It was a bit tricky to get that first upper bolt started but with the engine jacked up a couple inches I had room to get my hand in there. I own a Camry. @@Merryfrankster_
Hey Frank, that was no hack, did the job exactly how you showed in this video. I did not start swearing until i tried to put the new belt on. Maybe if i had a better selection of tools, that would have helped.
I had two times to change the tensioner on my 2002 Rav4. 1st time was 10 years ago, jacked up the engine and took out the upper bolt. 2nd time was 1 year ago, similar to this video but no need to take out the crank pulley. Take out the pulley bolt and pulley first. Now the body of the tensioner becomes thinner. Then loosed the upper bolt and take out the lower bolt's nut. Take out the tensioner finally.
The belt tensioner on my 2006 Camry was rock hard, and barely moved down to loosen belt. I mean, that thing was so dang hard, that a cheater bar, and breaker bar couldn’t get it to move. I ended up snapping off the 19mm tensioner lever. I had to saw off the original belt to loosen the screws, and replace the dang thing. For me, it was easier to remove the top and passenger side motor mounts and jack up the engine a little, to make way for that extra long screw holding the tensioner to the block.
Don't know what model you're working on in the video, but I just tried this method on a 2008 RAV4 2.4L and it doesn't work. The upper tensioner bolt hits the frame rail before it is fully loosened. The only way to remove it is to raise the engine until the bolt clears the frame rail (like it says to do in the factory manual).
The entire reason I made this video is because this short cut method seems impossible - but it isn't. It can be done on a RAV4 or a Highlander or a Camry or anything else with a 2az-fe. Use the force - I don't mean brute force. LOL.
@@brianburke1481 you are correct. Just loosened mine and the top bolt doesn’t clear. Maybe for the Highlander or Camry because their frames are different, but not on the RAV4. You must raise the engine
Yeah i was going to chime in I got 2002 camry I think it needs done the fender well or ac lines our in the way so you got to lift with a piece of wood on a jack an inch or so to clear it
Yeah this dummy is full of it, I couldn't clear mine either. He no doubt took it out the other way ( raising the engine) then put a short bolt in to act like he pulled it out that way. People like this needs to stop making video's & waisting our time. 😱
It's super easy to access this seal so I don't see any reason to replace it unless it is leaking. Just take a quick look at its area at every oil change interval.
Great tutorial. I have a 2008 Scion xb. Does the same apply when removing the timing tensioner? Someone told me I have to Jack up the motor to get to the bolt.
I was able to remove mine this way, but found it too difficult to reverse the process. Had to put the new one in from the top jacking up the engine the old fashioned way.😅
Hi , is there a shorter alternative belt for this 2azfe engine , like my ac compressor not working , can I place a shorter drive belt to drive the car without ac
In theory, yes, you should be able to run the belt around the water pump pulley, bypassing the ac. But you'll have to determine the length of the belt yourself, by trial and error. Do a google search for "2az-fe serpentine belt routing" and you will see the routing.
Hi Michael, I'm thinking of taking mine off. Can you explain how you did it without taking of the crank pulley. What did you mean by circumventing by removing the shock?
I have a 2004 Rav4 and can't get the top bolt out as its hitting the frame rail with still some threads attached. Do I have to remove the engine mount and jack up the engine?
This video is intended to demonstrate that it is in fact possible to remove the bolt and the tensioner with a little bit of wiggling, just by getting the crankshaft pulley out of they way. Others have vowed this video and done it successfully afterward. But you're certainly welcome to try doing it any way that you want.
Hey Frank i still can't get the bolt out despite using your method. Perhaps the RAV4 has less room. if anyone else has some suggestions i would be glad to hear them.
@@brentyoung9231 I've done this on both highlanders and rav4's. If it is not working for you then undo the fro t and rear mounts and the passenger mount and Jack up the engine so the bolt clears.the frame.
Why not remove the bolt using a E torx and boom. Problem solved. Also. This is dangerous. Did not mention the key that is to be put back on the crankshaft pulley. 😑. Welp. Whatever worked? 😮
@@generation_ar7304 I believe it is a 8 mm. Don’t hold me to that. NTM. They are several different types of tensioners for this vehicle. Kinda tricky and they have changed quite a bit. The model I did the other day was a mess and I had to pull the whole compressor to get to it. Never again lol. I made a major mistake and broke the pigtail behind the compressor . I believe it’s the pigtail to the crankshaft position sensor. I got it repaired but I have a video of what happened on my page. Ughh. Terrible.
