What a GREAT Guitar Auction! | Guitar Hunting With Trogly @ Gardiner Houlgate Auction
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There is quite an impressive display of guitars coming up to the auction block tomorrow! Which was your favorite?
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Thank you for helping with information!! Watching this channel is almost like listening to those people talk about stocks, I recently bought my first Gibson with your help!
A VM Les Paul from your last video 🎸
I seriously will bid on that scotty moore guitar.
Btw duojet did come in a white sprake version in a few runs, get one of those and the conversation is about 500dollar.
Done often as a scam
These sales are quarterly and bidding is usually in person or phone/email - sale over two days. All the prices you quoted are 25% higher after charges.
They have the sold prices on the website if you're interested in finding out what they went for. The walnut strat went for £1650 but you'd have to add on the Buyer's Premium and all the additional surcharges for absentee or online bidding, plus packaging, shipping, export/import duty, sales taxes and CITES.
Trogly, man, I love your show, but in the last month you've hyped the fender fmt with spalted maple top, and now the auction where I was trying to sneakily get one after being gazumped in the last seconds repeatedly on ebay since your vid... Used prices definitely went up after you posted. I've been hunting this holy grail for six months+, so I cursed you this morning when I saw this upload. I got it though, and for a decent price as well. Hooray!
The Burns brand is famous for The Shadows and also for making some replicas of Brian May’s Red Special, which has Burns elements from the start. You overlooked a Vista Squier that is way underpriced.
You've never heard of 'Burns' or Hank Marvin-shame Sir, shame! Old Brit guys like me worship both!
I guess hes not as popular in America
Search UA-cam for Hank Marvin and the Shadows
For shame! He talks about Brian May all the time too.. Well everyone knows Brian had Burns Tri-sonic pickups in his Red Special. 🤦♂️
You should at least get a basic knowledge of more guitar makers. Burns were used by many well known players...and Brian May’s pickups were/are Burns Trisonics.
I only know of Hank Marvin, because he was such a hugh influence on Mark Knopfler. If The Trogmiester was more of a Strat guy, he might have heard of him, before now. I realize, here in the States, we don't get the mix of music that other countries get. It is a tad isolationist. It goes along with the fact, most people in this country, speak only one language and never make it, outside our borders.
I live in the UK and have been watching these guys for about 3 years. The estimates are reasonable but the good ones go for well above the estimated prices and by the time you add the 25% premium it's not so great.
There are deals to be had but the collectors market in the UK is strong.
Check out the sold prices in another video, it might be interesting to see, but don't forget to add that buyers premium.
As a fellow Brit , I couldn't have put it better 👍
Burns guitars are pretty rad, I used to have one of those marquees in white with a red tort guard, my old band was sponsored by them somehow when they attempted some revival of the brand a while back.
They can't charge VAT outside the Euro zone, so maybe there are some deals to be had!
But you are buying it in uk, not outside of it
@@tnikoli40 If shipped outside then not VAT.
Beat me to it
The VAT only applies to the buyer premium, not the guitar, and the bidding is done within UK so will apply. Total extra cost is 24%
@John Clark, I think you meant to say the EU, rather than the Eurozone. If you are buying from outside the EU then you will have to pay import duty, which is levied by the country of the buyer and varies depending on the type of goods and the country. Looks like they might also charge VAT on the buyer's premium, since that's a service charge and not a good, I guess.
that 1982 walnut strat is way too much of a deal-
that full mother of pearl stratocaster is just-
ABSURD
That's the Moto. Limited run and super cool.
Its actually called Mother of Toilet Seat, hence why Trogly called it MoTo, lol
People known to have played a Burns (if only briefly):
Elvis, Jimmy Page, Marc Bolan, Slade, Billy Bragg, Gaz Coombes!
Also add: Josh Homme, Troy Van Leeuwen, etc.. They both used a green Burns - Double Six on a bunch of QotSA songs, both studio & live on these last couple albums.
I noticed you scrolled past one of those First Act Custom Shop guitars. They're hard to come by but these things are GREAT. Ik that sounds insane but they're USA made by a group of Luthiers and really are top notch. They usually pull a pretty high price tag tho. If you ever get the chance you should definetely try to get one on the channel. Not alot of people know they even exist so I'm sure it would pull in some good views out of curiosity, plus there's tons of models they did. At least 50 floating around out there. They're all handcrafted as well. I was in a music shop in North Carolina last year that had one, a prototype from Brent Hinds from Mastodon that Brent had sold for $6k in 2018 on Reverb, I got to play it for about 5 mins and man... such a quality guitar esp the tone and way it played. Had Kent Armstrong custom hand wound pups too. Was dated to 2008. Such an unique instrument. Please try to get one eventually!
