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4:55 Its German Jagd alles (Space missing) = Hunting everything or all Schneiden = Cut Strumfried is wrong -> Sturmfried = Is a Name / Family Name (rather from the Middle Ages), or Streetname in Germany. Sturm -> Storm in englisch. Regen gift (also missing a Space) = Rain Poison Schwarzwind = Blackwind Schon flieg (Space missing) = Already fly (This Makes no sense in German, sounds like: Are you flying yet, but in German we didnt say "Schon flieg'". A Kid thats play with a little plane would say "Komm flieg schon = Come on fly")
it's really sad when you return to an MMO you used to enjoy as a kid. Gaia online's ZOMG was so massive that it wasn't hard to find parties you can join to finish really difficult areas (like almost impossible to do alone because you will need support and healers) Now it's so empty. Just NPCs and mobs. No life in sight :(
please give Continent of Ninth a few more hours play.. i know it will be more time consuming n lots of hack n slash.... but if u can get pass lvl 50s ur in da good....
I remember me and my high school friend used to play WOW in 2007, now we had our own family, everyone kinda stops playing. I tried to play it again out of boredom. It really makes me sad, seeing my team online almost everyday, now alone
I remember the day that one of the private servers on Ragnarok Online i was playing on lost its players, it was so lonely but I was advancing pretty far on it. atleast until the server shut down the next week after
Avabel used to be a good MMO in 2015, but asobimo (devs and pubs) fkked up, by tampering with player's RMT circulation they removed stall and trading system, and then add a gacha system.
Not to mention there are so many class and class branches in this game. I hope asimbo remasters it. Toram online is still good though, even with the outdated graphics the gameplay is far beat from other mind numbing mmos.
Avabel...it's also on the phone. It's likely more popular there than on PC, and I doubt it's a crossed platform game. I've played Toram years ago on mobile (from the same devs), and it's definitely the more popular one between the two still.
Man, dying MMOs are truly different. I used to play City of Steam Arkadia or whatever it was called, and when thr company announced they were closing, they just gave everyone everything. All the premium items, all the mounts, etc. Was a fun, chaotic, last few weeks. Definitely still missing it. Anyone else had the same experience with dying games? Woule love to hear 'em
I used to play lots of metin2 back in the day. I remember going to a dungeon and farming some spiders with my OP +9 upgraded sword and all my friends at the time thought i was the strongest guy on the server because of it. The graphics were shiny and Metin2 was actually huge back in the day. I actually played without even understanding proper english since it’s not my first language and i was young, but with a few “hey mom can you come and translate this for me” and trial and error, i powered through xD. I logged on some months ago and it was basically a ghost town. However i did discover that a private server was made, by random people and that one has a strong 10k daily players. And you’re right, there’s something about a dying MMO. It may just be the feeling that you know a lot of people were there, who had fun and now moved on with their lives. Like when you re-visit your childhood home or neighborhood but it’s not what it used to be.
I played Dragon Saga, when local publisher announced they decided to not prolong contract, they gave unlimited cash shop currency and that was when i got my first +20 (max refinement) weapon. I remember the crowd on main square of novice city, it was fun despite being the goodbye party.
The skills were all in German, there were just some spaces missing. "Schwarzwind"= Black Wind "Schneiden"= Cut "Regen Gift" = Rain poison " Jagd alles" = hunt all Sturmfried = a last name Schon Flieg = just flying
Jagd alles is definitely a weird one. What youd expect is "Alles Jagen", but i assume that didnt sound pretentious/cool enough. what its like now just says hunt all like you said, but hunt as in the concept of a hunt, the noun hunt. im asssuming they used translate and were happy.
C9 has one of the best combat systems of all the MMO out there. I remembered spending hundreds of hours grinding for items in dungeon, creating so many characters just to find out their playstyle. Fun time.