@@TourettesMobileMechanic any way you do it, this job is a pain. it was wrong of me to try to make it easier for anybody. It remains a pain and I get the blame.
im getting a weird gurgling whining type of noise on the passenger side only at idle in Drive. Noise goes away when accelerating and does not make noise while driving. only at a stop. any idea what the issues might be ? power steering pump ? tensioner?
I TRIED IT ON A SCION TC 2007, ITS A GOOD IDEA.. BUT THE UPPER BOLT IS TO LONG, WONT COME OUT.. MAYBE DRILL THREW THE WHEEL WALL? OR JACK UP THE ENGINE………..
Having trouble with the upper bolt. Im starting to strip it. 2006 Scion Tc. Should be the same engine as this. Anything special with the bolt? Right/left hand thread?
It's a normal right hand bolt righty tighty lefty loosey but are you sure you're getting the mounting bolt not the release boss or the pulley bolt? It might be possible you are mixing them up.
I am doing this now on a 2006 scion tc and the are 2 bolts and one nut. One nut and one bolt is on the actual shock, nut on bottom, bolt on top. THEN there is a 14 mm bracket bolt up top as in you are working from the bottom. It is impossible to get it from the top on a scion tc because it is way to far back. I mean if you have a 2 ft long 14mm wrench have at it. The problem is that 14mm bracket bolt is made from the same soft alloy as the tensioner nut and get rounded off easy. I am still working on that upper 14mm bracket bolt mine is rounded off. Been to all the hardwares trying to find a wrench made like the bolt extractor sockets to bite the rounded head. Forget trying to get a socket in there. Now if you have help, you can remove the passenger motor mounts and bottom trans mount then raise that side up with a jack on wood at bottom of oil pan. Sorry to report that top 14mm bolt WILL NOT come out this way. I had a 20 year tech tell me this is the only way to get it out on the 1st generation scions. He says it's how they do it at the dealerships.
Mr Frank, do you know if anyone makes strong gears for the c60/65 transmission. I want to go 450 hp to the tires and know the stock transmission will not handle that kind of power. Any help you can give is appreciated. Thanks again for the informative videos and your past help. Robert in Austin
On my 2005 Camry 2.4 I did everything from the top except removing bottom bolt and tightening bottom bolt. But you need to remove the bottom motor mount nut(very easy) put a jack under at lip of oil pan close as you can get to the far right side. Jack it on up to lift mount to above where the nut was and now go to top and you can work it out.
@@pkramer123 sorry bout that. I know one thing. I'm never ever ever buying Japanese, Korean cars. Ever again!!! I just got through replacing a serpentine belt, water pump, alternator, crankshaft harmonic balancer ALL in 2 hours and never skinned my fingers! It was all simple, Why because it was a 1990 Oldsmobile trofeo, V6 3800. I'm in the process of rebuilding the interior now, already put it a new fuel tank, sending unit and pump. All by myself, my ole lonely self. Lol
There is only one bolt and one nut. You remove the nut. You loosen the bolt but it cannot be taken off by itself because not enough space. It comes out with the tensioner.
Frank Saab That’s what im confused about, if there’s not enough room To take it out because there isn’t enough space, how are you doing it from the bottom
@@richyrich9082 You can do it from the top, or you can do it from the bottom. Either way, you cannot just remove the bolt by itself. The bolt and tensioner come out together. From the bottom it's easier. This is the point of the video.
@@richyrich9082 There is only one bolt and one nut. You remove the nut. You loosen the bolt but it cannot be taken off by itself because not enough space. It comes out with the tensioner.
The way your voice sounds, I bet it would take you a week to do this job, you sound like your either sleepy, exhausted, high, or all three LOL ! 😇 Good video though, thanks
Hack my ace,that pully is not the problem, the bolt is way too long to come out.and even when you finally get the tensioner on good luck putting a new belt on by yourself.
@Merryfrankster_ The easiest way is with two people, one on top,one on the bottom with passenger side wheel off,plastic guards, a side.now the belt is going on all grooved pullies first.the person on top holds the belt on to the alternator pully and holds tensioner wide open. The person on the bottom with a spray bottle (soap and water)spray a small amount of soap and water on the tensioner pully the belt slips on easy. It will slip on without soap and water but way harder. All of this will take about 10 minutes. By yourself, God only knows. Ps.if no one to help is available, try putting your new belt in a bucket of hot tap water for a few minutes, just hot ,not boiling hot. Good luck with your projects.
