Carpenters - Tonight Show 1973 part 2
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- The Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson
air date?: Monday, November 5, 1973
very special guests: Carpenters
Part 1 - Medley "Superstar" "Rainy Days And Mondays" "Goodbye To Love"
Part 2 - Talk about touring, TV series, record sales
Part 3 - "Mr. Guder"
all parts:
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Even her talking is a music to my ears... she is so dreamy....
Beautiful person what a great loss
These two were so adorable! Kind of awkward and stumbling. Love it!
When most people were still kind and gracious to one another.
Now we have liberal losers.
They were the best i have ever heard Richard you are genius and Karen was the best female singer ever you are missed
I just love seeing Karen. Such a great personality. Love listening to her radio interviews as well. She just always seems so sweet, genuine, just an adorable woman. I wish, just maybe if one thing in life had been different for her, just maybe, her ending could have been so much different. Very sad to have lost her so young......the world lost a great one for sure!!
The Carpenters are brilliant. Karens drumming was fab!!
"I was the only girl in the group, so they were looking at me." No, Karen. It was your impossibly gorgeous voice that made them look to you to be lead singer!
Damn Straight, When you have the most beautiful Voice God has ever given to a Living Creature, You have to get up from behind some damn Drums baby. We want to see the person who's blowing out this sweet wonderful sounds. Every Carpenter records touch your heart
Kr Mor well put my friend.
But Not only the most better and beautiful voice that ever I heard in my whole life...all of that she made it over the stage were AMAZING...
otherworld11 extremely well put.
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What an incredible voice she had and a great sound they had together.
Boy, the Carpenters are great especially Karen, but I am struck with how much class (in contrast if you know what I mean) Johnny Carson had. He knew when to SHUT UP - and wasn't afraid to go 10 sec without a TEE HEE or running off at the mouth. You got a comfortable interview when he was there. He let Karen's personality come through.
Johnny Carson brings back memories of my mama sitting up late, by herself, in a rocking chair and giggling uncontrolably, while us kids and Dad tried to sleep,lol. I remember Dad yelling at her "be quiet" and "when you coming to bed?" Gone way too soon, may her beautiful soul be with God, as well as Johnny's and Karens. We'll all be together again soon, the really good times have yet to come. :')
I love Karen’s speaking voice...
This is awesome!! I love all the parts for this. It is a good interview and the music is amazing!!! Karen and Richard are awesome and they will always be my favorite group. Karen will and always will be my idol and Richards genius with the keyboard and their sound, is great. The Carpenters are the best!!!!
Gosh I miss Johnny so much! His shows were always interesting,funny, and witty.I cried when his last show hit the air.The Carpenters were so big back in the day...I graduated 1976 I still have their albums stored. Thanks for the great memories.
Congratulations to Karen for reaching platinum on her solo album. It is really heartbreaking and sad that she isn't around to reap the awards from her hard work. Thanks goes out to Mr. Phil Ramone in helping Karen come out of her shell and producing her solo. A&M was totally wrong about shelving Karen's solo. I am done with them. Truth behind the incident was pure jealousy. Karen is not her brother's shadow nor was she ever the third spoke in the wheel. As Ev delicately put it: Karen Carpenter was the Carpenters. Thank you, Karen ❤
Her solo album went platinum? I had no idea. I'm sure she's smiling.
Totally agree with everything you said. Thank you.
not entirely true but i agree
I saw the Carpenters in concert in 74 when I was 15, so she was only 24 or so. I never realized she was so young at that time. Now I have shoes older than 24.
This was a nice interview. Fun to hear Richard & Karen talk. They eventually did get a evening show? Karen really enjoyed it. But now I see a little peek of the pressure both were under! I mean it's 2020 & I can't get enough of the Carpenters!
Damn. Even her speaking voice is smooth. RIP KC
You're so right. Carson's class makes interviewing seem like a lost art.
just like there is no voice like Karen's there has been no host like Johnny.
