Keto Diet Theory Put to the Test
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dr. greger, at 4.50 previous sentence of you marked say that "DXA total lean body chance were not differentiated"
So now what? Which diet do you recommend to build muscle and stay lean? You seem to have a pretty good grasp of nutrition.
@@eduardocampos5739 he recommends a plant based diet, you can watch more of his videos, stay away from processed foods.
Need to support vegan diet? Bring out a dozen ethically conducted, controlled, double-blind, etc studies. Need to take down keto? Let's form our understanding this single study with ethical issues - funded by a company that embezzled funds. Yeah, that's great form, Michael Greger. Well done. Truly a great, objective, unbiased source of info on dietary topics.
Eduardo Campos A whole food, plant-based vegan diet rich in whole grains, fruits, vegetables, legumes, etc. All the protein you need to build muscles comes from plants, which also has fiber, phytonutrients, antioxidants, and other good stuff. You also have the added side effect of saving animals and going easy on the environment!
I failed at going vegan the first time around because I gave in to the keto narrative that starches made me fat. Now, I love my rice, potatoes, and beans while working out every day in my slimmer body!
When he says “PUT IT TO THE TEST” and “UNTIL...NOW” I get excited
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Me too 😂
Losing water
My mom started the keto diet over a year ago to lose weight and help control her type 2 diabetes. She succeeded in those two objectives, but suffered a stroke last month. I have not heard anyone mention her stroke as being diet related, but everything I’ve ever heard about nutrition makes me believe it was. More and more friends of mine are going keto. I hate to be the sanctimonious vegan, but I genuinely worry for their health.
Gosh, you get better.
Joanna....so sorry for your loss. I do not think diet played a role in her stroke. Stroke is a broken blood vessel, many times from high blood pressure. I would blame her history of diabetes rather then a change in diet. Again, so sorry.
Definitely clogged arteries from the diet
@@logangaddy Thank you. That these people don't know that vascular congestion affects the brain as it does the area around the heart is galling! Maybe they don't know there are blood vessels up there?
Joanna’s Jungle that’s so sad :( I’m lucky my non vegan family members still eat starch based.
Well at least they had the decency to accurately report their findings instead of cooking numbers to suit their agenda.
Siphoning Blues or not publishing and shredding all of the evidence of the trial ;)
believe me they would try but in a metabolic ward p-hacking is kinda obvious if you try lol
Why would they have an agenda to make people go keto? What would be the motive? To sell all the keto products?
@@wofferful you need to read the wikipedia article on "bias"
@@wofferful Absolutely. Have a look at any of these guys, their websites sell very expensive supplements that are needed to go with these great diets for some reason.
It's time for them to rename this diet again.
Bullsheeto diet
No one named anything. Ketosis is a state of metabolism and we have always had this metabolism since we became humans. Some people feel theyre not human.
@@dana102083 It was called Atkins. Now it's called Keto.
@@zorro149 Nope. Atkins is a completely seperate thing.
@@grantosullivan9789 It's all low carb.
Thank you Doctor. I am so very thankful I found your website and heard about a plant-based lifestyle after my heart attack 4 years ago, at age 61.
I’ve never felt better. ♥️
K H what was your diet like before that heart attack? Thank you for speaking up and getting connected and going WFPB /Vegan!
Red Pill Vegan:
Standard American Diet....red meat, lots of burgers, very few veggies or fruits really, chicken dishes. LOTs of cheese on everything, casseroles, fast food, sugary desserts, etc. All for years. Had to have 2 stents put in. Sure was a big wake-up call.
K H glad you’re feeling and doing well. May I ask, what blood thinner were you on, and how long did you take it? Were you able to come off of it after a year which is normally recommended?
MORBUENO GROUP
Hi. I stayed on my blood thinner for 2 years I think. It was a generic Plavix. I was not as compliant the 1st year as I should have been. But have since done well.
K H thank you for the reply. I was asking for my father who just went what you went thru and now I’m helping him find healthier avenues to help in his recuperation. I think if he stays compliant with a WFPBD he may be able to wing himself off the placid after the year which his doctor said he will need to stay on.
Finding 'your own' sweet spot of daily carbs is the key to your own weightloss. As the same with fats. Your body talks to you. You need only listen.
As a result of reading this study, the rate of cognitive dissonance among ketogenic diet proponents went up 100%
@@briansprenger5578 it can take up to 10 days for the body to stop gluconeogenisis, their diet went for 4 weeks. Try again
@Quack Watch hold my keto wine glass, I'm about to do my dismount.
Lol! Hey you look familiar!
@@FranchiseCityOnline I get around 😉
@GawdSpeed 6 weeks?! Not even keto die hards have the commitment to wait that long for results..
For all the Keto PhDs in the comments arguing that the study participants weren't given enough time to get into ketosis, you should know that they tested for respiratory quotient; all the participants were 'fat-adapted' after the 1st week of switching to the keto phase of the study.
Yeah eating a ton of saturated fat and listening to Jimmy Moores advice on how to be healthy never did quite seem like a great idea.
Like it or not but there is 0% since proving saturated fat is bad. Only some epidemiological studies. So please prove first scientifically but not religiously.
@@AnHeC science evidence? or you're not able to distinguish between pool and real science?
Exactly😂
@@AnHeC why is eating what you're made of delusional? We are not made of smoke, we're are mostly fat, protein and water. Get a better comparison next time.
Oh he dragged Nina. At least she recycles tho, respect.
Haha 💕
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@@holisticbiohacker8144 wanker
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When someone tells me that on their ketogenic diet all they eat is bacon, egg , steak, and cheese I know right away that it is an idiotic diet. Of course, I understand that Intermittent fasting and restricting carbs on some days (something like carb fasting day) can help with diabetes. But I don't support a full keto.
I think you got it wrong, you also eat a lot of vegetables on keto. If you didn't you'll end up with electrolite deficiencies.
Of course carbs are fatning, I realized 30 years ago while travelling around East Asia that rice and veg eating people were morbidly fat and Americans so trim that you could walk all day amongst thousands and thousands of people and not see one single fat person. Total common sense.
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Good one!! Im sure some people are stupid enough to take you seriously
Hong Kong has the highest meat consumption per capita in the world, and also the highest average life expectancy in the world. It's the ultimate Blue Zone. Don't take my word for it, look it up, it's an easy fact to check... Kinda shoots a big old hole in your sarcastic comment...
@@NickFoxer Unfortunately that doesn't mean much in the context of degerative disease. Most people in Hong Kong suffer degenerative disease for 5-10 yrs prior to death. Unlike Okinawa /Sardinia etc where they are active up until 1-2 months before death.
Americans eat far more carbs than East Asians, who actually eat a diet high in meat and seafood. A bowl of rice is a lot less carbs than a twelve-inch 'personal' pizza. Also vastly more fructose in the American diet, which is why people on the SAD are prone to developing diabetes and fatty liver disease.
Thank you Dr. Gregor for setting me straight! I have been doing keto for 3 months, and the scale told me I have lost about 30 pounds. But now that I have watched your video, with all of your helpful stats, facts, and words, I realize the scale has lied to me! Keep up the great work. :/
Veggie keto: low carbs, low-moderate protein, moderate fat from good sources, heaps of vegetables.
After years of passive silence , Dr. Greger has gone head first on Keto. I'm glad he's made videos on correcting people and educating them on this keto fad ! Officially through the videos, specifically!!!!!
@@CantEscapeFlorida Are you a pro-keto promoter ? Or a vegan ?
Fad?
They have been studying Keto for double the time of veganism.
Yet another muppet that only listens to the preacher rather than studying what is said.
@@takeoffyourblinkers then explain what's wrong with the way he explains this video? Use evidence to support your claims. There are heaps of evidence that prove increase of fat causes increase in all cause mortality. Must I link?
@@jannlucilleloncio2739 Keto involves consuming fats at large.
Almost all antioxidants and cancer preventive compounds are from plants.
Losing weight does not equate to being healthy just by that analogy.
Fasting can grant you more benefits and you can still lose weight with plenty of AMPK activity and inhibition of NF-κβ and TNF-α.