@Merryfrankster_ Yeah, right, I wish I had extra people around to assist me. I said the easiest way to get the belt on is with two people, and it is the easiest way. But like yourself,it's just me working. But since we're on the subject, surely you must know someone who can help you for a few minutes here and there. What do you do when you're booked solid and fall behind? That happens all the time.
I wouldn’t have thought of taking the CS Pulley off. Great tip!
Thank you for watching and for commenting.
It was a bit tricky to get that first upper bolt started but with the engine jacked up a couple inches I had room to get my hand in there. I own a Camry. @@Merryfrankster_
😂
How did you take off the belt?
@@陳宗偉-v8z some people think this is a fake video. It is not.
Hey Frank, that was no hack, did the job exactly how you showed in this video. I did not start swearing until i tried to put the new belt on. Maybe if i had a better selection of tools, that would have helped.
The 2az serp belt is a pita
I had two times to change the tensioner on my 2002 Rav4. 1st time was 10 years ago, jacked up the engine and took out the upper bolt. 2nd time was 1 year ago, similar to this video but no need to take out the crank pulley. Take out the pulley bolt and pulley first. Now the body of the tensioner becomes thinner. Then loosed the upper bolt and take out the lower bolt's nut. Take out the tensioner finally.
Good job.
Which pulley are you referring to?
Great job replacing this without Swearing at it!
Glad you enjoyed it
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The belt tensioner on my 2006 Camry was rock hard, and barely moved down to loosen belt. I mean, that thing was so dang hard, that a cheater bar, and breaker bar couldn’t get it to move. I ended up snapping off the 19mm tensioner lever. I had to saw off the original belt to loosen the screws, and replace the dang thing. For me, it was easier to remove the top and passenger side motor mounts and jack up the engine a little, to make way for that extra long screw holding the tensioner to the block.
Glad you found a way!
It's a bolt not a screw ! 😂
Exactly what I had to do. It would not come out the way this video described.
Don't know what model you're working on in the video, but I just tried this method on a 2008 RAV4 2.4L and it doesn't work. The upper tensioner bolt hits the frame rail before it is fully loosened. The only way to remove it is to raise the engine until the bolt clears the frame rail (like it says to do in the factory manual).
The entire reason I made this video is because this short cut method seems impossible - but it isn't. It can be done on a RAV4 or a Highlander or a Camry or anything else with a 2az-fe. Use the force - I don't mean brute force. LOL.
@@Merryfrankster_ I unscrewed the tensioner bolt until it hit the frame rail, and there were still threads engaged in the engine block. No dice!
@@brianburke1481 you are correct. Just loosened mine and the top bolt doesn’t clear. Maybe for the Highlander or Camry because their frames are different, but not on the RAV4. You must raise the engine
Yeah i was going to chime in I got 2002 camry I think it needs done the fender well or ac lines our in the way so you got to lift with a piece of wood on a jack an inch or so to clear it
Yeah this dummy is full of it, I couldn't clear mine either. He no doubt took it out the other way ( raising the engine) then put a short bolt in to act like he pulled it out that way. People like this needs to stop making video's & waisting our time. 😱
I'm pretty sure the crankshaft pulley has to be put back on torqued correctly. I'm about to do mine I hope this works thanks.
Def. has to be torqued
If you do this method, consider replacing the rubber crankshaft pulley seal . It will prevent a big oil leak and costs around 13 bucks U.S.
It's super easy to access this seal so I don't see any reason to replace it unless it is leaking. Just take a quick look at its area at every oil change interval.
Great tutorial. I have a 2008 Scion xb. Does the same apply when removing the timing tensioner? Someone told me I have to Jack up the motor to get to the bolt.
This hack avoids jacking up the engine. I have not tried it on a Scion.
I was able to remove mine this way, but found it too difficult to reverse the process. Had to put the new one in from the top jacking up the engine the old fashioned way.😅
Just curious what vehicle do you have.
@@Merryfrankster_ 04 Toyota Camry. (4) cylinder.
Hi , is there a shorter alternative belt for this 2azfe engine , like my ac compressor not working , can I place a shorter drive belt to drive the car without ac
In theory, yes, you should be able to run the belt around the water pump pulley, bypassing the ac. But you'll have to determine the length of the belt yourself, by trial and error. Do a google search for "2az-fe serpentine belt routing" and you will see the routing.