They worked so much, excessively. They deserved more balance in their lives.
OMG, here Karen looks so happier and healthy, unlike the later years!!! Her voice was and remains a pure magic! Rest in piece Karen, we all love you!!!
Sorry, rest in peace, Karen, we all love you!!!
I miss Johnny! And Karen
They are both sweet as sugar, and truly genuine. What you see is what you get. Altho the road for that many years started to ware a little on them emotionally. You can tell by how Richard explains the stress. Overall they love making music #1
Karen,truly amazing Carpenter. There are amazing female Singers. Yet in her field, she was outstanding. I'm sorry that she, left this Earth 🌎 far too soon. ♥️⭐♥️🎶
Karen was basically forced out front, where she wasn't comfortable, and I believe that this contributed greatly to her eating disorder. She was a rather shy young woman, and was far happier behind the drums. RIP Karen.
great footage. Karen looks so healthy here. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for posting this. I forgot what a great host Johnny Carson was. I really wanted to hear Karen and Richard talk about their career and Johnny actually asked great questions at the right time. Richard and Karen seem like people you would love to meet. Their answers were so genuine and straight. Of course, you could say, " With a voice like that, how could you miss ? " but there were a lot of great voices out there at the time and I believe them when they say that it was a struggle. It's when you make it that, to the public, it seems like an overnight success.
People forget that changes and new things are not always better. There will be never another Michelengelo, Mozart, Beethoven, van Gogh, John Lennon, Karen Carpenter, and Johnny Carson just to name a few. Carson was very intellingent man and asks right questions..unlike today's mediocre and overpaid talk show hosts.
it's great to se Richard talkind and laughing in this
Great songs back then. What's happened to the music industry? Seems like it evolved into something evil.
Yep
Wanna know the problem? The music industry USED to rely on listeners to vote with their ears and decide which acts made it and which ones didn't... if people didn't like an artist, they didn't buy their music or go to their shows, and their careers dried up. Of course this created risk for the music companies, because producing a musical act take money. Today these no-talent or medium-talent acts are literally forced upon the public... basically THEY pick today's "stars" and just play their music everywhere until people think they like it (the human brain likes familiarity, so even if you don't like a song the first couple of times you hear it, it "grows" on you, and eventually you love it). This is also no doubt why these twerps don't care about their fans and act like jerks... they know that they didn't actually put them where they are.
yes...except Western and Gospel...most of it!!
Because its run and used by liberal losers.
They're not worthy of all that money they have the new music artist
This Is so good. Thank you...
You are completely correct. My dad played the Carpenters and the Beatles when I was little. I have old parents. They're both almost 40 years older than me. My mom was born in 1959 and my dad in 1964. They both know good classic rock. Especially my dad. He made me love the Carpenters, the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Queen, and Rush. All the legends in rock! Well except the Carpenters. They had more soft and sweet music
Lucky guy
In 1967 Karen Carpenter went on a water diet by eating healthier foods while exercising.and went from 145-120 and remained at 120 from 1967 - 1973. This is 1973. In August of that year Karen saw a picture of herself and thought she needed tone up. So she brought an exercise bike on tour with her. But instead of losing weight she was gaining muscle. So she said she was gonna "do something about it." In October of 1974 she started using sugar substitutes and ice cream from her diet which she loved. But it wasn't until September of 1975 that people started noticing that she had an unknown illness called anorexia nervosa when she went down to 91 pounds. So the Carpenters had to cancel their tours for that year until Karen recovered at Cedars Hospital. They rescheduled them for 1976. Anyway, love Karen's hairstyle here. Very cute.
Jane Porter karen never recovered. Gaining weight through forced feed is not recovery. Her mindset never recovered which is why she relapsed by76.
+Laura Dowling True
Johnny was such a good interviewer. Notice that albums cost a little over $2 ($1million = 440,000 units).
