Bastion Got A Buff, So How Good Is It?

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  • @Thatguy-rc2ei
    @Thatguy-rc2ei 3 місяці тому +500

    FINALLY SOMEONE IS TAKING A LOOK. I noticed it did nearly 5k damage per pellet and it shoots 21 pellets, so big damage. THANK YOU FOR TAKING A LOOK

    • @Savage-Destiny
      @Savage-Destiny 3 місяці тому +4

      Does more with WormGods and pairs perfectly with it… 😏

    • @ixxcerberusxxihoundofhell8162
      @ixxcerberusxxihoundofhell8162 3 місяці тому +5

      I was using this through my hunter playthrough on the final shape with the esteemed liars handshake build. Having huge chunk damage at my disposal on a weapon being buffed from my play style was awesome

    • @moosemusicofficial
      @moosemusicofficial 3 місяці тому +2

      Why...do you want people to look? If you notice it's good.. cool? Use it then. But the more attention you draw to it, the more likely it gets nerfed and you now no longer have a reason to like it. I have never understood people like you.

    • @alexknight81
      @alexknight81 3 місяці тому +7

      ​@@moosemusicofficialbecause they want other people to see that is good? I don't think thats unreasonable? And I'm regards to your other point, if it's broken Bungie will probably notice regardless of how long it takes them to do something about it, if it's not broken theres still a chance something can be done about it(YAS as an example) , in the end, it doesn't matter, play with your weapons and armor as if a nerf is going to come to them soon or don't, it's pointless either way

    • @TheLloydLightning
      @TheLloydLightning 3 місяці тому +8

      ​@@moosemusicofficialHe may want other people to enjoy it too. It's a wild concept I know.

  • @DerultimativeOzzy
    @DerultimativeOzzy 3 місяці тому +358

    A gun that can rival Still Hunt and probably Euphony... That's 3 special ammo weapons with amazing damage output. If Bungie is calling in a special ammo weapon as DPS meta, I'm honestly all in for that. Since Titan's don't have as much fun with either Euphony or Still Hunt, this gun might be the go to pick then. Put on Second Chance gauntlets for 2 throwing shields which will weaken as well and you should be good to go on some solid utility and damage

    • @DesignatedHealer
      @DesignatedHealer 3 місяці тому +32

      Take me back to the days of Calus damage with merciless and coldheart

    • @wowprobeast7543
      @wowprobeast7543 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DesignatedHealeru mean 6 Goldie guns with for tracer

    • @DesignatedHealer
      @DesignatedHealer 3 місяці тому

      @@wowprobeast7543 or even rally barricade rockets lol

    • @choloeseguay
      @choloeseguay 3 місяці тому +2

      Bro…that’s the move

    • @looksnormal
      @looksnormal 3 місяці тому +12

      ​@@wowprobeast7543 foetracer change was way after leviathan was vaulted

  • @life-destiny1196
    @life-destiny1196 3 місяці тому +195

    Whisper of Impetus shurikens kinda lookin like a snack rn

    • @arjunbaweja7755
      @arjunbaweja7755 3 місяці тому +3

      2:35 sadly

    • @SoulFire9001
      @SoulFire9001 3 місяці тому +42

      @@arjunbaweja7755 you misunderstood. In that clip he was testing to see if the "Saint's Fists" buff would buff the damage of ranged melee abilities. What OP is talking about is using the shurikens to proc "Saint's Fury" which is the gun damage portion of the perk, and comboing it with whisper of impetus to auto reload it

    • @CleopatraKing
      @CleopatraKing 3 місяці тому +5

      Comb blow making this thing a champ one shotter

    • @fluentgamer8611
      @fluentgamer8611 3 місяці тому +12

      @@CleopatraKingplus liars, kinda curious of the interaction since regular 1-2 punch is nerfed when using liars I wonder how this interacts.