@@ipkandkill the thing is this guy only shows the state of that game today with the port on steam, Avabel was a great mobile mmo at its peak, dominating from 2013 to 2018, imagine that it had different servers depending on your language, the auto hunt button did not exist and it was necessary to farm everything to upload and improve, like any good mmorpg, like someone said in the comments the game was ruined by asobimo with his decisions and his implementation of excessive p2w, it is sad that today we are only left with a few high level guilds that "keep the game alive" just because despite everything it is our point meeting even we know how bad that game is but at this point it is the love for what it used to be that keeps us playing it
If i remember right,AVABEL was made by the same team behind TORAM that also made several others,it was pretty good back in the day, though TORAM is the only one surviving,i remember going on the subreddit two months ago and the community was really helpful still for new players
Don't lie to yourself because of nostalgia for garbage lol. Every early mobile game like this was horrible. The devs were incompetent, the company was a cash cow going by literally 37 different fake names to get new attention, and the playerbase were the types of people who weren't smart enough to play real mmos, and weren't skilled enough to compete with so much as a 8 year old n64 player. Not toxic? How could they be when there's no game to play? Like if you enjoy a game that effectively beats itself by mashing on your screen, you might want to consider candy crush. Not trying to be mean, but there is no excuse for justifying such money hungry garbage. They simply took advantage of the ignorant for 12 years straight. In every category there are 10 games that do it better.
@@chara777 I think you're the one lying to yourself honestly. These were pretty good games for their times, especially when it's on mobile. You don't need high graphics or some sophisticated story or such to get someone to enjoy the game. If you needed such to be considered a good game, whatever the fuck happen to games like Runescape and such. Actually, reading more of your comment and how salty and hateful you're acting, were you perhaps cheating or some shit and got banned lmao.
@@randomness4989keyword was, Its a super old mmo game. Sadly asombimo fked up badly. It has so many classes all with ALOT of branches with skills, had a mediocre story but so many mechanics.
@@randomness4989 that shit was released on 2013 on mobile with pure skill based peak pvp system (prolly still the best rn in mobile category). imagine playing that while others can only play candy crush, subway surfers, temple run at that time lol
Recently found your channel and I've been thoroughly enjoying all your "first time player" videos. The deadpan sarcasm is the cherry on top. Keep up the good work!!
Hey there, I am a big MMO fan so please allow me to explain what you experienced. Avabel: The game is super duper old, it was originally a "great" game for tablets. And I am talking about when the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 was in the market. I remember playing this game exactly on that device, and I did actually enjoy it. You used to get only a few hundreds of XP and the new player experience was completely different. I kinda loved it because it was mostly about "go kill enemies, level up, go to the guild to learn new skills and buy new weapons, repeat" which was amazing for a game on a tablet more than a decade ago. I guess the current new player experience is designed to let you reach the end content as soon as possible (which is a common thing in super old MMOs) Howl Breath: Never heard of it. I usually don't play indie MMOs because an MMO is the least indie-friendly genre ever for videogames Echo of Soul: Came from an era where pretty much everyone was making a Free to Play MMO. They did pretty much all look the same. It has the same problem as Avabel where they want you to rush all the early game content as quick as possible Continent of the Ninth: Okay this is the real deal. Originally known as C9, this game was my absolute favourite MMORPG for it's period. I remember it was super boring at the beginning because the first classes are like tutorial classes, at lvl 20 you can change class. Thare are a SHITTON of classes. Like, the Warrior alone has 5 classes to choose at lvl 20. Same for the other ones, with a total of 24 classes (the Mystic was the newest and it only had 4 classes to choose at lvl 20). And that's basically the moment the game gets good. You start unlocking super fun skills and the more you level up, the more skills you have to have fun with. I used to play with an Elementalist (a Shaman class) and it had the power to fly and cast long ranged spells. I remember in PvP people insulting me because I was basically an untouchable god, spending the whole time on air throwing thunders and fireballs at them, while they could just run away. The downside is that it's a cannonglass, the moment they manage to get their hands on you, you are dead meat
omg I used to play EOS (Echo of Soul) back in the day when it was still alive. there was probably thousands of players playing together with me when I logged in and it really felt like another world I could escape into! I could just complete quests and raid some dungeons with random people or go into PvP mode to level up quick. didn't expect that it would appear here :) such nostalgia when I saw that loading screen. it was truly great at its time, sad to see it ended abruptly because of some management failures :(
man, avabel. what a nostalgic game. back then, there were players EVERYWHERE. seeing the tutorial without a single player really hits hard, man. the game used to be so alive back in 2018
You should definitely make videos about this game. Gameplay highlights or random stuffs; if you like the game I think this is kind of great thing to do for archiving memories. :3
That twitter button seems like the most normal thing ever, it was literally just a link to twitter. Seeing as you were already logged onto twitter, it was seamless and it copy and pasted whatever you wrote.