I'm not saying on what should you be eating and what not. I expressed what I felt like.
You lost weight because your Apo-E gene facilitated it. Those with slight modifications in that gene can bring serious consequences to you if you're either on just high carb or high fat diets.
Plant based diets are safe.
There's a great video on UA-cam by some Dr. On Apo-E and has a book by that same term.
All the best.
@@jannlucilleloncio2739 I just don't you why did you come here and comment on my thread and ask me silly questions and then say if it suits me then I should have it.
I didn't ask you to troll me, can you get a grip of your life ?
Tufano is going to have a tantrum
Get ready for more completely misrepresented science
Leonardo Da Vinci
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So is Dr Berg.
These people are like Trump voterz a faith based initiative--impervious to facts.
Golden Knight Libs do believe a lot of crazy shit but come on, y’all are like on another planet.
You know, I'm not a vegetarian/vegan, and I have a lot (far too many) of friends on the keto diet. They all want me to join 'cause it's so great... and in some ways I feel like go ahead it's your body, but it's always looked like an eating disorder to me. Hopefully some keep doing research from sources other than their favorite circles.
I like 'Eat whole foods, not too much, mostly vegetables'. Just makes more sense to me. Thanks for the video.
That's exactly what the ketogenic lifestyle is. You just described it. 8 cups of vegetables a day, less than 50 carbs, the rest fat and low-moderate protein. That's the cleanest you can get. No one is telling you to chug down oil and eat cheeseburgers 3 meals a day.
@@mikelattens3180 you mean dead animals and liquids from their body, why not call it for what it is? I also say I'm eating rice and beans, I don't say I'm eating "carbs".
@@ImprovingAbility Your argument of "dead animals and liquids" is something that every vegan throws their virtual flag upon, claiming victory. What is all that you consume made out of? Dead plant material. If you want to take the moral high ground, consider first taking a look at what allows for the sustenance of 8 billion people on this planet. Everything you consume, unless you are composting and growing EVERYTHING at your own ability, is made out of the remnants of animal tissue, fat - carcasses in general.
As for why not calling it for what it is: I personally consume (at least) 80% of my intake from plant-based sources such as MCT oil, olive oil, 6+ cups of vegetables a day, DHA/EPA from algae, low-glycemic fruits and my fair share of almond milks, coconut milks, and their respective flours.
Find a better argument. Would you say the equivalent to Inuit tribes that live in the far North America parts of the world that also happen to consume 80%+ of their food through "dead animals and liquids"? I wonder what they would eat if they got on the same high horse that you sit upon.
Michael Stolarz pretty sure he was taking the scientific intellectual high ground since he pointed out two things that negatively impact your health.
Lewis Blanchard they give animals all those supplements as well. Fortified food takes care if those no problem. While not clogging your arteries or causing diabetes
FINALLY! I've been waiting for you to kill the keto diet with science (humanely, tho) for a looooooong time
The state of ketosis is officially dead thanks to you. Humanity will from henceforth only burn glucose for energy. As your next trick, could you make snow illegal?
After being vegan / vegetarian for over 45 years I got in the car wreck. The drugs disrupted my digestive system and a year later I went on a ketogenic diet for 2 years. I was diagnosed with several autoimmune disorders and was on five or six different drugs including Humira Remicade steroids and painkillers. Keto got me off all of these drugs and back to normal and now I'm half vegan half Keto. You don't know anything when you say debunk a keto diet until you actually get sick and have to use one to save your life.
@@KeyofDavid5778 amen! Sometimes you have to explain to the vegans that there's a thing called autoimmune disease (maybe they've heard of it, maybe they haven't) and some people who have it (like me) are actually worse off doing the vegan diet. The whole grains and legumes are actually more inflammatory and disrupt the gut more than they are good. Switching to keto (keto done the right way which is a whole food diet that includes a steady stream of veggies and leafy greens along with wild caught salmon wild caught chunk light tuna 100% grass fed and finished beef pasture raised chicken and eggs nuts seeds coconut oil mct oil avocado oil ... Etc.) Is actually the healthiest route for them. I know, I've done both whole food diets and have better results with clean keto than vegan. Better results as measured through blood tests, best blood pressure in my life, best cardiac throughput while exercising (I.e. significant reduction in peek exercise pulse rate), coronary artery calcium score of 0 (at age 45). Also some people don't switch to keto just to lose weight (that's something I don't need to do) but rather it's the healthiest way for them as verified by their own measurable tests/results.
@@KeyofDavid5778 oh man, so sorry for you! do you do vegan keto or half/half in an other way? because I guess you can do any diet in a wrong way, but also in a better way. if you don't know her, check our "TheVeggieMD" on Twitter/IG, she did a vegan Keto challenge for 2 weeks, and gives a lot of insights, ressources, facts, research etc. :)
@goggles789 I don't, I have read many of the studies myself and have experienced with my own body. Have you tried a whole-foods, plant-based diet for yourself? no sure, 17 men is not the hardest evidence ever, but show me one randomised controlled trial with hundreds of people showing that a keto (or for that matter high fat, low whole grain) diet is healthy long term...
I'm not a vegan i've been diagnosed with prediabetes, after that i decreased my carbs heavily , and tried to eat enough to build muscle, it turned out it's an impossible task ! Without carbs there is NO muscle !
You have to have energy to lift, therefor building muscle.
Hahaha without PROTEIN there are no muscle. There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate!
@@karinet7952 Yes, there is, it's called glucose and it's the only thing your body runs on. The only thing. That's why your body converts protein and fat into glucose. It can't use them directly as energy. Look up the Krebs Cycle. It explains everything.
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lol the term essential means your body has obtain from external source your liver can make all the glucose you need with out an external source.
@@bobmonk388 Ah, so why have I been eating all this food all my life? Damn, I wish someone had told me all this sooner! I could have saved all this grocery money and bought a house! Shoot, I am gonna save so much time and money now! Thanks!!
I just did 6 months of Paleo/Keto and I did all the bloodworks and performance tests. They are perfect. Now I'm gonna do 6 months of vegan and see what happens
And? I'm very interested
What happend
How was it?
You don't think swinging from one extreme to the other is more of a psychiatric disorder? 😅
This information can't come fast enough. Everyone I talk to who is trying to lose weight, universally say, "I'm cutting carbs". It will be fun watching the keto craze die out.
@michael plemel 🤣 Yeah I botched that one pretty good. I guess that's what happens when you comment on the run. My bad, better luck next time. Thanks for pointing that out. 😁👍
@Youarewhatyoueat the way people on the keto diet or paleo diet eat is tremendously different. The style of eating that paleo biologist are maybe discovering dies out already. Last I checked they are not finding people from millions of years ago downing dairy, oil, processed meat, processed foods in general, and all other processed keto or paleo foods. The keto diet is a joke and will be 100% proven so in due time.
@Youarewhatyoueat all processed foods are bad. But if you want a side by side comparison of a whole food plant based diet and a keto diet, the whole food plant based diet will easily dominate it for best diet for longevity, disease reversal, disease prevention, and micronutrient content. There is no comparison really, whole food plant based diet is far superior than the keto diet.
For the record on Gary Taubes:
Gary Taubes set up a million dollar research to prove his theories on fat. It was hilarious because the end results were the scientific evidence concluded that his theory on fat was wrong. But then Gary Taubes blamed the scientists (that he hired) that they did the research wrong.
REFERENCES: Out of Gary Taubes' own mouth himself on the Joe Rogan Debate:
Joe Rogan Experience #1267 - Gary Taubes & Stephan Guyenet
A.I. - Vegan doctors are MUCH smarter than him, especially when they use the refrain “intra-myocellar-lipids”!
after they say that term, the debate is over and the vegans have won!
It's hilarious 😂. Oh Gary... How can you be upset about & blame the methods used in a study, when you're the one who approved those methods to begin with?