I love the Carpenters. I think I'm the only thirteen year old (besides my best friend) who actually knows who the Carpenters are. Its a shame. Kids my age should be more educated in older music. Istead they listen to Justin Bieber. I didn't even know who he was until this year. I was raised only on 1960's-1980's pop,
Leigh Via well done, your young musical taste is excellent
Leigh Via Lucky kid. You know what good music is, compared to most in your age group.
Great music is timeless
You would probably be good friends with the other young lady who left a comment very similar to yours. 😊
Love The Carpenters music and they did great music ! Karen had one hell of a voice !
Miss you, Karen! PP
Karen looks so good here, this was two years before she started starving herself,such a shame
I have a real fascination for the difference in a pop star between when you hear them SING and when you hear them TALK. It's like they're a different person. The best example of this is Elton John, but also Karen Carpenter. If you only ever heard Karen sing, you would get the idea that she is this wise, mature woman whose lived a little---and then when you hear her in an interview, she becomes this innocent, playful little girl that she really was in real life since she was just barely out of her teens at this time.
It is interesting. I like hearing her talk and her singing voice is so legendary, but she does come across like a little girl when interviewed.
Johnny Carson was and will always be the King of Late Night.
So true !!
Fantastic footage from the past, I liked the part when Karen said their chartered plane lost an engine, then they showed that familiar look on Johnny's face, like he was saying OMG. Wonderful video!
When I was a kid, I listened to Cream, Doors, Hendrix, The Who, etc. Though the Carpenters were sort of a Pop group, they took it to another level. Karen's voice is just so beautiful and appreciated as much as the rock groups.
Luckily in those days, many of the great recording artists were able to produce their own music. Not like today's formula boy & girl lip sync corporate monstrosity American idol (karaoke) passing as music.
I am probably the only 14 year old who knows about The Carpenters in the 21st century. I hate that my generation wastes their time with today's pop and all the other hip-hop and rap and shit music. There will never be another duo like The Carpenters EVER. I still think I should have been born in the 50s or 60s because of the older music I like and the music in this time that I hate. I'm probably the youngest person here commenting on this. It makes me sad...
You have great taste Hannah and obviously a wonderful appreciation for music the way it should sound!
@@suzyq690 wow I wrote this so long ago. I’m 22 now & nothing has changed. I don’t keep up with modern music unless it’s the Foo Fighters cause they are one of the last real rock & roll bands out there. & the only pop artist I keep up with is Taylor Swift cause...I have no words honestly. What she did with Folklore & Evermore is timeless & beautiful. I want more of THAT 🥰 my taste in music is from having baby boomer parents & a dad that exposed me to good music before I could even speak. My baby videos have the Carpenters & the Beatles playing in the background ☺️ he still to this day will make me watch his concert dvds from the 80s. It’s bands like Queen & Rush. There’s been a lot of music in this house cause of my dad since the pandemic started cause of the lack of sports lol it gets loud in his man cave 🤣🤣 ive mostly listened to the carpenters, the Beatles & Taylor swift. Nothings changed for me. I avoid rap & pop music like the plague lol I want music I can relax to, that lets me forget about everything for a little while & the Carpenters do that for me 🥰
@@HannahShae16 Goodmorning Hannah! I wondered if you would even see my reply being so long ago! I am a baby boomer also so I understand! Rap music is so destructive and I feel it’s influence has ruined a lot of lives. Makes you wonder where we’re going next with music? Anyway, HAPPY NEW YEAR AND THE BEST TO YOUR FAMILY!