Thanks Trophy, the Burns "Bison" was a big model in the sixties,the one pictured was a Burns "Marvin" named after famed "Shadows" guitarist Hank Marvin.The "Shadows" switched from Fender to Burns guitars about 1964. (?) Both the "Bison",and the "Marvin" where made til about 1980.The company is under new ownership at this point.Looks like they are aiming at 2021 to be back in business.
I have bought from this auction house before. Once you add in the selling fees and delivery costs the price rockets up. Plus, non trade bidders bump the price up to above retail. When the auction is over check out the final price, add on the fees and delivery and then see how insane the prices are. No bargains to be found here.
Troggy is losing his mind & licking his chops at those guitars up for auction! 😊😊😊
Great video! Thank you for making it!
Hey Austin - am in the UK and have bought from these guys before (A Yamaha acoustic signed by Keith, Ronnie and Mick Taylor from the Stones!). The auctions are on monthly, and normally have a huge amount of guitars up for sale at reasonable deals. If there's anything you're interested in, I'm happy to bid for you and manage the shipping to the US. The auction's done for this month, but they come up regularly. Cheers
175 is a personal favorite of mine and so is steve howe
love this channel bro
Troglyyyyy love your show.. but really Burns doesn’t ring any bells?? Tri sonic burns pick ups were used on Brian May s red special 🙂
Keep the awesome stuff coming up! 🤙🏻
@Harry. B. Renner. jr. Only the modern Burns guitars. The original ones were made in the U.K..
Wish I'd kept my Black Bison.
Trogles is a Gibson expert so that's a bit out of his area.
@@GreenmanXIV that's a real cool guitar. Have a hardcover guitar book that features a wonderful photo of one, that's as close as I'll probably ever get.
my first guitar is a 1980's squier bullet! mine is just a shrunken down strat with only 2 knobs love that thing!
I have a 1964 Fender Mustang
It was given to me by my cousin Raymond Edward Slater Sr. in late May 2015
Even though he's no longer with us
I still have it as of now
Some really nice guitars there Austin that’s for sure, quite a few definitely worth reviewing.
Love the videos
Trogly,,,,Hank Marvin with his burns...... ( you couldn’t get Fenders in the UK back then) inspired a whole generation of guitar players over here in the UK , The shadows were like the Ventures to you guys, played lots of great instrumentals and were also Cliff Richards backing band (cliff was our version of Elvis) Hanks influence cannot be overstated,
Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!
Burns are amazing guitars! My Uncle won one from the back of a Kellogg's Corn Flakes box in 1966.
Hi Trogly, I’ve been to one of their guitar auctions, it is usually an in person auction. It’s an awesome experience. If you ever fancy a trip to the UK I’d recommend going to it, they usually do 1-3 guitar auctions a year and you can sometimes get a good deal. The burns are a British guitar brand, they declined when the import embargo from the US ended in the 60’s
Squire bullets were popular in the late 80's. A friend of mine had a red with white pickguard in 1988.
Gardiner Houlgate is my 'local' auction, still a 2 hour drive or so, great place, btw they auction guitars off for people, so usually these aren't on e big collection, but actually lots of peoples guitars. As a side note I took part in the online auction and finished just now, seemed like the prices were a lot higher than usual, at least compared to when I've been before. I choose to blame that on you Trogly haha!
Man... I really wish you were into archtops. You passed up some real beauties.
Peavy t-15 Was My first Guitar, I still have it with the Amplifier case. Still amp still works. Still love playing it.
The six course guitar is a classical guitar from the baroque era I believe. The frets were made from gut. They were adjustable as they were tied on. They also had 10 strings as I remember. Two strings weren't paired and were used to play melodies. It's old stuff.
I watched a G & H live stream auction last week. A bunch of Gary Morre stuff was sold. I've been following them for years. Every 3 months they have guitar and amp auctions (typically a day or two apart).
I was just looking at this site last week! They do semi regular auctions of music gear.
Het Troglodyte,
Would like your opinion.
I was watching a famous blues, rock guy Joe Boss(can't remember how to spell his last name) he is a very well knowed and respected man in the music industry. He has old guitars and someone asked him what year certain models where, he could only guess. The other person doing the interview mention that he could pull the neck to find out the correct year. He said it didn't matter to him, and he said "when you pull a neck off to read signature and such, when you put the neck back on it never seems to play or sound the way it originally did" so he avoids pulling the neck no matter what. How do you feel about that. I mean he said it's never the same. Thanks and TAKE CARE
Gardiner Houlgate are an auction house not resellers, so I doubt they would do returns and you need to arrange your own shipping. I sat through this auction and thought “what would Trogly make of this” and here you are...they get some interesting stuff in and the estimates are reasonable but often placed to entice... some of the items went for big money, but there were some deals...The auction carries on tomorrow with amps and pedals... They hold these fairly regularly.
