Review | 2016 Nissan Maxima | The Unique Option
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- We look at the new 2016 Nissan Maxima a car that is trying to be a more affordable luxury based sports car. Will its quirky uniqueness be enough to capture buyers away from Acura, Lexus and Infiniti?
Written Review:
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Index:
0:00 - 0:39 Intro
0:39 - 2:34 Exterior Impressions
2:34 - 9:37 La Shoppe With Scott Turbowski (Underbody Impresions)
9:37 - 18:21 Driving Impressions, Transmission, Brakes, Motor
18:21 - 26:07 Interior Impressions, Infotainment, Seating and Ergonomics - Авто та транспорт
There are tons of so called car reviewers. But this is different. You are actually reviewing the car literally. Nobody is putting cars on lifts and looking at build quality. I appreciate that, to me that matters.
I cannot understand why people are disliking this, it’s one of the only channels that doesn’t feel like a shill reviewer.
Update: I bought this car new in 2016. I now have 105,000 trouble-free miles. Make sure you change the CVT fluid every 60K miles. Don't neglect the antifreeze either. Love this car, still pulls like a train!
How do you change the fluid? Can you get it all out?
@@fzr1000981 I have the dealer change it. Most likely they just do a drain and fill. They don't change the CVT trans filter either (I asked)-and yes, there is one. The good news-I now have 132,000 miles.
@mitchlu also looking at Q50 3.7L
@@fzr1000981 I like that car...and it has a geared transmission...approved!
Nice
Nice job. Finally found a real car reviewer.
these guys are killin' it
+zollotech Thanks for that!
+atl3630 You are killing me with your love.
Agreed! Love these reviews. Alot of work put into it. Concise, to the point, useful.
Ditto
You're the best car reviewer on UA-cam. Your level of insight, the depth of analysis and understanding of the automotive industry is unsurpassed. Keep doing what you're doing!
Totally agree. Always watch, but realised I hadn't subscribed yet. For what it's worth for him, I'm in now
So true. My absolute favorite.
I'll second that!
You know what problem is I miss the old fashion stats that you would get from roadandtrack like what's the quarter mile time and g level grip on that car. On the other hand it's definitely better than the tfl review
c'mon Infiniti😒 we're heading into 2019 and the maxima's interior still looks better
Aaaand fast forward 8 years later... this styling is still outdated lmfao
for you young people who where born after 1990...Nissan has been using the 4 door sports car theme since 1989 with the 1990 Maxima SE. I think they where the first to do this SE 4 door sports car so I guess they just keep the name for history purposes
9:10 Scott is a real wordsmith... BTW I have owned 3 Maximas and the 2011 I have now has three "shift" manners. Driving in D there are no shifts whatsoever. If you have it in sport mode and then push the gas pedal more than 40% you'll get fake shifting. But in reference to your claim on "inconsistency" I'll point out that the gas pedal has a virtual button at 99% travel. If you push the pedal to the floor hard you'll activate the button, it becomes shiftless, delivering maximum emergency acceleration and goes to its about 6500 RPM redline. Floor it at 99% (no floor button push) and it'll rev to about 5600 RPM and fake shift. This is not as hard on the engine of course and is "sportier". The 2016 may be different but I'm betting this is how it works, and I like it.
Too much programming for something defeats the entire purpose of the CVT.
I've owned 3 Maximas as well and currently have the 2011. 2605155 you're spot on with how the CVT responds to acceleration. The only thing I'd add is that when you're in sport mode and quickly accelerate, while already in motion, the CVT changes ratio as it normally does on its way to the optimal power ratio with momentary pauses at programmed ratios to give the driver the sensation of gear changes. Which doesn't result in a loss of power, only a delay in reaching the optimal power ratio of the CVT because the vehicle's acceleration never decreases. Just my 2 cents.
savagegeese It's easier on the engine then holding high revs all the time under medium to hard acceleration
He was right about others copying the floating roof line.
*coughs* HONDA ACCORD!
New blazer
Toyota Camry "cough... cough"
I'm glad I clicked on this channel. There're too many POV vlog style "reviewers" who just babbling about their generalized opinions and 5 cents jokes with a go-pro. Finally someone who ACTUALLY reviews the car with well thought-out ideas and amazing video quality. Thank you sir and please keep up the brilliant work.
BTW, the underbody impressions is such a unique yet informative section. Love Scott, he is so cool.
