The Sony a1 Gets Even Better! + More a7S III Improvements
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Discussing 8K recording on the Sony Alpha 1 using the battery grip, getting oversampled 4K externally, & the S-Cinetone update for the a7S III.
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Discussing 8K recording on the Sony Alpha 1 using the battery grip, getting oversampled 4K externally, & the S-Cinetone update for the a7S III.
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Table of Contents:
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0:00 - Intro & Disclosure
1:26 - a1 Vertical Battery Grip
1:51 - Recap of Current 8K Performance
3:23 - Brief Review of the VG-C4EM
4:31 - Improved 8K with the Grip
5:38 - Thoughts on High Temp Shutoff
7:08 - USB Power/Charging with Grip
10:28 - Oversampled External Recording Discovery
12:18 - Getting Better 4K from the a1
14:41 - HDMI Oversampling on Other Cameras
16:13 - S-Cinetone on a7S III
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Man I wish we’d have the Gerald Undone in the photography world, your videos are.. basically perfect.
On point, very technical, yet short and without the bullshit.
That 8k internal to 4k output is absolutely brilliant sir, well done
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That is an interesting finding about the external recording.
Yup that is a fantastic find! Oversampled 4K recording.
This is what makes Gerald so great. I can't think of anyone else doing these kinds of in depth tests that result in such a wealth of information. Thanks!
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This is the type of content almost nobody else creates and I truly appreciate it! Amazing work, as usual, thanks a lot, Gerald!
Love the attention to the Tech side of the review & testing various situations with multiple compositions of the gear ... Great Job as Always !
Finally: someone talking about the official battery grip! When everyone was talking about overheating, and Gerald noted that a dummy battery alleviates that, my mind instantly jumped to the battery grip. There's also a 4-battery external official dummy battery too.
My First thoughts were dummy battery in the grip 😅
But what about the dummy behind the camera? I hear it can cause issues.
Gerald, your dedication to sharing your deep understanding videography and photography is very much appreciated. And inspires me to understand my cameras better.
the oversampling info was super nice Gerald, thanks for your exhaustive contribution as always!
That's awesome Gerald! Thanks for taking the time to put these tests together ✌🏽
Very informative and great comparisons on screen as usual! Thank you for taking the time and effort to compare these options and settings.
Truly excellent review / update! This is next level insight into the capabilities of these cameras that I haven’t seen elsewhere.
I just love this channel so much. So much love and detail always goes into your videos. Thank you for this! Alwys hyped to see a new video coming out from you :)
Literally the best camera videos on UA-cam. Thanks, G.
Just because I know you can do this, does it run cooler when you drill holes in the dummy battery?
A new breed of UA-camr that really knows their stuff. Brilliant. Very informative. Thank you.
Such a pleasure to watch your work Gerald 👍thank you.
Great work Gerald, really appreciate your deep dives into all these topics. This information is invaluable.
Genius setting 8k internal and getting a sharper 4K externally!
Gerald, this was one of the most useful videos for the ⍺1 that I've ever watched. I was happy to see that you have a JOIN button. I joined, and I look forward to learning more about my new ⍺1's video capabilities. Thank you for your detailed outlook.
I've always wondered who Gerald is looking out for in these intros, but you won't catch my man slipping. This timestamp 0:09 shows his eyes sharp, staying calm but focused so he can bring us the tech breakdowns we rely on. Thank you for your service Mr. Undone, I hope they catch whoever is out there looking for you.
Very exciting stuff here! Nice job as always with all the details. Boom!
Thank you Gerald! always the go to guy for this stuff. I love when watching other reviewers or people talking about gear how they usually refer to you for more detailed information. You are doing a great thing and I know it really helps so many people. Now if I only had unlimited funds to buy all this cool gear. lol. I know I don't need it all but some would be nice to have. Thanks again.
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1. 8K mode has about 17ms rolling shutter.
2. 8K mode's 4K HDMI output uses nearest neighbour down-scaling, it appears sharp but at the expense of increased moire, compared to pixel-binning.
3. Canon's 4K HQ mode uses bi-linear down-scaling from 8K.
This video was helpful and entertaining. Thanks, Gerald.
Thanks for following up on the dummy battery vs battery grip idea!
