Glory to Jesus Christ! Thick eye-brows help...! But, yes... If you watch this on mute, I look crazy.... I have always been this twitchy. As I said to another guy, I took this to be a casual conversation. At least I gave a chance for amusement. I assure you, it's all just a kind of natural set of reactions on my part!
@@matthewminerd7693 I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation and sincerely loved your facial expressions. No sarcasm or insult meant by my comment! I teach a class on communication and try to get my students to be more expressive with their non-verbals...you are the perfect exemplar!
@@phoult37 Glory to Jesus Christ! I took no insult! But I try to be self-aware too. It's like MASSIVE non-verbal communication. There is a madness side to it. I don't see myself as a being an academic in the end, and just want to have conversations with folks. (Even when I teach, I tell my students that there is a real sense in which I don't feel like a professor - just a guy who loves theology and philosophy and happens right now to be teaching.) Thus, the fustiness of propriety is not my personality. I always have felt a bit like the kid raised in blue-collar Appalachia - eager and excited. Glad you enjoyed it! I really thought it was great to spend time with Matt. Peace, Matthew
Liturgy of the hours is my bread and butter. I own the single volume. Some people don't prefer it but I'm only praying morning and evening so it's a complete volume. It definitly keeps me grounded and gives my day a pinicle. Morning prayer at dawn before work. Evening prayer at dusk is how I do it.
Glory to Jesus Christ! Yes indeed! How wonderful a sanctification of the day. And the Psalter is almost like an entire reflection of the Gospel and of Christian experience! Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
I've been wanting to see this for ages. I love listening to Dr. Minerd on R&T and I'm glad he is getting to a bigger audience now, thanks to both of you. God bless!
Glory to Jesus Christ! But I have not abandoned R & T, I assure you! Just very busy of late. It's always like that during term... But, I need to get back over there to finish a whole series on things in the ST III. That sequence is tied up with a translation I have to edit. I have to conserve my time, so I'm going to use the editing of the Christology section as a chance to prep those lectures. Thanks for so kind a note! Blessings on your Lent!
Glory to Jesus Christ! I try to just do the interview as is - for good or ill. No doubt, for some, my hyper quirkiness in this interview was probably a bitter pill to swallow. But, I saw this as being just a kind of conversation, so I just let myself be casual. If it is any consolation, this is often what I'm like.... I've always been a bit twitchy by temperament! But, I love the content, and just had such a lovely time with Matt. Thus... Well, turtles and quirks all the way down! Many blessings! I need to get back over to R & T!
Glory to Jesus Christ! Thank you for the kind remark. I miss the gents over at R & T. Just busy, nothing else than that. I've gotta get back over there! Many blessings on your Lent!
I’ve only been attending TLM and now hearing about Byzantine mass and the vocabulary that goes with it is fascinating and overwhelming all at the same time.
Glory to Jesus Christ! I feel the same still after years! :-) I'm still learning the ropes, having myself been raised in the West! Many blessings to you and yours for the Lenten season!
15 minutes in and I think my head is going to explode. I'm a protestant with no Catholic background, so much of this is way over my head, and yet it's briskly intriguing.
There's a lot to systematic theology. I don't claim to be a theologian, but if there are any questions you have or clarifications you want, I can give you an answer or point you in the right direction.
Glory to Jesus Christ! Thanks, dear brother in Christ, for stopping by! Yes, it was kind of "wheels right on the ground" full speed from the start! I hope that something was edifying. You might find the section from around the 1 hour mark until the break most applicable. I'm always available at my website contact form if you want to reach out to ask questions about the Catholic faith! Many blessings to you and yours as we enter Lent and prepare to celebrate the Paschal mystery!
@@phoult37 Thanks, Pat. I'll take you up on that. I don't have a handle on Catholic liturgy and am surprised that there are strong feelings about the differences between Greek and Latin practices. Any recommendation for learning Catholic liturgy seems like a good place to start.
@@BIPOCperson I'm not ruling it out. Some portion of the conversion process has already transpired in that a storage shed of misconceptions about Catholicism have been dispelled, and I've been moved by humble Catholic guests on PWA with as much force in their testimony as a sermon by Voddie Baucham or John Piper.
Another three hour interview?! How do these people talk for so long about such dense topics? I can't talk to my friends about fruits and vegetables for ten minutes...
That's the reality of dealing with the modern numbed pleasure-seekers. If something isn't clearly going to smash their dopamine dump button or otherwise bring them to orgasm in some way, there's no time for it. We exist at the time in history with the absolute highest global level of average dopamine release and *tolerance* that whatever doesn't guarantee more of it is societally viewed as a worthless waste of time. Sex, drugs, sugar, attention, incessant leisure, fame, power and popularity, all of these push the same buttons in the brain that create disordered individuals. They are caught in a vicious cycle of chasing highs and never allowing lows that leads inevitably to self-defeat while simultaneously being primed to reject any authority or advice that would free them. If a nobody like me can figure this out, you can be pretty sure the elites know it too. I fear that the whole of humanity has now been pushed to the precipice of being enslaved to themselves.
Glory to Jesus Christ! Well... I'm also an extrovert who spends too much time alone because of his work.... So... Well.... When someone is ready to talk about these things, I am all too ready to go on for too long! Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
When you are passioniste about your area of expertise or interest sometimes you can’t stop talking. I can talk about theology, philosophy, or sports hours on end 🤣
Glory to Jesus Christ! Thanks for the kind note! Matt was such a great guy to be with. His own energy just reflected off me! Very enjoyable and spiritually edifying time! Blessings on your lent!
Thank you Matt!! Loved when you stopped during the ad read- I hate when people say giving up chocolate for lent isn’t good enough. It’s a sacrifice for me, ok? People don’t say that about coffee. But I don’t drink coffee. Chocolate is my coffee.
I’m catholic and I’ve always in my whole life been told to pray with problems. I’ve never been given a book except maybe twice to help with a problem .
Glory to Jesus Christ! I hear you, Bernadette. I even tried to build in room to my comment, I think. It was a joke a friend of mine once made. It does hit on a certain demographic of Catholic. There are a lot of academic and academic-like religious people and Catholics (remember, though Eastern, I'm Catholic, so I'm including myself here), who will go to a book to understand some mystery of the faith and life. Obviously, nobody does only that, but it is a kind of temptation of sorts. I do think the joke-which was meant to be self-deprecating, especially as my friend said it; apologies if I was not such-does hit a reality, though. But, yes, I should always be careful not to come off as dismissive-which was not my intent at all!