+Andy Wang Thanks, glad you appreciate the work. We spend plenty of time bringing cars down to earth and focus on quality. Sometimes we fail but seems like things are getting better.
I know this is an old video, but I bought a used 2019 SL because of this review. Geese sold me on this versus the Ford Fusion Sport. Interior beat the snot out of the Ford and honestly, Maxima FELT faster; not sure it was, but it felt it. Has more than enough performance to inject some fun in my drive to work! Love the car!
How do you like it after several months of ownership. How's the CVT?
@@Gropmag215 It's been a great car honestly, I'm very happy with it.
I came off a short stint with a 2016 Camaro SS, so the performance isn't in the same ballpark, but I also don't have to worry about the torque converter exploding either.
The Maxima has a little of everything; top-notch interior space, plenty of features on the SL trim (though I think the 2020 adds some more standard safety features), rides and handles very well for its size, and has enough oomph to keep things fun enough.
I've had no issues with the CVT. My wife has had a 2012 Nissan Juke for years and had no issues either, so I don't harbor the same worry about Nissan CVT's that most people do. The one in the Maxima seems to live up to Geese's review; it responds quickly and besides the occasional high-rev holds he points out, doesn't give you any nonsense.
The used card dealer I got it from also put a free 100,000 mile, 5 year powertrain warranty, so that really eliminated any potential worries about CVT reputations.
@@TheJimmyPops that sounds great! I'm not in the market to buy now, but maybe in a few years. I'm still trying to crank out 20yrs with my civic (on 15 lol). I like the Nissans, especially since they apparently have a reputation for comfortable rides. I don't have any experience driving a CVT, so I'm unsure why the majority hate them.
I'm pretty sure it's just a "feel" thing. CVT's don't make the typical noises, or have the same behavior, so if having the more "classic" sounds and feel are of vital importance, CVT's will feel weird; traditional automatics have more of a "rhythm" to their behavior which I think most people tend to appreciate more.
I wouldn't want one in a tried and true sports car, since CVT's typically don't respond the same when you mash the gas, but the Maxima also isn't a sports car, it's a sporty sedan, and I think people forget that about it.
"Savagegeese" is the only car reviewer that actually lifts up the car and gives a full details spec break down of the under-body with an honest mechanic (Scott Turbowski) he is the real deal!
There is something about a V6 that I like waaay more than the fours too, at idle it still allows use of accessories without feeling like the engine is about to stall...
+Mister McGill Yeah its just smoother.
+savagegeese yes it is.
I'm anxiously waiting to find one car that Turbowski doesn't shit all over.
+Rick B Next vehicle for review is a real gem!
he seemed to like the miata (the underside at least)
which year miata?
He loved the Hyundai Genesis
Lexus RC F
I miss the stickshift Maxima. My dad had a 95 SE, 5 speed, triple black. He never really pushed it. Had a younger uncle come and take me out in it.... I will never forget it. It was the first time I experienced a car at WOT. It was fast and loud. I was 10, maybe 11. That changed my life.
After I got older I got to appreciate the Maxima for what it really was. A Japanese Bonneville. Spacious AF, fast AF, comfortable but competent. And the stickshift (which was admittedly awful) dialed up the engagement a good bit. Nice to see the equal length secondaries on the y pipe.... it will sound sick uncorked. But that CVT has to go. Looks like they really covered all the other bases though. Interiors have always been a strong point for the Maxima.
Nice review as always
I remember those cars, they were quick. upset a lot of people lol
+future62 My first Maxima was around 95, had manual trans and 3.0L, was amazing. Thanks
savagegeese Yea my dad gave me that car... such a fun summer until a blown expired tire totalled it. If not for the gas mileage I might still be driving one.
future62 That generation of Maxima was beautiful. I remember the SE model having the white background on the speedometer. I think its referred to as the 4th gen Maxima.
Owned 3 of them a 91, 00 and an 03. All stick cars, lots of fun and could take a lot of other cars in a straight line.
Love the detailed, honest review. Bought a 2016 Nissan Maxima SL 2 weeks ago. Love to drive the car. Have not been disappointed yet.
that jamming bodies in the trunk part got my attention
Seriously, these are -by far- the best car related videos on youtube. And I guess that means a lot!
LOL that CVT sound.
Trust me most of that sound is the from the fake engine noise it plays from the speakers
I really doubt that. Why do you need fake engine noise when you have a VQ?
desertfox2020 because its really quiet with the stock exhaust.
