A7IV vs A7C: A Very Clear Winner.
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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Camera: Sony A7IV
Other Main Camera: Sony A7RIV
Vlogging camera: Sony A7C
Favorite Lens: Sony 50mm G Master
Other Lenses: Tamron 70-180mm 2.8, 28-75mm 2.8,
Vlogging lens: Sony 20mm 1.8 G
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A thorough, yet concise, comparison. Anyone who might’ve been deciding between the two cameras definitely benefited from this video.
You described almost perfectly how I feel about my A7C and A7 IV.😊
100% agree on them not being comparable! Both are great but both have their place. That a7iv though…
Right? Inevitably I'm gonna get a bunch of people who own the A7C or people who can't afford the A7IV in the comments telling me that the A7IV isn't worth it. But until they use it . . .
Also, thanks for watching my boy. ✌🏾✌🏾
@@aboynamedjamil it never fails, people struggle to look at things objectively instead of subjectively. Gotta keep your feels out of it and appreciate things for what they are. A7c fits amazingly in my tank bag, but if I’m not running aperture ring lenses and am shooting manual the a7c always takes me a second because of the abnormal dials. If it was all I had ever shot on and all I’d ever known…wouldn’t even be an issue
@@adventureswithvs6461 EXACTLY!!!
I was strickly an A7 IV owner, but was pining for the A7C(original)…The prices got too attractive with the release of the new A7C ii and A7CR and I bit the apple last month and got myself the original A7C. I love it. It is my EDC, going with me places I wouldn’t take my A7 IV. I shoot every day with my A7C. My A7 Iv is still my first love and go to for all those reasons you mentioned, 33MP, the buttons, the dials, the grip, the EVF, the new menu system, the joystick, the rock solid active video stabilization. I love shooting with the A7 IV and it is a remarkable machine. I’m fine with the view finder of my A7C as I use jt and the LCD 50/50 to compose shots, so that isn’t much of a compromise for me. The biggest trade I had to live with on my A7C is that it does not have active video stabilization like my A7 IV. This really makes me not want to shoot hand held video with it, (must use a gimbal for walking video). Of course I wish I had all the buttons of my A7 IV and the joystick, but I can use the custom function menu and I am trading these nice features for the A7C’s small size.
Does the touch to auto focus work better on the IV? Somebody said it was kind of laggy on the a7C and that would honestly be a big reason for me to make the upgrade.
Now I just need to find out what lens I need for shooting video. I’m thinking about the 35 mm because I want something close to what my iPhone looks like. But I’m not sure if I need to get the Sony GM or just the 1.8.
The touch to focus is MILES better on the A7IV. Like, not in the same league. So yea if that's important to you, definitely go with the A7IV.
You absolutely don't need the GM! The 1.8 is a fantastic 35mm and the A7IV sensor will handle the bulk of the load if you need to shoot in low light with that dual base iso. Best thing is that you should be able to find the 35mm 1.8 used for a great price. Hope this helps! Thanks for watching. ✌🏾
@@aboynamedjamil Damnnn yeah wow that’s good to know then. Maybe I do need the a7iv in that case.
My guy I’ve gone from looking at the zve1 to the zve10 in December tk looking at A7C all Jan and now today I’m looking at a7iv good damn lol. What am I getting into.
Is the a7siii worth it? Or I don’t really need anything fancy for photography I just need something good for videos and I plan on continuing this journey so it wouldn’t be a bad investment. Then again, I guess I could just always switch it up in a year or two and take it one thing at a time.
How does Sony compare to canon and Nikon? It’s not overpriced or anything is it? I think maybe Sony is all about auto focus and color accuracy? Idk. Hard to think that there are so many details to all of this that I have spent two months and I have only been looking at one brand.
The A7C is not ideal for professionals as it only has one single card slot. A7IV is missing 4K 120 so for some slow mo situations, 1080p 120 is still used though its costing almost a $1000 more than the A7C. A7SIII is great but FAR too expensive. I'll jump on Sony once they offer the next iteration.
Lol.
I’m a professional and I use an a7c with an external recorder. If you can’t afford any of the “professional” Sony cameras then you’re not actually a professional and should stick to the consumer models anyway
This is the one!!! Thanks for this comment!
@@shannell5948 Are you sure you're a professional? In this mirrorless market, he has other much more viable options, at the same price range of the A7C with dual SD slots.