@@sonja4164 Hey, at least we have a million dollar independent unbiased research from Gary Taubes. He hired the Scientists himself to prevent biased research. He then gave the tick of approval to go ahead with the research. And then he was proven wrong. Thank you Gary :)
Of course the latest piece of research does actually support Gary's thesus , but that was when a real scientist LUSTIG as opposed to Hall did it . Oops
@@amandaatkins4771 but how exactly did he do it? Is it even reliable to believe? Did he figure out a way to fake it? At the end of the day its still likely a biased study
Dr. Greger, I am sure you are a FBI agent undercover as a nutritionist 😝
Ketogenic Diet BUSTED 😂
Yes! He does do such an amazing job with all of his videos doesn't he?
You mean MD not RD - as in he's undercover as an MD
@@CantEscapeFlorida So you think the biased people who paid 40 million for a study didn't do whatever they could to make it look positive towards their bias?
Indirectly claiming that the body's energy exependure would change after more time just proves that you have no idea what you're talking about. There is a reason why the study didn't need to continue and even the biased called it a closed case - maybe you should spend time studying biology instead of advertising ignorance online.
@@pfwinbar Humans started eating dead rotting animal bodies millions of years before they started eating genetically engineered modern apples my friend, and you wouldn't be here if your ancestors (even your close ancestors) didn't bust their ass to hunt animals. Doesn't matter how bad you want to make it sound, our digestive tract is very well designed for meat consumption. It takes more time to digest animal foods because our body absorb more out of it.
@@byReZio Yes and they were also eating lot of cooked tubercules, highly available in Africa. I begin to think more and more than both keto and plant based are wrong. High carb low glycemic index, high animal protein is maybe more close to what our ancestors ate every day.
Please show me one life long low carb/ keto person who has healthy blood work. I have a feeling I may be waiting for a while.
Eskimos spend their whole life in keto. They have seriously good life expectancy considering their uncivilized life and no access to health care.
And diabetis and cardiac problems are unheard in them.
@@lockhrt999 Show me your studies showing that Eskimos have a superior life expectancy without any disease. Also please provide evidence that they are in a state of constant ketosis. Thanks
@@CantEscapeFlorida When are you going to stop messing around and just go vegan already?
@@lockhrt999 valid point. Until it was totally debunked by actual science.
nutritionfacts.org/2018/07/12/the-eskimo-myth/
Excellent video. Kevin Bass is also doing a thorough debunk of low-carb claims on his website at "Nutritional Revolution". The only reason people lose weight on Keto is because they cut calories. It's really that simple. And.. it doesn't work for many people too. I wish they weren't so zealous about it. Lots of former low-carbers have moved on to more reasonable approaches to weight loss that works for them.
I love Kevin Bass, but I eat exclusively bacon and butter, and i eat SO MUCH ribeye, 6-7lbs at a time, and I reversed stage 8 cancer and lost 187 lbs, and also cured my depression and skin issues! No case study was written, just this comment. Kevin Bass must be biased!
It's easier to cut calories when fat is high, proteins adequate and simple carbs are low. The low carb diet keeps blood glucose stable. It works for me.
Tine P - There would be no arguments if the Keto experts would just say ‘Keto keeps you satiated longer, which helps you lower your caloric intake and lose weight’. No, they have to go down the road of ‘carbs make you fat’ and ‘cholesterol doesn’t cause heart disease.’
I´ve got so sick on one month ketogenic diet, and ruined my health ,recovery lasted me a year or so..I was using the best virgin oils,organic nuts and seeds,as much greens as I could fit into low carb intake, didnt lose any weight except water weight first week..Would not recommend to anyone.
Keto vanishes the appettie and people love it
Funny to think how i started out as a vegan about 4 years ago (nolonger) to now I can not stand videos about diet or food. This video was in my suggestion and I immediately felt irritated. I’m so sick of the contractions around it’s and food , who’s right, who’s wrong that i literally gave up being a vegan. It’s literally too much. Who knew eating could become so dam complicated
Very helpful, thank you.
I would love to see studies on vegan keto diets.
restricting carbos in VD is nonsense, every legume has carbos, you'll end eating seitan + veggies
@@rodrigoreparaz1813 Veggie meat plus veggies, yes. A number of fibrous vegetables are very low in carbs.
I'm not a vegan but I would also be interested, most of the bad stuff about the keto diet is the bad fats, but 18/6 hour fasting on a vegan diet might have interesting benefits.
Nobody wants to eat nuts and oil all day lol
@@turdturret39 Was instead thinking low carb veggies, tofu, veggie meat, etc
I'm so hyped for all the keto dudes that will come here to discuss their diet and how this study was done wrong.
"They weren't given enough time to get into Ketosis! Whaaaaa!"
If I eat all plant/carb based, I lose weight. If I eat all meat/fat based, I lose weight. But I can never combine the 2 on any level. I truly believe the SAD has more to do with excess carbs and excess fat together. Each is diet challenging for me. In the end, I must choose the one that reverses heart disease, but I'm addicted to tri tip sandwiches. This is gonna be difficult no matter what I do.
@@CantEscapeFlorida no doubt keto works for weight loss but it loses more muscles as well which looks bad.
@Quack Watch out of bounds !
@@CantEscapeFlorida you clearly were eating too much then. Learn to count calories, you can't lose weight effectively if you don't know how to
Sorry, Doctor, but I stopped eating carbs and started eating lots of saturated fats, and guess what? I lost heaps of body fat. I gave up my vegan diet, which had kept me obese for years. Also, as a T2 diabetic, I now have the HbA1c percentage of a non-diabetic.
People can say what they like but I did loose 30 pounds on a keto cycle, being in ketosis does not negate calories in calories out but in my case at leased it did suppress apatite to a great extent and ended my sugar addiction. Don't know how may calories I was eating I never bothered to count but I never got weak or fatigued so it really does not matter. Workout volume went up considerably, more stable energy levels, better sleep, and a complete lack of hypoglycemic events (which I have had since birth) left me with an overall favorable view of the ketogenic diet, I just felt good call that placebo if you like. My only two honest gripes are 1. Very hard to build muscle, I know it is hard to build muscle when in a caloric deficit anyway but even after reaching the point of equilibrium about 60 days in (@198lbs) I felt I still could not make gains in strength or muscle mass, which is why I ended the keto cycle. 2 It is VERY restrictive if you are on the go, maybe even more restrictive then the vegan diet as sugar is put in everything so if you did not make it from scratch it is probably not really keto friendly.
"But I feel good..."
lol. Yep. They all do at first. The dude at my local health food store just quit keto as he said he saw the same thing happening to him. His fat loss actually slowed and he began to lose muscle.
Theres actually a thing kalled keto flu.
You can feel dizziness, headaches, loss of sleep, argivation, concentration problems. So messed up.
LOVE this video. * NOW WITH THIS VIDEO i FINALLY KNOW THAT FOR MANY THIS KETO DIET DOES NOT WORK* I didn't lose weight on Keto..... I did it diligently for several months. I ate "uber" healthy counted net carb grams(( carbs - fiber)). Also tried counting EVERY single carb gram - regardless of dietary fiber - which is even less carbs. My fats never came from TransFats no canola oil, or refined oils((=oils processed by means of over-processing and very high heat)) ect. I ate a variety of avocados, coconuts, nuts & seeds, olives. No weight loss, and struggled to not gain weight - shockingly NOT the diet for me. Since stopping Keto, I am now losing weight again. Yeah! :-)
Your life must be so sad, calculating and punching numbers for everything that you intake.
Maybe that was your problem. Also weight loss shouldn't be the goal, how long did you do it for?
What fat were you losing that you couldn't see? ie fat around your organs.
Me, I dropped my carbs in food, no measuring, and inflammation went in three days. I even kept by daily beer habit to make sure it was my dietary food that made the difference.
See how simple it is to find a winner.
@goggles789
Countless others btw.
Better yet, check your thyroid, or cortisol, estrogen levels that affects the fat loss. I did ketogenic diet for 1 year and it's effective. And healthy
Intermittent fasting works very well with KETO. I do body pump and am having no problem putting on muscle mass.
Keto while vegan is not good... Your fat must be mostly animal fat.
Seeds make you gain weight and disrupt the omega3 levels in your body creating inflammation. If you think about it, it wouldn't be possible for you to be a caveman and walk hundreds of miles to find all of these seeds and thousands of miles during winter... So it had to be meat, that is the body system you were issued.