Bjorn Ironsides, "I'm in stitches" is a very old expression, which makes you a huge idiot.
OK Ivar the Boneless. After an old expression has been used in a song, it should never be used again. Got it.
Your camera work and production skills are top notch brother! The best I've seen for any car review channel. Keep up the great work!
I like your reviews. I bought two of these for our home. We love them. Your review is accurate.
I rented one of these for a week in Arizona and man, this car feels alive! I currently drive a mazda 3 and normally when I get into a bigger car it feels cumbersome but not the maxima. Without a doubt this is a fast car and although I was skeptical I actually think the CVT made it more responsive, and sound track is better in real life. The interior is amazing too, only thing I kept asking was, what if this had RWD?
To anyone viewing this 5 years later, my wife has a Maxima and I have a Q50 Red Sport and I suggest picking up the Maxima 100% of the time. The Maxima Platinum trim is awesome and I wish I knew how good it was before dropping all the money on my Q50 RS.
Yup, I've had a '16 Maxima SV since new. Now have 95k trouble-free miles. And the 30-50 & 50-70 passing times on this car are still pretty incredible.
I bought my then brand new Maxima SV in 2017 & loved it, with literally zero problems!
I also had at that time a older 2014 Hemi powered Challenger, both cars had identical 0 to 60 times, as well as quarter mile times, proving the 666 pound lighter Maxima's 300 HP 3.5 V-6 could easily hold it's own against the famous Dodge 5.7 Hemi!
2 weeks ago, I bought a 2022 pre-owned Maxima SV with confidence & couldn't be happier & I still get a great sounding stereo with a great CD player built in!
This is exactly what I want out of car reviews- a majority of the stuff I see in write-ups or on UA-cam is nothing but dolled-up Form Letters. Keep up the good work!
I've watched a ton of 2016 Nissan Maxima and Murano reviews, and this one is by far the best. You touched on so many things all the other reviewers didn't. Thanks for this.
Its one of the last rare breeds left where a V6 exists with cloth seats still! I love that brute natural power of a V6. Theres no replacement for displacement!
The interior looks amazing, I would daily drive this car in a heart beat. I just wish it didn't have a cvt and was offered in awd.
Got one in 2017 pre-owned, 12K miles. I notice the same exact thing. If you take off from a standstill with your foot on the floor, there are no fake shift points. The fake shifts come during what I'd call more spirited driving. The same applies on the highway. I've taken it from 55-100MPH several times with zero synthetic shift points. However, if you let off the gas even for a fraction of a second, it reverts to the fake shifting. Whatever. There is some rhyme to the reason, methinks. VERY fast car for a $22K certified pre-owned with only 12k miles on it.
Yes finally! Excellent review :D I myself have just bought this over the holidays and it has surpassed all my expectations. This car is definitely NOT for performance/petrolhead people and is mostly for those who need an excellent day to day car but can't fully go into a luxury line. I went into my research without ever considering the "4DSC" title and was perfectly content. Idk what's up with people saying that they hate the look, unless they're more into cars looking like soapbars. As for the CVT, don't knock it til you try it.
hey man. I'm absolutely a fan of your reviews. Such depth is hard to find. I actually recently got the 2016 maxima and its a great vehicle for the price. fell in love with it the moment i drove it. Your review was spot on as far as the drive and interior and exterior is concerned. Just one correction: the centre console display can be completely turned off including its backlight. you just have to go into settings and disable the clock on the display. other than that keep up the great work bud. love it.
+Sal Hussain Thanks!! I missed the clock menu toggle, I'll add a correction! Glad you like the car. Appreciate the comment.
"I'd Break Into Someone's Maxima In The Middle Of The Night And Cut These Seats Out To Put Into My '88 Ford Tempo" LMAO!!!
If this car had a 7 speed auto it would be worth 60k
Yep, this car with the ZF-8 speed and rear-biased AWD would be fantastic
Even a 6 speed auto would totally transform this car.
@@thetechlibrarian no it would make it slow
If there is anyone watching this 3 years late like I am, the gas pedal has a switch at the end of the travel that I call the "oh shit" switch. When you floor it it will "auto shift" at around 5500-6k rpm, if you push down past the "floor" until you hear/feel a click it doesn't auto-shift and will rev the engine to 6700 rpm where it makes peak horse power.
