russian athletes on peds and still american athletes are considered clean ? humm alrighty then.

    • @Lerch-zc3ww
      @Lerch-zc3ww 3 роки тому +5

      It's not that the US doesn't dope, but there is little official involvement, and we have a fairly robust anti doping apparatus, USADA took down Armstrong for example. In Russia, it's 'what's that?'.

    • @thobraa
      @thobraa 6 місяців тому

      @@Lerch-zc3wwUSADA took down Lance 😆good one!

  • @radrcer
    @radrcer 4 роки тому +15

    I once entered a 100 mile mtn race at 5000ft elev. i quickly realized why people dope

  • @joneskey3950
    @joneskey3950 5 років тому +14

    Jon Jones was Rochenkos's number 1 customer

  • @avalanche9142
    @avalanche9142 2 роки тому +9

    It's not only Russia, Russia was the one caught

  • @chrisn8009
    @chrisn8009 6 років тому +12

    The scientist looks like Will Ferrell can play him in the movie

  • @eriikaa33
    @eriikaa33 2 роки тому +2

    Anyone here after this happens YET again.. 2022 winter olympians deserve better!

  • @arx3516
    @arx3516 5 років тому +14

    Doping is present in cyclism even at amateur levels. A man in Italy was arrested for giving dope to his 12 years old son competing in amateur cycling.

    • @EvaLasta
      @EvaLasta 2 роки тому

      Its not called dope lol... that would be heroin. You mean hormones?

  • @Zumpster
    @Zumpster 3 роки тому +9

    The movie is astonishing.

  • @ranelgallardo7031
    @ranelgallardo7031 4 роки тому +17

    Houston Astros: “At least we’re not Russia”

  • @albertoaguilar9773
    @albertoaguilar9773 6 років тому +13

    Now usa will use rodchenkov for their own doping purposes

  • @dauntbookworm6642
    @dauntbookworm6642 3 роки тому +3

    They're all doping, every last one of them.
    It's really easy
    - The Head of the Anti-Doping Agency

  • @markhancock7527
    @markhancock7527 5 років тому +7

    Great film i could not believe how much the russian have gotten away with.

  • @phil3kyuubi78
    @phil3kyuubi78 6 років тому +2

    Track & Field AND Weightlifting were blocked

  • @howdareu964
    @howdareu964 4 роки тому +6

    Why did Grigory really do the movie/documentary ???

  • @stealthswim223
    @stealthswim223 5 років тому +26

    It was an amazing documentary

  • @yoshimitsu8643
    @yoshimitsu8643 Рік тому

    American spying on their civilians: exists
    Russia farts: that’s the story to focus on

  • @emiliobello2538
    @emiliobello2538 2 роки тому +1

    Anyone here after the Oscars?

  • @sinistargaming
    @sinistargaming 2 роки тому

    Bryan Fogel looks like Edward Norton

  • @rapator9270
    @rapator9270 6 років тому +5

    Decades are Russian women skiers looked like men, i dont suprise!

  • @georgejgilles.3999
    @georgejgilles.3999 5 років тому +3

    99% are found guilty of ................wow.

  • @stardustblue
    @stardustblue 7 років тому +1

    Wonder if victor nikiforov doped up :/

  • @veganraj0019
    @veganraj0019 6 років тому +2

    its all about power politics!! sports is just a small avenue

  • @topekepa5997
    @topekepa5997 5 років тому

    Rockhold brother

  • @miatarescue
    @miatarescue 7 років тому +27

    in Russia doping does you

  • @mikeeklund9780
    @mikeeklund9780 4 роки тому +15

    They can easily pass by taking a testosterone suspension water base with no ester. Or fast acting esters like an acetate or base. Would be a lot easier to smuggle in your testosterone suspension and take it right after drug test because it has no ester it will be out your system by the end of the day.

  • @marcustaylor670
    @marcustaylor670 6 років тому +6

    They need to start doing nanobot tests which can be used to enhance protein synthesis and build muscle.