I being in ketosis state by y accident since almost 6 years ago. All because I'm allergic to fruits and all plant based foods and fiber. How come I have lost a lot of fat and my muscles are bigger than before? My legs and butt are more thicker like never before and I don't even do that much exercise. People think that I am a weigh lifter, they ask me what do I do to look like this. I only tell them that I don't eat plant based foods. I eat a lot of eggs and meats. My doc says that my blood test is perfect just cholesterol is high but according to recent studies high cholesterol is not bad. My mom was diagnosed with liver cancer and I encourage her to start the keto, and guess what after 4 months her cancer was gone.
Jason Fung tho. The study was biased by vegans tho. Twitter tho. The people's ketones were biased by Vegetable intake (known carcinogen) tho. They were not fasted 18/6 tho. They were still addicted to carbs tho. Soy.
Not grass-fed. Lol.
Red Pill Vegan the study design was flawed. Keto benefits only kick in after 8 weeks ;)
The researchers didn’t blend high quality grass-fed butter into their coffee tho. The fat in the coffee really gets the brain working and ramps up the fat burning. Flawed study.
@Quack Watch keto blogs > phd research every time
@@TheBirdyyeses facts
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keto plumber: Just use cold water.
diabetic client: OMG It worked! Thank you!!
BOOM! This is 24K Solid Gold, could not wait to share it with all my friends who think Keto is the way because they have been misled by those trying to profit from it.
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@@cytwc I'm most interested in the long term consequences of not secreting adequate insulin as the evidence I've seen shows it's as damaging as having raised/high spikes all the time. Keto is basically a starvation diet because long term it completely tanks your metabolism so you end up eating only several hundred cals a day just to not get fat.
@Youarewhatyoueat Smoking too has been around for 1000s of years.. I love that appeal to the past argument. Are you seriously suggesting we are of similar intelligence to humans 1000s of years ago who knew nothing whatsoever & lived lifespans half as long as ours?
@Youarewhatyoueat ua-cam.com/video/VX4fkXneRz0/v-deo.html
10 years on high carb, low fat, not oil. Still waiting to gain weight. I am lean as f..k and I eat tons of carbs daily with little to not exercise. Same my family on the same lifestyle. My cousins on the other end eating only animal products, cheese and eggs are fat and obese. They always look at me with envy but nobody wants to switch to my eating habits.
cant fix stupid bro, plant power !!!
Dr Gregor, not sure you actually read comments, or interested in feedback, but i ate a vegan plant based diet for 10 years then the last year, a “strict keto” diet. I’m also an endurance runner in my late 50s. I switched due to continual and slow rise of fasted glucose and a1c over the years.
Keto does in fact show quick gains in terms of fluid loss, and yes people don’t really understand that. However, I’m not fat per se, was roughly 8 pounds extra fat on body prior to keto. On keto dramatically upped fluid intake, electrolytes. My weight was always been steady but trending slightly down over the last year (I’ve lost that 8 pounds in the first 6 months). My fasted glucose has dropped 25-30% since switching to keto and rock steady. A1c under 5 now. How does extreme carb restriction affect endurance running, it hasn’t - in fact perhaps better.
Sleep, energy, moods - all improved. While I am not a vegan now, I eat a lot more veggies/dark greens now vs any time as a vegan, difference being i eliminated legumes and fruit and replaced with meat, nuts, and healthy oil fat (olive, coconut, and avocado). Neither as a vegan or keto do I ever eat processed food. Happy to discuss or share labs, results with you if you are interested in exploring the topic a little deeper.
Good Video, I did keto for 3 months with my normal calories and lost 40lbs. Mostly body fat.....Energy levels were off the charts but I did mostly vegan fats from nuts, avocados etc.... Guess everyone is different
And many people think the Keto diet and the carnivore diet are one in the same. I eat more veggies on keto than I did before. I eat TONS of macadamian nuts, 1g+ of fat per nut
@@datsuntoyy Yeah, keto means you produce ketones, period. You don't have to eat a steak deep-fried in butter for every meal.
@@jb_1971 Now I'm hungry. Had to mention steak.
We have to start to debunk diets meant to gain financially instead of the betterment of our health!
@@CantEscapeFlorida It doesn't matter if its vegan or not. You will lose more musclemass on keto diet. Justä eat carbs, they even taste better than all that fat and you can eat much much more dor same amount of calories.
Quack Watch for who? Bacon companies? I know they have some keto snack bars now at the grocery store but it is like two kinds in a whole wall of protein bars.
I discovered this study a few months ago and used it to dunk on my low carb sisters-in-law who’s a nurse ... hire me Dr Gregor
I think mic the vegan talk about this study before. Many dislikes for that video.
What does the Keto do to your heart, liver, kidneys and the rest of your stomach’s dedicated followers? In the last 14 years that I switched to vegetarian my cancer tumours just faded away, whereas my younger brother has been on and Atkins now even longer and has had, amongst other things, to have his heart stopped and restarted twice, and in the last year has had to wear a walk around monitor several times. Now this is only anecdotal, but I will add that I saw my grandfather, my father, and my two older brothers also succumb to cancer. Which is why it’s not just anecdotal to me.
So you are trying to tell me your family only follows the extremes of eating, either vegetarian= you, or the rest= atkins.
I call bullshit.
Stop with the hyperbole.
My vegan grandparents succumbed to dementia and Alzheimer’s. Albeit their hearts were fine. Could never follow in their tofu and beans madness.
The problem with the first study cited is that it forced subjects to consume the same amount of calories, whereas in other studies that demonstrated a net fat loss, they were able to eat as much as they wanted on the ketogenic diet--they chose to eat fewer calories as their blood sugar was more stable and the food was more satiating.
It should be noted, however, that Johns Hopkins University did find that the ketogenic diet was amazingly good for people suffering from severe epilepsy. That doesn't apply to everyone, I know, but it is still worth knowing.
Yes Dr. G addressed that in a previous video. The diet is a medical therapy, not a weight loss regimen.
Yes you are absolutely right sir. !!!
It should be noted that even for epilepsy the keto side effects were horrendous. But when you are between the epileptic rock and the longer term heart disease hard place....
amputation is good for people with gangrene. doesn't apply to everyone, but it is still worth knowing, isn't it? i'm sure it can be used for weight loss somehow
keto is great to get a reset after decades of damage done . for example to fix insulin resistance due to years of overeating and binging sugar .
weight loss is a bonus .
Keto makes insulin resistance much worse.
@@ethelchip3620 Lmao my fasting insulin has reduced by 28% in three months doing keto, and my fasting glucose has dropped from 101 to 86 in that same time frame. You don't know anything about insulin if you think a low-carb, high-fat diet makes insulin resistance worse. There are plenty of other things up for debate such as heart health, but it is irrefutable that keto helps insulin resistance and reverses type 2 diabetes when done properly, cleanly, and especially when mixed with intermittent fasting.
@Kevin yeah it seems like there’s a ton of research linking saturated fat consumption to insulin resistance. Google it for yourself. Keto diets are typically high in saturated fat.
The studies showing benefits are just short term because of weight loss.
I had a buddy who told me he was on a low-carb diet, so I asked him what his macros where. He shrugged and had no idea what macros were lol. Only the nutritionally challenged go on low-carb
Cause he's a fat head and has no clue what he's talking about. I've yet to meet anyone who claims to be keto who as actually tested their ketones, or even know's how.
Almost everyone is nutritionally challenge. If your buddy eat the same food and less carbs(refined starch), he is just eating lesser calories and he will lose weight. No rocket science there.
I have to say that I've gotten good results with keto - better than I did when I was vegetarian. The studies don't prove what the keto backers would like, but the study could also be flawed, bad methodologies, etc. I know it's only anecdotal, but I went from 240 lbs and flabby to 179 (so far) and strong as an ox. My blood sugar is now normal (I was diabetic) and my blood pressure is normal, my tryglisrides are normal.....maybe I was not doing the vegetarian diet correctly, but I feel fantastic and could never go back to the SAD. I think the main thing is to cut out processed foods and stop eating 24hrs a day. That will get you 80% of the way there. All I can say is I had (and have) sucsess with this diet. I have built muscle, not lost any. And the fat I had (almost entirely around my mid section) has disappeared. I like to hear all sides though and this was interesting.
