The rattling would drive me up the wall if I'd paid that much. That's exactly the sort of thing that I'd have thought would have been improved over the original. Also wouldn't want it lowered, the imposing height was always a big part of the appeal.
Yup the rattling was very very off putting, on that alone is not worth the money they put into it, devil is in the details, they messed up by giving Harry that Unsorted rattlecan, now everybody knows.
The whole dashboard is a bit of a joke to be honest , squeaking and rattling . It looks horrendous too ,surely they could have something a bit more bespoke for 170k ?
@@Carrera-gp9od I think Matt Farah from the Smoking Tire would call it "inherent shitboxness" and something you can't quite fix in a classic unless you spent serious money. Well....you are, here and yet it persists.
@@Carrera-gp9od a fair point, but it’s the original car redone and that’s how it looked. The rattling and squeaks actually that’s probably how it sounded too!
I had a ‘93 3.9 back in the 90s and loved it. The air suspension was great, when it worked. I’d prefer just a fully sorted one rather than a sportified version like this. Thanks for the vid, brilliant as always.
Ground up restorations, that too with a significant amount of craftsmanship involved and modifications are never cheap when you figure that they also have to recoup the investment in the machinery and other stuff. Case in point: Singer, Guentherwerks, Alfaholics etc.
@@subarnosinha8042 Your examples are at a completely different level. Singers used to be much cheaper, but even those cars had stunning level of attention to detail and technological updates. Not saggy leather, creaking dash, poor shock absorbers and non-functioning buttons. £170k is a mad and greedy price for this.
@@ComeJesusChrist I completely agree! I look at the £170k price tag and wonder where the money has gone. Especially when some electric conversions out there are costing less. It's not everyones cup of tea, but at least you can understand money has been spent on it. I can't believe that leather trim passed quality control.
@@liammccarthy2304 What has an electric conversion got to do with a complete rebuild restoration. Such a car cannot be had for less than £100000 and that excludes the car.
The classic shape is a really great design that still looks good today, the seats seem to be a bit rippled, the bag stowage area leather trim is a bit ropey too, I would be sending it back at £170k
And at 170K I would have hoped they could sort out the noisy dashboard as well! I actually prefer the previous dash to this one, much simpler and elegant looking and no ford cast off windbag steering wheel! I actually preferred the cloth option back then, looked much nicer than the leather I think!
Is used to own a Range Rover Classic and I quite like both the idea of a fully rebuilt Range Rover and this particular spec of green outside with beige leather inside. However, the rattly dash, non-functioning buttons, incorrect tacho, ripply seats, missing rubbing strip, under bonnet insulation and the cubby box lid make me wonder what else they’ve cheaped out on. My money would be elsewhere.
If I were a customer (which I am certainly not) , I would have a heart to heart with Kingsley's quality control director. The leather work in particular is below standard at this price level.
Check out the Irish UA-cam channel "Soup Classic Motoring", and you find his episodes and a summery video of his full restoration of a 1991 RR. It's nut and bolt. Very interesting, and he uses very cool timelapse
£170k for a Range Rover without proper air suspension and crashing and banging from the cabin is simply unacceptable. Lovely bodywork, interior and engine but even still….
I suspect they don't expect them all to be driven like this. I'd rather have the original air setup. Yes it rolls about but that's part of the charm. I quite enjoy mine (not currently as it's waiting for an engine rebuild).
I don't even think the bodywork is that good. Paint yes, that looks lovely and shiny, but the shutlines are as bad as the original and could have been reengineered with new door skins to just tighten them up a few mm to an acceptable standard that even an Austin Allegro beats 😂 Even the interior isn't that great with the same dashboard as an old discovery with plastic stick on wood and wrinkly leather!
I owned a few of these cars and loved them. Why manufacturers (all of them) have subsequently felt the need to make their cars bigger and bigger, particularly wider, is beyond me. This car is plenty big enough for most requirements, it fits into most domestic garages and, as Harry demonstrated, doesn’t even mind a multi storey car park. By the way, if ever there was any doubt, Harry is clearly a very accomplished driver - those bends, phew!
I'd wager they have done FAR more research than you. They need to pack in more equipment, dissipate more heat, account for bigger people, (that have more stuff), and also be safer while carrying all this extra gear. No way they'd make them bigger if they didn't have a reason for it. Maybe those that build car parks should catch up with the world?
@@gottliebdee263 the size of the classic range rover still has a special place in my heart b/c it's the perfect size, greenhouse-like visibility, high driving position, good amount of space for 5 people and their luggage, and still not a pain to park in a typical parking garage. Sure, people like big cars and such big cars should be made, but there's a place in the world for cars this size too (exemplified by the crossover market today). This was a 'large' SUV when it first came out, but nowadays its smaller than a Rav4 or CRV, except in height. I think such a vehicle, but with a more robust engine for better towing, or even an EV version to improve its reliability, would prove incredibly popular today.
With the greatest of respect to them, but for £170k, the retrim on those seats is truly shocking. The retrim on the seats of my old Morris Minor Pickup restoration is far better...... and I've never even given them a second glance! Wow, I think they need to send their trimmer to Specsavers!
"the retrim on those seats is truly shocking." It's looks like the leather on Michael Jackson's face! This is a 20-30k conversion ... tops! £170,000 Kingsley are taking the urine!
LOL, Harry at 20:59 just fanging it around that corner. Only Harry, that's why his channel is just compulsive watching, brilliant. I would love one of these but that suspension would ruin it for me. Give me the old fashioned Range Rover galleon handling. Great job Harry!
To be completely frank, it's a bit rough for a 170k car... the leather is wrinkly, tucked under, switches with no function and a very obvious dash rattle. And the transmission could very well use some work, there is no reason lockup can't be used on lower gears with a more modern TCM that are available today.
@@alexandrecouture2462 It's the extra revs, 4.5k to 7.5k on this one, much too high RPM for this type of car, you would feel like you're racing all the time.
Great review as always, Always loved the RR since my dad’s first one in 77. But £170k and it squeaks and Rattles like that. No thanks I’ll put up with the 10” extra width and an extra £70k in the bank I think.
Have a look at the leather dash in our Tesla powered Range Rover Classic. Far beyond this and what you’d expect at this price point. More details coming soon - instagram.com/inverted_ev/
Was superb in its time, I ran one for 3 years back then. Wind noise, fuel consumption, noisy hyvo transfer box, creaky interior, wiring harness gremlins (water ingress, on an offroader!) and yes the rusting tail gate. Despite all that it was brilliant but for modern driving if the fuel and emissions costs dont get you the crash protection might and at £170K my Rose tinted glasses have just steamed up.
