Joe Rogan & Jordan Peterson - The Evolutionary Basis for Good vs. Evil Conflict

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  • @gustavthegreat2811
    @gustavthegreat2811 Рік тому +6

    This was the most interesting JRE that I’ve heard, and I think the best podcast I’ve heard

  • @rocoreb
    @rocoreb 7 років тому +90

    clean your rooms

  • @rexpinsel
    @rexpinsel 4 роки тому +54

    I find the contrast of the intro "Hello freak bitches" with Jordan Peterson speaking right after that funny. 😂

  • @jonhil33
    @jonhil33 7 років тому +199

    Holy crap this guy talks some sense...so refreshing.

    • @djackson006
      @djackson006 7 років тому +14

      He posts his university of somewhere in Canada lectures here in UA-cam. Hours and hours of lectures.

    • @potterj09
      @potterj09 7 років тому +16

      He's one of those teachers who truly determines the level of enthusiasm his students develop. He goes to war with boredom & lethargy, & takes no prisoners :)

  • @xtaekneekx
    @xtaekneekx 6 років тому +113

    Joe literally changed the topic to talking about zyclon A or B cause he just wanted to show he knew something about it

    • @peterzaffaroni2871
      @peterzaffaroni2871 2 роки тому +4

      how tf DID he know about that tho?? haha so completely random - rogan a complete expert on zyclon

    • @Calebthedopegoat
      @Calebthedopegoat 2 роки тому

      If u actually watched the video.... you would see that the subject was not changed he expounded on it you dolt and even if so what it’s human nature to talk about things you know about

    • @LennonZA
      @LennonZA Рік тому +3

      That's what an interesting conversation involves: the mutual exchange of information

    • @gustavthegreat2811
      @gustavthegreat2811 Рік тому +1

      He was so keen to bring it up haha. He has talked about this point so many times on other episodes

  • @silverwingshi
    @silverwingshi 7 років тому +71

    I am here to learn

    • @MWcrazyhorse
      @MWcrazyhorse 7 років тому +23

      I am here to learn and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of bubble gum.

    • @llsspp
      @llsspp 7 років тому +5

      josh lott man there are not many of you people left

    • @QuietCrow009
      @QuietCrow009 7 років тому +2

      A better discussion than what was discussed in my college classes. I wish I was there to put in my two cents and get critiqued.

    • @vincenzospaghetti
      @vincenzospaghetti 6 років тому

      MWcrazyhorse, You got brains of steel! hahahah

  • @sumirunihon
    @sumirunihon 2 роки тому +28

    6:53 mans literally just predicted covid authoritarianism in 2017

    • @lesgrossman3405
      @lesgrossman3405 2 роки тому +1

      🤡 it's all a show

    • @andret5418
      @andret5418 2 роки тому

      Stay 6ft or end up 6ft . Speaking is a virus. Hence staying socially distant??? And not physical distant. It's more than a show .

  • @WillJohnson-nx3we
    @WillJohnson-nx3we Рік тому +2

    Watching this now is crazy

  • @christpebbles
    @christpebbles 7 років тому +17

    It's funny to me that he brings up automobiles and autonomy. I see so many young people who are not interested in getting a driver's license or gaining any independence. They are over mothered in my estimation and not interested in leaving.

    • @kazama195
      @kazama195 7 років тому

      Automation has removed the need for that sense of independence but it is necessary towards the overall growth of the individual. If you went to any young person on earth and offered them a car they would take it. It's just as Michael N said, we're poor. However you are right in that the lack of need for that independence is what drives our seemingly lack of interest in moving further as individuals and promotes the want of having someone do it for you. We are a babied generation

    • @michaelfeeney9147
      @michaelfeeney9147 7 років тому +1

      Driving is a bad example

  • @JASNSOUNDS
    @JASNSOUNDS 7 років тому +44

    holy motherfuckingshit i like this guy

  • @borilboyanov5544
    @borilboyanov5544 7 років тому +11

    Guy works/talks with/ archetypes like they are nothing! I like him now... thanks Joe

  • @jorgealbertoramirez6068
    @jorgealbertoramirez6068 7 років тому +6

    Can't wait for may 16th dr jordan peterson

  • @jonasdamion1627
    @jonasdamion1627 7 років тому +23

    after all that , "are you sure it was zyklon b and not zyklon a..?." goddamn JP must've been thinking "wow he didnt understand a word i just said"

  • @everythingwithashton5876
    @everythingwithashton5876 2 роки тому +5

    19:22 Jordan realizes how much of a tangent he went on.