Glory to Jesus Christ! This makes me wonder if you are one of my students! They always refer to the colors of my socks-to the point that one bought me a pair of special "Texas" socks. Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
This was an excellent conversation! It really helped me to better my understanding of morality and the Theological Virtues in particular! I studied this last semester but it really is an ongoing reflection process! Does anyone know if Dr. Minerd's book is available as an e-book? Shipping to Argentina is not cheap!
Glory to Jesus Christ! I'm glad that this was edifying! Thanks for the kind note! Alas, the question of an ebook is still open, actually. I wish I had a more definitive answer! Blessings to you and yours this Lent!
@@matthewminerd7693 Thank you for replying Dr.! Please know that if the ebook is published I'll be the first to buy one, moral theology is such an important topic and being able to communicate it to a 'normal' audience is key! (speaking of communication, that was the peak of the conversation for me) Second question, where can I see/hear more of your lectures? Blessings to you and yours as well!
I liked the part where there is a comparision between the simplicity of the Eastern Jesus Prayer and the complexity of the Western Rosary devotion. I see the West is like Martha doing so many things, not that these are bad things to do. In fact they are very good.The East is like Mary doing the one thing, one which is most necessary good thing to do.
I think this is negative towards the Roman Catholics who attend the latin mass which is a common trait these days . I’m actually tired of the “rad trad” conversations . Most traditional catholics just want a place that will actually teach their children the faith and have a respectful liturgy that communicates sacredness to the faithful and to God .
Glory to Jesus Christ! Dear Bernadette, This was not meant to be such. (In fact, at one point, I referred to the changes to the Roman liturgy as "cataclysmic".) I will, of course, watch my verbiage, as I do not wish to hurt the feelings of traditional brethren. My family has many such friends. It is not at all my spiritual home, and truth be told, I emphasize this quite a bit because I see a rising tide of young conservatives who somewhat speak as though the TLM is the sole answer for the ills of the Church. Even though I wasn't raised Ruthenian, I do understand the way that the Roman Church and her clerics used to treat the East as second class citizens and second class liturgy. Thus, I merely like to remind folks that there are some people who are not Roman Rite Catholics, who love liturgical prayer, and who are not TLM folks. But I meant nothing hurtful and apologize for any hard feelings! Many blessings to you and your family this Lent!
Dr. Minerd mentioned a "famous" chart with 12 or 16 steps, but I couldn't find one anywhere with a search engine. Or on his website. Would love it if an example were linked.
@@sstritmatter2158 Glory to Jesus Christ! Glad you enjoyed our time together. Matt was so great to be with. It was an immense blessing! I hope that the beer was cold and refreshing! Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
I liked the talk concerning pride, which they're two types of pride I was taught. One, driving a brand new Tesla for example and parking where everyone can see it. Two, driving some P.O.S. car and parking, but hiding it to where no one can see it:) HA! That's how it was explained to me anyway...
I am a Roman Catholic and I am very interested in learning Eastern Catholic theology and traditions. My two questions are 1) is there 21 Eastern Catholic Churches or 23? I have gotten both answers and I am wondering why different people say different numbers. 2) What would you guys recommend I read to understand the Eastern Catholic Churches doctrine or dogma? (Sorry I'm not very familiar with the terminology). I unfortunately live in an area where there is no Eastern Catholic Churches within a five hour drive so I can't get involved in a community :(.
Glory to Jesus Christ! Twenty three. I wonder if the twenty-one number comes from some of the oddities of Jurisdiction that occurred in some Churches (like in my own, due to the Soviet Union years). I actually don't know the reason for the discrepancy. 2. You might benefit from the stuff from Eastern Christian Publications and the Sheptysky Institute. Also, so long as you bear in mind that there may be occasional anti-Catholicism, St. Vladimir's Seminary Press is excellent too. Alas, not everywhere is as blessed as the old rust belt is for all the various ritual Churches in the Catholic Church! Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
Just had mine last night. My small group was good, but several of the ideas shared with the large group were blatant heresy, including the hope someday for married women priests. I left the large group to find my parish priest and he was in the chapel having adoration. I told him what I had heard, and he said, "that's why I'm in here praying for the Church." It was comforting and reassuring.
Glory to Jesus Christ! Nothing significant here... But we Easterners are a bit on the fringes. A questionnaire, which was not all that interesting, but we most surely need prayer for the Church, for reasons like those noted by Pat below. Many blessings to all of you guys!
Glory to Jesus Christ! Excuse the relative brevity of this response. I’m dictating it on my phone. However, broadly what I was getting at was the fact that there is a general narrative out among conservatives of a certain generation, holding that the Communio school was the sole victor of faithful Catholicism after the Council. Bishop Barron regularly refers to “ahistorical neo-scholasticism” (or some equivalent) to dismiss everyone outside of a certain track of ressourcement thought that he likes. Generally, this leads to a kind of abandonment of all the Thomists (some great) and all preconciliar theology that doesn’t fit the mould taken by Ratzinger, De Lubac, Balthasar and others, claiming (implicitly with a wink and a nod) that only cranky trads like that stuff. All I can say here is that it is very distorted. And it’s to the great credit of Dr. Larry Chapp that he has had a few public conversations on this point. Truth be told, it is something that infuriates me when I hear the bishop say it. He has so much power in conservative circles, and it’s such a worn out narrative. Very disappointing. We all have our lacunae, so I try to be understanding. However, it just enrages me privately sometimes……….. As a Garrigou scholar, I never make the same sweeping claims against the SJs Bishop Barron likes. And I personally think that in particular Henri de Lubac was a snarky and arrogant man in the great debate over the “Nouvelle Théologie” (a useless term, because it is too nebulous, but it is used by many). If one reads the whole history of that exchange (which Dr. Jon Kirwan and I have in the pipeline at CUA press), it is clear that Michel Labourdette OP (at the Revue Thomiste) was petulantly mistreated for his legitimate and very balanced concerns. I could definitely play the us versus them game that the bishop seems to play on this topic, but it’s better not to. The history can speak for itself, and we need to just move on seeing that Labourdette, Nicolas, and Garrigou were not wrong. But I’ve talked about this at some length at Reason and Theology.) I hope that clarifies!