    • @zorpglorp
      @zorpglorp 3 місяці тому

      @@fluentgamer8611it seems to be copy pasted from 1-2 punch so i would not be surprised if it didn't work

  • @TheeMurkShow
    @TheeMurkShow 3 місяці тому +39

    Not gonna lie I was confused when I didn't hear crosses voice. 😂 That thumbnail tricked me

  • @tobym8820
    @tobym8820 3 місяці тому +143

    its melee damage increase is functionally identical to 1-2p, but it has a much longer duration at 2.7s vs 1-2p's 1.2s, long enough to let you boost shoulder charge with it once more! yippee
    EDIT: since people in the replies seem confused, 1-2p does not boost the following melees; bastion wont either. Titan: Consecration, Flechette, Thunderclap, Shield Throw. Warlock: Literally everything that isnt Chain Lightning, tragic. Hunter: Proxy Knife and Snare Bomb's aoe damage (impact will be but who cares), Tempest Strike, Withering Blade, Threaded Spike.
    source for all your handy dandy destiny 2 information is the D2 Data Compendium, highly recommend bookmarking it

    • @tiagonicolodi2237
      @tiagonicolodi2237 3 місяці тому +32

      Damn, bastion + peregrine greaves + void overshield with the aspect that buffs melee damage might be crazy

    • @Jowil1030
      @Jowil1030 3 місяці тому +1

      What about consecration?

    • @wethepeople8280
      @wethepeople8280 3 місяці тому +10

      @@tiagonicolodi2237what are you guys talking about. Bastion only buffs unpowered melees

    • @Green-wq7vb
      @Green-wq7vb 3 місяці тому +7

      @@wethepeople8280 Do we know that it - only - boosts unpowered melees? Llama tested a *ranged* melee, but not a powered contact-melee ability like shoulder charge. Minor difference, I know, but Bungie has lots of little quirks for things that do and don't work like that...

    • @tylertex
      @tylertex 3 місяці тому +1

      @@wethepeople8280is that true? I genuinely want to know. Bastion’s perk doesn’t specify and the video states that it works similar to 1-2 punch in that it doesn’t buff ranged melees, but 1-2 punch still buffs charged melees such as combination blow. The recent nerf to shoulder charge was that you now can’t slide then shoot 1-2 punch shotty then charge but a longer buff timer may give time to generate the shoulder charge, is what the above comment is saying. I just don’t know so I’m wondering

  • @evo3481
    @evo3481 3 місяці тому +51

    If you use song of flame at the start of the damage phase you get around 90% dr so you don’t need anyone to keep you alive. Also song of flame states that kinetic and solar weapons apply scorch so you can increase your damage even further with scorch and the eventual ignitions

    • @peterdubinsky5389
      @peterdubinsky5389 3 місяці тому

      Thank you❤

    • @James-ji8yz
      @James-ji8yz 3 місяці тому

      Thought it was 50% dr?

    • @alberb
      @alberb 3 місяці тому

      ​@@James-ji8yz probably prismatic stacks with song

    • @mrthor3061
      @mrthor3061 3 місяці тому +1

      @@James-ji8yz 90% for the caster 30% for teammates.

  • @itgetsdajobdone
    @itgetsdajobdone 3 місяці тому +86

    I've been maining Bastion since the buffs, absolutely huge

    • @ImHimBroTrustMe
      @ImHimBroTrustMe 3 місяці тому +2

      Hard lie

    • @VD1461
      @VD1461 3 місяці тому +6

      loud incorrect buzzer

    • @pcoverthink
      @pcoverthink 3 місяці тому +1

      I never used it before and I haven't had a good one-two punch shoty so I got a few 100s kills on it lol. Seemed really good on grapple hunter with no navigator

    • @RM-lu2of
      @RM-lu2of 3 місяці тому +1

      I love it as a Titan who still answers questions with her fists this is something I love to see ❤❤❤

    • @CHEA7CODE
      @CHEA7CODE 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@RM-lu2oftitan main here, what's your set up with titan and bastion?

  • @kalebmoody-felix7896
    @kalebmoody-felix7896 3 місяці тому +19

    Also something to note is that if your mele applies scorch (celestial fire, incinerator snap, knife trick, hammer strike, base mele with roaring flame, etc.) Each scorch tick will refresh the saint's fury buff

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste 3 місяці тому +2

      So on Warlock, could you pair that with Helion and only have to use the first melee for the entire phase?

    • @Icarus-13
      @Icarus-13 2 місяці тому +1

      @@hhaste Hellion will cause an ignition pretty quickly but it might extend it for a little bit.