I've owned 3 Range Rover classics, the final one was the soft dash. All 3.9 short stroke engines. Fantastic car and the size was perfect by comparison to the later generations. Off road they are extremely capable vehicles, far superior to l322 l405 models that followed. Thanks for sharing Harry!👍
That's some proper driving! I was actually scared when Harry attacked those corners with such strong steering wheel inputs, but he kept it there and that re-engineered sport suspension obviously deserves credit too. A regular Range Rover would have wallowed away into the bushes, or at least would have looked seriously scary hanging on through the turn. My biggest let down is all those rattles; I wouldn't be able to live with that, especially not at £170.000!
@@GPR111 Harry is obviously an excellent driver! As far as I'm concerned, he's as skilled a professional driver as I've ever seen. Andy McKane, Manunaloa, Hawaii.
The original 3.9 Range Rover wasn't as slow as Harry said at 16.49. The specs he shows on screen are for the diesel model. Great video. I really want one, but I can think of 170,000 reasons why I won't be getting one.
That made me burst out laughing too - "let's see how it goes around this corner" and I swore out loud as I watched him lobbing that thing into the corner on the edge of adhesion! Hilarious, gotta love Harry. :D
Long been my favorite Rangie, I’d be happy to get one for ease of use and style. In Australia they used to rebuild and supercharge the 3.9, if memory serves it was called a Vitesse motor, the less traditional owners used to fit old school Moroso and Donovan Chev motors, wild times in the late eighties and nineties.
£51k to do the restoration on the Jag which has clearly been done properly and £169k on this one which obviously hasn't been. Leather seats wouldn't leave Iain Tyrrell's looking like that and I doubt the dashboard would rattle either. Harry, restoring yours would make excellent video and I'd either give it to either the Jag or Zagato restorers. I reckon they would do at least as good a job for much less £s. That auto 'box is a joke. No way that's reasonable today for that money. Other options must be available. The positive? Fantastic colour!
Exactly you could have a top notch professional restoration and just throw an ls in like they do with jensens and everything else anyway, have more power and a properly functioning transmission for a fraction of the cost.
Surely it’s would’ve been possible to fit an air ride system to the car instead of a system that makes it rattle and creak. Some of the leather seems to of been poorly finished aswell.
Good luck to Kingsley, a timeless classic with a modern twist and the ability to have it built just for you. One of the things I like the most about classic cars is their size. When will manufactures realise that overly large cars are a pain in the arse.
I love Harry's driving style! He drives this Kingsley Range Rover harder than any other Range Rover I've ever seen drive on paved roads. Keep making such wonderful and interesting videos, Harry! P.S. Read many of the comments from viewers when this review was listed at 460k views with 2 years since being placed on UA-cam. If I noticed correctly, the Range Rover Harry is driving has something over 100,000 miles on its odometer. This probably a "Press vehicle," and, as such, has been driven very, very hard by many drivers who have vastly less skill and ability than Harry does. Thank you for such wonderful videos, Harry! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii.
The classic range rover is a fantastic piece of design and I've always loved it since the first time I set eyes on one. However, anyone willing to pay £170k for one clearly has a screw loose.
I remember in Australia in the 1980s and 90s everyone swapped the original motors for 5ltr GM motors which made them more reliable, faster, more economical and cheap to maintain. They were easy to find for 15 000 to 20 000 Australian dollars!
Love the variety of cars you feature Harry, superb! It’s striking how much bigger cars have gotten these days though, parking next to the micra was quite a surprise in comparison!
Harry, the other thing I like about classic 4x4s is, they are not pretending to be a sports car, the suspension is smooth and compliant for long trips, no rubber bands for tyres, some of my work colleagues prefer my classic 4x4 to much more modern 4x4s as it is so comfy, you don't pick up the harsh road surface and you don't notice speed humps as you go over them without slowing down, freaks out the boy racer behind you as he did not see it, I can see all 4 corners, A pillar's narrow, big windows, sit high up for great visibility, are you learn a few things with age.
I had a ‘92 Vogue for three years back in the early 2000’s and absolutely loved it. Dropped in a TVR 4 litre and then ran it on lpg. It was still a ruinous way to do 20k miles a year, but 17 years on I still miss it.
Hi, I was working as a student for an agency transfering press cars for Rover all over Germany. Coming as a 21 year old from driving a used Golf it was a impressive experience to drive a Range. I have spend a lot of time and several thousand miles at the wheel of Range Rovers Classic onroad, offroad, with trailer etc…. Still today driving a hugh variance of different - mostly rental SUV I still compare the drive experience with what I have had with the RR classic - and the biggest compliment I can give a modern SUV is that it feels like a RR classic. Have also spend some ( basically a lot of ) time in the later version I was impressed about the miles munching ability of that car in perfect quitness and comfort but - sorry - the imperfect magic was gone.
Don't think my unrestored 95 Classic rattles as much as that one, however, it wouldn't hold a corner at that speed either. Interesting to think of it as a small car now. It felt huge in the 1970s but partly from the turning circle, so it not really better in tight carpark.
Showing the modern Range Rover next to the classic did show how much bigger modern cars are, but the really telling comparison was in the carpark when driving next to a Mini Clubman. That Clubman looked massive.
I owned a completely clapped out series one back in the eighties. I bought it for five hundred pounds and drove it into the ground around the Devon lanes. What I loved about it and this one was the glass house. So much visibility which is wonderful along high banked country lanes. This classic now is my favourite version. The new ones are great but far to fancy and slick for my tastes.
Good, honest, balanced appraisal as always, Harry. If I had the budget for such a vehicle, I'd want to be involved in all the major decisions (suspension, gearbox, interior and exterior finish etc.) - which it sounds like you can be with Kingsley. Perhaps they missed a trick supplying this particular vehicle?
That engine simply sounds amazing! I have been fortunate enough to have owned two RRC's and two P38's (4.6 V8 and 2.5TD) and would implore Harry to test drive a P38 4.6 V8. I have not owned a L322/320 and indeed a friend recently observered that I have not owned a car or motorbike built this century but I do feel the P38, with the RIGHT engine, is an incredible machine and would fit very neatly between Harry's RRC & L322. It is well documented that the P38 2.5 TD is asthmatic and grossly under-powered whereas the full-fat 4.6 will do all you ask of it all day long and more besides and then when you want to mash the loud pedal it will give you quite a shock! THEN switch it to Sport Mode and you will REALLY understand why I rave so much about this car. Also, those screws on the taillights of the RRC, its only four to remove the rear lens and the other four remove the actual lampholder assembly* *zips up anorak! ;-)
Modern cars are soulless boxes. With no character at all. Modern cars do not give feedback so speed is very difficult to determine. Some people are not built for real cars they want a PlayStation experience. Classic Porsche, Ferrari , Range Rovers, Rolls and so on are not for some modern drivers as they are too soft.