@@matthewminerd7693 Your thoughtful and detailed response is incredibly appreciated. Is there a video, in particular, on R&T that you could direct me to? I'd very much like to learn more about this. God Bless, Dr. Minerd!
Glory to Jesus Christ! Well..... While I have thought that, nonetheless, a forced archaism doesn't work in a language (well... at least if you are more descriptivist by bent, as I am). Alas! Blessings to you and yours!
@@matthewminerd7693 the archaism makes it more fun though, I think. Thank you for your take, Dr. If I may change the subject, what if anything did Saint Thomas have to say about forgiveness? Considering its critical importance for one’s salvation, I hope at least one of the great theologians have left us a clear definition of it. But if it’s out there, it’s been a very well kept secret! What I have received, when I’ve brought it up, is opinion, which is lovely, but not very helpful. It reminds me of the protestant thing about “being saved”: they’ll insist on how important it is, and then when you ask them “how do you know you’ve been saved?”, they get a blank look on their face. If you press them on the issue, though, eventually they talk about their feelings. If forgiveness requires some kind of mental trick to fool myself into liking somebody when I really don’t, so much for free will. But I know that’s not it. I believe it’s part of our on going commitment to being charitable, regardless of how we feel, thank God. But I was curious what the most authoritative teaching on forgiveness might be in terms of what it is and how it’s done. God bless!
@@francishaight2062 Glory to Jesus Christ! I do understand that! I do, however, support the use of archaisms in older english-language hymns, given the integral structure of the poetry (often with the music). I would look at ST II-II, q. 30 on Mercy. Also, I don't have the time right now, but I would look at the Scriptural Commentaries. Start with the relevant sermon on the mount passages in the Matthew commentary. However, then look at some relevant Pauline passages as well. Then, too, look at the exposition of the Lord's prayer. I think all of that together would be needed. Well... The most authoritative treatment would be Jesus and St. Paul, whose words are profound on this (as also the Petrine epistles). The profound peace felt in forgiving someone is not the same as merely sensate liking of someone. (And sometimes it's very difficult to discern. I still intensely scrutinize whether I truly have forgiven the former abbot of the monastery of which I was a member, for my affect is too strongly attached to making clear how much I dislike him..... But that being said, I could imagine a day when this is not the case, when I'm truly at peace, but when I also can say, quite clearly too: I would never want to spend a day with him ever, though if I had to, I would find some way to relate to him and bear it well enough.) Hope that helps somewhat! I have to run! God bless!
@@matthewminerd7693 Fair enough, and thank you! I will refer to the sources you recommend but, you know, perhaps it’s high time for a readable book that brings all these sources together to address that question, what forgiveness is and how it’s done, because it would be the first of its kind: a book that’s refreshingly intellectual, accessible and we can quit agonizing over whether we’ve actually forgiven someone or not.
Do eastern and orthodox experience things like Fatima or Lourdes, etc in their Church? I mean do they have such Marian apparitions or people like Saint Faustina, Catherine Laboure -- visionaries? If they do not have any such Divine interventions of God or the Blessed Virgin, how do they explain no such Divine signs of favor or new devotions being offered by God to enrich their faith (especially since sedevacantists and Protestants aren't thus favoured either)?
Glory to Jesus Christ! There are apparitions of this sort, though, truth be told, for my own part, I'm not overly informed concerning them. (I affirm the major apparitions and welcome their devotions as proper, but I was never quite a great devoté of them-and the Church does leave a great deal of freedom even in these matters, so long as one does not hold them in scorn, which I most surely don't, I assure you!) Maybe Matt can have someone one about this! Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
Glory to Jesus Christ! Apologies if we came off as dismissive to the West. (I would find this quite difficult to imagine, given how much I talked about things in Western terms, many drawn from the Thomist School.) But, I didn't mean to be so. However, as a Ruthenian Catholic, my spiritual, liturgical, and entire ecclesial home is the East. I rarely ever attend a Roman liturgy of any form. Thus, even in my thought as a Thomist, my experience of the Church is mediated through an Eastern prism. But, no insult at all was intended! Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
Hi Matt I think you have been out of Australia for a long time the Texas Y’all is Australia’s Youse in the sentence What are youse doing tonight - plural……
Glory to Jesus Christ! Too eager... My wife tells me that this is always my issue-but it does just come from a kind of zeal that needs to be bridled. (Imagine what it is like for someone who loves this stuff but really never gets to talk about it and most of whose family mostly thinks it is nonsense. My poor wife hears a lot of it... But that's about it!)
Dr M is so interesting, passionate and willing to be edgy & controversial. He has impressive skill and obvious pleasure over expressing concepts, but perhaps there are discoveries to be made regarding a shift in priority . Maybe by making sure companions sense that their words have been heard with unrushed tenderness.
@@springleaf1035 Glory to Jesus Christ! Thank you very much for this kind note. This is something I really am trying to work on. I assure you that it comes from my eagerness, but that doesn’t make it socially or interpersonally acceptable! (Also, I am an extrovert isolated on the mountaintop of Appalachia…!)
Apparently, my comment was deleted. I meant no offense. A ham according to the dictionary means someone who is overtly theatrical. And why is that a bad thing? Ok thanks, God bless.
Glory to Jesus Christ! I don't know anything about the mediation of these comments - given that one person had pretty strong negative words about me, I think your original one was deleted by the system, not by Pints. In any case, I own the fact that I am, shall we say, twitchy! I get it. Hence, "to be a ham" does well apply to me. (You should beware that some people will take this negatively, but I get it. If you watch the video with no sound on, at certain points, it looks like there is a crazy man [me] and a really afraid man leaning back thinking, "Who is this madman?!" [Matt].) I am like this quite a bit if I'm stirred up about a topic and comfortable. I saw this not as a kind of interview "professor comes in an talks" but two men talking. Matt put me right at home before the show, so I thought, "I'll just let myself be comfortable." In any case, I wasn't trying to be fake, I assure you! Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
@@tomemery7890 Glory to Jesus Christ! Well, completely normal is probably too strong! But thank you kindly. I pray that you and yours have blessed lent!