Echo of souls was my fav mmo back in 2015, battlefield pvp was fun, you thrown at an arena with 7 vs 7 team battle (or 5 v 5 i forgot) with a goal to destroy other team base. The guild war was most chaotic, you transported to a realm with all other guilds of hundreds of player. The quest are boring, like most classic mmorpg (colecting and kill things), used it as level up to unlock more gameplay mode.
the last part is C9, the game is really fun at the time, i used to play that with my university friend till i am the one left playing that game. it brings so much nostalgic feeling whenever i saw it
Man I loved Avabel back in the day. Played on mobile and it was pretty much one of the closest experiences to an SAO floor climbing game before actual SAO games came out. Not that SAO was all that good, but was definitely a cool experience
I was a player of C9 as Witchblade, became Bladedancer later. I was having fun in those day with by friends. The combat in PVP is like you are boxing. 1 wrong move can be lethal for you.
Avabel was actually amazing back in the day, before trade wasnt removed and gacha and auto fighting was introduced. playerbase was big as well, deffo one of top android mmorpg
I'll bet EOS is set up that way (with all the teleports) in order to get you through the older "seasons" to the end-game content. Korean MMOs often do this so that players who create new characters can get them up to speed without getting bored...because people usually don't spend real money on characters before they reach the end-game.
I don't know what Continent of the Ninth Golden is but Continent of the Ninth Seal was actually a great game for some action pvp. Sad that it just died out like the way it did without many people even knowing the game.
It honestly is my fav mmo, but It died when P2W joined the chat. Up until when max lvl was 60 the game was super balanced in pve and pvp , now only if you have given a kidney or been playing for 5 years non stop you can do anything
funny that we had games like tales of pirates that they pulled the plug with many players, and later had so many non oficial pirate servers that they brought the game vack
You should totally try out MMOs that have been officially shut down by their developers/publishers, but that are still kept alive by their community. Star Wars Galaxies, Wildstar, Matrix Online, etc
avabel was one of the first open world mmo on phone n it was pretty sweet when i first played it. Couldn't play for long cuz it made my phone hotter than the sun back then
i used to play Echo of souls back in the day when it was good. no teleporting unless in big cities or some campsites. no lagging and beautiful landscape later on. the first quests are always kill quests till you get out of the first part. i miss the good old times where you would roam around the World of EOS with active players. Bring back my game man.
I played in SEA server back in 2015 I think. The problem being it doesn't take long after launch for people to stop playing PvE content. I enjoyed exploring into new maps but the was seriously lack of players. There are tons of player in PvP and it was sure addicting. The change class system was fun too.
This is waaaaaaaay too funny and engaging haha youve earned a sub! Ive played EOS and C9 awhile back and this is so nostalgic. Definitely one of the best way back then.
wow avabel was my first MMO it's been almost 10 years since last i played. i loved when people just sit down on the ground on the main cities just to talk, it was awesome
Didn’t expect avabel to make it here, it used to be a very packed game back in the 2012 - 2017 eras but they messed it all up & lost all of the palyers
C9 actually was a really good game when it came out. It's gameplay and graphics were really unique for the time, the game excelled on it's PvP elements, it was truly fun.
Depending on the serverwide talking daily reward, i bet its to prevent the mass spam of gold sellers. As a former aion player ( NCsoft/Gameforge ), i have seen it happen before many times that the chat was being abused with bots, advertising gold sales.
Jesus xmas 3:00 those leaf lizards were just hoping around, having a good time, thinking about candy and xmas cheer and here you come like a diesel fueled combine and indiscriminately start beating the sht outta them. 5 seconds into the game, and i already feel like a POS..