@@camarozl1951 lol yeah dude, I am. People forget not everyone needs 10 bit or the latest IBIS. The a7c works for me because in my business, I’m always in a controlled lighting environment and always on a tripod. I record redundantly both in-camera and and on my ninja V recorder. I chose the a7c because it’s the least expensive camera that fits my needs - and my hands. Why spend more money on stuff I don’t intend to use in the next few years? Just in case? Bragging rights? Lol.
EDIT: I’m kicking myself in the ass because I misread your comment and didn’t respond with an answer that made sense. I never actually recommended the a7c to that guy. I’m just reminding him that he doesn’t have a job that would require something more powerful.
I am a petit woman with very little physical strength and I am afraid of the weight of the A7IV. So, I wanted to know if there was some reason to choose the A7IV over the A7C that would justify choosing the A7IV. I think the A7C would be easier for me to handle...a pity because the A7IV looks amazing. I wish I was physically stronger.
Get the A7C Mark II. You get all of things you get in the A7IV in the body of the A7C. The only drawback (for me) is the single card slot. Hope this helps. Thank you for watching. ✌🏾
Why are your highlights so blown out? I currently use iPhone. I’m new to videography and stuff so I’m curious. It looks really bad in the background. Would this have been better on a a7siii?
Great question! My highlights are blown out because I filmed this at noon. And to expose properly for the background I would have had to bring something to light my face. And for a youtube video where the info being given was the focus, it wasnt important to me at the time. No, the A7SIII would not have been better. This is a situation where perfection would have killed progress and I chose progress.
@@aboynamedjamil That might be a plus for smartphones and computational photography. Maybe not in this instance but I have to wonder if smartphones do a better job of that. I know it can seem silly to compare smartphones with cameras but these days esp with my type of content you gotta keep all factors in mind when choosing your tool. I don’t like editing much in post. But. I do need control over that aperture I think which you CANT get in a smartphone
its 600 bucks more-- save a 1 or 2 more paychecks---
I currently have an a6000, and regardless of the size/quality, the placement of the viewfinder (like the A7C) makes it much easier for me to use comfortably because I am very left-eye dominant. Ergos aren't a huge deal for me. I have dainty hands, I'm used to a small camera, and actually prefer it to be as small as possible for packing/travel, but the 24MP resolution is just not enough for the kind of results I'm looking for. That's my biggest drawback to the A7C. Would really like dual card slots, but if they dropped an A7C II that just had the same sensor as the A7 IV, that would be my clear choice, and something I'll continue hoping for. But as that's not currently an option, this is still a difficult decision. Higher res and dual cards vs. smaller, cheaper, and side EVF.
i'm hobbyist who doesn't shoot videos, only photos of my travels i think a7c is the way to go for me
I agree with you! Thanks for watching.
But the A7C is cute
It really is. It's my favorite camera! Lol 🤣🤣🤣
@@aboynamedjamil It makes it REALLY hard to opt for the a7iv. I even just imagine myself taking it to my grandmas at Christmas. And just looking at it and loving the way it looks. I can just imagine setting it down on the couch and stuff. I don’t feel that way about the a7iv but really maybe that doesn’t matter once you keep it in the studio room on a tripod and you just use it for your content. It just doesn’t seem as cool if I were to take it outside and start taking pictures of random cats and stuff.
Straight to the point. I appreciate that. Great review! Please keep them coming.
Great your video!!! but I still don't know if I should take the a7IV I already have the a7c for more than a year I love it but I use a lot of heavy Lens like the tamron 35/150 !!! I was thinking above all of switching to the a7IV for the ergonomics, the grip more suited to large lenses, the 1/8000, and the 33mega pixels… do you think it's worth switching man ?
Yes I do think it's worth switching. The A7IV is a better camera. Overall. Especially if you're gonna be using those heavy lenses.
@@aboynamedjamil Thanks for your answer man!!!!
You seem conflicted, Jamil Personally, I adore my A7C and very much look forward to seeing what improvements will be made in the next version. For me, it has ideal ergonomics for my smaller hands.
Lol. No! I promise I love it.
Great review thanks. No bullshit and to the point. Nice. Think I'll go for the A7iv. The A7c's poor viewfinder is a big deal for me. The A7iv is worth the slightly bigger size in my opinion. But it's not like the A7iv is a big camera and it's only around 150grams heavier!
Thanks for the video! I believe that house at the beginning is the Thomas House by Frank Lloyd Wright in Oak Park IL. Love it!
Oh!!! Thats awesome bro! Thanks for that bit of info and thanks for watching!! You local?