I love people who are so passionate about Our Lord and His Church. You Dr. Matthew Minerd are on fire and that comes through loud and clear. I like the excitement with which you present it. Thank you.
Many people discern a calling to monasticism, religious life, the priesthood and leave before they take vows, or during temporary vows (vows before their final profession) or ordination. In other words, they discern while living the life.
Christos voskrese! Christ is risen! Thank you, Elizabeth, for this point of quite legitimate criticism, one that has been registered before and on which I am working. To be honest, I have almost exclusively done "one way" talks or, on occasion, strictly back-and-forth Q/A format. Thus, I'm _very_ over-primed to take over a conversation, lecture-style. What is more, the format probably tempted me into this, as Matt and I became quite comfortable at the start of the talk. Obviously, that doesn't exonerate me of bad manners, but it should be noted that it wasn't coming from a kind of domineering malice. Rather, it was a mixture of excitement over the topic and the regular practice of a professor who listens to a question long enough to realize what a student is getting at so as to respond. (I have learned that sometimes allowing students to continue to go on at too great length actually leads them to confuse themselves. Thus, I probably too readily clip things off at exactly the point when I think: _that's the point_ or _that's how you should think about this_ etc.) Thank you much, though, for reminding me yet again of my bad habit here - and as one says, they die hard. But forgive an overly eager extrovert! Many blessings to you this paschal season!
Somehow, it seems that “Eastern vs. Western Theology” has eclipsed Christianity itself. Faith doesn’t have to be this intellectual. Liturgy isn’t God. Jesus is. I had a tough time sticking with this one
Glory to Jesus Christ! This wasn't the intent, but I hear you! We're academically bent, and I primarily work as an academic. The Church has always had intellectuals involved reflecting on the faith, but I guess the only thing I can say in my self-defense is that my morals book strives NOT to be at this intellectual level. Matt loves digging into questions. I apologize, therefore, for raining upon the light of faith! Not my intent! Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
@@matthewminerd7693 oh no I’m sorry I didn’t mean any disrespect either by the way. It just seems that it’s hard to evangelize those oblivious to all things Catholic, when they get buried in theology rhetoric. God bless you Matthew. It takes all kinds and methods 😊👍🏻
@@Babies_For_Mary Exactly! I completely agree! If everyone functioned at the academic level, it would be such an unintelligible mess! However we do need that part as well, so each of us has his or her particular vocation. But it’s very important for academics to remember that in the end their reflection is at the service of the faithful. I hope, if you do read “Made by God, Made for God” , that the text will speak to you. I really strove to write it in a totally digestible way. (But of course, I would never be insulted if you never read the book either!!) Many blessings, sincerely, to you and yours! No ounce of insult on my side! The professor always needs to remember not to be too professorial!
Matt, I humbly request you to invite Fr. Casey from the “Breaking in the habit” channel for this long discussion. I just posted a comment in his channel requesting the same. Kindly consider, Matt!
@Mongoose Man I know he’s considered too liberal for many but I would like to hear him and Matt have a discussion. Fr. Casey is not past criticizing things like giving communion to people living against the faith such as Joe Biden, so he’s not completely out there. There was the controversy about Fr Casey how he interprets scripture too, so I think it would be beneficial to have those things addressed here for people to genuinely see his side, whether they agree or not
@@jbell4574 I was going to agree with Mongoose Man, because he really treads the line on certain topics, but you're right. It would be nice to hear his side - so long as Matt Fradd wasn't too easy on him.
I agree Fr. Casey really does toe the line sometimes but I think it might be a good opportunity to clarify his viewpoints. I think it would also be a gesture displaying an open mind. The good kind of open mind that steel man's an argument not the kind of open mind that spills one's brain matter into the universe.
Fundamentally, God does not exist outside his word and sacrament - preaching, water, bread and whine. Christ destroys all metaphysics, all theologies of glory - Catholicism - that seek to posses God via external knowledge - Thomism, the Mass. All natural theology must be severed/destroyed by the theology of the cross (Luther).
Dr. Minerd has exceptional eye-brow raising skills
Lol😄😄
Glory to Jesus Christ!
Thick eye-brows help...! But, yes... If you watch this on mute, I look crazy.... I have always been this twitchy. As I said to another guy, I took this to be a casual conversation. At least I gave a chance for amusement. I assure you, it's all just a kind of natural set of reactions on my part!
@@matthewminerd7693 I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation and sincerely loved your facial expressions. No sarcasm or insult meant by my comment! I teach a class on communication and try to get my students to be more expressive with their non-verbals...you are the perfect exemplar!
@@phoult37 Glory to Jesus Christ!
I took no insult! But I try to be self-aware too. It's like MASSIVE non-verbal communication. There is a madness side to it. I don't see myself as a being an academic in the end, and just want to have conversations with folks. (Even when I teach, I tell my students that there is a real sense in which I don't feel like a professor - just a guy who loves theology and philosophy and happens right now to be teaching.) Thus, the fustiness of propriety is not my personality. I always have felt a bit like the kid raised in blue-collar Appalachia - eager and excited.
Glad you enjoyed it! I really thought it was great to spend time with Matt.
Peace,
Matthew
It's an indicator of his great knowledge. 👍
Liturgy of the hours is my bread and butter. I own the single volume. Some people don't prefer it but I'm only praying morning and evening so it's a complete volume. It definitly keeps me grounded and gives my day a pinicle. Morning prayer at dawn before work. Evening prayer at dusk is how I do it.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
Yes indeed! How wonderful a sanctification of the day. And the Psalter is almost like an entire reflection of the Gospel and of Christian experience!
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
I've been wanting to see this for ages. I love listening to Dr. Minerd on R&T and I'm glad he is getting to a bigger audience now, thanks to both of you. God bless!
Glory to Jesus Christ!
But I have not abandoned R & T, I assure you! Just very busy of late. It's always like that during term... But, I need to get back over there to finish a whole series on things in the ST III. That sequence is tied up with a translation I have to edit. I have to conserve my time, so I'm going to use the editing of the Christology section as a chance to prep those lectures.
Thanks for so kind a note! Blessings on your Lent!