I played "EOS" a lot in 2017~2019. Seeing the game after so many years brought me a lot of memories! Nowadays I don't even have the courage to open the game because it's so bad compared to today's MMOS
So, about the last game, C9. I've been playing this game for a few years and i still sometimes come back to it. It had amazing combat system for the time, after 20lv You could pick a class and later on after 55+ level You could wear a skillbooks that greatly boosted You whole class... but P2W was also insane, You could buy gear boxes or instant upgrade stones from the cash shop and they all had ridiculous prices. The version You played on the video is C9 Golden, it's the same game but they decided to run it again on the clean servers (while the old one called Continent of the Ninth Seal was stil running) Ye, it's a piece of nostalgy ^^ the best non target combat system before BDO was released
Speaking of Obscure MMO: My favourite MMO of all time is Mabinogi. It's from 2004. It has currently a small but dedicated fanbase of players, so it's not dying. The game is super complex and deep, might be overwheming for new players, but if you understand how it works, it's amazing. I say it's obscure only because it currently has (according to steam) 320 people playing right now, with an all time peak of 1.191. You should consider tho that the game is also available from Nexon Launcher and I expect most players to be playing from there. In fact, you can see quite a lot of people in game
great time to advertise the game too since theres going to be a massive overhaul in the game engine they're going to use and alot of reworks so i cant wait to go back to mabinogi!
If you dont live in NA you need to use the nexon launcher just to play. Almost all the features of the game end up being power creep into your stats though. So basically you end up leveling up like 400 skills to get the most stats with soft lvl cap of 200. But you can reset it and get another 200 lvls every lvl gives AP which after getting to total lvl like 40,000 you end up only using AP to gamble rng stats onto items at the end of dungeon they added several years ago. Other than that pretty much everyone is afk bc they're always running events that require you to be online for 4-6 hours daily just to complete the quest and get items from it. And players bot the hell out of every event to sell the items. All of this is just scratching the surface bc theres a ton of p2w aspects like reforges and combo cards, on top of gacha only gear.
avabel was my first “mmo” i played for 2 years a while back, maybe 2014. the stuff you show is pretty different from what i remember, but i was pretty young and liked this game.
Never heard of this youtuber before, after watching a few videos, i love how un biased you are you see both sides its cool, you got a sub sir . Plus you got a chilled knowledgeable voice.
I liked and subbed as I'm always on the look out for MMORPGs to try out and this is good exposure even though most are dead or dying. I recently found myself looking for a new mmo and decided to try Scions of Fate again, which was an anime style mmorpg back in 2006. The game has potential but it's just obscenely obscure about everything. It is also one of those Korean grind-feast games where you'll get a quest every 5-6lvls and inbetween you just gotta grind, old fashioned grinding, standing in a field map, luring and aggroing every mob you can, maxing aggro range and piling them up for a massive AOE slash before that sweet 0.05% xp drop hits. It has a gacha shop, for the basic xp/gold boost trap. I saw maybe 5-6 players online, AFK and maxed with shiney sparkly gear. Never talked to anyone back in '06, less even nowadays lol I think things did change, a little, I managed to get to lv23 before hitting a grind wall, I remember back in '06 I barely made it to lv10. I would love your review on it xD specially since you hate anime stuff
Just jumped into wow for the first time since burning crusade. Ironforge was once so packed it became a RAM benchmark. Could barely set foot in it on my potato pc back then. It was a major hub for trading, guild recruiting, and just showing off your gear. Now it's empty. Not one damned soul. It felt like the world ended and I had slept through it. The bustling halls of Ironforge had become a mausoleum.
I played c9 for like 4 years back in the day, for me it's THE BEST fighting system till this day. What's cool about it's because there's skills where you use as "combo keys" like fighting games, for example: if you press S+Right click you use a certain skill, D or A+left click other, other thing is it's not a point click game, you NEED aim everything if you want to do dmg, so pvp was really skilled based. Anyways, C9 was really cool back in the day, the only problem was not being an open world game, but I had fun playing it :) Honestly I was hoping for a C9 2 or something like that to play it again, even the story is really cool
until a few years ago (like 6 or so, cant remember) the game dificulty was a lot harder, u really ahd to play with a party, friends or guild to be able to reach the mid to hight floors of the tower, was really fun, nowadays the game gives you an extreme ammount of xp for noreason and everything is automated, wich in the past didnt happend
This is the kind of content I've been wanting to see for years. too bad that you can't do this kind of content on online mobile games that are gone now.
"Just teleporting and lagging around while doing quests that only require you to kill one or two enemies. Getting random rewards that make no sense, and exploring essentially none of the beautiful world they have created. This game was beginning to feel like a fever dream, I think I was starting to get a headache while playing. The sound design and overall feel of the game with these random monotonous kill quests was starting to affect me. Existentially. This game is like a psychedelic trip gone wrong. An anxiety-filled space in which you just instantly appear wherever you're needed next." - every gamer trying to find a decent MMO in 2024
Boy me and friends played alot EoS back in 2015. The PvP (15v15 iirc) was quite addicting. They also give exp which leads to the vast map empty since nobody playing the PvE content.
