The Abuse Needs to Stop! | Hunting For Guitars on eBay
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These guitar hunting videos are so fun to watch never stop
I think you really need to do a Heritage guitar just to check out the feel and the quality control and all of that stuff. Because you know the Gibsons so intimately you’re in a position to have an educated opinion.
Right, Heritage are better.
I have owned a heritage for years and they are as good or better than Gibson. I've been playing for forty years. The company was sold a few years ago so I can't attest to their quality now but before that their great. Under a lawsuit with Gibson they had to use 300k volume pots which load down the humbuckers not allowing that desired growl. I put 1megaohm volume pots in mine and it made the Schaller pups sing
I own a heritage as well.ive owned several Gibson’s and the heritage beats them hands down
Please bring brand awareness
I support this as well, would love to see a comparison of QC as well as the sounds. Also they go for far cheaper on reverb rather than ebay so maybe he will see one on there that is a better value
Thanks for the heads up on that SG-1 was bidding on it but figured it wasn't worth too much glad to hear that was correct
I’m not a Gibson guy, but, I could listen to you talk about them for a long time! A regular fount of knowledge. If I ever decide to get a Gibson, I’m coming to you!
Looking at these videos help me learn about vintage guitars and now when ever I see a 1972 les Paul custom I can’t stop playing 😫
2:12 Ebay will automatically add the offer to ANY listing unless you know to uncheck it. Now when I see it on a new auction I assume they don't mean for the offers to be up.
Nice
Thanks for taking me, Guitar shopping again. There really is some overpriced rubbish out there, that’s for sure.
in my country on auction portal we have many guitars named "Ibanez name of it (Gibson Fender PRS Jackson and other brands)
As a mandolin player, I would love that Gibson F5 with Ricky Scaggs signature right where it is; big and bold on the back. Ricky is a mandolin God and played with Bill Monroe since he was a kid.
I've never been a fan of the Heritage style with their LP guitars But I love, love that triple pickup, double cutaway matched with the Heritage headstock shape. I think that's a real nice bit of design
But the absence of dots or other inlays on the fretboard is a deal breaker for me.
I feel the same way about the Heritage guitar head stock. It is actually based on a style Gibson used at one time. Something about a diminishing head stock doesn't really sit right with me. I played one at the local shop it was an excellent instrument. If you haven't yet you owe it to yourself to try one out.
More of these hunting videos!! Very interesting to know what’s going on
I love these new videos too. The goodwill stuff is pretty crazy...
I remember reading that the original map guitar in the ads was not a working guitar, just a mock up for the ad campaign
I also had a 15-watt Spider IV about 7 years ago. I only got rid of it because I needed to get an amplifier that was battery powered. I miss it.
I really wanna hear what you think about the 2000s era Korean made Ibanez Artist with set necks. I really think they compare well with the Gibson DC and some have nice flametops.
Back when we had a vintage store that also became a Gibson dealer towards the end we had heard of a whole semi truck of cases being stolen. I could imagine the bogus instruments built over there and shipped here to be put in a real case. Seems to be a role of the dice with eBay as I had a 5e3 clone that I built and listed clearly as a clone... I used the name Fender only to describe the circuit there was no mistaking it but they pulled me. I was also forced to return a scammers money. He waited till the last day then made a complaint about the speakers being torn wreckage of twisted metal. They were Electro voice cast frame speakers. We had already talked and he was pleased with them but he got them to keep on me to return his money and he never returned my speakers. Oh yeah the capper... he told my lady FU when she inquired and she was extremely polite. I don't worry about it things come back to people like that, oftentimes so much worse that I sometimes feel bad for them.
Go for the heritage guitars.looking forward for some reveiws
The Heritage had an interesting ES style guitar, all natural maple, and even the plastics were made out of maple. Never could afford it, but it was a very good looking guitar.
Heritage guitars are great, but I’m shocked they have gone so long without addressing the headstock. I have grown to like them but so many people can’t even look at them.
They’re more real than a modern standard though. It’s literally the Kalamazoo factory
Dylan Zrim But what does that have to do with the headstock?
The maestro by Gibson post reminded me of alot of local posts where people would post a 200$ "fender strat" and then say at the very bottom of the description that its a Squier by fender.
Or when they hide the squier headstock from view until the last photo...
Had one of those "Supreme" cases and the black dye destroyed the finish on a Alpine White colored Supreme and had to send the guitar back to Gibson under warranty for a replacement! They replaced the LP and sent a Supreme case with the "white plush" interior, a MUCH BETTER CASE! I would throw everyone one of those black interior ones in a burn pile! They will ruin your guitars finish ......fair warning.