@@suzyq690 um rap isn’t destructive. It’s just music (or in my opinion just noise). Some rap can be destructive if it’s about drugs or gang life or guns or if it’s men dehumanizing women. But in general it’s not destructive. For a lot of women, female rappers are empowering. Female rappers are taking back ownership of their bodies because male rappers took that from them for so long with their songs & it was gross. There are way more female rappers than there used to be & honestly, more power to them. They can do what they want & im not going to judge them for it cause it’s their songs, their music & if they’re singing about their bodies, that’s their’s too. Rap isn’t for children, I don’t think children should be listening to it, but that doesn’t automatically make it destructive. I could say the same thing about male country singers dehumanizing women & call that destructive but not for a generation, it’s destructive for women. I also hate country music but the same thing is happening in that genre of music as is happening in rap. Women are taking back ownership of their bodies & minds. That’s not destructive. That’s empowering. I’m not going to listen to rap or country music but I’ll listen to what female artists in both genres have to say & back them up because they deserve so much more than the misogyny they have to deal with every day in the industry (same goes for female pop artists). That’s all. Happy new year 💘
Love this girl
Thanks For The Lesson.
Oh, The Denti More Stew..oh heck..spelling? lol Loved the plug at the end...they don't do that anymore right from the desk of the host. :P
Thank you so much for posting this video.
@DXWXMX44 I never thought about it but you are right - Mr Carson knew when to be quiet or said only enough to let his guests know he was really listening to them
They should have NEVER made Karen give up her drums.
I agree. I think that was the catalyst that was mainly responsible for her eating disorder.
Drumming *was* her first love. She considered herself a drummer who sang.
Yes. She might still be alive today if they had let her stay behind the drums most of the time. She looked her happiest when she was playing the drums.
Or let her split her time out front for the opening of their concert, then behind the drums, and finish back out front for the last couple of songs. But taking her from behind the drums probably had little to no effect on her developing Anorexia. It was more because she never got the love and approval from her mother that prompted the Anorexia.
Unlike a lot of famous people they just seem so ordinary, and that's a good thing.
Hey guy let your sister talk, she is who we want to hear.
This is the same month and year she first became self-conscious about her appearance on TV.
Really humble and very gentle people unlike 2 days ugly music industry everything's become twisted today and definitely not for the better
I would have loved to see them with Joan Rivers at some point.
1976 playboy music drummers poll. #2 John Bonham, #1 Karen Carpenter. LOL Priceless. Karen was totally it.
Karen, Bonham and Keith Moon, three of the best drummers ever died at 32... Sad coincidence...
I just discovered the headlines via google search yesterday. Absolutely fantastic. Go Karen! He wasn't very happy... LOL.
@@mpa417 Hmmm. Did you know him personally?
A gold record is $1,000,000 in sales, which is about 440,000 units. Ok class, what does that make your average 1973 record? A little over $2.27 an album. No, there's no such thing as the inflated dollar! I remember when most transactions were actually done in cash. Credit cards were new, and only for major purchases (i.e., not for gas, dinner, & groceries).
I did a cover of some Carpenters songs on BryndleBSings
combien tu nous manques très belle femme et chanteuse karen Carpenter ce très jolie nom qui a habité nos coeurs en écoutant les très belles chansons comme yesterday once more Solitaire etc.. avec la jolie et très belle voix d'ange mais tu es un ange qui nous a quitté depuis plus de 33ans nous avait souffrir par ta soudaine disparition tu ses une femme légendaire qui est rentré dans l'histoire femme pleine de douceur tendresse que nous avions remarqué dans les belles phrases et les mots qui avaient toujours une signification traduisant une réalité chez plusieurs personnes dans ce temps tu as ainsi rejoint les très grands chanteurs et chanteuses de l'équipe en or ou le chanteur et la chanteuse avait une très grande personnalité respectable par sa personne de principe qui dans leurs chansons traduisait les problèmes sociaux et individuels de chaque personne donnant aussi la joie le sourire aux personnes je ne manquait pas de suivre tes belles mélodies avec ta jolie voix douce qui ont dirait un ange qui chantait tu nous avait donné beaucoup de plaisir bonheur d'écouter ta très belle voix qu'une chanteuse depuis ta disparition n'a pu avoir tes capacités et talents combien tu nous manques à chaque fois que nous écoutons ta belle voix tu nous fais revivre notre jeunesse et l'époque durant la quelle nous suivions nos études universitaire rassures toi tu es toujours dans nos coeurs noué t'avons et continuons à t'aimer tu es une femme légende une chanteuse qui ne se répète pas Nous prions grand Dieu clément qui puisse te garder dans son vaste paradis ou tu reposes en paix nous t'aimons très belle karen Carpenter love love.
that's some funky "more to come" music lol
@frereslumiere I don't remember LPs costing 2 bucks. unless the price skyrocketed. I remember there were records for like 3.00-8.00 or so. 45s cost a buck, maybe that is what they mean...Sounds like that is the wholesale price...