Harry, love the video and story, we too tried a diesel P38 and after a 3.5 Classic (They weren't called Classics then, I don't think) it's performance was as flat as a pancake! The salesman said 'you've got to drive it' which meant putting your foot on the floor and it was still deadly slow....we bought a 4.6 HSE instead which is now approaching 200k miles on it's original engine and transmission, plenty of oil changes on engine of course. Ten years later I was lucky enough to acquire a petrol L322 with only 12k on the clock which has also served us well, it's now over 100k and still running well.
Yeah this isn’t how they are supposed to operate. Some flare, sure, but that’s a lot for a V8 with 4 gears, even if it does have quite a high rev limit. Suspect poorly matched converter?
@@_chipchip Correct - there is something seriously wrong with that trans/converter setup. I suppose it's hats off to Kinglsey for recreating the terrible build quality of the original into their nut-and-bolt restoration.
Great review. Definitely a lot of pluses for vehicles of that size and vintage. However, I could never go back to those non-locking converters. It would drive me absolutely mad and represents everything I hated about automatic transmissions. Thanks for the throwback look!
With a pull point at 3 thousand revs, and max at 72 hundred, i'd say, they've tuned it to be a street light start hero. They had a shot at something, people would buy over the new Discovery here, yet they've gone for a show-off toy, for "glory era" cultists.. but wait, _people_ can't afford one, rOight..
Stunning car. If I had £170K I would join the queue for the soft-dash RR. The Kingsley Video is worth seeing. You are reminded that when the Series 1 RR came out at the end of the sixties, the ‘average’ motorist was in an 1100 or Renault 4. In the old 2-door Range Rover with all the glass and so high up, you were the king of the road. Thanks Spen King and Rover for such a beautiful design and thanks Kingsley for rescuing a field full of rotten old cars to recycle into this beauty. And thanks, Mr Harold Garage, for another spanking video.
Oh Harry, you've owned enough of these to know you can change a bulb with 4 screws. Each rear lens has, as shown, 4 short screws which secure the lens to the housing. Then there are 4 long screws which secure the light assembly to the body. The side reflectors might need a little slack in the rear screws if it's a tight fit to the lens, but I've never needed to do that to change a bulb. Otherwise a great review. That 170k Kingsley one has as many rattles as my 5k daily driver. Not sure about the value for money they're offering!
170k for a car that clatters and bangs along the road like an old scaffolding lorry is laughable. Perhaps a little over driven too at times I’m afraid to say which further highlighted it’s downsides.
The soft dash wasn't re engineered for the RRC, that was the first application & it went into the fscelift Disco as they are actually pretty much the same car under the skin. Doors etc are a bit different but the main under structure is the same. The term engineering seems to have been applied liberally to this bht not sure where the engineering actually is?
Well I’m impressed! Would love to see a bloopers reel….. rear end sliding round, front end chewing the hedge on the LH side 😂. There’s no better motoring show, still loving it!!! Thankyou Mr Metcalfe.
About those rear clusters, four of the screws hold the lens on to the cluster, the other four attach the cluster to the car. So, depending on which four screws you undo, you can take off just the lens or the whole thing.
As ever I find myself agreeing with you Harry… I had a 94 RR Classic 3.9 with air suspension and even now I remember it as one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. Go anywhere in style and I think it still looks good a quarter of a century later. I would also always want the air suspension, it just gave the car that ‘wafting’ comfort and the ability to raise or lower as required. It’s not a car to race around in and, (while I was seriously impressed at the way you were able to throw that Kingsley RR around), for me that’s not what the car is for. As you said it is still the ultimate car from farm work to Knightsbridge…. would I pay that price… No, but I would still love to have one in my garage 👍
I actually have been to Kingsley cars, and found them to be pretty rude and the quality of their finish poor. I have a 2 door range rover classic (which I love). I since went to a different garage who specialise in RR twentyten engineering, awesome guys there and... randomly turns out twentyten engineering made the original resto mod for Kingsley cars I think it was a white 2 door... who then marketed as their own....🤣
Kingsley 5L V8: 280-300 HP. BMW B58 3L straight 6: 335-375 HP (imperial) The Kingsley V8 has however 488 Nm torque while the BMW inline 6 has 400 to 500 Nm (at much lower rpm)
Baggy leather aside, this is a wonderful iteration of a Range Rover. The glass house is one of my favourite aspects of this motor. Writing as a GR Yaris owner.
Harry great review, I have to say the interior is very disappointing the finish is poor and the rattles saying that’s how they are is not an excuse that should have been fixed and the engine paintwork and some of the bolts and fixings don’t look correct and the car wanting to do 30mph without touching throttle clearly something very wrong!
Love the looks but those creaks and rattles would embarrass an 80’s Sierra, the way this resto mod scene is going there will soon be an classic Allegro being offered, a snip at £50k 😅
The Range Rover is a great design, classic good looking. Harry says this one could be better, and tells us how it could be better. As always another great review.
I love this shape of Range Rover so much and you can’t beat that sound but boy was that gearbox a joke, it hadn’t a clue what gear to select most of the time. Can’t say I was impressed by the trim either, that leather was ropey in alot of places. Id rather pass and get another place to restore one for me if I ever found myself with that sort of cash, great vid though Harry as per usual.
I don't know if they're using the original gearbox, but if they are it's possible the torque converter isn't up to the job of handling the extra power.
Great video Harry, nice practical test in the multi storey. I think as others suggest you'll be having yours done to your spec. Look forward to the next one. Ben
Cars have gotten much bigger but the roads haven't, if anything they've gotten smaller, it's almost comical that what was considered a big car is now the size of a compact car (a classic rr is shorter than an a3 sallon,and much narrower).I think it's also one of the reasons that Jeep was succesful in europe compered to any other american brand, it offered cars that fit our roads.
This is very much true. My old Saab 9000 CDE was considered a large car back in the day, used to transport executives and ministers etc. but these days it seems quite small even compared to a modern VW Jetta.
It was or is the best RR ever.Not sure i would pay that much but the basic model is soemthing that will go up and up in value.Thanks Harry superb as ever.
Love the old Range Rovers. When I was little one of my favourite toys was of an original, two door, Range Rover with opening doors, split boot etc. Ahhh memories.
As others have noted the leatherwork looks below par - more obvious from the still photos on the Kingsley website than on Harry's video - rear seats do not look properly stuffed, front seat backs loose and loose leather in the rear. The Suffix A car on sale on the website has a much more bespoke better finished interior - stitched leather dash and center console rather than the standard plastic fare here. I bought a suffix A from the first year of production a few months ago that Kingsley had restored some years ago to close to standard spec. I think I made the better choice to be honest but I was looking for the 1970 pure look and have accepted that we were less cosseted then.