I've owned several gibson les pauls and there was only one i can say was worth the money. It was a standard faded in yellow burst that blew my mind. The rest were very dissapointing...
I also own a couple of chibsons that i swapped electronics and set up myself that im very happy with.
I own 3 top tier Epiphone customs from the last 4 years (2nd version Iommi SG, Brent Hinds V, and a brand new Prophecy Les Paul). All of them are perfect in terms of fit and finish, and all came with premium pups (Iommi has Gibson USA Iommi pups). The setup on the LP was just NOT a setup, but easy fix. Got all three at 15-18% and I'm all in for less than the current price of a Gibson LP standard, including the cases I bought. Fully stoked and laughing every time I (very frequently) see people with obvious QC issues on their Gibsons. I bet a perfect Gibson LP setup properly would be awesome, just not worth it when I can have 3 killer guitars instead.
I like these videos. Keep doing them.
USA is a small town in China pronounced "Ooosa" where they make all these gee-tahs. I'm kidding of course- there's only 2 Os in Oosa :D
See the video for "The Big Goodbye" by Great White. Mark Kendall plays a natural finish Gibson US map guitar.
Did Gibson ever do any weird things with variations in standard guitars in the line or were they always exactly the same from whatever model from the period they came from? I know I was reading the ESP forum and people were asking if guitars were real or fake and responses were declaring guitars definitely fake, but I don't think they know what they are talking about. I had a few ESP guitars from back in the 80s and they differed slightly from the catalog with things like a reverse headstock here, a different wood on the fretboard there and an additional pickup, etc. I know they were authentic because I bought them new from ESP dealers and they were not custom ordered and at that time no one was counterfeiting ESPs. The catalogs were lacking in much technical details and years later when I contacted ESP to find out what kind of wood was used in each model, they could only speculate and said that there were no remaining records from back at that time. I can't imagine Gibson would think their guitars would be so collectable and people would be so meticulous about the details, back in the early days. I used to replace the stock pickups all the time and when I got a 1981 Gibson Flying V, I immediately had to replace the badly cut bone nut and the bridge and then I put on Schaller machines and Dunlop straplocks because I noticed that's what the rockstars like Scorpions and Michael Schenker had done. That V is long gone, but I still have the original tuners in a box somewhere.
Love your show.
You need to llay a heritage. I hated them too based off looks but they play and feel and even sound much better than gibsons. I was blown away. Sold my custom for one
I didn't like the headstock shape on Heritage guitars either until i got a used one and i like to play it so much i don't pay attention to it anymore.I still think the open book looks better though.
Found a Map Guitar a local shop in Michigan. Huber and Breese has one, not sure if its for sale.
I heard that Rachael Rays husband John, lost an original '58 Flying V in the fire at their house a couple of weeks ago.
2:15 This is done much like a reserve auction is done except there is no automated way to know that magic number. In a reserve auction you could plug some crazy bid like $999,999,999 and probably find out what the reserve is (but then you would need to retract bid...) but in this bid/offer format the offer is essentially going to be the sellers "reserve" i.e. what they hope it will sell for. In the example guitar of $1499 if they offered $2500 the seller might end the auction immediately with a sell if that is how much they actually wanted.
Came across your theme song in a snippet of a andertons sound like limp bizkit video
Elyse Steinman from Raging Slab used to play a stars 7 stripes model
With that Joan Jet Melody Maker, I can say there’s now 3 Gibson models I’d own... 335, 339 and now Melody Maker.
Love yr show. Learn so much from yr vids - - but on the wrong guitars: sorry, i am a Fender man. . .owning 10, zero Gibson . . . (( so Fender Fridays are a must for me ! ! ))
Heritage Guitar Inc. is owned by Singapore based Bandlab Technologies, which makes Harmony and Tiesco products. Many of the long time Heritage employees were either fired or quit in 2018.
"Today we're going to do some hunting on ebay tonight." :-B
Me too!
Damn, beat me to it
Getting Spinal Tap vibes...
That is a custom made Heritage. Unique model. It has a 3 piece maple neck, see through headstock (no veneer), triple pickups, and custom wood package. Its a shame Trogly is a Heritage hater. Hate is a strong word, but he certainly doesn't show them any love.
So is Heritage a factory set up by ex Gibson employees and if so are they putting out guitars of similar quality, can they access timber of the quality that Gibson have tucked away in their shed maybe really old stuff kept for customs or special runs. Would like your opinion and your thoughts on what we should pay for a used heritage in good condition. If you have time just your opinion no need to research I can do that but you seem knowledgable and so that's why I am asking you. Cheers.