  • @gommyboi380
    @gommyboi380 3 місяці тому +5

    I know with one two punch that when you are using lairs handshake one two punch goes from a 2x multiplier to a much lower multiplier. Does saints fists work like this or no?

    • @blackquevon
      @blackquevon 3 місяці тому +1

      I have the same question. Might be a worthy work around

  • @Cody-ih8ee
    @Cody-ih8ee 3 місяці тому +20

    song of flame makes kinetic damage scorch and ignite while active, could be epic

    • @flopino
      @flopino 3 місяці тому

      Combine with dawn chaurus for more scorch

    • @rijsmiddel8765
      @rijsmiddel8765 3 місяці тому +2

      I could never get an ignition to proc with Song-buffed kinetic weapons, Idk if they only apply a single scorch per hit or what

    • @mrthor3061
      @mrthor3061 3 місяці тому +1

      @@rijsmiddel8765if you aren’t on actual solar with the fragment that increase scorch stacks it’s hard asf to get an ignition

  • @heretomars
    @heretomars 3 місяці тому +35

    damn whoever that Jude guy is sure COOKED at the end 🔥🚒

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  3 місяці тому +11

      He really did!

    • @andvan5171
      @andvan5171 3 місяці тому +2

      He kinda cheated he used Needlestorm. :b

  • @Dinoguy7719
    @Dinoguy7719 3 місяці тому +23

    Makes me wonder if it can 1-shot the fuses in Crypt Security in DSC now.

    • @ukemi-
      @ukemi- 3 місяці тому +1

      Doubt it, it could just barely 3 burst a fuse before. Maybe it could 2 burst now, or with the charge time reduction it’ll 3 burst much faster.

    • @Dinoguy7719
      @Dinoguy7719 3 місяці тому

      @@ukemi- It could 2-burst before if you had a buff of some kind (Well, Bubble, etc.)

    • @mrthor3061
      @mrthor3061 3 місяці тому +1

      just use wardcliff? it still one shots

    • @ukemi-
      @ukemi- 3 місяці тому

      @@mrthor3061 eager sword for zooming to other room for fuses, and wardcliff has a chance of hitting the wrong fuse and causing a wipe.

    • @ILYKona
      @ILYKona 2 місяці тому

      @@ukemi- skill issue if you hit the other fuses. Just know where to stand properly.

  • @SlimeyZockt
    @SlimeyZockt 3 місяці тому +18

    I was using it before in a Felwinters Melee build since a year now, but I am so happy it got buffed aswell

  • @shieldfrostbyte6194
    @shieldfrostbyte6194 3 місяці тому +37

    We tested it with banner of war Titan instead and managed to get 3.6 million

    • @Ibrahim-ho7bu
      @Ibrahim-ho7bu 3 місяці тому

      What was the method

    • @shieldfrostbyte6194
      @shieldfrostbyte6194 3 місяці тому +10

      @@Ibrahim-ho7bu just standard one two punch strand Titan but with bastion instead , we used wormgods

    • @yourbrojohno
      @yourbrojohno 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@shieldfrostbyte6194so grapple melee? I'm thinking cause the gun itself does so much DMG and grapple melees long animation time just the normal melee ability might be better. Just melee each time after shooting 5 shots.

    • @plinplinplon9530
      @plinplinplon9530 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@yourbrojohno I don't think that grapple melee is the way, just charged melee at the end of depleting your magazine, and since that you are using strand you could also equip Thread of ascent to instantly reload bastion with just using grapple on the floor.

    • @fleefie
      @fleefie 2 місяці тому

      Yerp, this is literally the Titan version of Warlock's Euphony and Hunter's Nighthawk. And no one is talking about this.
      But Titans are useless for DPS guys

  • @stormx498
    @stormx498 3 місяці тому +2

    We're really sailing towards our guardians death aren't we? Our supposed favourite weapon, Bastion, got a buff. We have the Ergo Sum sword that's placed upon our grave. Saint-14 is back.