24:43 It Had Taken Me Years To Cultivate and Develop This Attribute. Finally, Arriving At The Epitome of My Effort. Praise and Glory to God.
Dr. Minerd is so genuine. He's always great on Reason and Theology
Glory to Jesus Christ!
I try to just do the interview as is - for good or ill. No doubt, for some, my hyper quirkiness in this interview was probably a bitter pill to swallow. But, I saw this as being just a kind of conversation, so I just let myself be casual. If it is any consolation, this is often what I'm like.... I've always been a bit twitchy by temperament! But, I love the content, and just had such a lovely time with Matt. Thus... Well, turtles and quirks all the way down!
Many blessings! I need to get back over to R & T!
@@matthewminerd7693 I definitely meant it as a compliment fyi, I appreciate you being so genuine in the interview. God bless you!
Yes! More Thomists on Pints with Aquinas, please! I hope to see Gaven Kerr next in this channel!
Glory to Jesus Christ!
Hear! Hear! Dr. Kerr would be excellent!
Blessings on your Lent!
I love it when the guest is someone I haven’t come across yet - always someone new to read about. This was an interesting episode 🙏🏼
Glory to Jesus Christ!
Glad you found it edifying! Many blessings to you and yours as Lent / the Great Fast approaches!
Dr. Minerd, I love listening to you talk, God bless you. Everyone check out dr. Minerd on Reason and Theology, his lectures there are pure gold.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
Thank you for the kind remark. I miss the gents over at R & T. Just busy, nothing else than that. I've gotta get back over there! Many blessings on your Lent!
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I’ve only been attending TLM and now hearing about Byzantine mass and the vocabulary that goes with it is fascinating and overwhelming all at the same time.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
I feel the same still after years! :-) I'm still learning the ropes, having myself been raised in the West!
Many blessings to you and yours for the Lenten season!
I had the pleasure of being a student of Msgr. Dr. Sokolowski. He was/is terrific. One of the best professors I ever had. Dr. Minerd nails it there.
15 minutes in and I think my head is going to explode. I'm a protestant with no Catholic background, so much of this is way over my head, and yet it's briskly intriguing.
There's a lot to systematic theology. I don't claim to be a theologian, but if there are any questions you have or clarifications you want, I can give you an answer or point you in the right direction.
Convert my friend.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
Thanks, dear brother in Christ, for stopping by! Yes, it was kind of "wheels right on the ground" full speed from the start! I hope that something was edifying. You might find the section from around the 1 hour mark until the break most applicable. I'm always available at my website contact form if you want to reach out to ask questions about the Catholic faith!
Many blessings to you and yours as we enter Lent and prepare to celebrate the Paschal mystery!
@@phoult37 Thanks, Pat. I'll take you up on that. I don't have a handle on Catholic liturgy and am surprised that there are strong feelings about the differences between Greek and Latin practices. Any recommendation for learning Catholic liturgy seems like a good place to start.
@@BIPOCperson I'm not ruling it out. Some portion of the conversion process has already transpired in that a storage shed of misconceptions about Catholicism have been dispelled, and I've been moved by humble Catholic guests on PWA with as much force in their testimony as a sermon by Voddie Baucham or John Piper.
Another three hour interview?! How do these people talk for so long about such dense topics? I can't talk to my friends about fruits and vegetables for ten minutes...
Don’t talk about fruits and vegetables. Better eat together instead. You could stay together for a longer duration. Lol!
That's the reality of dealing with the modern numbed pleasure-seekers. If something isn't clearly going to smash their dopamine dump button or otherwise bring them to orgasm in some way, there's no time for it. We exist at the time in history with the absolute highest global level of average dopamine release and *tolerance* that whatever doesn't guarantee more of it is societally viewed as a worthless waste of time. Sex, drugs, sugar, attention, incessant leisure, fame, power and popularity, all of these push the same buttons in the brain that create disordered individuals. They are caught in a vicious cycle of chasing highs and never allowing lows that leads inevitably to self-defeat while simultaneously being primed to reject any authority or advice that would free them. If a nobody like me can figure this out, you can be pretty sure the elites know it too. I fear that the whole of humanity has now been pushed to the precipice of being enslaved to themselves.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
Well... I'm also an extrovert who spends too much time alone because of his work.... So... Well.... When someone is ready to talk about these things, I am all too ready to go on for too long!
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
Denser topics are easier to talk about for longer, right?
When you are passioniste about your area of expertise or interest sometimes you can’t stop talking. I can talk about theology, philosophy, or sports hours on end 🤣
I could listen to Dr. Minerd for hours and hours! Wonderful
Great interview. Thank you so much Matt and dr Minerd for delivering such a high quality content!
Glory to Jesus Christ!
Thanks for the kind note! Matt was such a great guy to be with. His own energy just reflected off me! Very enjoyable and spiritually edifying time!
Blessings on your lent!
Thank you Matt!! Loved when you stopped during the ad read- I hate when people say giving up chocolate for lent isn’t good enough. It’s a sacrifice for me, ok?
People don’t say that about coffee. But I don’t drink coffee. Chocolate is my coffee.
Yes! Anything you use regularly or delight in is worthy of Lenten sacrifice. Good for you!
I’m catholic and I’ve always in my whole life been told to pray with problems. I’ve never been given a book except maybe twice to help with a problem .
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I hear you, Bernadette. I even tried to build in room to my comment, I think. It was a joke a friend of mine once made. It does hit on a certain demographic of Catholic. There are a lot of academic and academic-like religious people and Catholics (remember, though Eastern, I'm Catholic, so I'm including myself here), who will go to a book to understand some mystery of the faith and life. Obviously, nobody does only that, but it is a kind of temptation of sorts. I do think the joke-which was meant to be self-deprecating, especially as my friend said it; apologies if I was not such-does hit a reality, though. But, yes, I should always be careful not to come off as dismissive-which was not my intent at all!
Many Blessings on your Lent!
I know when these go long they’re going to be worth listening to! (I listen to the recorded version while I work so like long discussions!)
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I hope that you find this edifying! Many blessings to you and yours this Lent.
Matt, why don't you invite Fr. David Abernethy to talk about eastern spirituality? He has a great website called Philokalia Ministries
I second this ^
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Hear hear! Agreed. And he is physically close (relatively so) to Matt's studios!
