Back in the day, my brother and I were big into Everquest. My little sister wanted to play with us, but she was too young. So mom tasked us with finding and MMO for her. We found Toontown and she was hooked.
Yo that Pirates of the Caribbean game is even beyond what "AAAA" devs can do today. I mean, open world, and you can land on any island and fight on foot! Watch out Skull & Bones.
A lot of older MMOs are far beyond what devs can do these days. Because, well, devs have no vision and no creativity. They have the audacity to claim you can't do the things MMOs were doing over 20 years. Fucking massive smucks.
Dudeee pirates of the caribean online was such a hidden gem, the ships battle, the enemy raiding the islands at certain point of the day, seeing every player defending the island agains the skeletons. Such a good mechanics and game for its year, wish some company made a game with some of the features.
Isn't there P-Server for that game ? might as well support for it doesn't completely die .. hopefully someone brings back Wildstar, not my favorite but still was a unique MMORPG that didn't deserve too die.
Back to life, how? You mean after the closure? If so, he or she would have had to comply with Disney's NDA agreement and this..."is" what keeps original developers from active participation (for the future).
Thanks for taking a look at Matrix Online! It's my favorite MMO of all time. The eerie feeling you had may have been amplified by the emptiness of the server, but it was kind of always like that, I think by design. The city was grimy and felt unsafe, there were gangs of secret vampires and werewolves and fallen angels, a lot of the locations and lore were biblical references, and the plot - in which you were a 'redpill' who knew the nature of the Matrix and had to protect the innocent and unaware 'bluepills' - was pretty high-concept for an MMO. I think it failed for the same reasons I loved it - it wasn't colorful or friendly or swashbuckling, it was gritty and gray with a focus on secrets and conspiracies.
Late comment but if you ever find a game with WASD not being usable and its direction buttons as default. Press FN+w on keyboard. This swaps wasd and directional buttons letting you still use WASD to move around. Just remember to swap it back if you want to type anything ^^
Tera and Elyon are part of these who exist only under the form of private servers these days. Tera had fantastic combat for its time, while I remember Elyon mostly for its character creation and how you had the option of open-world player housing (albeit with rent)...
This is a cool premise for a video. :) A couple of honorary mentions that are run by fans of the game today): City of Heroes (and villains) - fantastic game. Warhammer Online - Age Of Reckoning Pirates of the Burning Sea - best in class ship combat, IMO. Sort of. And the golden oldie STILL run by the original developer, with new graphic engine, and free to play without stupid monetization: Anarchy Online, by Funcom - this was a classic before even World of Warcraft (but everquest was earlier.).
I remember playing Matrix Online, while the listening to an online DJ (through winamp) while dancing in the in game night clubs. They would make call outs and stuff and those clubs had close to 30 people just hanging out and talking. With endgame fashion of course... good, nerdy times. Thank you Waydot
My first ever "MMO" so to speak was Pangya, and at the time I started playing it was called Albatross18. It shut down and got revived many times before finally shutting down for good. There are private servers still, but it's not quite the same as it was. I miss it with all of my heart. Maybe I'll give a private server another try sometime.
I was a huge pirates online player back in the day, it was my first mmorpg I love the recreation, as someone who played it when it was new they have done an AMAZING job!
Two games I used to play, one of them a lot more than the other, Firefall which I still miss, had decent gameplay with alright progression, the ability to essentially mine resources just about anywhere and random folk could join in to help was nice, and the other was Global Agenda, though I don't remember if it was ever really an MMO persay
I have discovered you just recently, and I must say, I was missing a lot, totally love your videos. Watching the „MMO for the first time” series I thought, maybe RuneScape 3 from a new player perspective? I know you have played it for a long time, but I think that could be useful for someone who has never touched it :) Keep up the great work!
2nd ever MMORPG I've played was FusionFall, and I highly recommend giving it a go for everyone. There are private servers to experience the sheer ambience and the passion that went into it back in the time. I still love it dearly despite it's dated (heavily so) combat system.
Seriously! If you're reading this and never experienced Pirates Online, you need to check it out! This game was way ahead of it's time and kept me glued playing on my crappy Windows 2000 computer.
Dungeon Runners is a game that nobody seems to touch on. If you do another one of these. Please tackle that! Its NCSofts spoof of WoW and the Treasure Gnomes were HILARIOUS.