Same exact thing for me. Eight months ago I was 237 and oddly enough upon reading this weighed in at 179 this morning. Weight was only one aspect of it as well. I had about two dozen medical issues (for years) that are either now gone or so mild as to effectively be gone. My allergies were so bad that I was Benedrylaholic. I had vertigo and near constant dizziness. My blood sugar swings were so bad that I sometimes thought I was dying and multiple times it was bad enough that I would call 911. Peripheral neuropathy was so bad that it was a supreme struggle to fall asleep. ...and a lot more.
I still have work to do and more to learn but I'm 46 and feel better than I did when I was 26 and now that I've started exercising will soon be stronger too.
Wow! Thank you.
I did keto carb and it worked and gave me many advantages and healed a lot of issues HOWVER! that doesn’t mean the king term effects are healthy. I have no regrets doing keto however I Prefer plant based. Keto is great to reverse medical conditions.
I've lost weight on Keto. I also practiced Intermittent Fasting.
Interesting video. It's promoted as a fat loss diet; yet according to this study it's not really a good weight loss option. In a way it shows the body doesn't like being in a fat burning mode for very long.
I have always maintained that ketogenesis is just an evolutionary mechanism by which hominids survived temporary periods of extreme privation of optimal foods. I now think, after looking into vegan keto regimens, where a higher ratio of carbs can be eaten without suspending the ketogenic state, that even in extreme privation, hominids sought out small amounts of optimal foods to supplement their fat based diets until the optimal foods were abundantly available again. We're not built to constantly scavenge fatty tissue off of the carrion of an apex predator.
First off I follow a keto WOE and have lost 80lbs in a year in combination with intermittent fasting. I have followed vegan and vegetarian diets on the past with no success in terms of weight management. I was aware of the study you mentioned and the issues surrounding it. I would be interested to hear what you would suggest the mechanism is behind the fat loss people experience on a keto WOE is if it is not due to insulin model? As clearly something is going on which enables people to drop the stomach inches. Many thanks.
Same here Nick. I’m dropping pounds and inches since starting keto diet, even with a cheat meal on the weekends. I feel better, bacon, eggs and steak are delicious too.
Dont make things complicated, Way of Eating? Way of Life? lol
“I have followed vegan and vegetarian diets” that says absolutely nothing about what you actually ate
if you ate lots of cheese and other dairy products or processed carbs and lots of oil then no wonder you didn’t lose weight
The reason why you lost weight is because regardless of diet composition, calorie restriction works. Eating less of anything will make you lose weight.
It has been showed that certain diets fit better with certain people. And although I would argue that a keto diet isn't optimal for health, any diet that makes you lose significant weight (hence increasing every marker of health) and keeps you there (no rebound), is a diet you should stick to. One should try, however, to transition to a plant-based diet once his ideal weight achieved to see if he can make it work, health being achieved at this stage by improving food choices.
Congrats on the tremendous results. Hopefully they have continued. Don’t forget to monitor your serum lipids though and make sure you don’t fall prey to the “they don’t matter” crowd. They do matter, if you accept statistics as being valid.
Have a debate with Dr. eric berg, i would love that!
I would too
I trust this guy a bit more, and I happen to like Dr Berg a lot.
Yes, I'd love to see those two butt heads. I also trust Dr. Greger more, as Dr. Berg typically does not back up what he's saying about the dangers of eating grains/carbs with scientific data as Dr. Greger does.
Eric Berg just likes to sell his supplements.
Appreciate you, Dr. Greger! One of your vids made me quit Keto today. Have chosen the whole plant food way instead. Thanks for bringing forward the info. It was the vid with the info about breast cancer, petri dishes and blood samples. Oh my!!!!!
@Peter Rabitt Thanks for the recommendation!
McGregors videos are highly selective and outragiously twist scentific research. He did a video on a paper which 'proved' high carb vegan was great for treating diabeties. When I downloaded and read the actual paper it said the opposite, the low carb group had better blood suger and control! You cannot trust him or his videos. He has one viewpoint and a pile of books etc... to sell depends on it!
@@AnHeC diabetes is not reversed DUE to a high carb diet, it is reversed by a diet - reducing calories and thus improving insulin sensitivity by cutting body weight. This reenbles the body to process carbs. By definition diabetes is a disease in which the body cannot process carbs! A low carb diet has auch more dramatic effect despite the lies and spin of the vegans
@@AnHeC slandering someone isn't a good argument either, you're making the same mistake in the same comment
@@SlobberySlobtype 2 diabetes is not a disease, it's a physiological response to the stress produced by insulin spikes, that's why you reserve it, but can't actually cure it.
Don't be too hard on vegans or vegetarians, some of them are assertive enough to tell that keto is not only healthy, but also sustainable on the long term, as evidenced by people like Dr. Berg or Luis Villaseñor. My only problems are individuals like the man of these videos that point with the finger and lie about the so called "opposite side" that only creates conflicts between people that have the same goal: stay healthy.
Have some patience, they'll soon understand who's at their side.
Keto: when your gallbladder is working well and you’re unhappy with that.
Carbage Man
The gastrointestinal physician I saw told me the keto diet is a quick way to screw up your gallbladder. Diet plays a huge part in the health of that organ.
Carbage Man
So the National Institutes of Health is wrong also?
Carbage Man - Sure, the most common surgical procedure among U.S. women, I.e. the highest female BMI population on earth, is due to low fat consumption. Makes perfect sense.
@@CarbageMan The increase in obesity isn't because of a spike in cruciferous vegetable consumption either. Unless you're unscientifically lumping all carbs together, as Dr. Berg and others have done in an intellectually dishonest manner. There's a big difference between steel cut oats and refined sugar, but you wouldn't know it from reading your comment.
@@CantEscapeFlorida Talking about refined sugar is irrelevant to eating a whole food plant-based diet, though, just as refined oils is irrelevant as a criticism of the paleo diet. So what's your point?
I'm currently studying an open University degree in nutrition at the minute and it is citing Gary taubes's research as an alternative theory to recommended dietary requirements. I'm so glad that this video exists as I can now share it in my tutor group to all the advocates of keto!!!
Share this to every piece of social media you have. Even though this is already public information, that effectiveness of the way Dr. Gregor explains this can be groundbreaking to the laymen. Sometimes effective communication is all that's needed
Thanks so much again, Dr. Greger, for explaining all this so expertly!
Maureen K
he is truly an expert!
we must worship his interpretation of medical research, especially because other doctors may be incorrect!!!
charathcutestory that worshipping mentality is cancerous
@@kx7500 😂👍
There has to more to this. So many people are reporting large amounts of weight loss, not just water and muscle, reversing diabetes, lower blood pressure, etc.
@Joseph1NJ there is, he’s just cherry picked some crap and ignored the rest. Do your own research, don’t listen to this quack
@Joseph1NJ A reason why some people appear to do well is that keto may be a great deal healthier than they were previously eating. Compared to the SAD, on keto a person is eating more vegetables ...maybe the most they've ever eaten[!], getting rid of processed food, and probably not overeating. All these things can make a big difference. And if they're healthier, great. However, a key question is what happens long term? While it's true that there are some positive anecdotes, they're generally short term. In all fairness, there are a lot of negative anecdotes as well, where biomarkers got worse, people felt bad, didn't lose weight, etc. Another concern is that a blood work numbers aren't always indicative of presence/ absence of disease. Thin doesn't necessarily equal healthy. I can't remember the %, but a disturbingly high % of people with heart disease don't know until their first heart attack, and a % of those don't survive. That scares me. Personally, I'm mostly vegan [I'll have some cookies or other junk with a small amount of milk or egg]. I feel that plant based is my best bet long term. I'm 50ish, so I don't choose to experiment for years. Be well : )
@@sharit7970 See, that's just it, the "science" is incomplete. I didn't want to speculate as to possible reasons why some do very well, but they're real, they exist, and science does not yet know why. Taubes and the rest are at best providing hypothesis, and he freely admits that. Obesity is a very complex issue. And until we have a better understanding of it, we shouldn't discount people's success. For them, the long struggle has finally provided results.