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
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Yes! Please do.
Yes! Another great guest would be Fr. Joel Barstad
Yes a 3 hour interview!
Glory to Jesus Christ!
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
@@matthewminerd7693 Thank you, you too!
I hear you loud and clear! Slava Ukraini 😇🥰💙💛🌻🌻🌻🙏🙏🙏💯
Dr. Minerd has the greatest socks! Great job Matthew!
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This makes me wonder if you are one of my students! They always refer to the colors of my socks-to the point that one bought me a pair of special "Texas" socks.
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
Great video! Happy to see a Saintwave shirt! That’s my brother in law’s company 🙏🏼
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Glad you enjoyed it! Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
This was an excellent conversation! It really helped me to better my understanding of morality and the Theological Virtues in particular! I studied this last semester but it really is an ongoing reflection process!
Does anyone know if Dr. Minerd's book is available as an e-book? Shipping to Argentina is not cheap!
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I'm glad that this was edifying! Thanks for the kind note!
Alas, the question of an ebook is still open, actually. I wish I had a more definitive answer!
Blessings to you and yours this Lent!
@@matthewminerd7693 Thank you for replying Dr.!
Please know that if the ebook is published I'll be the first to buy one, moral theology is such an important topic and being able to communicate it to a 'normal' audience is key! (speaking of communication, that was the peak of the conversation for me)
Second question, where can I see/hear more of your lectures?
Blessings to you and yours as well!
I liked the part where there is a comparision between the simplicity of the Eastern Jesus Prayer and the complexity of the Western Rosary devotion. I see the West is like Martha doing so many things, not that these are bad things to do. In fact they are very good.The East is like Mary doing the one thing, one which is most necessary good thing to do.
I think this is negative towards the Roman Catholics who attend the latin mass which is a common trait these days . I’m actually tired of the “rad trad” conversations . Most traditional catholics just want a place that will actually teach their children the faith and have a respectful liturgy that communicates sacredness to the faithful and to God .
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Dear Bernadette,
This was not meant to be such. (In fact, at one point, I referred to the changes to the Roman liturgy as "cataclysmic".) I will, of course, watch my verbiage, as I do not wish to hurt the feelings of traditional brethren. My family has many such friends. It is not at all my spiritual home, and truth be told, I emphasize this quite a bit because I see a rising tide of young conservatives who somewhat speak as though the TLM is the sole answer for the ills of the Church. Even though I wasn't raised Ruthenian, I do understand the way that the Roman Church and her clerics used to treat the East as second class citizens and second class liturgy. Thus, I merely like to remind folks that there are some people who are not Roman Rite Catholics, who love liturgical prayer, and who are not TLM folks.
But I meant nothing hurtful and apologize for any hard feelings!
Many blessings to you and your family this Lent!
Dr. Minerd mentioned a "famous" chart with 12 or 16 steps, but I couldn't find one anywhere with a search engine. Or on his website. Would love it if an example were linked.
Went to seminary with him! Smarty!!
Eye brow usage. 5/5.
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I assure you it wasn't affected! Such is my jittery self! Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
intro music is the best
Matt, could it be that God programmed these sorts of moral traits into our biology through evolution?
Enjoying a Beck's beer with this ; )
great conversations with intellectual and upright young men. This is like rarer to see in the world than anything National Geographic could ever film.
@@sstritmatter2158 Glory to Jesus Christ!
Glad you enjoyed our time together. Matt was so great to be with. It was an immense blessing! I hope that the beer was cold and refreshing!
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
I liked the talk concerning pride, which they're two types of pride I was taught. One, driving a brand new Tesla for example and parking where everyone can see it. Two, driving some P.O.S. car and parking, but hiding it to where no one can see it:) HA! That's how it was explained to me anyway...
I am a Roman Catholic and I am very interested in learning Eastern Catholic theology and traditions. My two questions are 1) is there 21 Eastern Catholic Churches or 23? I have gotten both answers and I am wondering why different people say different numbers. 2) What would you guys recommend I read to understand the Eastern Catholic Churches doctrine or dogma? (Sorry I'm not very familiar with the terminology). I unfortunately live in an area where there is no Eastern Catholic Churches within a five hour drive so I can't get involved in a community :(.
There are 20 Catholic Churches in the East. Here's the breakdown. Byzantine Rite (12), Alexandrian (2), Antiochene (3), Armenian, Chaldean (2).
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Twenty three. I wonder if the twenty-one number comes from some of the oddities of Jurisdiction that occurred in some Churches (like in my own, due to the Soviet Union years). I actually don't know the reason for the discrepancy. 2. You might benefit from the stuff from Eastern Christian Publications and the Sheptysky Institute. Also, so long as you bear in mind that there may be occasional anti-Catholicism, St. Vladimir's Seminary Press is excellent too.
Alas, not everywhere is as blessed as the old rust belt is for all the various ritual Churches in the Catholic Church!
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
@@matthewminerd7693 Thanks for the response that helps a lot!
@@madelineporter2466 great! At least it is a start! Many blessings!
Slovakia... Nice to see at least somehow associated with us here...
I am curious if anyone here has had any experience with Pope Francis’ synod? Mine was not very good sadly
@Colin Grace What was your experience with the synod?
Just had mine last night. My small group was good, but several of the ideas shared with the large group were blatant heresy, including the hope someday for married women priests. I left the large group to find my parish priest and he was in the chapel having adoration. I told him what I had heard, and he said, "that's why I'm in here praying for the Church." It was comforting and reassuring.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
Nothing significant here... But we Easterners are a bit on the fringes. A questionnaire, which was not all that interesting, but we most surely need prayer for the Church, for reasons like those noted by Pat below.
Many blessings to all of you guys!
Could someone explain to me what Dr. Minerd was saying about Bishop Barron and the communio school of thought / traditionalists? Thanks.