Toon town rewritten is fun but you should seriously give corporate class a try. They the base toontown expirence and overhauled it. There are new gags, new mechanics, new cogs, crazy bosses. Its all really amazing.
As for another MMO that has been brought back, Monster Hunter Frontier has a number of private servers available and has the largest range of monsters available in a game in the franchise. Its also been translated to English as the game was never released in the west.
it should be made a congressional law that all games after a certain period of time ; that the source codes for the games are public record. if they do this. many games of old will be fixed and updated correctly. even new games will be created from that source code. it could be a boon for coders
That Warhammer Online tease :( I really enjoyed that game, but EverQuest won (and still wins) my monthly sub dollars. I gave The Matrix Online a fair shake back in the day, since it was part of my EQ subscription. It...wasn't good. The devs certainly tried a lot of interesting ideas though.
@10:51 many of the things that are missing ; are pieces of code that were apparently stored on the companies servers. companies do this ; specifically for this reason. time goes by and someone wants to play this again; and i get it; but from company standpoint; you can go kick a tree lol. all online games are like this. many features will just be gone. and many of them might be critical to the game itself.
I remember playing this weird game that was advertised as similar to runescape. It was a laggy chat game that had two other "chat games". One was a tropical beach you could drive a car and the other was a space game where you were on the moon and could drive a rover and there was a smaller moon you could jet pack to. I was like 11 years old at the time. A lot of creeps on there were always E-dating eachother.
LEGO Universe would be perfect if this becomes a series. Was a subscription-service mmorpg from 2010-2012. Was finally made playable again sometime within the last 5 years. Setup isn't that difficult, and some discords run servers so you could actually experience the game with players again.
please please do a pirates online deep dive. it is *such* a fun game, and the ship combat is crazy engaging for the time it was created. Sort of a precursor to Sea of thieves, in a way.
for me it is Vanguard, it has really great ideas like diplomacy, great classes like bard who made his own spells, necromancer that designed his minions, best crafting ever, great fishing etc. and as far as games never made, my biggest regret is Mythica from microsoft GS - it could have been great
I was one of the thousands of Matrix Online beta testers in 2005 before launch and then stayed on as a paying customer until about mid-2006 or so. It was crazy fun at first, when Monolith was developing the game, but Sony Online Entertainment basically ruined the game after they took over. I kept up with what was going on in the game because of friends still playing, all the way to the crazy way it ended when SOE pulled the plug in 2009, but it was a real shame the way everything went down.
They should be forced to release source code like 15 years after the game dies completely. Books and Movies go into the public domain, why can't games??
Wait I remember pirates online. That was an extremely fun time back then. Me and my brother a two man crew taking out bigger ships for the the country we worked with , Deutschland. now i don't actually remember if that was the actual name of the country, i only remember that it was related to the dutch. Good times. now i am nostalgic.
the pirates of the caribian game was ahead of its time for sure. wow. kinda wish i played it in it's hay-day. edit: low poly aside, the faces are actually really well done. and the combat looked amazing for the era. I'd watch more
another good one, and it really really could of been the best, is the story of AoC (the proper one age of conan) but how funcom fecked it up by rushing release, i remember playing beta and opening day, the buzz was amazing until you got to about level 20 then hit the bad zone, no-one could pass it due to bugs etc not tested, was rushed out.. That game was and still is ahead of its time, Tortuga island is some of hte best area ive ever played
I wanna be able to play Everquest: Online Frontiers the PS2 game again. I had so much fun as a kid playing it. I even had a rare discontinued item u had to get by doing a tough quest that got discontinued. Then a about two years later they closed the servers. 😢 i miss that kind of experience. The simple but fun MMO'S, wish they would remake it in modern graphics.
If you want an almost dead, forgotten MMO I recommend Voyage Century Online. Kinda RuneScape clone in naval theme. Recently IGG closed the VCO due to some drama, but Bounty Bay Online from developer Snail Games still exists. BBO is VCO but from a different company
@@LotusPetal I wish to give you all the details but it's all hazy. I found some info that Snail Games (developer) is broke, but how that translates to IGG I don't know. I found some videos like this: ua-cam.com/video/1lgS_fES3ZY/v-deo.html
The matrix online has a discord group. Just a heads up. They were talking about working on the server, but i havent heard anything as of late. I hope they bring it back.