From those games i've heard about Continent of the Ninth Golden but never played it and i've Played Echo of Soul for a few months when it was hot. I have fond memories of the game for that time i spent on it. My memory is very vague tho so i cannot recall much of it anymore. I remember running around the map and exploring with a friend. I reached end game and all that good stuff. It was an alright game for its time. edit: i read some comments and people recall echo of souls shutting down for abit so i guess that explains why i stopped it cause i personally enjoyed the game so couldnt recall why i stopped. Guess it got shutdown and i moved on never looking back at next releases it had.
Apparently Howlbreath is trying to remake an old 2D mmorpg called helbreath, the HUD design is literally the same. Helbreath was my first online game, it's was a pretty fun game during 2000's era with massive RvR.
Huge damage and exp values in that first game remind me of a game called 'Trillion'. At first it seemed like a novel concept - the BBEG has a trillion health that you have to take down - before you stop and think that it's just a matter of a factor. A boss with a trillion HP may as well have 100 HP if the only thing that changes is how much damage you deal yourself.
Echo of soul Classic, in it's prime was one of the best MMORPG even for Free players, it also had the best PvP system. But the Devs kept fracking up, not once or twice. they fracked up 11 times in a row which destroyed the game.
God.. Avabel. The nostalgia it brings. Used to be popular when it was mobile only but died after a few years. I dont remember being able to one shot or auto quest tho-
AQW and AQ3D are actually great- sadly havent played 3D since 2020 bc my laptop died (and I didnt have space on my old phone and forgot it existed after getting my new one last august)
@@I_Am_Bricks I really want to play them again when I get another pc but at the same time, I want to leave the nostalgia back in the past with all the good memories
This reminds me of the early 2000s where due to how hard it is to get an internet, i play leaked versions of Ragnarok Online that sets its server locally. Also the Continent one at the end looks like a combination between Dragon Nest and Dynasty Warriors
It should be noted that he played the play to earn version of C9. The normal version isn't as active as it used to be, but it's still played more than the play to earn one.
I feel ya, lot of steam games now a days say yeah game is open world but they don’t even have a player pool, they need to have the game free to play and introduce content as buyable items or skins
Ima rant.. Avabel (mobile) used to be good, but the devs changed so much that the only people who play these days are from Asia. Key change being they upped damage and overall stats of the player and streamlined progress to quickly get new players to start consuming end game content; hence why you’re given tons of EXP and Job EXP for killing normal monsters compared to the old Quest and Achievements rewards. There used to be so many weapons you could’ve worked to slowly conquer each floor and often times it wasnt enough which prompt players to actually work together to complete kill quest. But now youre kinda limited to an ultra weapon that’ll carry you way past the old floors and into the new ones that the devs oh so work hard on. They also removed the ability to multi class advance classes. It used to be after maxing out an Advance Class you get all the skills of said class and you’d move on to leveling up another Advance Class. Now you can’t even do that and instead you’re force down a combination of 2 Adv. Class combos that combine into an Ascension class. Note that even back then you could still combine mastered Adv. Classes when using an Ascension class, but after an update they locked you out from doing so. I get its for a balance issue, but combo potential for certain fighting styles kinda got ruined in the process. Instead of players pulling off wacky combos pulling skills from 6-8 Mastered Adv. Class + their Ascension Class you’re forced down a generic path that most MMOrpgs take when giving you skills to play with. Mastered Advance Classes also removed the weapon limits on their skill sets. Meaning a skill that wouldve required dual wielding guns can now be activated with daggers. But with the update thats down the drain too. It really bummed me out to the point I didnt even wanna play anymore so I stopped. A shame too since Ive been playing the game ever since it came out.
Another one, This is i want to see in a RPG. Griding. No Pay-to-win. No Gacha. Freely customization for your character. Large Open-World. Can choose to many class.
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4:55 Its German
Jagd alles (Space missing) = Hunting everything or all
Schneiden = Cut
Strumfried is wrong -> Sturmfried = Is a Name / Family Name (rather from the Middle Ages), or Streetname in Germany. Sturm -> Storm in englisch.