@@crestadude4139 one thing about Heritage is they do not retain the value. On their 150 and 535, I wouldn’t pay more than $1600 for a used one. You can find them for less, but used prices across the board, regardless of brand are going up.
You’ll find better flame tops on Standard models you’d pay a lot more for on a Gibson.
Oh, they diminished Michigan lake on first guitar, maybe, for sake of stiffness.
Take Care!
looking forward to the next video 👍
Does anybody know where I find a Joan Jett/Micheal Clifford guitar from stock now? I really like that guitar (and both players) and I found some of them on some auction sites, but they don't ship to my country.
Awesome guitars brother
I am one of the suckers that bought the Firebird X. I actually love it and I play it all the time. But I cannot ever recoup what I paid so I am a fool. The rechargeable batteries that came with it are shot. They last 20 minutes. Replacements are over &50 each. Do I dare invest more cash into this thing? Lol
What batteries does it use?
@@franciscofonseca7236 they're here:
www.tronicaltune.com/product/battery-pack-for-dusk-tiger-firebird-x-dark-fire/?v=3a52f3c22ed6
@@valuedhumanoid6574 One of the main things with Firebird X' is that they are now two steps back on battery development. They just wen't future proofed.
@@IrisGalaxis good idea and attitude to have.
Yo! This is random but I wanna hear your opinion: What is your opinion on epiphone customs? I'm not super well versed in guitars, but I'm having a hard time justifying spending over $1,000 on a gibson when I like the look of the Epiphone just as much.
At the 9:00 mark the headstock looks like it’s laminated. I know gibson has the wings on the headstock but it looks like 5 strips of wood. Is that right or common?
I know Matthias Jabs played a map guitar in Rock in Rio Brazil but it was Brazil shaped.
The schtars &schtripes are what I’m looking for ......but in another life
I didn't know that about mandolins either Austin
@Mike Pipitone I'm not sure what that has to do with my comment. I hope you find a way to relinquish the hate from your heart my friend. Good luck to you.
At some point Heritage have to recognize that people don't buy their products *literally* because they can't stand those headstocks. It seems like such a silly, small thing to standby. I really think that is the biggest barrier to entry for hundreds, if not thousands of people to try Heritage out. They're actually really great guitars, I own an h575, and I wish the market would adopt them more. Definitely a much more worthy company than Gibson, that's for sure!
Literally can't stand the headstocks on what? I'd just use a regular guitar stand, but a wall hanger would work fine too.
@@asw7696 I've had more than enough friends and seen all too often on online discussions with people saying that they would like to get into Heritage guitars but their headstock shape is too ugly for them to consider investing in one of their models. I get it, it's likely the most boring, unartistic headstock shape in all of guitar history, but ultimately the guitar is a tool and things like headstock shapes and logos really shouldn't be a bar to trying a new tool.
robotsongs : are heritage still producing? Thought they closed?
@@bobbillnolan7644 I don't know why you would think that. They've narrowed their product line, ramped-up production , and you can either buy directly from their site or from dealers. They don't have many dealers these days, but if you're near one, go ahead and try one out. They're fine instruments!
robotsongs : they’re a fine instrument, every 1 out of 10, or so, I’ve owned 4 Les Paul’s. They’ve been making them since the 50s and still can’t get the paint and binding right??? People like Tokai have obliterated them, quality wise
There are way too many scammers on e-bay and now even Reverb is polluted with them. You can't trust anybody. But Austin, you really owe it to yourself to try out a "The Heritage" H-150 Les Paul-ish guitars. They are truly wonderful!
Have you ever reviewed the Howard Roberts line of Gibsons?
Hey bud love your channel. Have you ever done a Corvette Gibson?
Gibson mandolins are very interesting.
Hey Trogly, my local shop has a Gibson with the word SECOND put onto the back of the headstock instead of a serial number. What's that all about and how does it affect the value of Gibson guitars on the 2nd hand market?
I remember an unscrupulous shop sold my boss and his wife an epiphone sg with second stamped on the back of the neck. It was for their son for Christmas. Turns out 2nds were broken or injured and fixed during the quality control process. They should be reduced price, not at brand new msrp. I dont think that's something the shop innocently overlooked. It was still a decent axe, but they got ripped off.
@@saltpeter7429 Well this one is second hand and vintage but I have no idea what Gibson guitars should go for and what a decent price is. I would link but I don't think the store has a site.
17k for a gift for his son....I've some how drawn a -30 in luck on my character creation....