I noticed with the CVT inconsistency you talk about, if you launch the car and there is ever a simultaneous tire screech/ traction screech, the CVT stays in that 1 gear and holds you in the power band, if its a smooth launch or already rolling, the shift points happen.
The interior looks better than the infiniti q50
I thinking the exact opposite :P
The exterior is better than the q50 but I'm sure the q50 has a better interior
@@marufio It does not! Maxima interior is top notch comparing to Q50 for example.
I stumbled on this review, now I have made it a goal to watch all of your videos
keep up the great work!
Great job, love the honesty and straightforwardness. Not trying to impress anyone but giving credit where credit is due.
"Will its quirky uniqueness be enough to capture buyers from Acura,Lexus,and INFINITY?"-Said a professional car reviewer, lol. Anyway love the reviews. Highest quality videos ive seen so far.
I agree; the Maxima is always a favorite rental.
One of the best reviewers on the tube, Thanks Brah.
+derickj1976 Thanks bro
I always found it funny that the previous Nissan Maxima and the 370z had the same mpg of 16/26. This CVT and upgraded 3.5L bumps it up to 22/30. Since the prior Maxima had the 3.5L, I thought Nissan would put the 370z's 3.7L V6 and 7 speed auto with rev matching in the 2016 Maxima. That would sure make it fly, but I guess they were shooting for fuel economy, and they didn't want to steal some of Infiniti's thunder, whatever that's left.
19city not 16 for the maxima
occckid123
Thanks. 19 city mpg for both.
The 370 doesnt really fly lol its pre slow in a big heavy 4 door itd be pre pointless itd be a bit quicker than it is now with worse fuel consumption
Aww man, this is awesome. People just don't know how important it is to see these cars in the snow.
best car to buy :) got one a month ago and im in love with it!
I miss having Scott’s insight. A mechanics point of view is a whole different world
Thanks for a great review! Good technical detail with intelligently framed pros and cons. I found this very informative and was happy to find that I accidentally lucked out buying a great car without understanding a lot about its technical aspects.
Apart from my ill-fated dream car folly experience with an Olds Aurora, (ouch!) I have been a Toyota-Honda fan for over 30 years, but I traded my 2012 Avalon for one of these Maximas in May and have been a walking ad for the Platinum ever since. After test driving an Avalon Hybrid, a Hyundai Genesis and some kind of Kia, I came to the Nissan dealer with a list of features that my ideal car would have. My primary concern was comfortable seats and blind spot warning. The Avalon's seats were deadly for my back on long trips. The salesman ticked off all my dream car features , and then oh by the way, it also has remote start, LED headlights and it drives like a sports car. I was pumped. The seats, my biggest requirement, turned out to be fantastically comfy! I figured this would be way out of my price range, but was pleasantly surprised when we came to a deal--more than I'd ever paid for a car, but if this is what it takes to get good seats, well...
I found myself agreeing with pretty much everything you had to say, particularly about the seats, handling and performance. It is a fun car to drive, particularly for someone who has never owned a sports car--well I had a Supra--but just enjoys driving. The main handling differences I noticed right away were how well it corners with no tire squeal even at 35 mph or so, and how well it stops with no feeling of diving. The "fly by wire" feeling works for me. Nissan seems to use some sort of intelligent braking software.
I love all the safety features, ICC cruise, FEB, sonars, cameras and MOD warnings since I often park in very tight parking lots. I had never had a car with CVT, so I was naive about the drawbacks. It is good to learn from your discussion that the Maxima has a good one. There are so many little details that make this car very user friendly. For example, the fuel filler door has no release button or cable. You just push the fuel door to open, providing the car is unlocked. Blind spot warning beeps if you use turn signal when there is a danger. The rear seats fold all the way down. Trunk will open for someone without key when doors are unlocked. Active noise cancellation--turns off in sport mode! The mirror dimming is the best I've seen. When in ICC mode, to pass you just activate the turn signal and the car begins to accelerate. Very cool. The glove box is huge. The "puddle lights" by the doors are very useful. You can easily mute the sonar warnings when backing up just by pressing the arrow button on the steering wheel. The wipers have always been an annoyance in every car I've owned, but these are the quietest I've ever had in a car. LED headlights are amazing. 18 gallon gas tank!
I just got back from a 1,000 mile trip. Average mileage for the complete interstate and in town trip was 35 mpg. I get 23-27 mpg driving around town. The intelligent cruise is remarkably accurate and works down to a complete stop. It takes a lot of pressure off of boring interstate driving.