Regen gift (also missing a Space) = Rain Poison
Schwarzwind = Blackwind
Schon flieg (Space missing) = Already fly (This Makes no sense in German, sounds like: Are you flying yet, but in German we didnt say "Schon flieg'". A Kid thats play with a little plane would say "Komm flieg schon = Come on fly")
it's really sad when you return to an MMO you used to enjoy as a kid. Gaia online's ZOMG was so massive that it wasn't hard to find parties you can join to finish really difficult areas (like almost impossible to do alone because you will need support and healers)
Now it's so empty. Just NPCs and mobs. No life in sight :(
please give Continent of Ninth a few more hours play.. i know it will be more time consuming n lots of hack n slash.... but if u can get pass lvl 50s ur in da good....
come play chimeraland bro. very good game except everything are in Chinese 😂😂
It's always kinda haunting and sad to hop into a dying or died MMO. The same feeling you get when you walk into an abandoned school or park
Especially if it's new to you and you actually enjoy the game lol
Weird feelings. literally my thoughts when this video came in my recommendation
I remember me and my high school friend used to play WOW in 2007, now we had our own family, everyone kinda stops playing. I tried to play it again out of boredom. It really makes me sad, seeing my team online almost everyday, now alone
go to many abandoned schools?
I remember the day that one of the private servers on Ragnarok Online i was playing on lost its players, it was so lonely but I was advancing pretty far on it. atleast until the server shut down the next week after
Avabel used to be a good MMO in 2015, but asobimo (devs and pubs) fkked up, by tampering with player's RMT circulation they removed stall and trading system, and then add a gacha system.
ahhhh....asobimo. they peaked with toram online lol
@@menherafflesia toram suck lol
Accept it guys, none of these mmos were good games hehe
@@takodrew6043 Avabel with trading were great. You could actually become strong without paying.
@@takodrew6043Finally some said it
Avabel was a really good game when it first came out, was one of the top mmos on mobile. Untill it was ruined by the developer's greed.
server raids and i think there was pvp? i remember playing on my phone like in 2013 LOL
Not to mention there are so many class and class branches in this game. I hope asimbo remasters it. Toram online is still good though, even with the outdated graphics the gameplay is far beat from other mind numbing mmos.
Miss the buy/sell aystem
Same with Aurcus online
They're slowly doing the same with their another game Alchemia Story.
Never heard of them, would recommend doing more of this series
Not that popular now tbh, a lot of new game from the same company. Still, you may never heard of this company as well.
check my videos,im uploading some game play of dead mmos i have
Avabel...it's also on the phone. It's likely more popular there than on PC, and I doubt it's a crossed platform game. I've played Toram years ago on mobile (from the same devs), and it's definitely the more popular one between the two still.
They are just generic chinese mmo games which probably made by the same developer 😅
C9 is famous in my country 5-10 year ago i guess. for me its good game (in that time) but its have a lot of bug. i really enjoyed to find bug in town
Man, dying MMOs are truly different. I used to play City of Steam Arkadia or whatever it was called, and when thr company announced they were closing, they just gave everyone everything.
All the premium items, all the mounts, etc. Was a fun, chaotic, last few weeks.
Definitely still missing it.
Anyone else had the same experience with dying games? Woule love to hear 'em
I used to play lots of metin2 back in the day. I remember going to a dungeon and farming some spiders with my OP +9 upgraded sword and all my friends at the time thought i was the strongest guy on the server because of it. The graphics were shiny and Metin2 was actually huge back in the day. I actually played without even understanding proper english since it’s not my first language and i was young, but with a few “hey mom can you come and translate this for me” and trial and error, i powered through xD.
I logged on some months ago and it was basically a ghost town. However i did discover that a private server was made, by random people and that one has a strong 10k daily players.
And you’re right, there’s something about a dying MMO. It may just be the feeling that you know a lot of people were there, who had fun and now moved on with their lives. Like when you re-visit your childhood home or neighborhood but it’s not what it used to be.
I played Dragon Saga, when local publisher announced they decided to not prolong contract, they gave unlimited cash shop currency and that was when i got my first +20 (max refinement) weapon. I remember the crowd on main square of novice city, it was fun despite being the goodbye party.