  • @LesPaul2006
    @LesPaul2006 5 років тому +5

    Russia is and always has been pathetic. Such a little, cuddly and fragile sense of patriotism.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 3 роки тому

      When was the last time you went?

    • @LesPaul2006
      @LesPaul2006 3 роки тому

      @@Thor-Orion I've got friends who spent years there. They confirm everything I say.

    • @reallifehack4790
      @reallifehack4790 2 роки тому

      it's fake forced patriotism..communist mentality has never left there

    • @MichaelKing-tp6le
      @MichaelKing-tp6le Рік тому

      @@Thor-Orion who the hell will want to go

  • @brendonsnyman3180
    @brendonsnyman3180 3 роки тому +2

    Russia just a drop in the bucket, everybody uses

  • @franceskobeqiri2217
    @franceskobeqiri2217 3 роки тому +6

    Are we going to act as if the US athletes are clean? hahaha

    • @conenubi701
      @conenubi701 2 роки тому +1

      The US has never had a state sponsored program for amateur athletics.

    • @MichaelKing-tp6le
      @MichaelKing-tp6le Рік тому

      They get tested all the time unlike russia and they are athletically the best

  • @alexanderthreedee4866
    @alexanderthreedee4866 2 роки тому +1

    Yes, everything is much simpler, remember in 2014 this Russian doping scandal? Well, this allowed the internal viewer to present it as another insult from the West, which increased the effect of the capture of the Crimea. And this time it will be the same, almost certainly. So this is just another tactical move of putin.

  • @bigmoneysteppa
    @bigmoneysteppa 7 років тому +19

    I have seen these guys injecting there own bikes just to get an upper hand on there rivals. it has become a ridiculous sport and an embarrassment.

  • @bruseli258
    @bruseli258 7 років тому +21

    The human body has limits. So 99% athletes in 99.9% countrys take dope. Sport=Money.

  • @ninaomar1
    @ninaomar1 7 років тому

    Who's next?

  • @Teacher2Polis2XtraRice
    @Teacher2Polis2XtraRice 2 роки тому +3

    I'm glad that they were caught.

  • @domestique3954
    @domestique3954 5 років тому +1

    What does this story tell us when the 34. and 35. place is to blood dopers?
    Austrian sports chief says „they are just idiots,and these were just single cases as Austria would be too small to create organized
    doping structures and of course the germans are the bad boys to create this scandal just at the world championships in austria to cause harm „--aha!
    It tells ME that the first til 33. place must be highly suspicious either!I‘m in cycling and knew what gerolsteiner as a team had to go through as the chief Hans did not know what his team doctor did behind closed doors when he was interviewed every stage evening
    and telling what he believed were clean riders,so he promoted anti doping while the guys he paid good stebbed in his back.
    They lie til the end and have ruined our beloved sport.Get those guys out of the bunch,organized doping will end your career plus
    payback of income,price money,sponsorships etc
    it is a system failure: too much pressure for results and too many playin dirty tricks,believe me,we are not talking about winning-
    we are talking about a clean rider getting dropped at the first highway bridge!
    As soon as it goes uphill more red blood cells will give you significant advantage by 5-8%!
    So I hope many will get busted so the clean athletes will probably earn few more 💵 dollars

  • @vukans595
    @vukans595 2 роки тому +2

    Whoever think that America doesn't do the same is incredibly naive (best scenario)!

  • @teehee8101
    @teehee8101 2 роки тому

    all 3 figure skaters are dopers!

  • @khach1acc528
    @khach1acc528 Рік тому

    State sponsored sports - there s no Putin would not do!

  • @simonetaddia459
    @simonetaddia459 6 років тому +16

    Not only Russia, by the way. Look at the Tour de France: cyclers go 70 km/h on flat and 50 km/h on a mountain. Professionally, all athletes are doped.

    • @binshuo
      @binshuo 5 років тому +4

      Professional marathon athletes finish around 2 hour. That's why they are professional. what's your point.

    • @aroundtheworld2316
      @aroundtheworld2316 3 роки тому +1

      State organized doping we are talking about

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 3 роки тому +4

      @@aroundtheworld2316 I think the term “state sponsored” is one of the problems here. Is it top down like in Russia? Most definitely not, but there are certainly “programs” in other countries that help their athletes beat the tests.