Don't get me started on the Beatles! I have their entire works on my "nano" i-pod. When I like an artist, I tend to obsess on them. One you might like ( I can't be objective here) is Dire Straits. Classy guitar & lyrics. They are no longer together, but the frontman Mark Knopfler has a solo career, albeit quite mellow, but again, classy & great lyrics.
@DXWXMX44 UA-cam "andrew denton enough rope." Denton has the same interviewing style, he'll ask a question and let the person talk, usually they end up revealing more in his interviews than they would on other shows.
These were the days when hosts showed interest in their guests and didn't hustle them on and off real quick. Musical acts only play a song from their latest CD and then leave.
Good times back then
She gets embarrased at telling Johnny something obvious around 2:30 and he puts her at ease totally -- that is just one example of his class and decency. I miss that too.
@jamesings You are a person after my own heart. We, as a society, are supposed to embrace "change" (which is what is in my pocket!). But Jesus says I am the same yesterday, today, and forever. I think most people would prefer their lives to not change (much). Change = unpredictability, which = instability. Looking forward to an unchangeable eternity!
Mom said I looked terrible here. I agree don't remember now what the heck we were going through! Something!
I can sing well with Karen s voice ! But she sings far better than I can but my voice is a very pleasant voice but her voice was pure Golden !
People commenting on this like everything was perfect then as if this wasn’t the beginnings of the eating disorder that meant this young woman barely lived into her 30s....
You must have fine parents with great musical tastes. Not too many people your age would "stumble" onto the Carpenters on their own, so I can only assume your parents influence. I was about your age (actually slightly younger) when the Carpenters were at their peak. It's hard for an old fart like me to be objective on today's music. I'm sure there's some good music, I just don't take the time to find it. As one gets older, the more one waxes nostalgic for a time (& people) who are gone.
It's very evident from this interview how little Karen thought of herself. Her "that's bright" self-putdown after telling Johnny about the difficulties in a tv show. Also her "what the Heck did I just say?" look after she says "you're just busier happier." Despite that, I think she shone in this interview and Johnny really seems to like both she and Richard.
Perceptive observations. Thanks. Does Karen come across to you as nervous during this interview? She’s swallowing a lot and jumbling words. I’ve seen other interviews where this isn’t the case, so I’m wondering what’s up. They had been famous for a few years already. Might she have been nervous in the presence of Carson? I now see that you commented over a decade ago, so if you see this reply, I suppose you’ll need to rewatch.
@@deserthound2605 Maybe she's a little starstruck. We all know that she was just too hard on herself, which is why she's no longer with us. There was nothing wrong with anything she said, but she probably was beating herself up over whatever she thinks she said wrong.
They were just trying to look different than the generation before. That's how it is now and how it will always be. You have to realize that people had been wearing short hair and drab dark colors for DECADES before the late '60's.
RIP Karen we.love you
Karen was a goofy girl
I'm sad that no one else in my generation has good taste in music. It's all Justin Beiber (who can't sing) and One Direction (who I think are all horrible). The music industry was all but ruined in the early 90s when Grung came around (I don't know who "Grung" is by the way. My dad told me all this XD)
I was 6 .....
Karen was so young and dressed like a 80-year-old house Frau. She was actually pretty, but with the way she dressed, did her hair and makeup you never saw that.
Richard talks over Karen a lot.
Anna Demitri At 14, you are far more intelligent than many kids your age who think that some the so-called Pop Talent today can compare to this. Don't worry about those kids, it may take many years for them to catch up with you intellectually!