Bro i loved that game. Wish it could be remaked
Yeah it's all about the memories & friends we make along the way... Truly a mixed feeling of joy,sad,etc
@eagle5818 Dang I used to play metin2 with my brother back in the days.... unlocked a memory😅
The skills were all in German, there were just some spaces missing.
"Schwarzwind"= Black Wind
"Schneiden"= Cut
"Regen Gift" = Rain poison
" Jagd alles" = hunt all
Sturmfried = a last name
Schon Flieg = just flying
Jagd alles is definitely a weird one. What youd expect is "Alles Jagen", but i assume that didnt sound pretentious/cool enough. what its like now just says hunt all like you said, but hunt as in the concept of a hunt, the noun hunt. im asssuming they used translate and were happy.
So poison is gift?
@@alphaweeb8580yes, "Gift" is poison in German :)
Healer using regen gift and his wounded friend is foaming his mouth: 👁👄👁
@@alphaweeb8580 In many languages, yes! Norwegian included.
C9 has one of the best combat systems of all the MMO out there. I remembered spending hundreds of hours grinding for items in dungeon, creating so many characters just to find out their playstyle. Fun time.
OMG I PLAYED AVABEL FOR LIKE 4 YEARS STRAIGHT THIS JUST BROUGHT BACK SO MANY MEMORIES
Ya but kinda sad,that server now is full bot😢
same, was a blast of nostalgia
yeah i still have pictures of me and my guild members too
good ol days
Why would you waste that much time on this terrible game?
@@ipkandkill the thing is this guy only shows the state of that game today with the port on steam, Avabel was a great mobile mmo at its peak, dominating from 2013 to 2018, imagine that it had different servers depending on your language, the auto hunt button did not exist and it was necessary to farm everything to upload and improve, like any good mmorpg, like someone said in the comments the game was ruined by asobimo with his decisions and his implementation of excessive p2w, it is sad that today we are only left with a few high level guilds that "keep the game alive" just because despite everything it is our point meeting even we know how bad that game is but at this point it is the love for what it used to be that keeps us playing it
C9 is famous in SEA 5-10 year ago , that time is so fun
Non ladder pvp was so fun
it was one of the GOATs in its own time.
C9 was one of my favourite MMO's when lvl 12 you get some skills and it keeps getting better from there
If i remember right,AVABEL was made by the same team behind TORAM that also made several others,it was pretty good back in the day, though TORAM is the only one surviving,i remember going on the subreddit two months ago and the community was really helpful still for new players
Toram brings back so many memories for me
same i still play it sometimes if im immenselu bored lol
I love Toram, I really need to log back in and finish my katana build
Don't lie to yourself because of nostalgia for garbage lol.
Every early mobile game like this was horrible.
The devs were incompetent, the company was a cash cow going by literally 37 different fake names to get new attention, and the playerbase were the types of people who weren't smart enough to play real mmos, and weren't skilled enough to compete with so much as a 8 year old n64 player.
Not toxic? How could they be when there's no game to play?
Like if you enjoy a game that effectively beats itself by mashing on your screen, you might want to consider candy crush.
Not trying to be mean, but there is no excuse for justifying such money hungry garbage. They simply took advantage of the ignorant for 12 years straight. In every category there are 10 games that do it better.
@@chara777 I think you're the one lying to yourself honestly. These were pretty good games for their times, especially when it's on mobile. You don't need high graphics or some sophisticated story or such to get someone to enjoy the game. If you needed such to be considered a good game, whatever the fuck happen to games like Runescape and such.
Actually, reading more of your comment and how salty and hateful you're acting, were you perhaps cheating or some shit and got banned lmao.
Avabel was such a throwback game. I played that game since its released and enjoyed it long time. Sniper Class was so fun to use those days.
Bro how did you enjoy that mess?? The VGI is literally white lines that you can create in secs in python,2 models to choose from
@@randomness4989 its was a good good game
@@randomness4989keyword was, Its a super old mmo game. Sadly asombimo fked up badly. It has so many classes all with ALOT of branches with skills, had a mediocre story but so many mechanics.
@@randomness4989trust me you just had to be there 2012 - 2017 avabel was peak.
@@randomness4989 that shit was released on 2013 on mobile with pure skill based peak pvp system (prolly still the best rn in mobile category). imagine playing that while others can only play candy crush, subway surfers, temple run at that time lol
This would be an iconic series to follow. Genuinely hope you continue with stuff like this!