That's because there *IS* more to the this! ☺ going keto isn't just about weight loss.
@@mrblob5413 Satiety is of course a significant factor. Can food act like cocaine? Maybe. Does it stimulate serotonin and dopamine receptors in the same way? And to what extent is that controllable? How does that effect vary from individual to individual.
Science does not explain why keto diets provide the satiety some are unable to achieve elsewhere. I say its much more than just will power or discipline. Taubes, a physicist, speculates that insulin, a fat storing hormone among its other functions, plays a key role here. And that metabolically, insulin responds differently in some to high fat/ low carb diets than we thought it did, and its NOT the same for everyone.
I say he has touched on just one of many, many factors. I personally would never go keto. But he asks an important scientific question, that is, why. Why does it work? What is it that we've been missing all of these years? Simply repeating the same old dogma from the last half century is no longer good enough. Science must continue to ask why. Just because we believe something to be true doesn't always means it is.
Thank you for pointing these things out. The way I have heard it explained to me, is that you have to add or decrease the amount of dietary fat in order to promote greater or lesser body fat composition. When in nutritional ketosis, once your ketogenic fatty meals are used up for energy, the body switches to burning its own fat stores for fuel between meals or during fasting periods, while lean muscle, in theory, is preserved by the proper moderate amount of protein intake. I find that you have to drink a lot of water to make up for the increased fluid and electrolyte loss on keto. But does keto reduce inflammation and therefore ease symptoms of inflammatory diseases and the growth of certain glucose-dependent cancers, as so many people attest? Listening to you.
Peter Kuskis all cells run on glucose, not just cancer cells.
Check out the previous video he uploaded on keto last week. :)
Inflammation might go down because people cut out refined sugar, some preservatives, refined grains, dairy and certain refined oils. However you can eat a plantbased diet without all of those! :)
On keto you deplete your muscle glycogen stores. (Water + stored sugar that can be turned into energy fast)
Drinking water won’t resolve that when you don’t eat carbohydrates.
There are so many options to burn bodyfat. The most important thing is a caloric deficit. There are just more and less nutritious ways to get there.
Quack Watch Brah, shut up if you don’t know what I eat, or risking sounding like an abusive anonymous idiot. I haven’t eaten processed, or sugary foods in years. I meant the difference between healthy high carbs, as in a healthy whole food vegan, even, and low carbs-even plant-based, non-starchy, low carbs like all cruciferous vegetables (as one typically eats doing keto).
Lander Hendrickx I meant heathy carbs not crappy sugar-everybody knows that. I saw last week’s video and will take it into consideration. All kinds of people are treating cancer out there with keto and apparently getting excellent results-that needs to be explained!
Quack Watch I gather you know nothing of the work being done in the area of metabolic therapy by all kinds of practitioners getting real world results in terms of reversing cancer. Your ignorance is on full display, anonymous loser.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6375425/#!po=1.78571
Great video Dr. Greger! Thanks so much for this!
isn't the muscle loss due to the water loss (muscle seems to be around 75% water)?
@@MrKobayashi24 thanks for the answer
I switched from paleo to WFPB and gained weight. Then I experimented going back and forth and I always get more lean when I cut out grains and increase my fat and protein intake. I appreciate hearing about studies but I can’t deny what the tape measure and the scale tells me. I am desperate to find a way to eat wfpb that won’t make me thick in the midsection. Has anyone else overcome this on a plant based diet?
I've lost weight on a WFPB diet. I try make half of my plate full of veggies. Maybe you eat more grains than you should, increasing your portions of vegetables might help.
@@aylinalkis what do you eat for protein? I tried high protein grains, veggies and tofu. I can’t have anything made with gluten so that cuts out a lot of meat substitutes.
@@jesscnelson I mostly eat haricot or barlotti beans, chickpeas and lentils for protein. I can't access to meat substitutes like seitan and tempeh easily where I live so I usually just eat legumes and combine them with whole grains. If you have gluten intolerence maybe quinoa and rice should work. And maybe oats? I love eating oats for breakfast and they're also rich in protein. I'm not quite sure if it contains gluten though.
@@aylinalkis I have been eating kidney beans, black beans, chickpeas, lentils, quinoa and brown rice for protein. Perhaps I am eating too much. I notice that I eat larger quantities of the above mentioned foods than I eat when my diet only consists of veggies and meat. I will try to lower my intake to see if that helps. I’ll have to track my protein intake to make sure I get enough. I’m desperate to get back to my healthy weight.
@@jesscnelson wish you a good trip.
I like your work, I follow it for years and am pretty sure you are making most people healthier with you content.
BUT
2 questions:
1) you seem to have an obsession about animal products. You never seem to see any good reason to consume them and they are supposed to be the worse evil (right after processed food). But when we look at the Blue zones (where people live the healthiest and the longest) although they eat little animal products, they do still consume a little bit... so I wonder if there is not another reason for being so decisive on things like organic grass fed beef or wild caught salmon...
2) regarding the low carb diets, it’s interesting to note that there 1 million ways to be low carb... you can even have quite a bit of fiber and eat a lot of vegetables on that kind of diet. You seem to not go into the details there and talk about low carbs in general which can mean pretty much anything. Just like you can have a very unhealthy vegan diet... because... fries... are vegan... beer... is vegan... so you don’t talk about vegan diets, you talk about « whole food plant based » and I get that. But what about an « organic whole food plant rich low carb » diet? 😉
Still love your content though but I can’t help myself to feel that there is maybe one other thing that is guiding part of the argumentation
You love the content because Greger has an engaging style, and something tells you plants "must" be healthy. The reason Greger isn't addressing your questions is that Greger is intellectually dishonest. He makes a living promoting plant based diets. Promoting plant based diets is the "product" he's selling. He looks for research to support his product all the time, research he can cite in these videos, which are essentially advertisements. You're as likely to hear Greger talk about the downsides of plants, or the benefits of animals, as you are to hear a Ford commercial touting the greatness of Audi's. Do you think Greger never comes across anything positive or neutral about animal foods? Once you face that one simple realization, you're ready to pull back the curtain and see Greger as the fraud pretending to be the wizard.
Yes, the diets that contribute to longevity ... this is a very complex topic. The answer is clearly not that plant based diets are the healthiest.
Obviously, there's nothing especially healthy about plant based foods. They are almost completely devoid of a number of crucial nutrients. Vitamin B12 and D are the two best known examples. Try being healthy without Vitamin D ... I dare you. According to a recent study in Israel, people with vitamin D levels below 30 ng/ml were 95% more likely to be hospitalized for covid-19. Another study from Indonesia found that about 99% of patients who died of covid-19 had vitamin D levels lower than 20 ng/ml. Yet, vitamin D is virtually absent from plant based foods. Also, keep in mind that you can "correct" a vitamin deficiency by supplementing. However, it's very likely that you'll retain permanent damage, for instance, genetic damage.
Here's a simple two question private study you can run. Whenever someone tells you they're a vegan, ask them if they have a problem with vitamin D deficiency. (Answer is always: Yes, or, I don't know.) Whenever someone tells you they've had a vitamin D deficiency, ask if they are or were a vegan. (Answer is always: Yes.)
Why isn't Greger talking about this? ... Why is he talking instead about bizarre claims about animal foods, which almost everyone eats without experiencing his scenarios, while ignoring a mountain of research contradicting him?
Because he's a fraud.
And I'm just getting started. What about vitamin K2? The research is stunning on how important this is for health. And what about the omega-3 fatty acid DHA, that people commonly associate with fish oil? DHA is the basic animal form of omega-3 fat. Plants have their own omega-3, which is different. This mismatch means your body has to struggle to convert plant based omega-3, from sources like flax seeds, to the form our bodies use.
Note that your brain is about 2/3 fat, and about 1/6 of your brain by weight is pure DHA. Try getting your brain to work right, when it doesn't have the most important nutrient it needs. In fact, studies have found cognitive impairment among vegans. Gee, I wonder why?