    • @raven3946
      @raven3946 Рік тому

      People I know can do this, it’s more about endurance and training + recovery of the body.

    • @decathlete2000
      @decathlete2000 9 місяців тому

      yup

  • @bongofury5924
    @bongofury5924 4 роки тому +2

    I guess Lance gets his titles back, eh?

  • @ar_aktual9529
    @ar_aktual9529 4 роки тому +8

    If you don't dope you won't cope...period! ALL professional athletes dope. It's just that simple. You don't think the officials and sponsors knew what Lance was doing? Please, they knew exactly what was going on and they made billions on his rise and even more on his fall.

  • @p.l.diablo9864
    @p.l.diablo9864 2 місяці тому

    Level playing field.

  • @sarahlockwood8226
    @sarahlockwood8226 6 років тому +15

    I would just keep my mouth shut especially when it involves Russia

  • @ThankGodImBlack370
    @ThankGodImBlack370 28 днів тому

    Here to scoff at your excuses for using ....

  • @alecwolf1443
    @alecwolf1443 4 роки тому +3

    If it's no Doping allowed ? Why WADA says "ilegal substance" ? ANY substance which helps to get a better results in sport is DOPING. Therefore is a list of LEGAL dope and ILEGAL dope but a the end ALL athletes DOPE at the international level. If you just practice and eat regular food....you would be just a regular person. But if you use WADA proved DOPE....you are great and get your medal and the Olympics or any international competitions.

    • @EvaLasta
      @EvaLasta 2 роки тому

      Its ridiculous man. Every athlete should use hormones to become the best super human athlete that they can be. We want that, not weak athletes.

    • @chancebockenstest5170
      @chancebockenstest5170 2 роки тому

      @@EvaLasta I think we have to draw the line somewhere. That way the level of doping is controlled in some way

  • @vishaldubey5699
    @vishaldubey5699 9 місяців тому

    Rochanchov had 2 agents in his apartment there to kill him still he manages to fly to th U.S.

  • @DenisTriton
    @DenisTriton 6 років тому +7

    Really?!
    And why Rodchenkov doesn't oppose Russian hockey players? They are also part of the Russian national team, right?
    Because they play in the NHL. When becomes clear that Rodchenkov lies, than all his bullsh... will be discovered. Also he will receive multimillion claims from athletes.

  • @JanoyCresva
    @JanoyCresva 2 роки тому

    WHy was he in fear for his life? WOuldnt Putin PROTECT him? Whod go after him?

  • @The13ab
    @The13ab Рік тому

    Fizev

  • @MrShreerampk
    @MrShreerampk 3 роки тому +3

    I understand they have cheated but USA also guilty of using roids

    • @conenubi701
      @conenubi701 2 роки тому +1

      Not state sponsored in amateur athletics. They've used it in military programs but have avoided having a state sponsored athletic doing program. Biggest reason they don't do it? Simple, money. If they were to ever have one and end up caught, they have far more money to lose than Russia.

  • @VixCrush
    @VixCrush 6 років тому +5

    This guy the American guy is so slow.. He is like calling this guy in Russia whose phone is probably tapped and asking him all these dumb questions. He really makes a good case for the ignorant American in this film. C'mon all Americans are not that slow.

  • @He-is-Center
    @He-is-Center 7 років тому +1

    *chaos is a ladder

  • @bongofury5924
    @bongofury5924 4 роки тому +10

    If Lance changes his name to Linda and identifies as a woman, he should be allowed to win 7 of the void titles....

    • @Qwerty-fy6fx
      @Qwerty-fy6fx 3 роки тому +3

      If Lance changes his name to Linda she’ll work in HR

  • @sygulli5093
    @sygulli5093 2 роки тому

    Oh those Russians 🇷🇺

  • @alexvimo8739
    @alexvimo8739 8 місяців тому +1

    😊

  • @user-it9vs3vq2z
    @user-it9vs3vq2z Місяць тому

    He was looking for a deal. They have a lot of old rusty communist needles in old russia and ukraine. The american doctors that do that are too expensive. Only Barry Bonds can afford that. Them rusty communist needles are still good. You just need to soak it vinegar over night. Sammy Sosa used that stuff and baseball was: barri barri good to him!