Runescape 3 is a game i still play on a regular basis but there are tons of instances where I believe it's not actually a server but I am living in a simulation of one from 2013. lol
omgosh i remember not playing the matrix mmorpg because I thought it might take over my life and I wanted to play knights of the old republic and ended up not playing that either because it got delayed and fell into runescape 2 and it was like 20 years. lol
Ill tell you one game im really sad shut down. Worlds Adrift, game was so fun to play just a chill game you could hop on with some friends and relax build a cool floating ship and explore. Still have it in my steam library hoping they bring it back but there are other game devs making a game inspired by it think its called Nexus or something like that.
Funny, I played that Matrix online on that exact emulator a few weeks back myself. Awesome nostalgia but even when other are supposedly online its hard to actually find anyone. *tear*
I remember adverts for Pirates Online back in the day and it looked fucking awesome Looking at it now, it feels like it's probably more fun than Sea of Thieves
@Waydots yeah, and the 6th was on the way, but well, we all know what Amber did to prevent that happening. We've got a legendary attorney movie instead.
I would love to try silkroad online, kal online, or Risk your life, loved those games back in the day. Hey, that pirate game is better than skull and bones 😅
I highly doubt that kids are the one that's playing the modern Toontown. Actual younger generation are too busy playing Roblox, Fortnite, or even mobile trash; Instead of a social, role-playing MMO game about some anthropomorphic animals that appeals to a certain "group" of people. You even experienced it firsthand 😂
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Back in the day, my brother and I were big into Everquest. My little sister wanted to play with us, but she was too young. So mom tasked us with finding and MMO for her. We found Toontown and she was hooked.
Yo that Pirates of the Caribbean game is even beyond what "AAAA" devs can do today. I mean, open world, and you can land on any island and fight on foot! Watch out Skull & Bones.
A lot of older MMOs are far beyond what devs can do these days. Because, well, devs have no vision and no creativity. They have the audacity to claim you can't do the things MMOs were doing over 20 years. Fucking massive smucks.
Not even close. Either you haven't played an actual AAA game or you are as terrible at joking as this UA-camr is.
Dudeee pirates of the caribean online was such a hidden gem, the ships battle, the enemy raiding the islands at certain point of the day, seeing every player defending the island agains the skeletons.
Such a good mechanics and game for its year, wish some company made a game with some of the features.
i loved that game, my brother dad and i would play it for hours everyday
I forgot about that game, that was a massive part of my pre-runescape childhood
lowkey black flags wishes their boat combat was as good as pirates of the Caribbean online
Isn't there P-Server for that game ? might as well support for it doesn't completely die .. hopefully someone brings back Wildstar, not my favorite but still was a unique MMORPG that didn't deserve too die.
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I actually went to college with one of the devs for the pirates of the Caribbean mmo, he was use super passionate about bringing the game back to life
No way, that's awesome. You can tell the developers at the time had a lot of passion for it. Certainly an ambitious project for 2006
Back to life, how? You mean after the closure? If so, he or she would have had to comply with Disney's NDA agreement and this..."is" what keeps original developers from active participation (for the future).
Thanks for taking a look at Matrix Online! It's my favorite MMO of all time. The eerie feeling you had may have been amplified by the emptiness of the server, but it was kind of always like that, I think by design. The city was grimy and felt unsafe, there were gangs of secret vampires and werewolves and fallen angels, a lot of the locations and lore were biblical references, and the plot - in which you were a 'redpill' who knew the nature of the Matrix and had to protect the innocent and unaware 'bluepills' - was pretty high-concept for an MMO. I think it failed for the same reasons I loved it - it wasn't colorful or friendly or swashbuckling, it was gritty and gray with a focus on secrets and conspiracies.
Late comment but if you ever find a game with WASD not being usable and its direction buttons as default. Press FN+w on keyboard. This swaps wasd and directional buttons letting you still use WASD to move around. Just remember to swap it back if you want to type anything ^^
Toontown Rewritten gave my wife and I a MMORPG bonding experience lol. We played a bit last year until we needed a larger party to raid the Cogs HQ.
Tera and Elyon are part of these who exist only under the form of private servers these days. Tera had fantastic combat for its time, while I remember Elyon mostly for its character creation and how you had the option of open-world player housing (albeit with rent)...