The problem with DHA is the problem with a lot of plant based nutrients. Since plant biology is radically different from animal biology, many of the nutrients from plants are in the wrong form for animals. Humans don't have all of the enzymes necessary for complete and efficient conversion. Why? Because we're obviously not herbivores. Humans have eaten animal food throughout all human history in every part of the world and in prehistoric times as well. We're somewhat adapted to survive by supplementing with plants
Like I said, I'm just getting started. But don't let me stop you if you like the sound of Greger's voice and think, I want to be a vegan, don't let me stop you. Just make sure you only listen to Greger from that time forward. You won't want to know what's in the 99% of the research literature that he won't talk about.
@@rockysmitt "The answer is clearly not that plant based diets are the healthiest." No, in fact, the research is very clear that diets dominated by WHOLE plant foods (vegan or very low in animal foods) are healthiest.
"Obviously, there's nothing especially healthy about plant based foods." Speaking as someone who researches and teaches nutrition, we professors are obviously failing to reach enough people. Plant foods have hundreds of phytonutrients animal foods lack. On average, plant foods have 64 TIMES as much antioxidant punch as animal foods (and oxidative stress is a common mechanism of most chronic diseases). Plant foods boost your body's ability to de-toxify air pollution, repair damaged DNA, produce CoQ10, fight cancer (garlic appears to be the best, but many in the cruciferous and allium families yield impressive results), reduce inflammation, etc.
K2? Someone eating enough greens gets so much extra K1 they have plenty to covert to K2. Fats? Some of the healthiest and longest lived populations ate less than 10% of calories from fat, and while there is some reason to believe vegans should maybe take a vegan EPA/DHA supplement, many omnivores are low and that and need B12 supplementation too.
But Olivier asked a sincere question: he's right Greger doesn't address often the possibility that eating animal foods might be beneficial 3-10 times a month--and it might be helpful even for some people even who eat a well-balanced vegan diet otherwise. There's just not much research that is that nuanced to provide fodder for videos and podcasts.
" Humans have eaten animal food throughout all human history in every part of the world and in prehistoric times as well." Humans have also eaten plants throughout our history and they have often been the main source of calories and nutrients--including for some remaining hunter-gatherer tribes.
@@rockysmitt Isn't vitamin D something the body makes from sunlight? Isn't it B12 and iron which cause deficiency health issues in vegetarians?
Love this- thank you!!!
So I lost 90lbs in 4 months of just water weight? wow!
There's just too much success stories from people doing keto. And I mean, clean keto. I think you forget that. Hype all you want vegans, the only real reason you don't like keto is because it's almost impossible to bring carbs down on a vegan diet.
Thank you Dr. Greger...for bringing light onto this planet. I have used your videos and books as a great source of inspiration for myself, friends, and my Personal Training clients. Slowly but surely, there is shift in human consciousness and our awareness about food happening. You are a maverick leading at the forefront. Keep up the good work!
Brilliant work, as always. This finally settles the debate.
The answer seems to appear when you follow the money.
You should always take opportunity to talk about cancer rates associated with increased meat consumption. And didn't you have an episode that showed high meat consumption can cause diabetes.
@@CantEscapeFlorida True. I stand corrected. Keto is high fat and low carb. There are many sources of fat besides meat but only one healthful form - unsaturated fat. If your only source of fat were from plants then a Keto would be great though still lacking in fiber. However, followers of Keto have to replace whole fruits and and veggies - carbohydrates and fiber - with fat that is more often than not, dairy, and meat. Much like vgans who think they are doing right by eating only potato chips, many Keto advocates use the Keto "DIET" to eat mostly meat, egss, and dairy. If you have followed Dr. Greger for very long you know how unhealthful those are. I know seberal on Keto "diet" and 6 out 7 eat meat for their fat, not nuts, avacado, or other plant sources. if you ate only dairy and no meat, your increased risk of inflamatory diseases, cognitive impairment, and etc is not a rational decision. Atkins, the father of Keto diet, died an early death of heart disease.
What about time-restricted diets?
I eat breakfast at about 7AM, a snack and then dinner at 4PM, nothing else until breakfast. I didn't weigh myself but I did have to add more holes (three) to my belt as the inches melted. This was weight that I had been fighting for years. I'm 53 and had just given up thinking that I couldn't lose the weight because of my age. The diet as it had been before was pretty clean. No sodas, mostly water with low sugar intake. I did and still do have one teaspoon full of sugar per cup of coffee in the moring, mostly two cups sometimes three, outside of that no added sugar. The only differece in my diet was cutting off all calories after 4 PM. Also my energy better. I think it has something to do with insulin resistance. Not that I was diagnosed but if I did cheat and eat something sweat I noticed I started feeling strange afterward. Eyes would go out focus, and energy would be low.
Then, when their bacon caloric intake matches their new BMR, the infamous 'Keto weight-loss stall'.
Alyssa Stevens You clearly missed the point. Not surprised.
@@CarbageMan would of done it faster on plants
Alyssa Stevens uhh yes they most certainly are eating bacon..fat and butter. That’s the exact foods they think are healthy and say don’t cause heart disease
@@CarbageMan you seem to know an awful lot about insulin resistance for someone who knows nothing about insulin resistance www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4038351/ "Visceral adiposity correlates with excess lipid accumulation in liver....Excess accumulation of lipid may cause insulin resistance through cell autonomous mechanisms" do you think plant-based diets cause more lipid accumulation in the liver than, I dunno, a fat-based diet?
Reimund Harris Sugar causes fatty liver; you stop eating carbs (particularly sugar) liver fat goes down in a matter of days. You don’t get liver fat by eating fat.
Been waiting for this video topic. Many deep thanks!
Thank you for this!
I’m no expert, but I know it is misleading to point out the loss in muscle mass. From my understanding, this loss is a temporary reduction in glycogen stores and water mass in the muscles. It’s not a loss of actual muscle fibers.
Jakob Davenport - Nice theory, but...’Body composition changes were measured by dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry’.
@@megavegan5791 That's probably extremely accurate, I realize that. I'm only calling into question the assumptions of his evaluation of the experiment. Does lower muscle mass truly mean that strength has been permanently lost? This, and the other point people have been bringing up in the comments, that ketosis takes a while to start up on a keto diet, leaves me still unable to rule out the keto diet as a potentially healthy option.
Waiting for this for so long. thank you Doctor
At last the truth is out hope it saves life’s 👍👍👍
On the low carb diet HDL increased and triglycerides decreased relative to the low fat diet. On the low carbohydrate diet one tends to reduce calories naturally because one feels fuller for longer. Lowering baseline insulin is associated with lower general inflammation
Finally some clarity on this matter!
Jones - exactly! 👏🤡I love when he “puts it to the test” AKA, gives us his opinion on the matter! 🥼🤡(he doesn’t ever “test” anything, which is actually quite brilliant! just GIVE us the clarity, and move on!)
@@charathcutestory he gave his opinion on nothing, he literally just read straight test results and data from actual studies, which is a lot more credible than using clown emojis to get his point across 🤡🤡
I think that a major reason for keto is the increase in whole food consumption due to people consuming less processed foods. Not everyone is the same, but I noticed a radical change in my eating patterns when I switched to keto, which result to be very healthy. I used to eat tonnes of sugar on a daily basis and before going keto (vegetarian keto) it seemed impossible to stop. Even though the weight loss may be statistically smaller on a keto diet, it can lead to a change in behaviour that on a regular low-fat diet may not work for everyone.
Yes, I think that too. A lot of people who are ex-vegetarian or ex-vegan thought that they can eat everything except animal products, which is not the right way how to do it at all. People should follow whole plant based diet without eating ultra processed foods, including sugar, foods with high sodium and refined vegetable oils. And people also tend to exclude possible allergens when following ketogenic diet.
I said it before and I will say it again: if you are on keto, try to slowly add back some vegetables like potato and fruits like banana and so on, slowly, and see how you feel. Consuming the same amount of calories.