There’s a 65 Sg on Craigslist here . 1600$ .
WISH I HAD YOUR EYE !!! AND KNOWLEDGE !!!
WHEN I MOVED, THE MOVING COMPANY (MAYFLOWER) ACTUALLY CUT THE BACK OF MY GIBSON CASE FOR A ‘61 RE-ISSUE SG !! I CALLED GIBSON TO TRY TO REPLACE IT ??
I WAS TOLD THE CASE IS SUPPLIED WITH THAT GUITAR ONLY ???
BLACK CASE WITH WHITE INTERIOR !
I saw a couple of Explorers on their from Russia but I'm skeptical because they costed around $700-$900.
@@auntjenifer7774 sorry to hear that. I bought one listing from Japan and it ended up being legit. I got me an Epiphone 1984 EX Explorer. I've had it setup twice and haven't had any of the techs tell me it seemed fishy or was fake so I consider that a win
Seymour Duncan's pickups are the real good enough for value more a Chibson?
On the China tip- I’ve even seen fake Grover’s out there , even fender branded bent steel saddles … counterfeits are endless. Might think- we’ll at least my chibson has good parts, nope, they really go the extra mile on the fakes lol
Sheriff Trogly 😂. I’m not a big fan of seeing Maestros and Epiphones when I’m looking for Gibson’s. But you never know, you may accidentally discover something cool! 😃
Most people who own guitars are not guitar experts, they do not know the ins and outs so they list them the best they can.
I had a heritage H150 it's a great guitar but unfortunately I found the neck was to skinny at the nut for me. Gibson LP's feel better to me imo.
so turns out someone bought that Les paul studio platinum and now I hate myself haha. Now I wait for another listing
Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!
Do a guitar review of the
Zach myers Prs Se semi hollow
It would be interesting
When you constantly shop for guitars "keyword abuse" can get annoying as things will pop into your search results that shouldn't be there! Please list responsibly.
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i've owned 3 Les Paul Juniors in my life. the first one was a 1955 single cut that i bought when i was 19 and i don't remember what i paid for it. the second one i bought was in 1994. it was a dead mint, collectors grade. this thing was never played. it had the original cardboard alligator case. i paid $500. i was recording an album at the time and quickly realized this thing was a dog, no wonder it was never played. it. it also had real freaky frets. i sold it to the producer for $900. the third was a 1959 double cut that was in very nice condition until i broke the neck. i paid $1000 and sold it for the same. that was 2006. most juniors then went for $1000 up to $3000 for a nice TV model. fast forward to 2011 and looking on eBay i see juniors and specials starting at 18 grand!! fucking nuts. there has never been a junior worth anywhere close to that. these days i see nice ones going for 6 or 10 grand, still way too much. what happened where suddenly they became so overpriced? if anyone should know it would be you.
Are those SG-1 guitars alright guitars? I absolutely love single pickup guitars and was gonna buy one but no documentation of them online really exist
They are for what they are, the pickups aren't great although Seymour does a hot replacement.
I had a 72 SG 1 exactly like that one, it was ok ($450 from GC 8 years ago), but had a number of details "off" for an SG. Weird blocky neck/body heel joint, reduced headstock angle (14 degrees instead of the standard 17 degree pitch), horns were barely contoured and body seemed crudely cut, ok action but thick neck profile, underpowered pickup (not the same mini hum they used on the Firebirds, very bland and low output.) Sold it within a few years (kept my 73 SG Standard instead), it was cool in a vintage student-model sort of way but not the best daily player.
For modern rock I'd recommend the SG-X models of the 90s (also called the All American Series SG 1 at one point), I had a stock 98 that was great, like the red burst one on this video. Came with a coil tapped 500t ceramic pickup that did great for me for rock and metal, high output. The coil tap wasn't especially useful (sounded too anemic and thin when split imho), had planned to convert it to a kill switch instead but had to sell when times got tough. Great guitar though, chunky 50s neck but not neck-heavy.
If someone is in the market for a affordable les paul studio with that 1980s type dot neck, check out JHS Vintage guitars in the UK, they have 2 or 3 models like that
I reckon there's a gap in the market for you to twitch stream your guitar hunting sessions and have some international with your audience. I know I'd tune in (so long as it wasn't in the middle of the night in the UK)
Sadly the timezone difference kinda screwed us for most American streams get on bout 3 or 4 in the morning or bout 11ish sat up till half 4 for a rocket launch stream just for the flight to be scrubbed kinda sucks
I've seen it several times on the local market where people are trying to sell an SG as a Les Paul. Long before the advent of internet in homes I read an article in a magazine that put up the argument that technically an SG is a Les Paul. Wish I could remember the writer and magazine. Maybe you can find out and do an episode on that
Originally the SG shape was an update to the Les Paul and was called the Les Paul, then in the early 60s Les retired on doctors orders and his contract with Gibson lapsed, and it became the SG. At this time Gibson wasn't making the single cut shape. Les' doctor then told him to go back to playing gigs so he un retired (apparently being retired was worse for him than spending all his time in clubs) this happened to be around the time of the British Blues Explosion and the single cut shape was ripe for a reissue, and Gibson and Les made a deal and the Les Paul returned.