Menma's Tera is my most played game on the Steam Deck. Such a perfect game.
This is a cool premise for a video. :) A couple of honorary mentions that are run by fans of the game today):
City of Heroes (and villains) - fantastic game.
Warhammer Online - Age Of Reckoning
Pirates of the Burning Sea - best in class ship combat, IMO. Sort of.
And the golden oldie STILL run by the original developer, with new graphic engine, and free to play without stupid monetization:
Anarchy Online, by Funcom - this was a classic before even World of Warcraft (but everquest was earlier.).
I remember playing Matrix Online, while the listening to an online DJ (through winamp) while dancing in the in game night clubs. They would make call outs and stuff and those clubs had close to 30 people just hanging out and talking. With endgame fashion of course... good, nerdy times. Thank you Waydot
My first ever "MMO" so to speak was Pangya, and at the time I started playing it was called Albatross18. It shut down and got revived many times before finally shutting down for good. There are private servers still, but it's not quite the same as it was. I miss it with all of my heart. Maybe I'll give a private server another try sometime.
I'd love to hear you talk about Corporate Clash, which is another Toontown private server. They added a lot to the game, including 16 new bosses.
I was a huge pirates online player back in the day, it was my first mmorpg
I love the recreation, as someone who played it when it was new they have done an AMAZING job!
Love that I saw ToonTown, my cousin and I have been having a good time on Corporate Clash and ReWritten!
Two games I used to play, one of them a lot more than the other, Firefall which I still miss, had decent gameplay with alright progression, the ability to essentially mine resources just about anywhere and random folk could join in to help was nice, and the other was Global Agenda, though I don't remember if it was ever really an MMO persay
fire videeoooo, you should do warhammer and dark age of camelot. True gems in my childhood.
I have discovered you just recently, and I must say, I was missing a lot, totally love your videos. Watching the „MMO for the first time” series I thought, maybe RuneScape 3 from a new player perspective? I know you have played it for a long time, but I think that could be useful for someone who has never touched it :) Keep up the great work!
Thanks man glad you have been enjoying the content :)
The “nefarious” actions going on in toon town 😂 you told that one….rabbit thin? It stank while it was giving the glug glug 4000
Hellgate London might be a good game to look into for another video like this.
I feel so bad for Billy. He doesn't look like he's happy breathing.
2nd ever MMORPG I've played was FusionFall, and I highly recommend giving it a go for everyone. There are private servers to experience the sheer ambience and the passion that went into it back in the time. I still love it dearly despite it's dated (heavily so) combat system.
Seriously! If you're reading this and never experienced Pirates Online, you need to check it out! This game was way ahead of it's time and kept me glued playing on my crappy Windows 2000 computer.
Dungeon Runners is a game that nobody seems to touch on. If you do another one of these. Please tackle that! Its NCSofts spoof of WoW and the Treasure Gnomes were HILARIOUS.
When I was 10 I loved Pirates of the Caribbean Online haha. I can not believe they have a private server for it!! I MUST DOWNLOAD NOW!!
Toon town rewritten is fun but you should seriously give corporate class a try. They the base toontown expirence and overhauled it. There are new gags, new mechanics, new cogs, crazy bosses. Its all really amazing.
As for another MMO that has been brought back, Monster Hunter Frontier has a number of private servers available and has the largest range of monsters available in a game in the franchise. Its also been translated to English as the game was never released in the west.
it should be made a congressional law that all games after a certain period of time ; that the source codes for the games are public record. if they do this. many games of old will be fixed and updated correctly. even new games will be created from that source code. it could be a boon for coders
Lmao everything has to involve the stupid government
That Warhammer Online tease :( I really enjoyed that game, but EverQuest won (and still wins) my monthly sub dollars.
I gave The Matrix Online a fair shake back in the day, since it was part of my EQ subscription. It...wasn't good. The devs certainly tried a lot of interesting ideas though.
@10:51 many of the things that are missing ; are pieces of code that were apparently stored on the companies servers. companies do this ; specifically for this reason. time goes by and someone wants to play this again; and i get it; but from company standpoint; you can go kick a tree lol. all online games are like this. many features will just be gone. and many of them might be critical to the game itself.