  • @alcapone117
    @alcapone117 3 місяці тому +9

    I've been using it on every single thing that has unstoppable's, melts everything

  • @scarletsun04
    @scarletsun04 3 місяці тому +10

    im kinda curious if it could maybe cook a bit with song of flame + maybe the ses class item? or maybe just normal solar lock but just the sof bastion combo sounds interesting 🤔

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  3 місяці тому +5

      If only I had the class item to test this 😥

    • @axemafia2325
      @axemafia2325 3 місяці тому

      ​@@LlamaD2i have ses warlock. Dont have it with apotherosis tho

    • @justinparnell3319
      @justinparnell3319 3 місяці тому

      I have a necrotic+star eater warlock bond. Have not used it yet tbh but Ive seen some damage testing and it cooks

  • @zferolie
    @zferolie 3 місяці тому +3

    fyi bastion does buff grapple punch damage, so on hunter on a close range boss you can loop bastion shots and grapple punches thanks to grapple point and do some crazy damage. Been pairing it with assassins cowl so i gain some safety after i nuke a champ or major with the combo.

    • @wethepeople8280
      @wethepeople8280 3 місяці тому

      If so then you could use navigator to shoot a grapple point. Swap to bastion. Then on prismatic pop transcendence, smoke boss for weaken, spam grenade on boss, have 5% prismatic bonus damage and dr, and have class item with calibans/ synthocepts.
      You should it works? Idk how that wouldn’t be better known by now

    • @johnflory3306
      @johnflory3306 3 місяці тому

      ​@wethepeople8280 this is less burst because you get less melees out, so less damage. That's why it isn't known. It's worse.
      Also you don't weaken with a grenade for 15% when tether gives 30%.

    • @zferolie
      @zferolie 3 місяці тому

      @@wethepeople8280 ehh that seems like a little too much work for not a huge increase of damage like the other said. i think just strand hunter with assassins and bastian should be good enough

    • @wethepeople8280
      @wethepeople8280 3 місяці тому

      @@zferoliean extra 100% bonus damage isn’t much? lol. This setup is for dungeon bosses to be soloed and such. Synthocepts on hunter puts in work because of stylish executioner. And yeah I forgot the tether is needed to work which another comment above reminded me of and also gives larger bonus damage of 30% debuff

    • @zferolie
      @zferolie 3 місяці тому

      I mean, you lose your melee and grenade energywhen you do a swap like that dont you? I never do big swaps like this myself so dont know all the details.
      Id rather hit them woth a dagger for sever so they hit me for less, then fire the fusion, then grapple the ground near by to get the point and punch, then go at fusion grapple combo

  • @User-wl3gn
    @User-wl3gn 3 місяці тому +3

    I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who felt a change in the force. The second the season started I had this funny feeling where I was like I wonder if bastion got a buff. And aye I guess there was 🎉

  • @ethand-db1hp
    @ethand-db1hp 11 днів тому +1

    An idea I have for the catalyst would be “saints fists last longer and can stack up to 3 times” at times 3 it would be a 5x melee dmage buff instead of a 2x normally and I wanted it to last longer so I can reliably use it with something like shoulder charge, Shiver Strike, or Thunderclap.

  • @spartanking1526
    @spartanking1526 3 місяці тому +3

    I put bastion on my warlock and was absolutely cooking with it. I love this thing

  • @gavo7911
    @gavo7911 3 місяці тому +4

    THANK YOU for doing this, I was super curious how Bastion’s rework came out but nobody else had made a video on it! Out of curiosity, do you think that Bastion now rivals Conditional Finality as the close range damage king for special weapons? Especially since they’re both anti-unstoppable. I imagine CF has more utility for elements, but Bastion might have the edge for raw output.

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  3 місяці тому +2

      It does kinda hit like a truck to be fair, hard to gauge but it's definitely a lot better now compared to before!

  • @yourbrojohno
    @yourbrojohno 3 місяці тому +2

    I think this would be the perfect pairing for wishfull ignorance, you should be able to regen a melee charge every few shots and contine proccing the buff while also having a good dmg melee that this can buff. That its to say on hunter with combination blow liars handshake or synthos this could also go hard.

  • @tcritty2812
    @tcritty2812 3 місяці тому +5

    Been using this with combination blow hunter. Majors never stood a chance

    • @pkbenzene
      @pkbenzene 3 місяці тому

      So we can stack Bastion buffs with combination blow, hmm...*looks at my Caliban-Synthos Exotic Cloak* - oh, oh my!