I just took the little shock off of the assembly & was able to circumvent removing the crank pulley.
Nice work! There's always a better way to do it.
Hi Michael, I'm thinking of taking mine off. Can you explain how you did it without taking of the crank pulley. What did you mean by circumventing by removing the shock?
@@southernrealist5789 You removed the shock from the tensioner, but how did you install the new one?
I have a 2004 Rav4 and can't get the top bolt out as its hitting the frame rail with still some threads attached. Do I have to remove the engine mount and jack up the engine?
This video is intended to demonstrate that it is in fact possible to remove the bolt and the tensioner with a little bit of wiggling, just by getting the crankshaft pulley out of they way. Others have vowed this video and done it successfully afterward. But you're certainly welcome to try doing it any way that you want.
@@Merryfrankster_ thank you i will give it a try.
Hey Frank i still can't get the bolt out despite using your method. Perhaps the RAV4 has less room. if anyone else has some suggestions i would be glad to hear them.
@@brentyoung9231 I've done this on both highlanders and rav4's. If it is not working for you then undo the fro t and rear mounts and the passenger mount and Jack up the engine so the bolt clears.the frame.
Why not remove the bolt using a E torx and boom. Problem solved. Also. This is dangerous. Did not mention the key that is to be put back on the crankshaft pulley. 😑. Welp. Whatever worked? 😮
Thanks for watching and for commenting.
What size sir E torx tool are using?6mm?
@@Merryfrankster_ no worries. It’s always other ways people go about things. A suggestion was all. I had the same issue and this was a pain of a job…
@@generation_ar7304 I believe it is a 8 mm. Don’t hold me to that. NTM. They are several different types of tensioners for this vehicle. Kinda tricky and they have changed quite a bit. The model I did the other day was a mess and I had to pull the whole compressor to get to it. Never again lol. I made a major mistake and broke the pigtail behind the compressor . I believe it’s the pigtail to the crankshaft position sensor. I got it repaired but I have a video of what happened on my page. Ughh. Terrible.
@@TourettesMobileMechanic any way you do it, this job is a pain. it was wrong of me to try to make it easier for anybody. It remains a pain and I get the blame.
im getting a weird gurgling whining type of noise on the passenger side only at idle in Drive. Noise goes away when accelerating and does not make noise while driving. only at a stop. any idea what the issues might be ? power steering pump ? tensioner?
Water pump
I TRIED IT ON A SCION TC 2007, ITS A GOOD IDEA.. BUT THE UPPER BOLT IS TO LONG, WONT COME OUT.. MAYBE DRILL THREW THE WHEEL WALL? OR JACK UP THE ENGINE………..
IT"S NORMAL THAT IT SEEMS THE BOLT IS TOO LONG AND CANNOT COME OUT. TRY THE SAME THING, BUT DIFFERENTLY, AND YOU WILL HAVE SUCCESS.
Having trouble with the upper bolt. Im starting to strip it. 2006 Scion Tc. Should be the same engine as this. Anything special with the bolt? Right/left hand thread?
It's a normal right hand bolt righty tighty lefty loosey but are you sure you're getting the mounting bolt not the release boss or the pulley bolt? It might be possible you are mixing them up.
I’m trying to do this on my scion, how did it work for you, were you able to get the bolt off?
I am doing this now on a 2006 scion tc and the are 2 bolts and one nut. One nut and one bolt is on the actual shock, nut on bottom, bolt on top. THEN there is a 14 mm bracket bolt up top as in you are working from the bottom. It is impossible to get it from the top on a scion tc because it is way to far back. I mean if you have a 2 ft long 14mm wrench have at it. The problem is that 14mm bracket bolt is made from the same soft alloy as the tensioner nut and get rounded off easy. I am still working on that upper 14mm bracket bolt mine is rounded off. Been to all the hardwares trying to find a wrench made like the bolt extractor sockets to bite the rounded head. Forget trying to get a socket in there. Now if you have help, you can remove the passenger motor mounts and bottom trans mount then raise that side up with a jack on wood at bottom of oil pan. Sorry to report that top 14mm bolt WILL NOT come out this way. I had a 20 year tech tell me this is the only way to get it out on the 1st generation scions. He says it's how they do it at the dealerships.