I could go on and on, but long story short, I found my ideal car.
I think the car is under rated. I think having a different trans option would help give it more credibility for those who hate CVTs. It definitely has some of the best seats of any mainstream car and it has so much to like. I hope that the ownership experience for you stays good and problem free.
how has the reliability of this car been for you?
I bought my white Maxima Platinum in May 2016. Nissan people at dealership have been very friendly to me. Free wash any time I go there, free oil changes and service checks for warranty period. Nissan financing was quite surprisingly simple and flawlessly done. I have had zero problems so far with the car. I am still finding little surprise design features that make this a very user friendly car. As an electrical engineer, I find that Nissan guys have totally rethought everything to make life easier, even down to the gas filler door, and the multi-function control for the display screen, for example.
Anyone who hates CVTs should drive one of these. This is a whole different animal from what I have read. I do have a little torque steer on high acceleration, but I'm now used to it. There is never the annoying downshift jump that I used to get in automatic transmissions when accelerating hard from low speed. In sport mode, the response is even better and the steering is more like a sports car. It should be stressed that this is not a Corvette or a Bugatti Chiron, but it's sure a lot of fun to drive. 0-60 mph in about 6 seconds. That's 1 G! Do I sound like I love this car? LOL I still take it out for a spin on back roads once in a while just for the fun of it.
The voice recognition is pretty bad, compared to Alexa etc. Headlights are amazing. Seats are the best on long trips. I traded a 2012 Avalon whose seats were very uncomfortable. Heating and air conditioning, no complaints. Cell phone hands free BlueTooth, excellent quality. Navigation map and GPS entry, larger screen, are greatly improved over my previous experience with Avalon.
The first thing I noticed when I did a test drive was how the thing corners with ease at high speed, and does not dive in a panic stop. Very strange feeling, but exhilarating. Apparently, brakes are applied by computer to avoid oversteer/understeer and diving. I love the cameras (inc. 360 degree), the radars (front, rear and side blind spot) remote start, heated steering wheel and seats and most of all the intelligent cruise. Accent lighting is cool. Finally nearly totally quiet windshield wipers! One of my pet peeves over the years.
My mileage on a 1000 mile trip was 35 mpg, which included interstate and in town driving. Interstate at 75 mph was often 40 mpg on flat stretches and even higher when drafting a semi using the intelligent cruise.
The NissanConnect service, similar to ONSTAR, could be improved, but I bought it anyway. I have Sirius XM which I could not live without, and their data stream for weather and gas prices too, which leaves a bit to be desired.
All in all, I have become pretty much of a walking advertisement for Nissan after being sold on Toyota for many years. (Supra, and 2 Avalons) Nissan's emphasis on safety features is the wave of the future.
Jim Olowkow Thanks alot for the details. I test drove one when I commented. Now i am finally buying it. You are right about CVT on this car. People should drive one of these.
Features are amazing on this car.
Torque steer is something you can't avoid on a 300 hp front wheel drives.
Cheers
Whoa! Thanks for the comment. So glad you like it. I'm still in love every time I drive mine.
7:50 it's not missing direct injection, direct injection is the worst thing that has ever happened to modern engines. Aside from unnecessary downsizing in displacement, (below 2 Liters).
A combination of direct injection and port injection is the best system to have no?
Not really port injection by itself is fine. Direct injection by itself is bad. Having an engine that is both is "good" only because direct injection increases fuel economy
Turbowski really outdid himself here. He had me cracking up quite a bit with the TPMS part!
ONe of the best reviews I've seen. I absolutely love mine!
Re: CVT inconsistency
The Accord's CVT is set up for full throttle = full power (holding rpm at peak horsepower). Anything less than full throttle and you get the fake gear changes.
I didn't mind the fake changes when I drove one mainly because I was happy to have less of the rubber band/droning of older CVTs.
They're still garbage though.
CVT or not,, VQ engine baby. That CVT drone though..
11:50-11:55 I was convinced that it was a sound edit that was mocking the acceleration, especially with the expression on your face. But NOOOPE, just that "CVT OPTIMAL GRULLLLLLL"
+illitero It's so odd to hear namely in video. It's like revving motor in neutral to redline and holding it only you are accelerating.
savagegeese That really does have to be a strange sensation, especially being an enthusiast. I can appreciate the potential performance gains by keeping the engine at the sweet spot, but damn...the only sense of power or speed is conveyed when your ass is in the seat.