How is it that you only have 241K subs?.... Great work man!
Excellent review and great find in the 8k/4K output!
I like that the wrenches in the background sort of mimic the dynamic range tester
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Terrific update. Thanks!
tremendous work Gerald, im glad your not sponsored by any camera manufacturer, then you would probably be obligated to be bias about your results, but i hope in the future all of them just start giving you a camera so you can nerd out on it and they can get factual results like you have been, keep it up 🙌🏽😎
When you summed up you great video by saying that you didn’t want to give the A1 back or return it to Sony it made me so happy that that I preordered mine last month. I’m getting excited. Thanks for your hard work and super great content
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truly helpful! thank you again Gerald
Great info, as always! I always like your unique, rapid fire style of scripted delivery, but I often have to rewatch sections due to the fact that I can’t seem to process the info as fast as you can deliver it. So I do like this unscripted style of delivery a bit better. It reminds me of when I was giving presentations in college. I worked hard to know my subject matter, and with that I found that the presentation flowed better and came off more natural if I created a set of short sentence bullet points rather than a full blown script.
Great that you mention for streaming, I frequently use my A7SIII as a webcam and knowing that setting it to 4K internally but keeping my output set to 1080p is nice. I was always confused which is the right settings to use for a situation like that.
Gerald, you are the absolute best. You are the advocate that Sony didn't know, it needed.
Really good information and perfectly explained. Great video! Thanks!
After watching your videos and other's producers for years. You still have the best in-depth video's ever. Bravo for your hard work. It's a lot of work what you do and I appreciate it! Thank you. Need more of this and less of the B.S. out there.
Great catch on the external recording. I recently worked with a client that had pretty much this same implementation - read the sensor at one density, optionally pass through a dsp IC that has a switch to select input density and output density, where density here is resolution. If you are reading at high density it uses more power and you have oversample the output in the dsp, otherwise you can pretty much just pass through the signal. It's interesting that Sony didn't include logic to determine whether you are actually recording internally and changing the read resolution automatically - I don't have an a1 so I don't know, but I'm guessing it's no issue to start internal recording at any point while you are recording externally. They probably can't just flip the read resolution that quickly so they have to leave it as you set it.
Very neat observation and video, thanks!
Few months ago I just get a7iii, and. It is still awesome, can't even imagine potential of A1
Not even a Sony guy, and I’ll sit and watch these videos cause Gerald makes it interesting.
Do you use a gray card for exposing S-cinetone or just stick to protecting highlights and getting what looks good in camera?
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Hell yes. We need this to happen before the cripple hammer comes out of hibernation...
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Great video again :) I was hoping to get this info at the announcement, I asked sony people, nobody knew. And back than I knew I have to wait for your video :D
Yes! S-Cinetone gets Undone!
Now we need a Rode Wirless Go 2 vs Hollyland Lark vs Saramonic Blink Pro
That power delivery is pretty unique! Wish more manufacturers will do the same thing!
love the details you found!
What can I say? I'm SOOOOO thankful/grateful to have you advocating for the community and educating us as well! Alright... I'm done. :-)
Great video Appreciate your help!
I've been down scaling 4k from my A7III externally to my Blackmagic recorder for a few years now; love the results.
Thank you so much Mr Undone !! The best !!
Thanks for all the hard work. When you do the rundown test you have a still image, presumably for control. Does the battery run down faster if there are moving artefacts? Also, does it overheat faster? Apologies if it's a noob question but I thought it might have an "in real life" implication.
I used to record HD with my Atomos while shooting 4K on my A6500, the external recordings looked great and a lot of the 4K detail usually made it through.
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Nice. Great content yet again.
How’s the autofocus in 8K?
In the previous gen (a7iii, a9, a7Riii, etc) when they first introduced 4K, AF was/is pretty lousy. How does it work, especially with eye and face AF in 8K?
The oversample thing is something I also saw way back on the Panasonic G70. You could go 1080p 60 or 30 without a crop or you could live with a slight crop, set the camera to 2160p 30 and output super sharp 1080p. I then had the signal fed into a USB capture thingie. Probably one of the best 1080p webcam solutions at the time.