    • @k2s33y
      @k2s33y 3 місяці тому

      @@pkbenzeneyep even one two punch it’s a close range melee, and regular melees count as powered if you have combination blow active so it’s perfect

  • @chrisberg7862
    @chrisberg7862 3 місяці тому +1

    Definitely gonna pair this with my wishful ignorance build

  • @montaguecox8729
    @montaguecox8729 3 місяці тому +4

    I’m curious. Does anyone know how this stacks with synthoceps? Is it like One Two punch where it doesn’t get the full benefit? Or is it more OP?

    • @reeidly
      @reeidly 3 місяці тому

      If it works like 1-2 punch, I assume it gets scaled down when using liars and synthos

    • @eratheoracle
      @eratheoracle 3 місяці тому +4

      synthos and 1-2 do fully stack with each other, its synthos and banner that don't. Liar's is the exotic that nerfs the effectiveness of 1-2 punch, but you'd have a pretty hard time performing a cross counter if you have to fire a whole bastion shot between each melee, so even if they do stack perfectly it's much less feasible and probably worse to do so in that case

  • @CephalonTempest
    @CephalonTempest 3 місяці тому +1

    How would this work with that strand melee thing going on right now?

  • @kilickmarsh2793
    @kilickmarsh2793 7 днів тому +1

    I actually discovered a neat interaction with pyrogales infinitly procking saints fury

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  7 днів тому +1

      Oh that's cool!

  • @extabytez3148
    @extabytez3148 3 місяці тому +3

    I had no idea Bastion got a buff. I’m so happy it got one because this gun is genuinely so fun

  • @ravenatort
    @ravenatort 3 місяці тому +2

    Your buddy yelling "HOLY SHIT" made my night

    • @heretomars
      @heretomars 3 місяці тому +2

      he just can't be stopped.

  • @Real_0rigin
    @Real_0rigin 3 місяці тому +1

    I like that each class has a special exotic weapon that benefits from being on said class. Still hunt gets Celestial, Euphony gets Strand Warlock, and now seemingly Bastion will benefit most from a BoW Titan.
    I'll say that Bastion will probably benefit most when paired with the new Wishful Ignorance to keep charging melee's to feed back into Bastions perks.

  • @skyfiredraco
    @skyfiredraco 3 місяці тому +2

    oh wow, this buff flew completely under my radar. I don't think I've had Bastion out of the vault in years.
    I've been running a prismatic warlock with a variety of incandescent weapons and a special in my primary slot (been addicted to the Call rocket sidearm lately) but I think I might have to slot this in for funzies now :)
    The gun intrinsically stuns unstoppable champions too... so a boss/yellow bar melting weapon that covers a champion too. Very interesting...
    cheers man :)

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  3 місяці тому +1

      No problem!

  • @thewaffle4049
    @thewaffle4049 3 місяці тому +1

    It would be insane if they gave this the origin trait from the revamped dawn weapons as a catalyst

  • @InsomniacSrategies
    @InsomniacSrategies 3 місяці тому +1

    Man I completely wrote off the buff but this is an amazing breakdown! Definitely going to try it in some GM runs!

  • @JoelAwesome2
    @JoelAwesome2 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video mate! Saint -14 cosplay build incoming 😅

  • @leDevLV
    @leDevLV 3 місяці тому +1

    Finally it has spotlight... It cooks with arcane needles

  • @Erosmaximus
    @Erosmaximus 3 місяці тому +1

    Is this a viable gun to use in the warlock felwinters prismatic lighting surge build or nah?

  • @LegitLizard
    @LegitLizard 3 місяці тому +1

    You sir.. you have earned a new subscriber, very well made video thank you

  • @John_President
    @John_President 3 місяці тому +1

    Also song of flame will make it apply scorch on hit as well as have a ton of fairly high damage melees each reload. Not sure how much that adds but I def want to test that lol

  • @snometro
    @snometro 3 місяці тому

    Hear me out
    Prismatic Titan with Shield Throw Melee
    Bastion
    Second Chance (Grants Weaken & /Anti-Barrier + 1 extra shield throw)
    Expanding Abyss
    Shieldcrush

  • @hammyboi891
    @hammyboi891 3 місяці тому +1

    My question is if Bastion has enough range to reach out and hit Witness during dps!