  • @JohnTurner313
    @JohnTurner313 5 років тому +3

    Mind. Blown.

  • @davefischer2344
    @davefischer2344 7 років тому +7

    4:09 I think it's more than just tribal, it's also deeply psychological

  • @thewoamusic
    @thewoamusic 3 роки тому +5

    That why people always viewed me as threatening.... I get it now..... I don't respect the hierarchy. So naturally it thinks I'm a snake. I smoke grass so I guess that makes me "a snake in the grass." 🎉

  • @cherylnagy126
    @cherylnagy126 7 місяців тому +1

    An instantaneous Nervous System response, bypassing all cognitive function

  • @DizGuys
    @DizGuys 7 років тому +3

    I like to throw unspoken ideas into groups to mess with hierarchies. Who want's to be part of closed groups!?

  • @KlrRaptoR
    @KlrRaptoR 7 років тому +5

    Lancaster Archery supply......Joe knows whats up!

    • @KlrRaptoR
      @KlrRaptoR 7 років тому

      Im thinking its just an advertising gig, and Im sure Joe got some perks from it!

  • @johanlarsson5425
    @johanlarsson5425 6 років тому +4

    When i was angry and rude to my father, he allways asked me if eat a snake for breakfast.

  • @GJBarreda
    @GJBarreda 7 років тому +4

    fascinating

  • @justincrosby9992
    @justincrosby9992 7 років тому +12

    Good and Evil is based on perception and survival.

    • @crzyeightch264
      @crzyeightch264 7 років тому +3

      Not exactly true. Evil has an element of malevolence. If you have decide to kill another through a rationale that that person is a perceived threat, and you do it from behind and slitting their throat. Fair enough, not pretty but possibly necessary. However, if you put a mirror in front of your victim so he can watch himself die, that's Evil. not much room for a different perception there.

    • @justincrosby9992
      @justincrosby9992 7 років тому +2

      I've never heard of someone killing their victim in front of a mirror. You're arguing just to argue. And even still. What if that person killed your entire family in front of you. Then left you to die. Then you came back and killed that dude in front of a mirror so he can watch himself die...just like he did to you. Is that evil? To me i think it's justified good.

  • @killingtramps
    @killingtramps 7 років тому +8

    Automobiles scream autonomy initially until the total dependency on fuel tied to fiat ponzi that costs a 3rd of the average persons salary. that's how they get you. By giving you what appears to be a gift but instead are manacles

  • @sanstronik
    @sanstronik 6 років тому +2

    The first sentence he says: "the best personality predictor of politicaly correct beileve , cause we have done this study, though it is not published yet.." hmm interesting.

  • @aaronjohnstone2800
    @aaronjohnstone2800 3 роки тому

    deep

  • @tumishoramodisa9602
    @tumishoramodisa9602 2 роки тому +2

    6:52 Peterson already knew about the authoritative response to infectious disease's (aka covid) 5 years ago!!! wow

  • @malevolentntt8155
    @malevolentntt8155 6 років тому +4

    Peterson has a minuscule problem here. Where he uses order associated with the “right”, the fact is that both schools of thought are rigid at the extremes. Difference lies in the overall attitude. Divergence appears where one prefers exploration and inclusion, while other is dedicated to a routine and its continuance at all costs.

  • @fategg6998
    @fategg6998 4 роки тому +2

    i was seven minutes in when i realised he was irish

    • @fategg6998
      @fategg6998 4 роки тому +1

      human being on earth oh dang fr??

  • @BobBob-eg3wu
    @BobBob-eg3wu 7 років тому +4

    Stoned people must love this shit.

  • @Fordemups
    @Fordemups 4 роки тому +1

    Wow

  • @IceCold11235
    @IceCold11235 7 років тому +4

    Why is the poisonus snake a metaphor for something that attacks people? Poisonus snakes dont hunt humans. A wolf, or a crocodile I could understand.