Karen had a one of a million voice...The sad thing was that Karen had the disorder Anorexia nervosa which tortured her in the late years of her life. She had such a complex over her weight that she would starve herself for days and weeks. At one point, she abused an over the counter medication named Ipecac Syrup and while abusing this medication she once weighted only 75 LBS. The disorder forced her after she ate she would vomit it back up while abusing these prescription drugs that controlled her appetite. After years of this abuse it weakened her heart and she died of a cardiac arrest....
i would not want their life thats for damn sure
The audio is awful
And it was sexism that moved her from behind the kit.
Yeah. And that's too bad.
Actually, I agree, because is was more than just her beautiful voice. No one forced Don Henley, Phil Collins and many more male drummers out from behind their kit. The powers that be also felt they had to "feminine" her up a bit, from being a tomboy all her life (her words and description of herself), and playing the drums from 16 yrs old on, ahhh, in 1969 that just wasn't going to do. It's very interesting to see early videos of her compared to years later. Bless her heart, "the business" had her change just about everything about herself but her voice, from her walk, to her body mechanics, to her natural mannerisms, to her clothing and what she "dug", to what she said and how she said it. The biography "Little Girl Blue" is quite telling with interviews coming from her friends and inner circle who knew her best. So, so sad, because in today's world, nobody would have cared if she were "tomboyish" and loved "playing football, baseball, softball" (her own words) and "hanging out with the boys". She loved "riding motorcycles", too, another direct quote from her when asked what she liked to do in her spare time. Yay! But the more popular she/they became the less and less she said about those things. God bless her.
@greenwich1754. Example of change: child is so nice and innocent but as they get older, they get corrupted by other misbehaving humans, TV, internet, etc. Then we die as the sun will swallow earth in 2 billion years. Americans only want things that are bigger, faster and more convenient. So less need for human skills as computer will do them. And there is no time to talk to our children and parents face to face. So the changes in the modern era are mostly counter-productive.
and then there's the traditional way of life in Africa, where they don't have any clean water.
Rock, and all other music genres of those decades. I must say I'm glad I didn't listen to today's music.
yes
Carson and others couldn't fool too close to them..they seem to real and not escaping the reality either of their down end of things. The people around them are oldies they could tell it was going wrong..
Huh? You comment makes absolutely no sense.
Could you rephrase that in English?
Ten years later, she was dead.
They worked themselves to death! Instead of 6-7 days per week on the road, they should have limited it to 6-7 days per month. The World really lost an Irreplaceable Treasure when Karen passed
I love her. If I was around when it mattered I would have cooked her a cheeseburger or soup. We all lose.
That dress looks like she got it off the clearance rack at a holy roller thrift store.
As fate would have it ....10 years earliers to the date the could have died right there enroute....its the same problem in thelifestyle...they deliver but who cares....that such endings 1983 happens anyways.
What is this, gibberish? Can't understand a damn thing you're saying.
What the hell has happened to late night TV? Now it's more like "The View" with a few untalented "singers" thrown in once in a while.
I wonder who dress her up in that weird dress?
Thinking the same thing... seems that in the early 70s, she wore these really long, extremely conservative dresses that made her look almost like a fundamentalist Mormon or something. Cynthia Gibb, who played Karen in the made for TV move The Karen Carpenter Story, wore some of Karen's actual clothes, including the yellow dress that she was in while performing "A Song for You." Cynthia said this was Richard's idea, and she found it a bit creepy.
@@kck9742 that was a jumpsuit popular back then I had 1 similar.
@@kck9742Of course it was a bit creepy, but that doesn't mean it wasn't good for the movie or the audience.
Great musicians, but not a personality between them.
Craig Culbertson:
They probably would have retired around 1995.
What? Karen had a terrific personality, and a great sense of humor. Richard, not so much.
so then I guess you think sid Vicious and Billy Idol have "personality."