  • @commentingchannel9776
    @commentingchannel9776 3 місяці тому

    I saw a clip not too long ago of someone who was able to stack Saint's Fury and Peregrine Greaves with Shield Bash, leading to a ~600K hit. This person said it also works with the other shoulder charges, notably Hammer Strike, which is available on Prismatic and can hence recharge multiple times during a damage phase with Transcendence. From what I saw in that post, the timing is very tight, but doable. Could someone test this and see if it could be done over the course of an entire damage phase?

  • @Staxx_NZ
    @Staxx_NZ 3 місяці тому +1

    I was looking at this yesterday. Yay!!

  • @kostas13524
    @kostas13524 3 місяці тому +1

    2:41 how can you see him marked through walls?

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  3 місяці тому +1

      It's because I was using Mataiodoxia

  • @Lose-Yourself-To-Dance
    @Lose-Yourself-To-Dance 3 місяці тому

    Shouldn't Song of Flame have really good DPS with Bastion?
    You have constant melees, you proc Radiant for allies, your pellets scorch.

  • @bbagginsmcswaggins
    @bbagginsmcswaggins 3 місяці тому

    Llama mentioned consecration towards the end, but only said that it increases gun damage. Does anyone know if bastion buffs consecration damage? Been wanting to use it that way, haven't had a chance to test. Intrinsic unstop weapon w/ range that acts like a 1-2 punch weapon for consecration sounds wild.

  • @firstnamelastname4752
    @firstnamelastname4752 3 місяці тому

    Omg finally a high-damage k-slot exotic special other than Ager's! Only costs a cypher, no raiding required, simple to proc, let's gooooo

  • @taylorpierson8355
    @taylorpierson8355 3 місяці тому

    What I heard was titan gun make me punch harder which I like punchy so shooty gun does punchy things.
    Shoot=equal more damage=equals more fun

  • @Vahloksavjul
    @Vahloksavjul 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey Llama I know you’re working on a damage rotation series/video I was wondering if you knew any good rotations for prismatic warlock now facet of command is pretty dookie :/ I’m still hoping it gets buffed up again but in the mean I’m wondering there’s anything incorporating SES nova?

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  3 місяці тому +2

      Haven't tested any Nova rotations yet but I posted a vid yesterday with a pretty potent rotation, check it out :D

  • @aelfgernon7729
    @aelfgernon7729 3 місяці тому

    curious how the dps is on a boss you can melee, alternating shots and neutral melees, like 2nd encounter SE or the knight boss in GOTD. Or what is the ideal mix of shots and melees.

  • @dannyyoroi1955
    @dannyyoroi1955 3 місяці тому

    Tanika dps was just diabolical, understandable with buffs and all but 60k PER PELLET IS WILD

  • @grenade_37
    @grenade_37 3 місяці тому

    Man we really habe to test on Karl... He's a MINIBOSS, And some stuff don't scale the same way on bosses and minibosses 😭

  • @RussL123
    @RussL123 3 місяці тому +1

    Can u stack with both 1-2 punch and this melee buff, like switch from bastion after proc-ing then switch to a one two shotty?

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  3 місяці тому +1

      Sadly not

  • @kishan20101
    @kishan20101 3 місяці тому +1

    These video art looks like aztecross. Lol

  • @MeanMachineRAF
    @MeanMachineRAF 3 місяці тому

    does lightning surge aspect work as a close melee?
    PS: I have an exo bond with spirit of necrotics and syntocep :-P

  • @theguywhoasked2520
    @theguywhoasked2520 Місяць тому

    It should have a catalyst, where it should have its spread be tighter and a SLIIIGHTLY faster charge time at base

  • @gibster9624
    @gibster9624 3 місяці тому

    Used it to get through the legend campaign solo. Absolutely chomps the subjugators. Not so good for Tormentors but it was easy enough to swap to forerunner so no big deal.

  • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
    @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 3 місяці тому +1

    So about the ranged melee: It might be more complicated, specifically with Threaded Spike for Hunters. I've been noticing that the stasis melee doesn't proc the new Dawn weapon origin trait to reload the mag HOWEVER Threaded Spike will proc it *every time it bounces and hits another enemy*.
    I didn't really look too much into it but hearing you bring up the ranged melee stuff here reminded me of that and I wonder if Threaded Spike is coded to act as a powered close range melee despite being ranged. Could be the case for 1 2 punch as well.

    • @Narfwak
      @Narfwak 3 місяці тому

      hunter powered melees usually work with 1-2-P even if they're ranged; all the solar knives do, I think threaded spike does, not sure about withering blade

  • @Ima9ineBreak3r
    @Ima9ineBreak3r 3 місяці тому

    This is... very surprising. I've always been a sucker for fusion rifles, but this is kinda bonkers.

  • @jimmcmeen761
    @jimmcmeen761 3 місяці тому +1

    Does it still stun unstoppable champs?

  • @volttrain
    @volttrain 3 місяці тому

    Why dont combine bastion with wormgod ? It should me a crazy melee/ranged dps in close up scenarios 🤔🙃

  • @Aj-py8en
    @Aj-py8en 3 місяці тому +1

    Does 1-2 punch and or winters guile work with the song of flame melees? Both Celestial Fire and Incinerator Snap versions

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  3 місяці тому +1

      I didn't test but I know that Winter's Guile DOES work, but as far as OTP goes I don't think it does, it's a projectile melee so probably not.

  • @kobold_sushi_executive_chef
    @kobold_sushi_executive_chef 3 місяці тому +1

    How much does the charge time decrease with the buff active?

  • @Crushanator1
    @Crushanator1 3 місяці тому

    Bastion has been at my side for a while, having a very strong Fusion thats always Unstoppable is too fun to pass up in content with Champions for me

  • @mindquad668
    @mindquad668 3 місяці тому

    Man I was hoping for some more testing on the different warlock melee choices. Does Bastion work with the arc blink melee aspect?

  • @mitchellmolina9833
    @mitchellmolina9833 3 місяці тому

    Bastion is hella good now, on the consecration build, use bastion with titan strand melee for single target dps....and tbh you shoulda tested on titan....you missed out on half the weapon lol but good to see a bastion vid at all

  • @elmyst9108
    @elmyst9108 3 місяці тому +1

    Didn't know the arcane needle debuff marks targets...

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  3 місяці тому +1

      That's only because I was wearing Mataiodoxia!

    • @elmyst9108
      @elmyst9108 3 місяці тому

      @@LlamaD2 oooohhh

  • @Mickesch
    @Mickesch 3 місяці тому

    Swapping navigator to that on the prismatic grapple hunter, after you got the combo down. Free stonks

  • @_SimpleJack_
    @_SimpleJack_ 3 місяці тому

    I've been telling my clan about this weapon but for the past week and a half but nobody would listen...

  • @jakpote88
    @jakpote88 3 місяці тому

    Im just saying there is a fragment on prismatic that give you radiant for 5 second when you melee... thats even more damage

  • @krisdzeel6408
    @krisdzeel6408 3 місяці тому

    Idk what it is but bastion could be one of the best guns in the game and I probably wouldn't use it because it feels so slow and ass to use, for me personally.

  • @tomfoolery597
    @tomfoolery597 3 місяці тому

    I’ve never used bastion so apologies for being stupid but why does it say it’s got a 5 round mag but in game it’s only 4?

  • @Fusion_matricks
    @Fusion_matricks 3 місяці тому

    For the Punch hunter this thing is bonkers. I used it this morning and it hits like a freight train alongside combo blow x3

  • @SevenSkate37801
    @SevenSkate37801 3 місяці тому

    I assume the damge done to phyrizha was without the unravel debuff taken out am I correct?

  • @Solo_Shuckle
    @Solo_Shuckle 3 місяці тому

    I feel Stasis Hunter could be good with this, reloading and buffing Bastion, and dodge to get melees.

  • @billyli5477
    @billyli5477 3 місяці тому

    Is this worth using for a melee build tho? I feel like one two shotty would be more fluid. Idk might have to give bastion a try

  • @Domothedon9209
    @Domothedon9209 3 місяці тому

    Lol I never knew this needed a buff I always thought it was good personally but I guess I’m the only one lol

  • @blablasigh187
    @blablasigh187 3 місяці тому

    Are the buff's active in pvp? Also.., does the glaive melee proc bastion?