Man I used to play pirates online on dial up on my huge gray monitor for hours lol was a great time
Billy Badbeard is probably the most comical character I've seen yet.. 🤣
I remember playing this weird game that was advertised as similar to runescape. It was a laggy chat game that had two other "chat games". One was a tropical beach you could drive a car and the other was a space game where you were on the moon and could drive a rover and there was a smaller moon you could jet pack to. I was like 11 years old at the time. A lot of creeps on there were always E-dating eachother.
I remember the space one! And definitely true about the creeps😂 ha
Toontown rewritten needs a deeper dive…
I agree
I'm a little surprised you didn't check out Earth and Beyond in this video, hopefully you'll look at it in the future!
Let's gooo, he keeps putting them out! love these man
WildStar... That still hurts that it got shutdown :(
I think we all lost part of our soul that day
The Matrix Online was my very first MMO. So nostalgic
City of Heroes! this was my first MMO and man i miss it.
Homecoming private server, my friend
LEGO Universe would be perfect if this becomes a series. Was a subscription-service mmorpg from 2010-2012.
Was finally made playable again sometime within the last 5 years. Setup isn't that difficult, and some discords run servers so you could actually experience the game with players again.
i liked ToonTown's system and wished a fantasy one would pop one day using it. Unlike other turn based, other players can join directly on the fly.
More please! City of heroes actually exists again, the ip holder formed agreement with the big private server network and it's legit now!
please please do a pirates online deep dive. it is *such* a fun game, and the ship combat is crazy engaging for the time it was created. Sort of a precursor to Sea of thieves, in a way.
for me it is Vanguard, it has really great ideas like diplomacy, great classes like bard who made his own spells, necromancer that designed his minions, best crafting ever, great fishing etc.
and as far as games never made, my biggest regret is Mythica from microsoft GS - it could have been great
Who remembers Monkey Quest?
Oh lord toontown; fever dream. I knew i played this but no one else believes me about it!!
Ahh man! I love the contents. Please keep it up!
I was one of the thousands of Matrix Online beta testers in 2005 before launch and then stayed on as a paying customer until about mid-2006 or so. It was crazy fun at first, when Monolith was developing the game, but Sony Online Entertainment basically ruined the game after they took over. I kept up with what was going on in the game because of friends still playing, all the way to the crazy way it ended when SOE pulled the plug in 2009, but it was a real shame the way everything went down.
will you ever play fusion fall? the cartoon network MMO? i know there is a private server for it
Holy shit I forgot that existed
Endless online is a less known about rpg that just recently got og servers released might be worth checking out
I still get on TLOPO from time to time. Honestly, in 2024, it's still a fun game.
They should be forced to release source code like 15 years after the game dies completely. Books and Movies go into the public domain, why can't games??
Wait I remember pirates online. That was an extremely fun time back then. Me and my brother a two man crew taking out bigger ships for the the country we worked with , Deutschland. now i don't actually remember if that was the actual name of the country, i only remember that it was related to the dutch. Good times. now i am nostalgic.
Matrix online was a lot of fun. I loved my time in there back in the day
the pirates of the caribian game was ahead of its time for sure. wow. kinda wish i played it in it's hay-day.
edit: low poly aside, the faces are actually really well done. and the combat looked amazing for the era. I'd watch more
Wildstar, iris online, battlefield heroes. Miss them very much
another good one, and it really really could of been the best, is the story of AoC (the proper one age of conan) but how funcom fecked it up by rushing release, i remember playing beta and opening day, the buzz was amazing until you got to about level 20 then hit the bad zone, no-one could pass it due to bugs etc not tested, was rushed out..
That game was and still is ahead of its time, Tortuga island is some of hte best area ive ever played
I wanna be able to play Everquest: Online Frontiers the PS2 game again. I had so much fun as a kid playing it. I even had a rare discontinued item u had to get by doing a tough quest that got discontinued. Then a about two years later they closed the servers. 😢 i miss that kind of experience. The simple but fun MMO'S, wish they would remake it in modern graphics.
If you want an almost dead, forgotten MMO I recommend Voyage Century Online. Kinda RuneScape clone in naval theme. Recently IGG closed the VCO due to some drama, but Bounty Bay Online from developer Snail Games still exists. BBO is VCO but from a different company
Could you elaborate on the drama with IGG?