@@aboynamedjamil Not anymore, but I grew up around there a long time ago. I always loved all the FLW houses in Oak Park & River Forest. Chicago has some spectacular architecture.
Thank you for your honesty. When you mentioned the quality of life I was sold.
Excellent presentation!
Honest review mate! Much appreciated. Thorough, concise and genuine. No gimmicks, no wait for the end, keep watching this video etc etc. Nice! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 watched till the end actually 😂
One tip though, maybe do more of on screen pros and cons or lists, just helps alot better to understand and make points of what you are saying. Cheers!
Man, I like the idea of the A7IV but I’m not sure ergonomics alone can be enough to spend so much money on these high end full frame cameras. Plus, if you use the custom modes, it’s pretty darn easy to switch from video to photo. I’m even able to make it work good with my old ass a6300 😆. And I’d be willing to bet most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference if shown side by side images.
Thanks for watching. ✌🏾
@@aboynamedjamil no problem! It’s actually funny I’ve been thinking about the A7IV since Sony won’t come out with a high end apsc camera…
@@dericsanchez4081 what would you consider high end in the apsc camera space? And what would you be willing to pay for it? The A6600 was $1600 body only for comparison. That already seems like a lot to me for a apsc camera.
@@aboynamedjamil I agree that is pricey for the 6600. I think if the camera had 4k 60 no crop, and 10 bit, I’d be willing to pay around $1700 - $1800 I think.
@@dericsanchez4081 the camera you are describing though is the a7siii and it’s arguably one of the best video cameras on the market, until you get to actual cinema cameras like the fx6. Even then, you aren’t really missing much with the a7siii and it’s $3500.
Many good thoughts! If I may add something: The smaller form factor of the A7C paired with something like the 55 1.8 has the benefit of not looking all that expensive.
Thank you for watching. Also thank you for your comment.
Great video, I’ve been debating on the two for my channel from upgrading from Sony ZV-1
The ZV-E10 is also a good option if you're not ready to pay full frame prices. Also there has been a lot of new, affordable apsc lens releases. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching. ✌🏾
thanks very much for putting the answer at the start and recommending the Rokinon lens for travel
A7 IV for sure. Maybe A7C II in future, but today (08/24/2022), A7 IV!!!
Facts!
Excellent review. Just discovered your Channel. Liked and followed. Thanks.
I appreciate you watching and following! ✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾
Thoughts on buying A7IV w/kit vs A7c w/tamron 28-75g2?
Buy the A7IV with the Tamron v1
What kind of lens should I get for my type of videos? I’m thinking 35mm 1.4 gm but people say it’s not good for video. However, my videos are stationary, so I don’t know if I would have anything to be afraid of. But I’m still looking at the 35mm 1.8. They say it has a better minimum focus distance. But then again, none of those are better than my iPhone because the iPhone crops in a little bit when you switch to video. So I am super used to being able to hold my products really close to the lens on my iPhone
Dang I’m going to need a better tripod and mount for this heavy thing no matter what camera and lens I end up going with.
Good thing with the iPhone, all I have to do is just pop it onto the little clamp whenever I need to use it. It’s super simple. For me it’s really hard to justify leaving my iPhone but there are benefits and I need to be able to change the aperture
Ok, let me say this; inevitably as your channel grows so too will the production of it. Using your iphone works for you now because you've put the time in to learn to use it. The same thing will happen with any camera that you change to. But the change WILL come.
Concerning the GM. You don't need it. I just watched your latest unboxing video and the 1.8 will work perfectly with what you do.
Also, maturity is investing in a good tripod. You're gonna have to eventually.
And listen, the good news is that if you buy all this stuff and you dont like it, you can just return it within 30 days if you buy it from Amazon!
@@aboynamedjamil Thanks for checking it out to give me a specific answer. Honestly, as far as getting used to the iPhone, not really. In fact, I thought it was a flaw that I couldn’t get objects close enough to the camera lol. So it looks like with a different lens and a new camera, I’m going to have to hold objects even farther away. Pros and cons. We’ve made these smart phone cameras, so good that you really have to weigh the pros and cons.
But again, the benefit to my situation is you have to consider the material. Which a lot of the people in these comments are not. They just want to know what camera is better lol. But it’s not always that simple! I’m looking at the tap to focus. Because right now that’s how I operate the iPhone. I am constantly tapping on the controller or the product. But I have heard on the a7C it’s really laggy when you tap to focus. Hopefully that’s a little better on a7iv.