Ha ha. Update. I got one of these for a rental. Disregard my comments on the CVT, it was easily the best thing about this car IMO. It takes a little time to understand how it works, but I thought it was brilliant. Basically if you give it anything less than full throttle I think it does the fake shifts. But if you want max power it holds at redline. At least that's how I remember it working.
I have driven the best autos the game has to offer (ZF8, VW & Ferrari DCT).... but it was this transmission that edged me over to break my 7 car manual streak and get an automatic. And actually, if these were in my price range equipped how I wanted, I might have got one. But I got a G37 instead. This was really an awesome 7-8/10ths car.... perfect street car.
I think it looks okay. The "wood" trim inside. I don't really view as real wood, but as interior trim that is not black or faded out silver. It gives a contrast to all the overwhelming expanse of black inside.
have you ever thought about moving away from the cold-close on videos after interior impressions, and doing an overview? The closes always feel a little abrupt. Even some v.o. over b-roll might help. keep up the great work, just my 2 cents. Really like your presentation style.
I have thought about it. Some cars get a conclusion others don't. Not sure why, but next few I will make that change.
+vindapanda I agree, it feels really jarring when the video just ends so abruptly, was especially notable in the this one.
I agree it feels sudden, but I like it. I think to myself "well, dude told me about the car. I make my own conclusions about how I think I'd like it."
Yeah, I totally get that side of it. That preference for piecing together his views on your own makes the difference between seeing the car from his overall view, and seeing it through an interpretation of his prior bullet points. I, personally, watch his videos for his unique perspective. Him not providing a conclusive ending that defines the car as something outside of the sum of its parts, as he outlined in prior sections, detracts from my understanding of his overall point-of-view about the identity of the car as a whole. It's easy to go through and talk about the exterior, interior, and the experience of driving the car, but to go beyond that and really define what the car is - beyond those empirical things - is what I want to see more of; though he touched on the unique factor of the car briefly in the beginning of the video. But, I am probably just being over analytical and pedantic lol.
@@METAx55 As a newer subscriber, I'm not used to the abrupt endings in the older videos. So glad there's the "Final Thoughts" for everything now.
With regard to the fake shifting CVTs, THANK YOU! Why? Adding complications and lose the advantage of CVT, and most of the time you can't turn off the fake shifting.
As for the inconsistency I believe it's the same way newer Subarus are. With light throttle it acts like CVT, with moderate to heavy throttle it fake shifts, however if you floor it, it'll revert back to CVT to give the best acceleration.
finally a REAL car reviewer . at soon as i saw you guys putting cars up in the lift .. i subscribe !!
I hate car reviews that are over seven minutes long: gimme the goods, quick editing, done and I'm on my way.
That being said your reviews are the only ones I'll watch. Something about that casual pace that I hate everywhere else (yes, I'm looking at you The Fast Lane Cars!) just makes sense here. Even the bad jokes are better than Roman and Nathan's from FLC. I guess it just must be the relative, informative insights. Oh, and the hoist! Don't know your names yet, sorry, but damn good feature I've never seen anywhere else, Buddy in the shop is awesome.
Keep it up the dead pan goodness, you guys are really, really good. Thanks for not being the cookie cutter review channel
Hey savage geese!!! I test drove a 2019 maxima platinum with the peanut butter interior but my gawd these seats are amazing!!!!!! And super comfortable And the car overall was super super nice! I’m impressed by maxima and I can see why it’s in its 8th generation!! Also it has rear heat seaters.
When you floor it all the way, the CVT will keep the engine in the power band, when it senses that you no longer need the full engine load, it will do the fake gear shift.
Agree with a previous comment,I believe you are one of the better reviewers. Very thorough. When I want numerical test results,I'll look elsewhere! Nice job!
Bought one and like it. One thing to keep in mind is that the SR ride is not for everyone. You'll feel every bump on the road. The Bose sound system is lacking as well.
I can't say too much more to what's already been said but you are a good reviewer what I really enjoy is you taking it to the mechanic and he was honest as hell you always want to know what a mechanic thinks about a car I really enjoyed you speaking about the features
They need to lose the Sport Car catch line.. they arent fooling anyone. The design is growing on me when I first saw it I thought it was ugly.
Another great review.
This car would sell like crazy with a zf in it.