This is by far the best design. I have just sold my TDV8 L320 Range Rover Sport which I felt was the closest design wise to the classic Range Rover. FYI a lot of people lower Land Rovers to be able to get them into multi story car parks without risk of damaging the roof.
We rebuild the old Defenders, if any of them have the slightest squeek or rattle it gets investigated until is found , they go out the door tighter and quieter than a new car. How kingsley can let that out the door with that price tag is baffling.
If I saw it correctly, the odometer reading during the brief moment Harry had that part of the dash in focus, showed something over 100,000 miles. I also noted that the initial start-up this Range Rover did each time Harry fired it up, was a bit on the slow side. This suggested to me that it's been awhile since this particular Range Rover had its last tune up. Finally, this vehicle Harry is showing us appears to be a Press vehicle, which, undoubtedly, has seen lots of hard use. All this, for probably well over 100,000 miles since Kingsley did its full restoration. Great job, Harry! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii.
Totally agree with you Harry , the size is a major factor , you get an iconic car that is drivable and maneuverable in town yet because there is little in the way of all the safety gubbins and huge pillars and bulkheads the interior is actually in volume not that much smaller. In fact my old school defender 110 which has been rebuilt from the ground up is vastly more practical than the new defender. It seats seven if you need for short runs , is perfectly square inside so you can fit lots of awkward stuff right up to the roof , tows 3.5 tons and 1 ton payload is way narrower than the new one with short overhangs and if you fit spacers as I have and wind back the steering stop you can get a really good turning circle . Ok it’s bumpy , noisey and rattles even after a full rebuild but whatever anyone says when you get in every journey makes you smile and you can abuse the hell out of it and it still looks great .
The rattling would drive me up the wall if I'd paid that much. That's exactly the sort of thing that I'd have thought would have been improved over the original. Also wouldn't want it lowered, the imposing height was always a big part of the appeal.
£170k for the non-squeaky model?😹
My original one doesn't rattle like that, it is still on air though which does help.
"Re-engineered" doesn't mean reliable apparently lol.
yea creaky dash is pretty bad
Yup the rattling was very very off putting, on that alone is not worth the money they put into it, devil is in the details, they messed up by giving Harry that Unsorted rattlecan, now everybody knows.
Can’t beat seeing Harry ‘driving it like he stole it’ at 21.00m. All while doing about 50mph. Brilliant. The price of this car is absurd though.
I know. Seriously if you had the money would you spend 170k on one? I’ve gotta say i dont think i would?!
Yes it was epic.
For the money you would have thought they would fit a suitable rev gauge to show the 7200 rpm limit !
That is a pet peeve of mine on amateur tuner cars, let alone something you paid that much of a premium for.
The whole dashboard is a bit of a joke to be honest , squeaking and rattling .
It looks horrendous too ,surely they could have something a bit more bespoke for 170k ?
that would be a nice addition
@@Carrera-gp9od I think Matt Farah from the Smoking Tire would call it "inherent shitboxness" and something you can't quite fix in a classic unless you spent serious money. Well....you are, here and yet it persists.
@@Carrera-gp9od a fair point, but it’s the original car redone and that’s how it looked. The rattling and squeaks actually that’s probably how it sounded too!
I had a ‘93 3.9 back in the 90s and loved it. The air suspension was great, when it worked.
I’d prefer just a fully sorted one rather than a sportified version like this.
Thanks for the vid, brilliant as always.
Is this worth £170k absolutely not. Is it worth spending 30-40k resurrecting your old one? Quite possibly.
Ground up restorations, that too with a significant amount of craftsmanship involved and modifications are never cheap when you figure that they also have to recoup the investment in the machinery and other stuff. Case in point: Singer, Guentherwerks, Alfaholics etc.
@@subarnosinha8042 Your examples are at a completely different level. Singers used to be much cheaper, but even those cars had stunning level of attention to detail and technological updates. Not saggy leather, creaking dash, poor shock absorbers and non-functioning buttons. £170k is a mad and greedy price for this.
@@ComeJesusChrist I completely agree! I look at the £170k price tag and wonder where the money has gone. Especially when some electric conversions out there are costing less. It's not everyones cup of tea, but at least you can understand money has been spent on it. I can't believe that leather trim passed quality control.
@@liammccarthy2304
What has an electric conversion got to do with a complete rebuild restoration. Such a car cannot be had for less than £100000 and that excludes the car.
The depth and subtleties of this review proofs, if any was needed, why it's so enjoyable to watch Harry's Garage.
The classic shape is a really great design that still looks good today,
the seats seem to be a bit rippled, the bag stowage area leather trim is a bit ropey too, I would be sending it back at £170k
First thing I thought, £170k for baggy seats and a plastic dashboard. Really not worth it.
@@losslessification 170k and the tach goes up only to 6k, too. Not very difficult to make a new cluster at that price point.
And at 170K I would have hoped they could sort out the noisy dashboard as well!
I actually prefer the previous dash to this one, much simpler and elegant looking and no ford cast off windbag steering wheel! I actually preferred the cloth option back then, looked much nicer than the leather I think!
the seats look like Stevie Wonder cobbled them together from some PVC in a rush.🤣
Is used to own a Range Rover Classic and I quite like both the idea of a fully rebuilt Range Rover and this particular spec of green outside with beige leather inside.
However, the rattly dash, non-functioning buttons, incorrect tacho, ripply seats, missing rubbing strip, under bonnet insulation and the cubby box lid make me wonder what else they’ve cheaped out on.
My money would be elsewhere.
If I were a customer (which I am certainly not) , I would have a heart to heart with Kingsley's quality control director. The leather work in particular is below standard at this price level.
I saw the back of the drivers seat as well,not that I`m in the market but I wouldn`t bother.Overfinch if I could.
No idea who would actually buy this over a modern version. The trim looks dreadful.
lol isn’t the dogshit build quality in keeping with the Land Rover Tradition?
@@teamtoken not at this price. It better be frickin' perfect.
Adjusted for inflation, the price hasn’t changed!
Two remarkable cars: 13:23 Firenze Red Freelander ll facelift and 15:20 1971-72 Bristol. Great video.Thanks.
Sounds like Harry is thinking of restoring his old & original RR…. I vote ‘yes’, enthusiastically … it would be a great next project .
But he said he was thinking about it 5 years ago in his last range rover classic video
Check out the Irish UA-cam channel "Soup Classic Motoring", and you find his episodes and a summery video of his full restoration of a 1991 RR. It's nut and bolt. Very interesting, and he uses very cool timelapse
1000% agree.