Is 35mm a good one to look at? The reason why I was looking at this is because I think the iPhone camera is naturally a 28mm equivalent, and video crops in automatically so I assume it’s somewhere near 38mm so I was trying to get something comparable. That way I don’t have to change my set up or anything my table and all of that plus I don’t want something to why because I think that would destroy the products? But I do want something wide just seem a little modern. But for some reason, I don’t see a lot of people reviewing video with the 35mm so I hope I’m not making a bad decision? I wanted the GM because it seems with all the videos I’ve seen, it has superior sharpness and quality. And I’m picky.
Honestly, I think the shots with my iPhone look so amazing, I want to make sure I got a good lens because I don’t want it to seem like a downgrade, or even to seem like the same thing. Photographers might notice the difference, but to the normal eye, I have to be honest a lot of the shots I have seen with A7C I don’t really look much different or better than a smart phone. Maybe the blacks are deeper and stuff? That would be nice because I think my iPhone does struggle with black controllers. If you look at my most recent video, I had to actually cut out a lot of the content with the black controller because I feel like it was just washed out and not focused very well but that could be because of the dark brown table behind it. I’m not sure.
Thank you so much for the advice. I can tell you’re really experienced and knowledgeable so it’s a big help.
So true I could always do a return. But honestly 30 days is never long enough for me lol but I do try to remind myself of that! Or even if I decide to purchase locally from Best Buy or something. But I just went on eBay and did a bid for a7iv.
Think Media got me wanting the a7siii lol. And I have the money but I’m trying to not burn through everything until I get more income from content and grow a bit. Good news is the lenses will carry over I think.
As far as growing with the channel, yeah man I’m almost 4 years into this. And I feel like people don’t take me seriously because I feel like I don’t have as good image quality but that could be all in my head. It will definitely be nice to use this camera for my life streams as well. Just hope it doesn’t overheat after streaming for 10 hours.
@@aboynamedjamil as far as learning to use the iPhone, there’s no learning to it my guy. That’s what’s great and that’s why I use it. You put it on the clamp and you press record. I got iPhone, because transferring the files to my computer is the touch of a button. It uses airdrop and it’s there over the air. Some thing about me, I have some type of weird anxiety so every extra step or physical movement in the process can add up and overwhelm me. Kind of like if I have a stream the next day, I will put the microphone in the room the night before, because even though that takes 10 seconds to do, if I have to do that on the day that I stream, it just adds to the anxiety. So I’m always trying to take steps out of my processes.
The way you can edit and post clips from your phone it’s just amazing. But hey maybe with an SD card it’s even faster.
And since it’s not my phone, I actually don’t even have to ever take it off the tripod if I don’t want to. So I guess that’s a plus!
Ok. Sounds like you got it figured out. Good luck! ✌🏾
@@aboynamedjamil Absolutely not lol but thanks for the advice! I use voice dictation to text so I know it can be a lot.
Which cam did you use for filming this video?
A7RIV. ✌🏾
well explained in every angle
I watched a lot of video where people said that those 2 camera pretty much the same, so I went and bought a7C... only to get disappointed and return it few weeks later. And I'm a sony shooter for 8 years, I own multiple sony cameras and never return any of them. But no matter how much I tried to like A7c, the image quality, auto-focus, sharpness, dynamic range, low light etc etc just couldn't stand against any of my old camera. I shoot macro, portrait, wide angle etc, using same lenses just switching bodies and images in my older camera all came out way better and a7C. So now I'm hesitant to buy a7 IV - for the reason that review say its very similar and I don't want another disappointment.
I don't believe you. But thank you so much for watching.
@@aboynamedjamil Its up to you to believe me or not, I believe my eyes and pictures that I took.. And oh yeah I forgot to mention that a7C also has tons of Chromatic Aberration, compare to other camera. And shooting macro with it was basically impossible because of ghosting (YOu can say its lense, but I did try it on different body and didn't get nearly as much)
You're wrong. Chromatic aberration is an optical failure. Not a sensor issue. Instead of investing in a new camera body, I suggest you invest in better glass. Again, thank you for watching. I really appreciate it.
@@aboynamedjamil Agree. Anyone who can't get top notch images from the a7c isn't shooting correctly. t ain't the camera. That would be like saying the same for the most popular and most used mirrorless in history used by more pro's the Sony a7iii. It ain't the camera.
Great Video! I am about to return my A7C and get an A7IV after watching this
For real!? Damn, maybe I should think about those affiliate links! 🤔.
JK thanks for watching man, happy shooting! ✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