I’ve been driving a 2017 maxima since new. I’ve driven loads and loads of other cars, new bmw m models, pretty much everything (I work at a dealer) and I just can’t find another car that would be worth spending money on for everyday driving.
Jack of all trades, master of none, but better than master of one. This car does every thing at 75%, and I don’t know any other car that can quite touch it in that, especially with low mileage models being under 20k now. I think I’ll buy another one when mine goes out 😂
I must add, the seat ergonomics on long road trips are better than anything I’ve ever driven. Better than bmw, better than Mercedes. I’ve never driven a rolls Royce, but I imagine that would be better.
Kudos to the port injection!
Mark was in my head during this whole review! We bought my wife a 16 SR, and hes right! Its fast as shit handles like its on rails and that VQ engine? The best ever made in my opinion!👍
"The CVT is not that bad." Well that aged well didn't it? I do miss the old style reviews like this. They were a LOT more honest than what you do now.
6:26 still cant believe fix-a-flat is advertised as TPMS safe. Anybody ever see the port hole on TPMS sensors?...its just 1 little pinhole.
this car is beautiful and different, if only it had any other kind of transmission other than a cvt and awd
The power delivery of the cvt is excellent...AWD would be perfect on this though!
Good review. Still not sure I'd want a 300 hp FWD "sports sedan." Is there pronounced torque steer and excessive understeer?
+Isaac MacDonald On the street the TQ steer in straight line is minimal as is understeer. That may change in summer when tires overheat. I felt tugging more in turning transitions on power, but again nothing absurd. Far less than expected.
love my 17 maxima, and love the CVT as well, esp on the SR model. those knocking the CVT in the new maxima just do not know.
This is the best car review I've found. Thank you!
Thanks glad you found value in it.
my friends that are used to driving garbage chevorlets end up loving nissans.
my friends that are used to driving reliable toyota, honda, mazda, and subaru’s don’t prefer nissan.
My one question that I guess will be answered over the years is are cvts becoming more reliable? I've read and herd from mechanics the story's of having to replace the whole unit since you cannot fix them and with the older units them failing after a short period of time again...I've drove a corrola with a cvt and it wasn't bad I like the smoothness but unless the newer units are more reliable I'll be staying away from them
Compare to sonata N line please! Which drives better? Which is the overall better package?
You are so right, this car would be epic with a 6 speed manual and for me, a rear spoiler of some sort to give it a bit more of an aggressive look. I have so many people tell me to buy one to go with my GTR but I just can't for some reason, just not me.
Acc0rd79 I’ve watched your vids for years
i look one out for a test drive. very impressed. a quick comfortable car with great fuel economy for what is advertising to be. (a sports car) i turned away from it because of the cvt. not a fan of cvt's. later i read somewhere that Nissan's cvt where giving out after warrenty was out. not to mention that people looking for something sporty are not looking at cvt's, so from what i have seen resale has not been the greatest.
NISSAN DROP THE CVT!!
God I wish that class action lawsuit went somewhere, was trying to get my Altima declared as a rebuild as I had pretty much turned it into a project
car for shits and giggles.
Honestly an aftermarket sway-bar and some new end-links goes a long way with the stock suspension in that car.
really great reviews on your channel and awesome cinematography!
I personally love the new maxima
try the new WRX. that is a surprisingly good CVT. wasted though because lets face it, they wont sell many of them. most people with go with the manual
No I think its a much closer gap than you think. Every time I go to a car show around here and even cars and coffee I see at least one WRX with CVT out of maybe 2 or 3 there. One guy that does SCCA racing autocrosses a CVT WRX and gets faster times because he doesn't have to shift thus focuses more on driving. I believe he made it to some national level competition...
+Justin Kelly Agree
110PSI?! I freaked out when I had a car come in with about 79PSI in all 4 tires with dry rotting sidewalls. The feeling was like putting your face next to a time bomb.
110psi in a S10 Blazer with 44psi max tires.
rockervdrive betcha that 110psi guy was a cyclist. road bikes take that much.
DigitalYojimbo or semi trucks
Glad you liked it. While I don't like Nissan's exterior design language, the rest of the car seems pretty great for the intended audience. I have owned 3 Maximas in my teenage years due to insurance reasons I was stuck with 4-door cars for a while. I had a 89, 92 and a 99. They were all great for what they were. While I never bought I to the 4dsc thing, it was far more engaging to drive than its competitors, so I guess there's that.