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Excuse the relative brevity of this response. I’m dictating it on my phone. However, broadly what I was getting at was the fact that there is a general narrative out among conservatives of a certain generation, holding that the Communio school was the sole victor of faithful Catholicism after the Council. Bishop Barron regularly refers to “ahistorical neo-scholasticism” (or some equivalent) to dismiss everyone outside of a certain track of ressourcement thought that he likes. Generally, this leads to a kind of abandonment of all the Thomists (some great) and all preconciliar theology that doesn’t fit the mould taken by Ratzinger, De Lubac, Balthasar and others, claiming (implicitly with a wink and a nod) that only cranky trads like that stuff. All I can say here is that it is very distorted. And it’s to the great credit of Dr. Larry Chapp that he has had a few public conversations on this point. Truth be told, it is something that infuriates me when I hear the bishop say it. He has so much power in conservative circles, and it’s such a worn out narrative. Very disappointing. We all have our lacunae, so I try to be understanding. However, it just enrages me privately sometimes……….. As a Garrigou scholar, I never make the same sweeping claims against the SJs Bishop Barron likes. And I personally think that in particular Henri de Lubac was a snarky and arrogant man in the great debate over the “Nouvelle Théologie” (a useless term, because it is too nebulous, but it is used by many). If one reads the whole history of that exchange (which Dr. Jon Kirwan and I have in the pipeline at CUA press), it is clear that Michel Labourdette OP (at the Revue Thomiste) was petulantly mistreated for his legitimate and very balanced concerns. I could definitely play the us versus them game that the bishop seems to play on this topic, but it’s better not to. The history can speak for itself, and we need to just move on seeing that Labourdette, Nicolas, and Garrigou were not wrong. But I’ve talked about this at some length at Reason and Theology.)
I hope that clarifies!
@@matthewminerd7693 Your thoughtful and detailed response is incredibly appreciated. Is there a video, in particular, on R&T that you could direct me to? I'd very much like to learn more about this. God Bless, Dr. Minerd!
Can someone tell me the name of the artist of the intro music for this episode?
What’s wrong with “ye” for 2nd person plural? It used to be standard in English a really long time ago.
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Well..... While I have thought that, nonetheless, a forced archaism doesn't work in a language (well... at least if you are more descriptivist by bent, as I am). Alas!
Blessings to you and yours!
@@matthewminerd7693 the archaism makes it more fun though, I think. Thank you for your take, Dr.
If I may change the subject, what if anything did Saint Thomas have to say about forgiveness? Considering its critical importance for one’s salvation, I hope at least one of the great theologians have left us a clear definition of it. But if it’s out there, it’s been a very well kept secret! What I have received, when I’ve brought it up, is opinion, which is lovely, but not very helpful. It reminds me of the protestant thing about “being saved”: they’ll insist on how important it is, and then when you ask them “how do you know you’ve been saved?”, they get a blank look on their face. If you press them on the issue, though, eventually they talk about their feelings. If forgiveness requires some kind of mental trick to fool myself into liking somebody when I really don’t, so much for free will. But I know that’s not it. I believe it’s part of our on going commitment to being charitable, regardless of how we feel, thank God. But I was curious what the most authoritative teaching on forgiveness might be in terms of what it is and how it’s done.
God bless!
@@francishaight2062 Glory to Jesus Christ!
I do understand that! I do, however, support the use of archaisms in older english-language hymns, given the integral structure of the poetry (often with the music).
I would look at ST II-II, q. 30 on Mercy. Also, I don't have the time right now, but I would look at the Scriptural Commentaries. Start with the relevant sermon on the mount passages in the Matthew commentary. However, then look at some relevant Pauline passages as well. Then, too, look at the exposition of the Lord's prayer. I think all of that together would be needed.
Well... The most authoritative treatment would be Jesus and St. Paul, whose words are profound on this (as also the Petrine epistles). The profound peace felt in forgiving someone is not the same as merely sensate liking of someone. (And sometimes it's very difficult to discern. I still intensely scrutinize whether I truly have forgiven the former abbot of the monastery of which I was a member, for my affect is too strongly attached to making clear how much I dislike him..... But that being said, I could imagine a day when this is not the case, when I'm truly at peace, but when I also can say, quite clearly too: I would never want to spend a day with him ever, though if I had to, I would find some way to relate to him and bear it well enough.)
Hope that helps somewhat! I have to run!
God bless!
@@matthewminerd7693 Fair enough, and thank you!
I will refer to the sources you recommend but, you know, perhaps it’s high time for a readable book that brings all these sources together to address that question, what forgiveness is and how it’s done, because it would be the first of its kind: a book that’s refreshingly intellectual, accessible and we can quit agonizing over whether we’ve actually forgiven someone or not.
what’s with the vanity hair, glasses, and teeth?
Can someone kindly tell me the branch of Catholocism he's talking about? It sounds like ,"Rithinian"? Thank you.
Ruthenian
Do eastern and orthodox experience things like Fatima or Lourdes, etc in their Church? I mean do they have such Marian apparitions or people like Saint Faustina, Catherine Laboure -- visionaries? If they do not have any such Divine interventions of God or the Blessed Virgin, how do they explain no such Divine signs of favor or new devotions being offered by God to enrich their faith (especially since sedevacantists and Protestants aren't thus favoured either)?
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There are apparitions of this sort, though, truth be told, for my own part, I'm not overly informed concerning them. (I affirm the major apparitions and welcome their devotions as proper, but I was never quite a great devoté of them-and the Church does leave a great deal of freedom even in these matters, so long as one does not hold them in scorn, which I most surely don't, I assure you!) Maybe Matt can have someone one about this!
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
I really don't get the obsession with the East.
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Apologies if we came off as dismissive to the West. (I would find this quite difficult to imagine, given how much I talked about things in Western terms, many drawn from the Thomist School.) But, I didn't mean to be so. However, as a Ruthenian Catholic, my spiritual, liturgical, and entire ecclesial home is the East. I rarely ever attend a Roman liturgy of any form. Thus, even in my thought as a Thomist, my experience of the Church is mediated through an Eastern prism.
But, no insult at all was intended!
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
Hi Matt I think you have been out of Australia for a long time the Texas Y’all is Australia’s Youse in the sentence
What are youse doing tonight - plural……
you guys interrupted each other way to much. hard to follow on complicated issues and it doenst help that you guys kept cutting each other off
still a great talk though 👌 👏
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Too eager... My wife tells me that this is always my issue-but it does just come from a kind of zeal that needs to be bridled. (Imagine what it is like for someone who loves this stuff but really never gets to talk about it and most of whose family mostly thinks it is nonsense. My poor wife hears a lot of it... But that's about it!)