These differences in IQ is very easy to see in YT! THX!! It was eye opening for usng all Sony cameras! BTW... You sound amazing! What did you do since your initial new studio tour to improve acoustics?
You are very much underrated bro
Very helpful, thank you. I have just started getting interested in video with my Sony FF bodies, and you answered a lot of my questions. Just one small slightly off-topic point: did you have some sort of cage or mount on the A7Siii, or was the Ninja mounted directly in the hotshoe? From the video it looked a bit less flimsy than my arrangement.
Amazing conclusions. Gerald, you rock.
Great video man. I want to see bmpcc 6k pro video
as a 20 year long Canon user (tons of lenses) the R5 and R6 release made me think they'll change. But, looking at how quick Sony is with firmware updates, and that they don't go and cripple functions like USB-charging, oversampled external output etc etc.... now I'm back to thinking I should probably jump ship and get me a Sony system.
The other thing next to trying to avoid the huge cost of switching is ergonomics. Sony cams feel cramped in my hands.
I can confirm that the internal to external downsampling even works on the "consumer" level cameras like the a6400, when set to 4k internally and 1080p HDMI output it's much sharper, has less noise, and because of that wonderful old sensor also has more rolling shutter.
Great vid! Just a quick question. I have an a7siii and I live in a tropical area where the humidity is high. How do you go about storing camera batteries properly and safely?
Great as always Gerald. For the HDMI out at 4k using 8k internal, does it affect the crop for 4k/120p?
Gerald, as always - great content. I was wondering if you plan on reviewing stills camera rig options for macro photography
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Amazing as usual.
One note though
Try to keep something active in the frame when you are doing long take tests to stress out the processor due to ai and continuous auto focus active all the time. I think that would change the run time a bit. What do you think ?
Again amazing work and thank you
Here's something to test out: variable shutter and how to deal with flickering light sources in camera with A1's new fine-tunable shutter speed. You can test this in both photo and video mode. Currently there's not much out there on these minute but VERY IMPORTANT details. Also the new 1/400 flash sync and anti-distortion shutter might also be interesting to test out!
Here's to Sony loaning you the A1 for another round of testing ;p
Hey Gerald , BIG FAN. Got a question that I think only you have the answer for. Using this knowledge I set my a7iii to 4k internally but output 1080p, my capture card is saying this is 60fps. Now, does this mean I'm getting 4k 30 downscaled to 1080 but with added dead frames or am I getting some weird version of 4k 60fps (which the camera doesnt do) downscaled to 1080? Apologies for how dumb I am, hope that makes sense!
Hey Gerald, love these update videos! Any tips for setting up a picture profile for SCinetone? Adjusting sharpness or any other parameters?
It’s great to see S-Cinetone on the SIII. The update that would excite me most though is a shutter angle option.
Mate, noticed something interesting about the dual iso for s-cinetone. Forgive me if this was mentioned previously but when going to the upper base iso (2000), you actually have to go past it to 2500 and then back to 2000 for it to clean up. Just dialing it up from the lower values up to 2000, it has the same noise as 1600 but if you go to 2500 and then dial it back, it cleans up. 👍
Amazing video! Im between a7siii and S1h. Can't decide. What's your opinion on these cameras?
Gerald, would you still recommend the A1 in April of 2022 or do you feel the new version will arrive later this year?
Thanks for the amazing review and details. One question though, if i record a 4k 4:2:2 ( or the highest 4k ) in the a1 should i use a cfast as in sony a7s3 or still can use the v60 uhs2 ?
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I really appreciate your work. Thanks a lot! Regarding the settings of sensor resolution and external resolution: would you be willing to test one more thing, please? If 1080p is better with 4k sensor resolution, how does it compare to the video quality of 4k footage on a 1080p timeline in the editor? If that is the same, you could save much more space on the external recorder. Same could be true with 8k/4k..
Thanks Gerald ... appreciated !
Noticed the same thing when sending 1080p from the A7SIII to the Atem Mini Pro ISO. Quality of the ISO recordings was much better when the camera is set to 4k internal.
Hi Gerald. Not sure I missed this but I can’t see what setting do you recommend on the a1 to capture the highest quality on the ninja when the camera is setup to 8K. Did you say auto? Or 4K? For the hdmi output.
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