    • @hujiko44745278184
      @hujiko44745278184 7 років тому +15

      they did when our species
      lived in trees

    • @ianwilliamson5
      @ianwilliamson5 7 років тому +3

      UH SIR MMMMMMMMM *BREETHES DEEPLY* * TIPS FEDORA* MMMMMMMMMS IRRRR I BELIEVE *DIGESTS MTN DEW* THAT YOU MEAN TO SAY *BELCH* OUR COMMON ANCESTORRRR

    • @armara70
      @armara70 7 років тому +14

      IceCold11235 A snake was a very real threat for ancient man. The fact of the insidious nature of its threat, say lying in tall grass waiting to be stepped on by someone not careful, makes it more analogous than the obvious threat of a bear or tiger.

    • @Justyn219
      @Justyn219 7 років тому +1

      this person is being ignant.

    • @beastmasterbg
      @beastmasterbg 7 років тому +4

      back then when people were in jungles and oxygen levels were so high which made:
      gigantic deep jungles and gigantic snakes lizard and it really was hunt or be hunted at maximum level
      the snake was the most feared because you could sleep in a tent and die from a big python killing you while you sleep ,or just be bitten by a small highly venomous snake while walking and die instantly or slowly
      so yeah snakes were the most dangerous and feared

  • @chryzlerOCD
    @chryzlerOCD 4 роки тому +2

    Jordan “and you might say” Peterson

  • @PordanBJeterson
    @PordanBJeterson 7 років тому

    It's not good to be evil.

  • @Kenny-qe4zx
    @Kenny-qe4zx 7 років тому +8

    I've always pondered good and evil, when you take yourself out of the human perspective and imagine seeing certain phenomenon from the perspective of the solar system or universe things don't seem so black and white, for instance when the sun explodes and destroys all matter and life is it evil or good as the same explosion will make way for new life or possibilities, it was also always doomed to end so it the sun good or evil, this line of thinking leads me to the idea that good and evil don't actually exist they are just human creations

    • @jaymiddleton1782
      @jaymiddleton1782 7 років тому +4

      Kenny Willis you're right. there is no good and evil, it's an abstraction applied to reality.
      so we can't be biologically hardwired to purport things that don't exist.

    • @RDstar75
      @RDstar75 3 роки тому +2

      how old are you?

    • @26adex
      @26adex 3 роки тому +1

      Star explodes because its dying, not because it wants to destroy something, dying is not immoral
      Also sun doesn't have dreams, emotions, thoughts and motivations, so it can't be good or evil because you need those in order to be moral or immoral.
      People who murder others are clearly evil. Don't compare things that have nothing in common, because you apear as someone from r/im14andthisisdeep

    • @quentindowney9897
      @quentindowney9897 Рік тому +1

      The sun doesn’t pay taxes or rent or partake in trade. It’s how we survive. It’s the human experience we get while living

  • @Crackhouts
    @Crackhouts 7 років тому +8

    Hitler was both open and orderly? In the words of Rick James, "Cocaine is a hell of a drug".

    • @iamjurell
      @iamjurell 7 років тому +1

      And Stalin was conscientious and disorderly. In the words of my grandmother,' Alcoholism is a motherfucker.'
      Dan Carlin did a great podcast on the hypothetical - and maybe theoretical - effects of drug use on the course of history.

  • @akbarj.6867
    @akbarj.6867 4 роки тому +4

    Yeah keep staring at your phone like you actually understand what he says. Hang in there.

  • @charliejeans2413
    @charliejeans2413 7 років тому

    deviant' is used to classify people as not complying with gynos. 'she's a feminists' this will become a bad thing.

  • @Keldaj
    @Keldaj 2 роки тому

    it's wild how Joe rogan doesn't discuss topics about the right doing those things to the left in the same way, as if the right or conservatives don't fit the same rules as a non thinking collective of people, just like the left does, but I guess that's just how it is.
    i complain about accountability all the time and how people will lie about their true intent, so I wont' i've done it before.....and I recognize that I have. but I recognized it and I have the ability to become a truly better human being because of my awareness being capable of turning on my self. I can become better. whereas a person who continues lying to themself can't.