Point taken, though! Blessings to you and yours this lent!
Dr M is so interesting, passionate and willing to be edgy & controversial. He has impressive skill and obvious pleasure over expressing concepts, but perhaps there are discoveries to be made regarding a shift in priority . Maybe by making sure companions sense that their words have been heard with unrushed tenderness.
@@springleaf1035 Glory to Jesus Christ!
Thank you very much for this kind note. This is something I really am trying to work on. I assure you that it comes from my eagerness, but that doesn’t make it socially or interpersonally acceptable!
(Also, I am an extrovert isolated on the mountaintop of Appalachia…!)
¡Viva Cristo Rey!
Amen!
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
Apparently, my comment was deleted. I meant no offense. A ham according to the dictionary means someone who is overtly theatrical. And why is that a bad thing? Ok thanks, God bless.
#freedomofspeech
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I don't know anything about the mediation of these comments - given that one person had pretty strong negative words about me, I think your original one was deleted by the system, not by Pints. In any case, I own the fact that I am, shall we say, twitchy! I get it. Hence, "to be a ham" does well apply to me. (You should beware that some people will take this negatively, but I get it. If you watch the video with no sound on, at certain points, it looks like there is a crazy man [me] and a really afraid man leaning back thinking, "Who is this madman?!" [Matt].) I am like this quite a bit if I'm stirred up about a topic and comfortable. I saw this not as a kind of interview "professor comes in an talks" but two men talking. Matt put me right at home before the show, so I thought, "I'll just let myself be comfortable." In any case, I wasn't trying to be fake, I assure you!
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
@@matthewminerd7693 I thought you came across completely normal and very charming Matthew
@@tomemery7890 Glory to Jesus Christ!
Well, completely normal is probably too strong! But thank you kindly. I pray that you and yours have blessed lent!
I love people who are so passionate about Our Lord and His Church. You Dr. Matthew Minerd are on fire and that comes through loud and clear. I like the excitement with which you present it. Thank you.
Dr Minerd is an Ex monk? Please explain...
Many people discern a calling to monasticism, religious life, the priesthood and leave before they take vows, or during temporary vows (vows before their final profession) or ordination. In other words, they discern while living the life.
The guest needs to learn how to converse without cutting off his host. Very interesting discussion otherwise.
Christos voskrese! Christ is risen!
Thank you, Elizabeth, for this point of quite legitimate criticism, one that has been registered before and on which I am working. To be honest, I have almost exclusively done "one way" talks or, on occasion, strictly back-and-forth Q/A format. Thus, I'm _very_ over-primed to take over a conversation, lecture-style. What is more, the format probably tempted me into this, as Matt and I became quite comfortable at the start of the talk. Obviously, that doesn't exonerate me of bad manners, but it should be noted that it wasn't coming from a kind of domineering malice. Rather, it was a mixture of excitement over the topic and the regular practice of a professor who listens to a question long enough to realize what a student is getting at so as to respond. (I have learned that sometimes allowing students to continue to go on at too great length actually leads them to confuse themselves. Thus, I probably too readily clip things off at exactly the point when I think: _that's the point_ or _that's how you should think about this_ etc.)
Thank you much, though, for reminding me yet again of my bad habit here - and as one says, they die hard. But forgive an overly eager extrovert!
Many blessings to you this paschal season!
Somehow, it seems that “Eastern vs. Western Theology” has eclipsed Christianity itself. Faith doesn’t have to be this intellectual. Liturgy isn’t God. Jesus is. I had a tough time sticking with this one
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This wasn't the intent, but I hear you! We're academically bent, and I primarily work as an academic. The Church has always had intellectuals involved reflecting on the faith, but I guess the only thing I can say in my self-defense is that my morals book strives NOT to be at this intellectual level. Matt loves digging into questions. I apologize, therefore, for raining upon the light of faith! Not my intent!
Many blessings to you and yours this Lent!
@@matthewminerd7693 oh no I’m sorry I didn’t mean any disrespect either by the way. It just seems that it’s hard to evangelize those oblivious to all things Catholic, when they get buried in theology rhetoric. God bless you Matthew. It takes all kinds and methods 😊👍🏻
@@Babies_For_Mary Exactly! I completely agree! If everyone functioned at the academic level, it would be such an unintelligible mess! However we do need that part as well, so each of us has his or her particular vocation. But it’s very important for academics to remember that in the end their reflection is at the service of the faithful. I hope, if you do read “Made by God, Made for God” , that the text will speak to you. I really strove to write it in a totally digestible way. (But of course, I would never be insulted if you never read the book either!!)
Many blessings, sincerely, to you and yours! No ounce of insult on my side! The professor always needs to remember not to be too professorial!
@@matthewminerd7693 haha no worries thank you for your ministry my brother!!
Matt, I humbly request you to invite Fr. Casey from the “Breaking in the habit” channel for this long discussion. I just posted a comment in his channel requesting the same. Kindly consider, Matt!
@Mongoose Man Aw, why?!
@Mongoose Man I know he’s considered too liberal for many but I would like to hear him and Matt have a discussion. Fr. Casey is not past criticizing things like giving communion to people living against the faith such as Joe Biden, so he’s not completely out there.
There was the controversy about Fr Casey how he interprets scripture too, so I think it would be beneficial to have those things addressed here for people to genuinely see his side, whether they agree or not
@@jbell4574 I was going to agree with Mongoose Man, because he really treads the line on certain topics, but you're right. It would be nice to hear his side - so long as Matt Fradd wasn't too easy on him.
I agree Fr. Casey really does toe the line sometimes but I think it might be a good opportunity to clarify his viewpoints. I think it would also be a gesture displaying an open mind. The good kind of open mind that steel man's an argument not the kind of open mind that spills one's brain matter into the universe.
I would actually rather not
What a bad cath. Divorced? I would too. Yuck.
Fundamentally, God does not exist outside his word and sacrament - preaching, water, bread and whine. Christ destroys all metaphysics, all theologies of glory - Catholicism - that seek to posses God via external knowledge - Thomism, the Mass. All natural theology must be severed/destroyed by the theology of the cross (Luther).
Go directly to God for forgivness of sins not a priest!