Had Les not agreed to once again lend his name to the guitar Gibson would used the SG prefix in the same way that they use the ES prefix for semis.
My '61 'SG' IS a Les Paul. Says Les Paul Jr. right on the headstock.
I HATE when people call the original Jr. an SG, but I see it all the time.
I was asking if Austin the Les Paul expert could do a video or even a series to quell the myths and bring out the facts. If I go by what some say then the reissue is essentially a Les Paul. I know there was a second when the original was named for Les Paul but it was also called Standard Gibson from an article I read. Let's just leave it to Austin since he is the expert.
@@clarkbabin9799 Yeah, the reissue is definitely **not** a LP, nor should it be called a L, especially since LP himself made Gibson quit calling the double cutaways Les Pauls.. The originals, though, were marketed, labeled, and sold as Les Pauls, then changed to SGs after his displeasure at having the double cutaway with his name on it.
In my mind, the only double cutaways that can - and should - be called Les Pauls were made between '58-’63.
I’d buy a heritage if I had the money.
They come at pretty much the same price as Gibson's. The only thing I'm not a fan of about Heritage is the headstock shape. Gibson do it better.
serial number is not goofy on the 76 to me...it is altered.
I'd buy a new Gibson LP Std LONG before I'd pay $2250 for a Studio. I think most would. You can by a new $2k LP Classic and get a case to boot!
Hey trogly, how much do you think it would cost to get one of those swamp ash LP studios over to the UK? Love the show man 🤟
Would you please review the Eastman SB? It's their single cut series
Only if he buys one himself, they are know to give reviewers properly made and qc ones, but if you buy one yourself they are not great and have problems.
your videos used to have subtitles, they were very helpful for hearing impaired people. what happened?
I once had someone on eBay selling an epiphone les paul standard, worth about $300, for $1200 saying it has Gibson Strings. I Texted him and told him the strings cost like $5 and he Was like "no 1200 is good price les paul gibson strings". Instantly reported it
Do the tommy thayer epi!
Speaking of Rubbing somebody up the wrong way lol..
Trogly, how can you be such a huge Gibson fan and not be interested in checking out Heritage Guitars? Headstock and pickguard??? Really!! I get it's not the famous Gibson headstock, the other side of that is the line from nut to tuners is on a much better angle and does help quite a bit with tuning stability. As far as the pickguard, take it off. Will admit I was the same with that thinking, till having one, grew on me quickly and is much better quality that the LP.
Suggest going down the rabbit hole a bit and researching the history of Heritage Guitars. It's much more than the building, many of the machines used to build the old Les Pauls were left behind and still used today. In fact they still make the Guitars in pretty much the same way they did in the late 50's. The quality control seams to be much better than Gibson is across the board. May be a bit preachy here, call it a push to have a Trogly Heritage review.
Better yet, would love to have a Gibson Standard and a Heritage H-150 Blind faceoff, You playing both and see which you like playing better. Ha ha .
Ebay couldn't care less about keyword spamming. I actually got them to fix their reporting link just so I could send in daily reports on keyword spammers. All I ever got was lip service.
Yeah they don’t care at all. I’ve gotten ripped off a couple of times , not for much , but they couldn’t care less.
...and where is Alaska?
Firewood!
There is nothing worse than people who list Squires for sale as Fender and Epiphone's for sale as Gibson......what's next selling a Toyota as a Lexis?
8:02 I think that "binding" is just where the "luthier" scraped a bevel in the paint through to the wood underneath with a razor blade.
I guess anything Gibson.. even the strings increases its value now?.. Oh boy..
CAn you please do a review on the Gibson Corvus II the most disgusting guitar ever
Wheeeeee
can u do an episode about epiphone casino?
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1.3 k in 15 hours. You're tearing it up man
335 is super cool'
Never been this early
Aguante la guitarra perro
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but your tastes are seriously questionable Austin.
Both things are not true. This is a questionable comment.
right. That american guitar is a terrible waste of money for me.
COOL