Mr Frank, do you know if anyone makes strong gears for the c60/65 transmission. I want to go 450 hp to the tires and know the stock transmission will not handle that kind of power. Any help you can give is appreciated. Thanks again for the informative videos and your past help. Robert in Austin
Monkeywrenchracing sells heavy duty gears for C60 but at the level you are talking about you need e153 transaxle and axles.
Sorry but what year is your vehicle ?
Has anyone confirmed this method on a 2004/2005 RAV4? And what is needed to remove the crank pulley? Torque spec on that? Thanks.
On my 2005 Camry 2.4 I did everything from the top except removing bottom bolt and tightening bottom bolt. But you need to remove the bottom motor mount nut(very easy) put a jack under at lip of oil pan close as you can get to the far right side. Jack it on up to lift mount to above where the nut was and now go to top and you can work it out.
@@mikelunsford2587 yes, this method doesn't work on RAV4 either - had to disconnect motor mount and abs module
@@pkramer123 sorry bout that. I know one thing. I'm never ever ever buying Japanese, Korean cars. Ever again!!!
I just got through replacing a serpentine belt, water pump, alternator, crankshaft harmonic balancer ALL in 2 hours and never skinned my fingers! It was all simple, Why because it was a 1990 Oldsmobile trofeo, V6 3800. I'm in the process of rebuilding the interior now, already put it a new fuel tank, sending unit and pump. All by myself, my ole lonely self. Lol
Not that I know of
Now show us how to get the very long bolt without lifting engine.
Dude I did that right in this video and I explained how you do it. We're you watching?
@@Merryfrankster_ lmao
A real comedian.
@ 328 what bolts did you take off
There is only one bolt and one nut. You remove the nut. You loosen the bolt but it cannot be taken off by itself because not enough space. It comes out with the tensioner.
Frank Saab That’s what im confused about, if there’s not enough room
To take it out because there isn’t enough space, how are you doing it from the bottom
@@richyrich9082 You can do it from the top, or you can do it from the bottom. Either way, you cannot just remove the bolt by itself. The bolt and tensioner come out together. From the bottom it's easier. This is the point of the video.
Do you have the tire off doing this?
Yes the tire is off and the plastic mudguard for the engine is off.
Frank Saab at 3:28 which one of those bolts did you loosen to take it off
@@richyrich9082 There is only one bolt and one nut. You remove the nut. You loosen the bolt but it cannot be taken off by itself because not enough space. It comes out with the tensioner.
No you just have to reach around the tire.
The way your voice sounds, I bet it would take you a week to do this job, you sound like your either sleepy, exhausted, high, or all three LOL ! 😇 Good video though, thanks
I have been told that I sound like Peewee Herman, and like Mr. Bean. But I think I sound like either Cary Grant or Humphrey Bogart.
Nice hack.
Thanks. If you've ever tried it the "other" way you can see why. Ha ha.
No wrong just remove from top very easy i did it
Hack my ace,that pully is not the problem, the bolt is way too long to come out.and even when you finally get the tensioner on good luck putting a new belt on by yourself.
to put the belt on, put it over the alternator first, then slip it over the smooth pulley. Unpublished hack.
@Merryfrankster_ The easiest way is with two people, one on top,one on the bottom with passenger side wheel off,plastic guards, a side.now the belt is going on all grooved pullies first.the person on top holds the belt on to the alternator pully and holds tensioner wide open. The person on the bottom with a spray bottle (soap and water)spray a small amount of soap and water on the tensioner pully the belt slips on easy.
It will slip on without soap and water but way harder. All of this will take about 10 minutes. By yourself, God only knows.
Ps.if no one to help is available, try putting your new belt in a bucket of hot tap water for a few minutes, just hot ,not boiling hot.
Good luck with your projects.
@@yahoobuckaroo You have an extra people sitting around just to assist you? Good for you. I work unassisted.
@Merryfrankster_ Yeah, right, I wish I had extra people around to assist me. I said the easiest way to get the belt on is with two people, and it is the easiest way.
But like yourself,it's just me working. But since we're on the subject, surely you must know someone who can help you for a few minutes here and there.
What do you do when you're booked solid and fall behind?
That happens all the time.
@@yahoobuckaroo I AM A MACHINE. I do not fall behind. I do not need help from anyone. Carry on, huma-an.
No
Calling Bull Shit on this one
Some things take skill. Either you have it, or you don't.