  • @visionwarrior777
    @visionwarrior777 Рік тому

    Love this frank talk..... hmm......somebody clearly went out of their way to change the format of how this video is posted/seen. The tab has been taken away whereby you can't save this video into your library. What's up with that? You can like, dislike, share, but the next tab is gone, the one you click on to "save" the video into your account/personal video library. That's a little fishy? Somebody doesn't want us to be able to come back and watch again or reference? WTF?

  • @mrsquishyboots
    @mrsquishyboots 7 років тому

    How to destroy communism; show an episode of Dallas.

  • @jonasdamion1627
    @jonasdamion1627 7 років тому +1

    wow poor joe cant do any of this

  • @markharmon4963
    @markharmon4963 7 років тому +3

    Automobiles are not a symbol of individual independence. They require, roads, gas stations, skilled mechanics, a governing set of road rules and safety standards. A diamond ring screams, " I do not care about the rest of you," to the people.

  • @MC_Hammerpants
    @MC_Hammerpants 7 років тому +1

    my wife left me

  • @JaimeG88
    @JaimeG88 7 років тому +6

    Stop watching porn.

  • @casey3506
    @casey3506 2 роки тому

    Peterson is R. BRAND in a three piece suite, both geeks no matter which way you look at em and your choice in guests gettin boring. Just sayin.

  • @0Fidel0
    @0Fidel0 7 років тому +1

    Pro-Anti-Violence ... classic! :D

  • @slayinsaiyan5042
    @slayinsaiyan5042 7 років тому +3

    ha first

  • @staceyjohnson9185
    @staceyjohnson9185 7 років тому

    I'd like to know this guy's view on torturous, murdering pedophiles. Can I please have a moral opinion as them being the "others"? I'll have to listen to more of his philosophies, very interesting guy.

    • @staceyjohnson9185
      @staceyjohnson9185 7 років тому

      PoofyKittyPants And I'd tell him he's full of shit then.

    • @PoofyKittyPants
      @PoofyKittyPants 7 років тому

      Watch out folks we have an ubermench.

    • @staceyjohnson9185
      @staceyjohnson9185 7 років тому

      Aaahhhh I see what you are, "PoofyKittyPants".......nice try.

    • @PoofyKittyPants
      @PoofyKittyPants 7 років тому +2

      You know the first step to becoming murderous is thinking that you are above other people.

    • @PoofyKittyPants
      @PoofyKittyPants 7 років тому

      Oh nice of you to deign to give me your permission to have an opinion.

  • @SuburbanConan
    @SuburbanConan 7 років тому +1

    This guy vs Hitchens would've made a top selling ppv...if God didn't kill Hitchens first of course...

  • @ProliantLife
    @ProliantLife 2 роки тому

    Jordan the west hasn’t been around for thousands of years i mean civilized Europeans didn’t come about until around 1200 bc. Very late to the party

  • @Nic_AI
    @Nic_AI 2 роки тому

    Moral of the story: never punch a nazi, hug a nazi!

    • @willu842
      @willu842 Рік тому

      Imagine how dumb you have to be where THIS is your take after watching the video

  • @kaysi768
    @kaysi768 7 років тому

    keep giving the right reasons to be hateful and while bringing up very slight cases like Berkeley

    • @brettvv7475
      @brettvv7475 7 років тому +1

      ComicBookGuy Henderson _Slight_ cases? Good grief. Do you think this very intelligent clinical psychologist somehow doesn't _actually believe_ what he himself is saying? That is fucking moronic.

  • @michaelveroukis1126
    @michaelveroukis1126 6 років тому +1

    I am a fan of Jordan Peterson! Having said that, his tackling of this question is less than flattering to his IQ! when Joe posed the question of the evolutionary basis he went on a rambling tirade of his views with the absence of facts that usually accompany his answers! The complexity of good vs evil cannot be properly debated by his over -simplification of predatory vs maternaly agreeable behaviour! He lost himself in his attempt to answer the question and kept coming back to it primarily because he knew he did not adequately respond! It was hard to watch! Dear doctor, please do not let your ego surpass your intellect! Celebrity status and vanity do have their pitfalls! Not everything you espouse will be taken as gospel!