@@Czechbound yeah I've watched a good chunk of that
Is it a real Overfinch Conversion or just a sticker
"lets see how we get on in here" NOW THAT IS A CAR REVIEW. Many thanks Harry this is lovely. "Getting it round the dial" good good stuff.
£170k for a Range Rover without proper air suspension and crashing and banging from the cabin is simply unacceptable. Lovely bodywork, interior and engine but even still….
I suspect they don't expect them all to be driven like this. I'd rather have the original air setup. Yes it rolls about but that's part of the charm. I quite enjoy mine (not currently as it's waiting for an engine rebuild).
I don't even think the bodywork is that good. Paint yes, that looks lovely and shiny, but the shutlines are as bad as the original and could have been reengineered with new door skins to just tighten them up a few mm to an acceptable standard that even an Austin Allegro beats 😂
Even the interior isn't that great with the same dashboard as an old discovery with plastic stick on wood and wrinkly leather!
@@JDStoneCreations It’s real wood! I think it will look wrong if you try and shut the panel gaps.
Yeah I thought the cabin rattle is terrible for that money who ever is buying them have too much money
Harry points out that each is bespoke: mods can be made to the suspension. For a bit more money, who knows what else good could be on offer?
I owned a few of these cars and loved them. Why manufacturers (all of them) have subsequently felt the need to make their cars bigger and bigger, particularly wider, is beyond me. This car is plenty big enough for most requirements, it fits into most domestic garages and, as Harry demonstrated, doesn’t even mind a multi storey car park. By the way, if ever there was any doubt, Harry is clearly a very accomplished driver - those bends, phew!
I'd wager they have done FAR more research than you.
They need to pack in more equipment, dissipate more heat, account for bigger people, (that have more stuff), and also be safer while carrying all this extra gear.
No way they'd make them bigger if they didn't have a reason for it.
Maybe those that build car parks should catch up with the world?
@@gottliebdee263 the size of the classic range rover still has a special place in my heart b/c it's the perfect size, greenhouse-like visibility, high driving position, good amount of space for 5 people and their luggage, and still not a pain to park in a typical parking garage. Sure, people like big cars and such big cars should be made, but there's a place in the world for cars this size too (exemplified by the crossover market today). This was a 'large' SUV when it first came out, but nowadays its smaller than a Rav4 or CRV, except in height.
I think such a vehicle, but with a more robust engine for better towing, or even an EV version to improve its reliability, would prove incredibly popular today.
With the greatest of respect to them, but for £170k, the retrim on those seats is truly shocking. The retrim on the seats of my old Morris Minor Pickup restoration is far better...... and I've never even given them a second glance! Wow, I think they need to send their trimmer to Specsavers!
"the retrim on those seats is truly shocking."
It's looks like the leather on Michael Jackson's face! This is a 20-30k conversion ... tops! £170,000 Kingsley are taking the urine!
It’s a whole lot more than just a retrim, a whole lot more.
LOL, Harry at 20:59 just fanging it around that corner. Only Harry, that's why his channel is just compulsive watching, brilliant. I would love one of these but that suspension would ruin it for me. Give me the old fashioned Range Rover galleon handling. Great job Harry!
Once again a fantastic car drive, no stupid music in the background. Just pure engine sound and road. Cheers mate always a pleasure watching.
£170k!? That is ridiculous...
Absolutely
@@robertoneill4370 Absobloodylutely !!
@@gazzafloss 😂
It's worth every penny, I suppose no one buys such a car on finance😅
Can’t put a price on class
A braver man than me Harry, throwing it into that right-hander!
To be completely frank, it's a bit rough for a 170k car... the leather is wrinkly, tucked under, switches with no function and a very obvious dash rattle. And the transmission could very well use some work, there is no reason lockup can't be used on lower gears with a more modern TCM that are available today.
My exact thoughts as soon as I saw the leather. Terribly trimmed. Makes me wonder what else they're touting as premium which is actually not.
Fully agree on the build quality.
Would be OK if they asked 70 or 80k, but certainly not for 170k
I suspect that the transmission slips. Yes, old automatic trans did a little bit what he show, but never that much!
Why have they not set it up with sports and eco mode, or cruise control, driving like this over a long distance will get very tiring.
@@alexandrecouture2462 It's the extra revs, 4.5k to 7.5k on this one, much too high RPM for this type of car, you would feel like you're racing all the time.
Harry is the only car-reviewer I´ve ever seen that takes the car into an actual everyday situation: parking! More of this please! :D
The rattling would drive me nuts after spending that kind of money🙃
Great review as always, Always loved the RR since my dad’s first one in 77. But £170k and it squeaks and Rattles like that. No thanks I’ll put up with the 10” extra width and an extra £70k in the bank I think.
Lovely old thing, however at that price the quality of the reupholstering on the back of the driver seat is simply unacceptable
Have to say the leather work didn’t look that great to me
@@karlx19
It's actually cheaper to get a full retrim from Connolly with their superior leather.
Hear hear.
@@paulie-Gualtieri. I thought Connolly had closed down?
Have a look at the leather dash in our Tesla powered Range Rover Classic. Far beyond this and what you’d expect at this price point. More details coming soon - instagram.com/inverted_ev/
Was superb in its time, I ran one for 3 years back then. Wind noise, fuel consumption, noisy hyvo transfer box, creaky interior, wiring harness gremlins (water ingress, on an offroader!) and yes the rusting tail gate. Despite all that it was brilliant but for modern driving if the fuel and emissions costs dont get you the crash protection might and at £170K my Rose tinted glasses have just steamed up.
5:55 - the state of the leather on the back of those seats!!
I've owned 3 Range Rover classics, the final one was the soft dash. All 3.9 short stroke engines. Fantastic car and the size was perfect by comparison to the later generations. Off road they are extremely capable vehicles, far superior to l322 l405 models that followed.
Thanks for sharing Harry!👍
Seems like a crazy price to me. Each to their own I guess
A lot of money to ruin a car.
@@Boric78 They haven't ruined it - they just haven't improved it very much, at least not as much as you'd expect given the insane price.
Someone must be pocketing minimum £140k for each one...
@@gro9465 more like pocketing 167k.
@@resjon7981 Yes could be. Apparently there are fields of rotting Range Rovers used for the "renovation"...
Powersliding a Range Rover through the B-roads of Burford - only on Harry's Garage!
That's some proper driving! I was actually scared when Harry attacked those corners with such strong steering wheel inputs, but he kept it there and that re-engineered sport suspension obviously deserves credit too. A regular Range Rover would have wallowed away into the bushes, or at least would have looked seriously scary hanging on through the turn. My biggest let down is all those rattles; I wouldn't be able to live with that, especially not at £170.000!