@@NamFlow “a lot of people who are ex-vegetarian or ex-vegan thought that they can eat everything except for animal products” nope, that’s false, most if not all ex-vegans ate raw food diets, avoiding whole food groups like grains and legumes or even nuts and seeds, they were restricting fat and calories and also did other things like fasting, colonics, drinking alkaline water, drinking urine
So the subjects first had a "regular diet" for four weeks, on a calorie deficit. After this they switched to the ketogenic diet for four weeks? Wouldn't the fact that they already had been on a calorie deficient diet for four weeks before switching to the ketogenic diet have an effect on the results? Why not conclude the study with two groups going simultaneously and comparing the results with different diets?
You'd have to and the keto proponents who funded the study why they didn't do it that way. Maybe they were each too busy taking millions of dollars of the donated money to worry about the study's methods.
I think you're right. The only way to lose weight on carbs is to constantly be very hungry...but with keto...not hard. On both you cut food intake but much better results on keto. Also not losing muscle. Was vegan for a year and keto for a year. Difference was vegan year; I pooped all the time and had digestive issues, larger belly and skinny elsewhere, but low ldl.
Keto year; triglycerides when down to only 51 and HDL increased to 55, however ldl went higher than vegan. PSA went down 25%, on keto with higher D3; A1C stayed about the same on both, but glucose went from 99 to 91 on keto. Also, smaller waist size, and less pounds on keto. Check out Peter Attia interviews (youtube) or his podcast, to get the truth. A big fan of Kreiger, but is a self reported animal rights advocate, so not completely unbiased in searching for/selecting exculpatory studies for keto.
You have to use the same subjects.
Watching this while eating my super delicious dinner that is about 90% carbs.... 😄
To be fair, and to be honest because I don't really know much about the ketogenic diet except for being extremely low carbohydrates, what if that study had used the same amount of calories in both groups but altered the macronutrients ratio in the low carb group to contain enough protein so the metabolism wouldn't burn lean muscle mass off before it began to break down more of the available fats for metabolic energy when deprived of carbohydrates? I thought it was just like we were always told if no calories are available from diet, i.e. fasting, the body will first burn stored glycogen, then stored fat maybe with a little glucose mixed in around the fat cells, and then, once all the glucose and fat cells are gone, lastly, and only then, breaking down muscle tissue to the point of emaciation.
But I think that would be false. Because you hear how on very low calorie diets people lose muscle mass too, even before all the fat disappears.
IMHO keto is more low carb than high fat
Low carb is high fat automatically, unless the diet is too low in calories. Low fat and low carb would be hunger or starvation
True keto is supposed to be low protein to to avoid stimulating insulin, so it has to be high fat.
Your personal version may be. The purest form of keto is a lot of meat, a lot of fat, a bit of protein, hardly any carb. A healthy diet on the other hand includes lots of fiber, which means a variety of vegetables, beans and nuts. What the two have in common: get rid of processed carbs (white bread, chips, sweets, sugary drinks etc.)
Thousands of people have reversed their type 2 diabetes, cholesterol, high blood pressure, PCOS, infertility...the list goes on...by going on a low carbohydrate diet. Cutting out sugar and grains is the healthiest thing you can do for yourself.
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Love your content doc, Nutrition nerds rule!
Thank you very much! 💜
Thank you so much for this awesome video!! People really need to hear the science on the matter. There are people who lose lots of weight on keto, but you are right about the caloric deficient. One person I know who did keto for a period of time paired it with intermittent fasting and lost so much weight while not being hungry at all. I don't think it's because carbs were making her fat, but instead because she was not eating enough. She also did lose muscle, especially in her legs and is now trying to get that back.
Edit: (Sorry I forgot to finish the story) She is now, thankfully, off keto because her cholesterol went so high that her doctors wanted her on statins.
(Explanation of the post. Sorry): All of this to say, the keto diet worked for weight loss, but she lost muscle too and she is now trying to get that back. She also mentioned that she was not hungry and people around the gym were worried about how much she was eating. So, all of this to say that this study is absolutely true. I have seen it happen.
Yes it "works" but it's a fad diet. You can't be on it for life (or even long term), or it will make you sick if not kill you. All of the studies say this is true, even for children who have to be on the diet due to seizures.
@@Skweepa Yes. I completely agree with that. That's the point I was trying to make with my story. Thank you for summarizing it better.
Based on your explanation it's obvious why your friend lost muscle... she wasnt eating enough, regardless of tje diet (keto, paleo, vegan, whatever) the body will degrade the muscles to compensate for the lack of food.
Personally since I started keto I gained more muscle and strenght but I'm very conscious of my food... bacon or proccesed meats are big no no for me, instead I prefer avocado and spinach to supplement my (real, unprocessed, grass fed) meat.
@@justbreathe549 That was probably part of it. The scary thing though was that her doctors want her on statins now.
My suggestion be wary of things. I like the fact that you are focusing on plant fats more than animal fats, but I will also say that there is tarting to be research to suggest that saturated fat does not have the harmful effect in our body when we get our protien from plants. Just something to think about. Have a lovely day!
@@RabbitFoodFitness While I'm on keto I do not advocate for only animal fats... it makes a really poor diet choice to believe bacon and stuff like that will keep you healthy in the long run. Anyone who tries to say different is just fucking insane.
Funny thing is that since I started this life style (I refuse to call it diet, that word takes me back to my teen years when I only followed insane crash diets like detox juice) I started to eat even more vegetables than before... sounds crazy, right? Thing is now I eat spinach, cauliflower, broccoli... stuff I used to hate and now can't live without (try to take my friday cauliflower pizza from me and I guarantee a painful and slow death for you lol)
I believe that no matter what you chose (vegan, paleo, keto, whatever) the key focus should be on healthy food... not the processed shit the industry likes to call food.
Lovely day for you too :)
If you lose water weight in your muscles wouldn’t you also lose “mass” in your muscles?
How's that job at Nakatomi Tower working out?
This horrible garbage killed my mom. She was influenced to try keto by that article, and died of a massive heart attack. She had been eating plant-based some years prior and was doing well, then all of the "butter is good" misleading information was all over the place, so she decided to try "keto".
Lite Hold that’s horrible, I’m so sorry. I am worried about my ketro friend too.
@@sidilicious11 - thank you. Keto is very damaging, I hope your friend comes to her senses.
@Peter Rabitt - It is criminal what these people are doing. I hope you win, and thank you for helping victims of "Keto".
I think the best way to lower insulin levels in the body is to exercise honestly and avoid the trashy carbs from junk food.
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Loving these keto videos! Keep the great work coming, Dr. G!
Incredible video
Would this apply to a vegan on a vegan ketogenic diet? Peta has vegan keto stuff on their site and on Amazon there are vegan keto cookbooks etc.
Thank you so much, Dr. Greger. Sorry you have to waste your time explaining the obvious.
nothing is obvious until you put it to the test.
@Bruce Leroy Come into the light.
@Bruce Leroy triggered? :p
@Bruce Leroy Dr. Greger read this, as you and I can. He's never ran, been part of a clinical practice of weight loss, or any other that we know of. He's a researcher. I personally am against the keto diet, and have kept in shape for decades the old fashion way, good diet and exercise, but the science still isn't clear. So many are reporting large amounts of weight loss, reversal of diabetes, off blood pressure meds, etc., and we still don't know why. You can't just loose 40, 50, 60 or more pounds of "muscle and water." All we have are bits and pieces of the "science."
I personally know of a man who lost nearly 100 pounds. We can all speculate as to it could have this, or it could have been that, but that's not good enough. To convince a formerly obese man on 6 different meds, now taking none, who's lost 100 lbs that what he's doing is wrong with a 6 minute video just doesn't cut it. Obesity is a very complex and not yet fully understood symptom, and varies greatly from person to person. Keto is as popular as vegan these days, and not because people like to eat fat.
You're making the same mistake as many keto proponents: to blindly assume what you think is correct. Better keep an open mind.
I hope Dr. Greger also will explain other downsides of keto, like possible gut flora defecation (?) or other process in the body that are hampered..
Triggered keto hate in 3, 2, 1....
@@LaurenBurger human cells literally run on carbohydrates and you claim a diet that forces them to run on something else is "truth"
I think you are the man love the research
Brace yourselves, subscribers . . . . .
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