I really hate cvt's, and am sorry they have eliminated other offerings. Hell I had a 5spd in one of my old Maximas, and loved that car. That said, I see this as the best choice of the non-driver sedans, as opposed to a wannabe sports sedan. In that regard, since dynamics aren't as important as comfort and ergonomics, it seems ace.
+Ndogg550 Damn 3 Maximas! I would take a 5sd manual in the car, hell even a 4pd at this point.
+savagegeese all three were the Nissan 300zx (bottom end) based 3.0l - not as powerful as the Renault 3.5 but such a cooler motor. Reminds me of the Honda v6's. I had a hand me down 89 from my parents when I turned 16, then sold it to buy a 300zx a couple years later. Once I realized I couldn't afford insurance on a RWD sports car I bought a better version of my last maxima - that was the 5spd SE one. It was honestly faster than my fr-s in a straight line. It started falling apart after beating on it for a couple years. I still couldn't afford to own a ZX so I bought a 99 maxima. It got tboned and then I started buying random piles after that.
5:39 "TPMS : Junk".. why do people say it's junk? Mine has always worked fine and has saved my ass MANY times.
+polaris911 Because its mandated and costs more money to repair and replace
Also prone to malfunction/break when during tire changes, or exposed to salt and winters.
it sims gear shifts when u put it into sport
The simulated shifts do not happen at WOT but only during throttle applications near WOT. The reason is because the car is the fastest when it's not simulating gears.
I subscribed, great videos ....you touch on many key points that most others miss. Thank you.
The best part of the Altima CVT is flooring it, then waiting for the CVT to spin up, before it finally takes off. You can almost feel the belt moving from the economy band to the power band. Compared to a Camry Hybrid, the 2.5L is underwhelming, especially up hills.
And the CVT belt breaks every 90,000 miles, have fun with those repairs.
My maxima’s cvt went 150k before going into limp mode and the belt was still intact. Also when you floor it at speed, it instantly jumps to a different ratio almost feeling like a regular auto. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
It's not inconsistent your foot is just being inconsistent on the accelerator. It uses very sensitive inputs but it also takes into account if you're turning or not.
*The peak Torque is at 4,250RPMs* you shouldn't be holding the RPMs at 6k. Learn how to drive a CVT.
When you are actively using the accelerator and not just holding it to the floor you will get better performance out of the CVT and more consistent use.
The reason cvts fake shift when you hold the gas to the floors because the engineer's program that in when they think the user is stupid. The accelerator on CVT equipped vehicle does not control so much acceleration/speed, but the desired RPM output. It doesn't just make you go faster, it lets you set the output from the engine directly which then affects your speed.
*Try keeping the RPMs at Peak torque output while Feathering/modulating the accelerator* to keep it in that area as the vehicle goes through turns or comes under load. It's like a game, keep the needle between 4250-4500 RPMs.
sorry bout the late comment but the inconsistency is the kickdown switch in the gas pedal, if u hit the switch it does fake changes, if you dont it drones at 6500, i own a 2007 altima that has that.
This had so much potential, imagine if Nissan really did make this a "4 Door Sports Car"with things like an LSD, manual transmission, and maybe AWD.
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Yaaass, finally a long video!
+Something Witty
Glad you liked the length!
I have an appointment to test drive one in a couple of days.....I hope I can keep a poker face and get a really good deal, but the truth is I am already SOLD on this car! I've had a Sentra with CVT since 2007 and have never had a problem with it, I love the reliability of the Nissan brand, and that's why I'm coming back for the Maxima. I love the concept of a luxury sports car, I think it will be fun to drive. There was one on the road I front of me today, and the car just commands attention! I am a female by the way....not that it matters, but I appreciate a beautiful car, and this is it!
+suz702 No doubt you will likely love it coming from Nissans. Keep a straight face and tell them its a horrible car and you would like it for free. (Love to see their faces)
Good idea, but I am not that good of a bullshitter...lol!
is rusting still an issue ..... has Nissan addressed this ???
Dennis Baril 9:20
This was the oddest car review I’ve ever seen. I loved it.
What could go wrong 300 hp front wheel drive....and a CVT 😂
Its alot worse with rear wheel drive
@@alphatrion100 real wheel drive is not safe on bad weather
Red Star you have to have some experience and winter tires, all though there is something to be said about other drives who pull up a inch from your bumper
i founds out when you break traction the car doesn't fake shift if you hold the pedal to the ground