Me too
The rattles are the compromise you make for it being good in corners, although I still don't think it's worth it, I'd rather still have Air suspension
Thats the difference between a driver who thinks they are actually a good driver ..... and somebody who really IS 🙂
@@GPR111 Harry is obviously an excellent driver! As far as I'm concerned, he's as skilled a professional driver as I've ever seen. Andy McKane, Manunaloa, Hawaii.
The large greenhouse interior (lower window sills, smaller pillars) is also the beauty of older vehicles. Thanks
For 170K it rattles more than any of my Rovahs did! I had a 95 Classic and have 3 x P38s. Totally on point review!
It rattles Same as the originals.
The original 3.9 Range Rover wasn't as slow as Harry said at 16.49. The specs he shows on screen are for the diesel model. Great video. I really want one, but I can think of 170,000 reasons why I won't be getting one.
I'm glad somebody else clocked that too.
Let's see how it goes round this corner - Harry absolutely wanging it round like its a BTCC! Lol! Made me laugh 😃
Confirmed: Harry clearly has balls of steel to take the corner at that speed or ultimate confidence in the product.
That made me burst out laughing too - "let's see how it goes around this corner" and I swore out loud as I watched him lobbing that thing into the corner on the edge of adhesion! Hilarious, gotta love Harry. :D
Very spirited way of taking that bend!
Bloody marvellous 🤩
Yeah, on public roads, too.
“Drive it like you stole it” should soon be replaced with “Drive it like Harry”
Long been my favorite Rangie, I’d be happy to get one for ease of use and style. In Australia they used to rebuild and supercharge the 3.9, if memory serves it was called a Vitesse motor, the less traditional owners used to fit old school Moroso and Donovan Chev motors, wild times in the late eighties and nineties.
Thanks for that info I'm going to check it out because my 2 door has a 3.9
£51k to do the restoration on the Jag which has clearly been done properly and £169k on this one which obviously hasn't been. Leather seats wouldn't leave Iain Tyrrell's looking like that and I doubt the dashboard would rattle either. Harry, restoring yours would make excellent video and I'd either give it to either the Jag or Zagato restorers. I reckon they would do at least as good a job for much less £s. That auto 'box is a joke. No way that's reasonable today for that money. Other options must be available. The positive? Fantastic colour!
Yes, I want to know the colour ..... mlppks very merc to me
Agree, my Land Rover Series 2A has seats upholstered better than this one.
I agree entirely, the quality control is abysmal. The bodywork may look gorgeous but the interior!! Unacceptable at that price 🤔
@@robertcarless7445 it looks like Ardennes Green to me, could be Brooklands Green
Exactly you could have a top notch professional restoration and just throw an ls in like they do with jensens and everything else anyway, have more power and a properly functioning transmission for a fraction of the cost.
25 minutes of Rover V8 goodness. What an absolute joy to listen to.
Agree with other comments, the finish just isnt good enough for 170k.
Did I just see an old Range Rover drift around a corner. 20:58. Harry you're a wild man 😆😆
Damn good, read professional, driver Harry is! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii.
Surely it’s would’ve been possible to fit an air ride system to the car instead of a system that makes it rattle and creak. Some of the leather seems to of been poorly finished aswell.
You are absolutely right.
*Seems to’ve
Harry's Garage this is the best Range Rover rebuild to life . thanks team harry I look forward to seeing more this classic Range rovers clips
Good luck to Kingsley, a timeless classic with a modern twist and the ability to have it built just for you.
One of the things I like the most about classic cars is their size. When will manufactures realise that overly large cars are a pain in the arse.
I love Harry's driving style! He drives this Kingsley Range Rover harder than any other Range Rover I've ever seen drive on paved roads. Keep making such wonderful and interesting videos, Harry! P.S. Read many of the comments from viewers when this review was listed at 460k views with 2 years since being placed on UA-cam. If I noticed correctly, the Range Rover Harry is driving has something over 100,000 miles on its odometer. This probably a "Press vehicle," and, as such, has been driven very, very hard by many drivers who have vastly less skill and ability than Harry does. Thank you for such wonderful videos, Harry! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii.
The classic range rover is a fantastic piece of design and I've always loved it since the first time I set eyes on one. However, anyone willing to pay £170k for one clearly has a screw loose.
For a 170k, id have atleast 10 standard classics, not one of these
So does the dashboard with all that squeaking.
And before long there will be several screws loose by the sound of it.
Hence 16 screws per rear lens cover 😘
I would not even pay 17k for one let alone 170k!
I remember in Australia in the 1980s and 90s everyone swapped the original motors for 5ltr GM motors which made them more reliable, faster, more economical and cheap to maintain. They were easy to find for 15 000 to 20 000 Australian dollars!
I’d love to see the dash rev out, but if they wanted a sport suspension, put sport wheels/tires too. Choose a purpose
Love the variety of cars you feature Harry, superb!
It’s striking how much bigger cars have gotten these days though, parking next to the micra was quite a surprise in comparison!
Harry, the other thing I like about classic 4x4s is, they are not pretending to be a sports car, the suspension is smooth and compliant for long trips, no rubber bands for tyres, some of my work colleagues prefer my classic 4x4 to much more modern 4x4s as it is so comfy, you don't pick up the harsh road surface and you don't notice speed humps as you go over them without slowing down, freaks out the boy racer behind you as he did not see it, I can see all 4 corners, A pillar's narrow, big windows, sit high up for great visibility, are you learn a few things with age.
I had a ‘92 Vogue for three years back in the early 2000’s and absolutely loved it. Dropped in a TVR 4 litre and then ran it on lpg. It was still a ruinous way to do 20k miles a year, but 17 years on I still miss it.
Hi, I was working as a student for an agency transfering press cars for Rover all over Germany. Coming as a 21 year old from driving a used Golf it was a impressive experience to drive a Range. I have spend a lot of time and several thousand miles at the wheel of Range Rovers Classic onroad, offroad, with trailer etc…. Still today driving a hugh variance of different - mostly rental SUV I still compare the drive experience with what I have had with the RR classic - and the biggest compliment I can give a modern SUV is that it feels like a RR classic. Have also spend some ( basically a lot of ) time in the later version I was impressed about the miles munching ability of that car in perfect quitness and comfort but - sorry - the imperfect magic was gone.
Please Harry, even if your motorbike videos are not the most popular, motorbike enthusiasts are the most loyal. Please continue catering for us.
Even though the enduro bike videos didn't do as well I loved them Harry, need more!
It depends on the suspension set-up selected, but yes I couldn't live with that ride.
Agreed!
second that. he rides his bikes like he drives his cars, something else!
Don't think my unrestored 95 Classic rattles as much as that one, however, it wouldn't hold a corner at that speed either. Interesting to think of it as a small car now. It felt huge in the 1970s but partly from the turning circle, so it not really better in tight carpark.