Friend of mine buys every 1980-90s Made in Japan Squire Bullet he can find, all models. He has dozens of them. Loves them more then any other Fender/Squire he's ever had.
Interesting listening to you grow in your knowledge of guitars... Have you considered writing a book in the future! I’d buy it!!!
Gretsch sells the Duo Jet as a Penguin to this day. G6134T-58 and you'll see it. Being a G6xxx it's made in Japan and their highest spec. MSRP is $3200.
Burns London Nu-Sonic and Had it new from the 60's. It is before Baldwin bought out the company. It has the original case that looked pretty much as the one shown on that auction page. I think that was a Bison shown.
Damn I should keep an eye on this auction site
Another cool Vid🤙 I've got a question tho, do you authenticate or use ur services to find guitars for a fee???
Jim Burns was well respected,George Harrison used one to record the track rain at Abbey road studios,the older guitars from the 60s are rare,I actually owned one in the late 70s and now regret selling it,
A Shergold Modulator double-neck, pretty rare!
Had the pleasure of playing the 2000s-era Epiphone double neck. It belonged to a brief band mate. Liked it, but I wasn't impressed enough with only 20 frets per neck to consider paying $999 before tax to get one, let alone getting the Gibson version for double-triple.
I love bird's eye maple.
That makes a guitar look better to me.
@Conor Winston Perhaps--but my point was a reply to the comment about birdseye not being appealing--that is all
I have seen it on cheap guitars as well as expensive ones.
Antoria is a brand you'll see that shares designs with Ibanez meaning it was built by Fujigen most likely. FYI.
trogly: pink s-
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@@CaptainCraigKWMRZ I don't know where you got the idea this was directed towards you
I'd be stoked if you could find a PRS Zach Myers and do a review on one
You got to get the dimebag deans! That was a 9 string baroque guitar without a fancy rosette
Austin, seeing that you're mainly into Gibsons, I reckon it would be interesting if you tried a vintage, US-made Hamer one day; Especially their early models from the late 70's and the 80's were heavily Gibson-influenced. There's a few on Reverb right now, too.
That place really lowballs it's estimates, to get people in. I've looked at things before on there.
First and your channel is great
Can’t believe you scanned past the Shergold double-neck at around the 15m15s - it’s highly sought after as it was the type used by Mick Rutherford of Genesis and there is a lot of demand from prog rock fans. Especially as it only had a reserve of £600!
Just sold for £1250. There's a full set of modules in the amps, equipment and memorabilia auction they're holding tomorrow.
Looking forward to some Gibson reveiws
Really nice pieces in that auction but your right a lot of fees and legal junks!!
You can check rob scalon's video for that spanish tiny guitar
I’d love to see a review on Robbie Kriegers Gibson SG
Fender Bullet bass - B30 short scale and B34 long scale
The walnut strat sold for £1600 plus charges good deal if you have the money
The auction hall is down the road to me and I can tell you that estimates are usually low and final prices are high +20% + vat.. There are hardly ever any bargains because savvy shop owners camp outside in vans and they know what to buy. Happens 4 times a year...
Hey trogly have ever done a review on an epiphone snow falcon, very neat and cool guitar.
Daniel Slaman makes incredibly beautiful guitars. Although I’ve never played one, he recreates famous Gibson Jazz guitars including Charlie Christian , Barney Kessel and George Gobal models. He also mixes appoints for his own versions. He also has a jazz single pickup Les Paul model called the Paulette. He’s in the Netherlands but check out his website. Just google him
Wow , I'm really surprised Austin , you hadn't seen Burns guitars before ? Jim Burns was often called the British Leo Fender over here 🇬🇧😉🎸
3 screws on the EDS-1275 trussrod cover?
You'd think this being an auction house they'd at least have someone clean these guitars up. It's as if they hung them on a wall and never touched them. Tried to haggle down a robot on reverb that's been listed for 3 years. It's a a music store on the east coast. But they weren't having it. I forget the name brand but I saw some spanish guitars like what you were looking at that were priced as high if not higher than some of Gibson's high end guitars if not higher.
Maybe
Good video
I am wondering who this person was. What a collection for an individual to own.