  • @failfurby
    @failfurby 3 місяці тому

    Holy shit... Might have to pull this gem out of collections. Does it work with the Grapple Melee?

  • @sergiobejaranoolivera1396
    @sergiobejaranoolivera1396 3 місяці тому

    Hmmm, I don't think it'll work but will it buff neceotic poison damage?

  • @fluxtheexo
    @fluxtheexo 3 місяці тому +1

    that popoff at the end was just as good as the cook

  • @Catalyst375
    @Catalyst375 3 місяці тому

    Bastion + Synthoceps. Your melees would deal massive damage.

  • @benjapk9538
    @benjapk9538 3 місяці тому

    I used this thing throughout the whole campaign and my mates said I was crazy til they actually saw the perk

  • @trich742
    @trich742 3 місяці тому +3

    Bastion pairs well with Prismatic hunter.
    Grapple melee + snare bomb + khepris sting.
    Grapple + khepris will proc the snare bomb on impact, and both melees will stack doubling damage plus apply both void weaken and strand unravel. Saints fists will double it again and proc the trench barrel part. You can then dodge with threaded spector, gain your melee back and leave an explosive clone which you can then take advantage of the 1-2 punched part of Bastion with your khepris snare melee.

  • @thatDavidMota
    @thatDavidMota 3 місяці тому

    Tried to use it in crucible last week, it does not spawn with special ammo after death in crucible ☹️

  • @sweatydjack4397
    @sweatydjack4397 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for reviewing it. I’m using it in my hunter now :)

  • @dionicius03
    @dionicius03 3 місяці тому

    a melee party and the titans aint invited. bungie really destroyed the Titan class and gave all the fun stuff away.

  • @NDRKEV
    @NDRKEV 3 місяці тому

    I wonder if you run combination blow with bastion and a one two punch shotgun will it stack?? 🤔

  • @roundraccoon6141
    @roundraccoon6141 3 місяці тому

    Thought this thing was good in the legend campaign. Didn't realize the damage increase was that high.

  • @jj_joergensen2200
    @jj_joergensen2200 3 місяці тому +1

    Algorithm ❤

  • @BrayFreezy
    @BrayFreezy 3 місяці тому

    Would be best on hunter if it works with combination blow and exotic class item with liars handshake

  • @TheMax107
    @TheMax107 3 місяці тому

    Can you make a vid on the nightfall linear and clarify if accelerated ionized batter or liquid coils is better

  • @WolfDragon6000
    @WolfDragon6000 3 місяці тому

    That hunter with the prismatic one punch Build & this weapon might be crazy

  • @itsLumosASMR
    @itsLumosASMR 3 місяці тому

    hunters have still hunt. warlocks have bastion. titans have... uh

  • @CephalonTempest
    @CephalonTempest 3 місяці тому

    I won't lie, I pulled out the bastion for competitive to get the new auto and I noticed it slapped alot harder then it use too

  • @Menderino
    @Menderino 3 місяці тому

    Does the buff even increase the damage the titan strand ult does? Or like Hunter melee supers

  • @superman15922
    @superman15922 3 місяці тому

    Wishful ignorance and Bastion suddenly looks really juicy.

  • @nottyler6776
    @nottyler6776 3 місяці тому

    Could the number have been higher if you went for precision dmg lol?

  • @highimbryan-1265
    @highimbryan-1265 3 місяці тому +1

    Herald of finality cook?

    • @PpTheGreatest
      @PpTheGreatest 3 місяці тому

      My thoughts exactly. Song of flame with star eaters Necrotic/HOIL, transcendence, only use melees to reproc shots. It should bake.

  • @HolaDoodle
    @HolaDoodle 3 місяці тому +2

    Does it still stun unstoppables? Or was that perk removed?

    • @adrimides6091
      @adrimides6091 3 місяці тому +1

      Still stuns

    • @LlamaD2
      @LlamaD2  3 місяці тому +2

      Yes it does!

    • @Thundax
      @Thundax 3 місяці тому +1

      It does indeed still stun unstops.