Got to admire the balls on them for asking 170 grand for a polished turd.
It is a completely rebuilt car. With probably 1000 hours of build.
@@Art-is-craft still a turd.
Showing the modern Range Rover next to the classic did show how much bigger modern cars are, but the really telling comparison was in the carpark when driving next to a Mini Clubman. That Clubman looked massive.
I owned a completely clapped out series one back in the eighties. I bought it for five hundred pounds and drove it into the ground around the Devon lanes. What I loved about it and this one was the glass house. So much visibility which is wonderful along high banked country lanes. This classic now is my favourite version. The new ones are great but far to fancy and slick for my tastes.
Good, honest, balanced appraisal as always, Harry. If I had the budget for such a vehicle, I'd want to be involved in all the major decisions (suspension, gearbox, interior and exterior finish etc.) - which it sounds like you can be with Kingsley. Perhaps they missed a trick supplying this particular vehicle?
Cracking video as ever Harry. Love old rangies, especially retromod ones!
A very Wallace & Gromit comment. I love it!
That engine simply sounds amazing!
I have been fortunate enough to have owned two RRC's and two P38's (4.6 V8 and 2.5TD) and would implore Harry to test drive a P38 4.6 V8. I have not owned a L322/320 and indeed a friend recently observered that I have not owned a car or motorbike built this century but I do feel the P38, with the RIGHT engine, is an incredible machine and would fit very neatly between Harry's RRC & L322. It is well documented that the P38 2.5 TD is asthmatic and grossly under-powered whereas the full-fat 4.6 will do all you ask of it all day long and more besides and then when you want to mash the loud pedal it will give you quite a shock! THEN switch it to Sport Mode and you will REALLY understand why I rave so much about this car.
Also, those screws on the taillights of the RRC, its only four to remove the rear lens and the other four remove the actual lampholder assembly*
*zips up anorak! ;-)
So let me get this straight....£169,500 and it rattles like a basket full of crockery whilst you're driving?....really?
and the suspensions are a bit shite
Well Harry did drive the Countach with a gearbox full of swarf for 12k 😂
That thing is horrible for that price..
Modern cars are soulless boxes. With no character at all. Modern cars do not give feedback so speed is very difficult to determine. Some people are not built for real cars they want a PlayStation experience. Classic Porsche, Ferrari , Range Rovers, Rolls and so on are not for some modern drivers as they are too soft.
Harry, love the video and story, we too tried a diesel P38 and after a 3.5 Classic (They weren't called Classics then, I don't think) it's performance was as flat as a pancake! The salesman said 'you've got to drive it' which meant putting your foot on the floor and it was still deadly slow....we bought a 4.6 HSE instead which is now approaching 200k miles on it's original engine and transmission, plenty of oil changes on engine of course. Ten years later I was lucky enough to acquire a petrol L322 with only 12k on the clock which has also served us well, it's now over 100k and still running well.
That amount of torque converter slip would drive me crazy
Oh they all do that sir
Yeah this isn’t how they are supposed to operate. Some flare, sure, but that’s a lot for a V8 with 4 gears, even if it does have quite a high rev limit. Suspect poorly matched converter?
@@_chipchip I also suspect a slipping transmission.
@@_chipchip Correct - there is something seriously wrong with that trans/converter setup. I suppose it's hats off to Kinglsey for recreating the terrible build quality of the original into their nut-and-bolt restoration.
@@_chipchip it's normal for an old 4 speed box
Great review. Definitely a lot of pluses for vehicles of that size and vintage. However, I could never go back to those non-locking converters. It would drive me absolutely mad and represents everything I hated about automatic transmissions.
Thanks for the throwback look!
With a pull point at 3 thousand revs, and max at 72 hundred, i'd say, they've tuned it to be a street light start hero.
They had a shot at something, people would buy over the new Discovery here, yet they've gone for a show-off toy, for "glory era" cultists.. but wait, _people_ can't afford one, rOight..
Stunning car. If I had £170K I would join the queue for the soft-dash RR. The Kingsley Video is worth seeing. You are reminded that when the Series 1 RR came out at the end of the sixties, the ‘average’ motorist was in an 1100 or Renault 4. In the old 2-door Range Rover with all the glass and so high up, you were the king of the road. Thanks Spen King and Rover for such a beautiful design and thanks Kingsley for rescuing a field full of rotten old cars to recycle into this beauty. And thanks, Mr Harold Garage, for another spanking video.
Oh Harry, you've owned enough of these to know you can change a bulb with 4 screws.
Each rear lens has, as shown, 4 short screws which secure the lens to the housing. Then there are 4 long screws which secure the light assembly to the body. The side reflectors might need a little slack in the rear screws if it's a tight fit to the lens, but I've never needed to do that to change a bulb.
Otherwise a great review.
That 170k Kingsley one has as many rattles as my 5k daily driver. Not sure about the value for money they're offering!
Just lovely. Would have that in a heartbeat over any version of the latest one.
Another great video Harry - thanks for bringing us such interesting content!
170k for a car that clatters and bangs along the road like an old scaffolding lorry is laughable. Perhaps a little over driven too at times I’m afraid to say which further highlighted it’s downsides.
The soft dash wasn't re engineered for the RRC, that was the first application & it went into the fscelift Disco as they are actually pretty much the same car under the skin. Doors etc are a bit different but the main under structure is the same. The term engineering seems to have been applied liberally to this bht not sure where the engineering actually is?
It is certainly not worth that much money, but how do you put a price on sentimental value?
Well, you throw some darts and come up with 170,000.
I'm amazed that the old BOP (Buick-Oldsmobile-Pontiac) aluminum 215ci V8 kept going on into the 5.0L in the Kingley Range Rover.
I really don’t understand why anyone would pay 170k for one of these, I’d take a new one and the change
Yep
Well I’m impressed! Would love to see a bloopers reel….. rear end sliding round, front end chewing the hedge on the LH side 😂. There’s no better motoring show, still loving it!!! Thankyou Mr Metcalfe.
About those rear clusters, four of the screws hold the lens on to the cluster, the other four attach the cluster to the car. So, depending on which four screws you undo, you can take off just the lens or the whole thing.
Didn't know that, thanks for the info
As ever I find myself agreeing with you Harry… I had a 94 RR Classic 3.9 with air suspension and even now I remember it as one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. Go anywhere in style and I think it still looks good a quarter of a century later. I would also always want the air suspension, it just gave the car that ‘wafting’ comfort and the ability to raise or lower as required. It’s not a car to race around in and, (while I was seriously impressed at the way you were able to throw that Kingsley RR around), for me that’s not what the car is for. As you said it is still the ultimate car from farm work to Knightsbridge…. would I pay that price… No, but I would still love to have one in my garage 👍
I actually have been to Kingsley cars, and found them to be pretty rude and the quality of their finish poor.