  • @yummy2043
    @yummy2043 7 років тому +3

    Not like other countries dope lol

    • @ranelgallardo7031
      @ranelgallardo7031 4 роки тому

      Soap Russia doped from the top. Meaning the big bosses of the Russian Olympic Committee gave the athletes an incentive to dope. The other countries the individual athletes just dope.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 3 роки тому

      @@ranelgallardo7031 I don’t think it’s quite as clear cut as your thinking. There are DEFINITELY programs in other countries, they just exist outside of the government itself, so it’s not quite as wide spread and is more insulated and cellular.

    • @reallifehack4790
      @reallifehack4790 2 роки тому

      @@Thor-Orion state sponsored doping is different from individual doping..when a government is involved, it's a whole new level..

  • @Underhills
    @Underhills 4 роки тому +3

    Nothing new here. Please move on.

  • @The13ab
    @The13ab Рік тому

    Yan

  • @p.l.diablo9864
    @p.l.diablo9864 2 місяці тому

    So, just Russia huh, cool story enemedia.

  • @user-bf2rb6jr2j
    @user-bf2rb6jr2j 5 років тому +3

    amateur 'cia' cyclist

  • @The13ab
    @The13ab Рік тому

    Khabib

  • @teehee8101
    @teehee8101 2 роки тому

    Trump and Russia needs to go! where's the snipers when you need them?

  • @anatoliypetrov626
    @anatoliypetrov626 6 років тому

    Теперь он отказался от своих слов. Оказывается, все, что он говорил ложь. Конечно, это и так было понятно, но теперь это точно. И где новости об этом на западе? Нахер вас всех)

  • @Furballcapital
    @Furballcapital Рік тому

    This is quite hypocritic from Westerm countries. :D

  • @night_dogg9365
    @night_dogg9365 7 років тому

    Second

  • @mehnukejeff7355
    @mehnukejeff7355 7 років тому +4

    First ??

    • @adam-qu8rd
      @adam-qu8rd 7 років тому +1

      Bloody diarrhea and carlita And albertsstuff ehy

    • @TENINCHLUVABOY
      @TENINCHLUVABOY 7 років тому +3

      You only beat us and got first place because you're doping.

  • @The13ab
    @The13ab Рік тому

    Islam

  • @briandeluca4318
    @briandeluca4318 4 роки тому

    ABC news....only network covering this🤔🤔

  • @adamstepic8083
    @adamstepic8083 2 роки тому

    Why be mad at the Russians. Steroids should be a part of elite athletics. When I was in the army, a normal saying was if you ain't cheating,you ain't trying. I don't blame Russia, I blame everyone else for being so far behind. Legalize steroids for professional sports. Ban highschool use.

  • @samebar
    @samebar 6 років тому

    You mean kinda like the U.S State sponsored doping or the private sector cross referencing with state sponsored U.S DOPING?

  • @SupercovenGW2
    @SupercovenGW2 5 років тому +2

    havent watched the Olympics since i was a young child 20 years ago. its all a fraud.
    the only sports I watch are my 10 year old children at the park.

  • @madmechanic7976
    @madmechanic7976 4 роки тому +1

    Why is Russia always under investigation?
    Why not Isreal???

    • @howdareu964
      @howdareu964 4 роки тому

      fyi that’s sarcasm u schmuck

    • @reallifehack4790
      @reallifehack4790 2 роки тому

      because Israel has no state sponsored doping

  • @bossbleat
    @bossbleat 7 років тому +6

    Too much shit is given about other countries, while you should try to notice your own mistakes and make the improvement .

  • @kwader_1404
    @kwader_1404 6 років тому +1

    fake fake fake

  • @errorerror3133
    @errorerror3133 7 років тому +4

    Keep mother Russia out of yo mouth lady!