The auctioneer mentioned that the first 20 lots were the collection - everything up to and including the White Penguin conversion basically.
Those twenty sold for a hair under £70,000.
The priorities some folks have....: 'Yes, i will leave the plastic on the pickguard! But i will trash the amp'.....some bubuu there...😂🙄🤘🎸
I think it’s hysterical you know all the serious crazy minutiae of the most obscure Gibson and your reaction reaction to a Burns was, “what the heck is that‽”🤣🤣
You’ve never heard of a burns? WOW
I paused the video to read that info and it does look like they will ship overseas but the buyer has to obtain the import/export shipping paperwork themselves.
Bullet basses are common.
MIJ production.
Why did that double neck have a truss rod covers with a three screw plate when gibson are supposed to have two?
That’s right, keep sleeping on the SQ Squier guitars...just means more for those of us who know!!
With you buddy!!!
I could have bought the moto Strat and Twin Reverb set back in the 2000s for cheap. I wasn't into Strats yet at that point. Too bad as I could have afforded it painlessly.
You get the VAT back when they leave the UK how come you've never heard of Burns ??
They don't ship at all, even within the UK you have to arrange your own shipping, they give you some suggestions and you have to sort it
Wow! you never heard of burns? British guitar and amp company
I've had ibanez version the gibson double neck. bigsby tremolo would've been nice on those guitars. I can palm mute all day.
I’m sure Norman has his eyes on this auction.
Burns is a British Guitar maker that was founded in 1959. Unless you're a fan of Hank Marvin it's unlikely you'll have seen one. (The most popular guitar manufacturer in England at one time. :P)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burns_London
@Harry. B. Renner. jr. they are made in the far East now but back in the 50s and 60s at least they were made in the UK.
The Marvin Model apparently came about because Hank Marvin of The Shadows was the first person to be able to import a fender into the UK but the frets were in the wrong place, making it unplayable.
He approached Burns to make a replacement because he'd just spent a fortune importing a defective instrument and needed a guitar that wouldn't be subject to import taxes, which were many times greater than they are now owing to there actually being manufacturing and industrial jobs in the UK back then.
There was a Japanese brand called Burns in the ‘60s and ‘70s, but they weren’t affiliated with the British Burns company. I believe the Japanese ones were intended only for release in Japan.
COOL
So with the the white double neck.. those truss rod covers look Chibson.. but the rest of it doesnt...
*Converting old Gretsches isn't such a bad idea. Because the type of celluloid binding they used it can rot and do all kinds of damage to the finish and the rest of the guitar, especially if you leave it in it's case where you trap the gases it emits over time you're gonna have a real bad time.*
Just watched some of the Auction. Who's buying these Guitars? There are some mad prices, particularly when you consider that you have to add fees and VAT, then you have to get it shipped. Maybe people get swept up in the event.
Sadly, the Shadows aren't near as known here in the states...
When you say 'can't help but not like them' do you mean 'can't help but like them'?
You should check jared dines video on the history of guitar, I don't remember the other guy's name on the video, but his channel is full of those 19th century guitars
Rob Scallion did videos on them two. There are some channels dedicated to old guitar like stringed instruments.
@@benjaminfowler4513 You're right, I always mix them up hahaha
I was surprised you didn't know anything about the Burns.They were big when Cliff Richards and the Shadows had a string of hits. Brian May's homemade guitar used the PU's. At that time the Brits still had a very heavy tax on import U.S. guitars. They lifted in the mid 60's and Fender was the first to jump in and that killed Burns.
Vat is included in all prices in the uk
Not necessarily. Some auctioneers choose to sell VAT Inclusive (the bid/hammer price already includes VAT). Some don't. Some lots are zero rated. It's a minefield decoding the various lot codes.
The text he was reading from was actually about vat being applied to the 20% buyers premium. "The Buyer shall pay to the Auctioneer a premium of 20% of the hammer price together with VAT on such premium". Effectively a 24% buyers premium.
Though vat is all moot for non-EU buyers. They can claim it back when they export it.
VAT not applicable when you buy outside the UK.
02:00 Not ALL complete Austin. There's no toilet paper, lol.....
I would think the collector took all the pictures. The auction house probably just used them for the listing.
these guys do this 4/5 times a year - they have a specialist web site for the guitars guitar-auctions.co.uk. in the past they've sold some very very expensive and rare ones. there estimates do tend to be conservative.
just checked, last year they sold George Harrison’s Maton MS-500 for £347,200
W.O.W.
Burns sell for high money in london.
can u do an episode about epiphone casino?
I recommend trying a burns. I never have but I hear they're heavy!