I have a 2 door range rover classic (which I love).
I since went to a different garage who specialise in RR twentyten engineering, awesome guys there and... randomly turns out twentyten engineering made the original resto mod for Kingsley cars I think it was a white 2 door... who then marketed as their own....🤣
This comes as no surprise, what a bunch of absolute con artists…
Went once to view a vehicle I certainly won't be going back, Absolutely horrible attitude pre sale doesn't bode well for any issues post sale.
2-doors are the best looking ones. Mine has a 4.6 converted to 5.3 with T-top liners and fuel injection. From RPI.
What did they do that was so rude?
Did they not entertain you?
Can't stop staring at the F40 in the back
Kingsley 5L V8: 280-300 HP.
BMW B58 3L straight 6: 335-375 HP (imperial)
The Kingsley V8 has however 488 Nm torque while the BMW inline 6 has 400 to 500 Nm (at much lower rpm)
What is your point? The B58 is a turbo, the other engine is naturally aspirated.
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I think this V8 is outdated and a waste on more than one aspect.
The rear seat space in the LWB version is huge. Much prefer it to the standard SWB. Also comes with 4.2 instead of 3.9.
Very nice. But for my £170k I’d expect a more contemporary-ish autobox. Surely there are plenty of COTS 6-speed options?
Baggy leather aside, this is a wonderful iteration of a Range Rover. The glass house is one of my favourite aspects of this motor. Writing as a GR Yaris owner.
Old tech which when modified drives worse than the original.....great! I could think of a R E A L L Y long list of cars before ending up here.
Harry great review, I have to say the interior is very disappointing the finish is poor and the rattles saying that’s how they are is not an excuse that should have been fixed and the engine paintwork and some of the bolts and fixings don’t look correct and the car wanting to do 30mph without touching throttle clearly something very wrong!
Love the looks but those creaks and rattles would embarrass an 80’s Sierra, the way this resto mod scene is going there will soon be an classic Allegro being offered, a snip at £50k 😅
Never mind an 80s Sierra, a 60s Herald would be embarrassed by that many rattles!
@@saxon-mt5by 😂😂
The Range Rover is a great design, classic good looking. Harry says this one could be better, and tells us how it could be better. As always another great review.
I love this shape of Range Rover so much and you can’t beat that sound but boy was that gearbox a joke, it hadn’t a clue what gear to select most of the time. Can’t say I was impressed by the trim either, that leather was ropey in alot of places. Id rather pass and get another place to restore one for me if I ever found myself with that sort of cash, great vid though Harry as per usual.
I don't know if they're using the original gearbox, but if they are it's possible the torque converter isn't up to the job of handling the extra power.
Brilliant to see you hustle it round a corner like that harry! That was epic!
As an ex-Bristol employee, l've been hoping for years that you'd have a Bristol for a drive, Harry...
As a former Bristol owner, I agree - maybe a 411 s6?
@@davidalexander-watts6630 Yes, David. Or a S5. But, please, not a 603...😊
Great video Harry, nice practical test in the multi storey. I think as others suggest you'll be having yours done to your spec. Look forward to the next one. Ben
How on earth have they made that rudderless barge turn like that? 🤯 Very impressive! Can't say the price really speaks to me, though.
Thank God for the men building and keeping these vehicles roadworthy and more. Trully great people. Keep at it gentlemen.
Cars have gotten much bigger but the roads haven't, if anything they've gotten smaller, it's almost comical that what was considered a big car is now the size of a compact car (a classic rr is shorter than an a3 sallon,and much narrower).I think it's also one of the reasons that Jeep was succesful in europe compered to any other american brand, it offered cars that fit our roads.
This is very much true. My old Saab 9000 CDE was considered a large car back in the day, used to transport executives and ministers etc. but these days it seems quite small even compared to a modern VW Jetta.
It was or is the best RR ever.Not sure i would pay that much but the basic model is soemthing that will go up and up in value.Thanks Harry superb as ever.
The leatherwork on those seats is a joke for 170k.
Love the old Range Rovers. When I was little one of my favourite toys was of an original, two door, Range Rover with opening doors, split boot etc. Ahhh memories.
As others have noted the leatherwork looks below par - more obvious from the still photos on the Kingsley website than on Harry's video - rear seats do not look properly stuffed, front seat backs loose and loose leather in the rear. The Suffix A car on sale on the website has a much more bespoke better finished interior - stitched leather dash and center console rather than the standard plastic fare here. I bought a suffix A from the first year of production a few months ago that Kingsley had restored some years ago to close to standard spec. I think I made the better choice to be honest but I was looking for the 1970 pure look and have accepted that we were less cosseted then.
Re-engineered u said? They forgot about plastics inside. Sounds like it’s falling apart😁
But the appearance and sound of that cars is amazing!
For that kind of money I would expect a much quieter interior, no shakes or rattles and everything working.
This is by far the best design. I have just sold my TDV8 L320 Range Rover Sport which I felt was the closest design wise to the classic Range Rover. FYI a lot of people lower Land Rovers to be able to get them into multi story car parks without risk of damaging the roof.
We rebuild the old Defenders, if any of them have the slightest squeek or rattle it gets investigated until is found , they go out the door tighter and quieter than a new car.
How kingsley can let that out the door with that price tag is baffling.
If I saw it correctly, the odometer reading during the brief moment Harry had that part of the dash in focus, showed something over 100,000 miles. I also noted that the initial start-up this Range Rover did each time Harry fired it up, was a bit on the slow side. This suggested to me that it's been awhile since this particular Range Rover had its last tune up. Finally, this vehicle Harry is showing us appears to be a Press vehicle, which, undoubtedly, has seen lots of hard use. All this, for probably well over 100,000 miles since Kingsley did its full restoration. Great job, Harry! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii.
Totally agree with you Harry , the size is a major factor , you get an iconic car that is drivable and maneuverable in town yet because there is little in the way of all the safety gubbins and huge pillars and bulkheads the interior is actually in volume not that much smaller. In fact my old school defender 110 which has been rebuilt from the ground up is vastly more practical than the new defender. It seats seven if you need for short runs , is perfectly square inside so you can fit lots of awkward stuff right up to the roof , tows 3.5 tons and 1 ton payload is way narrower than the new one with short overhangs and if you fit spacers as I have and wind back the steering stop you can get a really good turning circle . Ok it’s bumpy , noisey and rattles even after a full rebuild but whatever anyone says when you get in every journey makes you smile and you can abuse the hell out of it and it still looks great .