@@LotusPetal I wish to give you all the details but it's all hazy. I found some info that Snail Games (developer) is broke, but how that translates to IGG I don't know. I found some videos like this: ua-cam.com/video/1lgS_fES3ZY/v-deo.html
The matrix online has a discord group. Just a heads up. They were talking about working on the server, but i havent heard anything as of late. I hope they bring it back.
Earth Eternal from Sparkplay Media was one MMO I used to play back in the day!
Did you try "Neo Steam" ? it was an old steampunk mmorpg.
I would love to see a video of you trying Age of Wushu and Dungeon Fighter Online
Awesome video, for sure i wanna see more of it!
wow that pirate mmo was a throw back
Runescape 3 is a game i still play on a regular basis but there are tons of instances where I believe it's not actually a server but I am living in a simulation of one from 2013. lol
omgosh i remember not playing the matrix mmorpg because I thought it might take over my life and I wanted to play knights of the old republic and ended up not playing that either because it got delayed and fell into runescape 2 and it was like 20 years. lol
Vanguard: Saga of Heroes is another one you should check out. I loved the unique classes it had, also it had some great music
Ill tell you one game im really sad shut down. Worlds Adrift, game was so fun to play just a chill game you could hop on with some friends and relax build a cool floating ship and explore.
Still have it in my steam library hoping they bring it back but there are other game devs making a game inspired by it think its called Nexus or something like that.
Loved Toontown as a kid! The cogs always kinda scared me haha
Oop, that depp reference killed it for me, were you in a cave? Bye bye
Pirates Online went so hard. Loved the sailing, my friend's mum got him members so he had a giant shit and we just bullied people. 10/10 memories
PLEASE TRY TORAM ONLINE.. the game is so underrated but doesn't get much attention the story is so good
I think I still have the disc for pirates of the carribean soemwhere
"Awakened disciples" LMAO
TLOPO is an awesome game i still play it to this day
you should look for Elsword and Grand Fantasia
pretty popular MMOs back in the day
man this makes me miss Rusty Hearts and phantasy star online blue burst
Silkroad online and Tibia MMO were good games. Tibia still online , and Silkroad has still some private servers
Bro Silk Road !!! Everytime I mention that game everyone just thinks of the black market lol
Funny, I played that Matrix online on that exact emulator a few weeks back myself. Awesome nostalgia but even when other are supposedly online its hard to actually find anyone. *tear*
you forgot the Lego MMO "Lego Universe" :D
Pirates was so fun
I remember adverts for Pirates Online back in the day and it looked fucking awesome
Looking at it now, it feels like it's probably more fun than Sea of Thieves
should check out the progression of Dragon's Dogma Online Revival, since 2 is coming soon
TOONTOWN OMG Memory Unlocked
Pleasee if you do a second part of this, try Fusion Fall an MMO from CARTOON NERWORK!
Wildstar was so epic i miss it :/
another good mmo that was shutdown before it was released in the west was Dragon ball Online . theres a fan translated version thats out
ugh i wish we'd get a modern matrix online
I miss PS2's everquest online adventures frontier
Wait Pirates of the Caribbean tutorial was the prologue of the 5th movie literally even the name. Dead Man Tell No Tales.
There was FIVE movies?! Well then.. I would have bet my lifesavings there was only 3
@Waydots yeah, and the 6th was on the way, but well, we all know what Amber did to prevent that happening. We've got a legendary attorney movie instead.
I would love to try silkroad online, kal online, or Risk your life, loved those games back in the day. Hey, that pirate game is better than skull and bones 😅
You need to play Phantasy Star Universe for this. Sega shut it down and a group rebuilt it. Great game. A bit directionless though.
Anyone remember Last Chaos?
Been playing Tlopo for years! Good past time game.
my brother used to be obsessed with lego universe lol
I miss wildstar ;w;
What’s that game called at 1:12 ?? I’ve been trying to remember for so long
Warhammer bro and it has an active private server
Star Wars was A LONG LONG TIME AGO, In a galaxy FAR FAR AWAY! @11:20
legend of mir 2
I highly doubt that kids are the one that's playing the modern Toontown.
Actual younger generation are too busy playing Roblox, Fortnite, or even mobile trash; Instead of a social, role-playing MMO game about some anthropomorphic animals that appeals to a certain "group" of people. You even experienced it firsthand 😂