This is the gritty version of Josh Strife Hayes that I didnt know i needed. Great video Waydot.
Recently found your channel and I've been thoroughly enjoying all your "first time player" videos. The deadpan sarcasm is the cherry on top. Keep up the good work!!
Hey there, I am a big MMO fan so please allow me to explain what you experienced.
Avabel: The game is super duper old, it was originally a "great" game for tablets. And I am talking about when the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 was in the market. I remember playing this game exactly on that device, and I did actually enjoy it. You used to get only a few hundreds of XP and the new player experience was completely different. I kinda loved it because it was mostly about "go kill enemies, level up, go to the guild to learn new skills and buy new weapons, repeat" which was amazing for a game on a tablet more than a decade ago. I guess the current new player experience is designed to let you reach the end content as soon as possible (which is a common thing in super old MMOs)
Howl Breath: Never heard of it. I usually don't play indie MMOs because an MMO is the least indie-friendly genre ever for videogames
Echo of Soul: Came from an era where pretty much everyone was making a Free to Play MMO. They did pretty much all look the same. It has the same problem as Avabel where they want you to rush all the early game content as quick as possible
Continent of the Ninth: Okay this is the real deal. Originally known as C9, this game was my absolute favourite MMORPG for it's period. I remember it was super boring at the beginning because the first classes are like tutorial classes, at lvl 20 you can change class. Thare are a SHITTON of classes. Like, the Warrior alone has 5 classes to choose at lvl 20. Same for the other ones, with a total of 24 classes (the Mystic was the newest and it only had 4 classes to choose at lvl 20). And that's basically the moment the game gets good. You start unlocking super fun skills and the more you level up, the more skills you have to have fun with.
I used to play with an Elementalist (a Shaman class) and it had the power to fly and cast long ranged spells. I remember in PvP people insulting me because I was basically an untouchable god, spending the whole time on air throwing thunders and fireballs at them, while they could just run away. The downside is that it's a cannonglass, the moment they manage to get their hands on you, you are dead meat
omg I used to play EOS (Echo of Soul) back in the day when it was still alive. there was probably thousands of players playing together with me when I logged in and it really felt like another world I could escape into! I could just complete quests and raid some dungeons with random people or go into PvP mode to level up quick. didn't expect that it would appear here :) such nostalgia when I saw that loading screen. it was truly great at its time, sad to see it ended abruptly because of some management failures :(
man, avabel. what a nostalgic game. back then, there were players EVERYWHERE. seeing the tutorial without a single player really hits hard, man. the game used to be so alive back in 2018
LOL NO Way 4:03 (Shin) is me 😂 is real me WTF
Not a bot? 😂
wouldn't admit to playing this trash bro lmao
@@MyWhiteAbodemaybe if you're insecure about what internet strangers would think of you 💀
You should definitely make videos about this game. Gameplay highlights or random stuffs; if you like the game I think this is kind of great thing to do for archiving memories. :3
Your editing, your voice over and quality are good. This channel will definitely reach the top.
Thanks man i really appreciate that. :)
Thanks for making this. I just kept laughing. Your delivery is somewhere between serious and deadpan and it is phenomenal.
That twitter button seems like the most normal thing ever, it was literally just a link to twitter. Seeing as you were already logged onto twitter, it was seamless and it copy and pasted whatever you wrote.
9:55 "I ate the baguette and apparently it gave me some experience"
As a Frenchman, I approve of this game !
🤣
Echo of souls was my fav mmo back in 2015, battlefield pvp was fun, you thrown at an arena with 7 vs 7 team battle (or 5 v 5 i forgot) with a goal to destroy other team base.
The guild war was most chaotic, you transported to a realm with all other guilds of hundreds of player.
The quest are boring, like most classic mmorpg (colecting and kill things), used it as level up to unlock more gameplay mode.
the last part is C9, the game is really fun at the time, i used to play that with my university friend till i am the one left playing that game. it brings so much nostalgic feeling whenever i saw it
I remember when playing C9 in my childhood this game was the GOAT of its time in my country in Thailand.
Man I loved Avabel back in the day. Played on mobile and it was pretty much one of the closest experiences to an SAO floor climbing game before actual SAO games came out. Not that SAO was all that good, but was definitely a cool experience
I was a player of C9 as Witchblade, became Bladedancer later. I was having fun in those day with by friends. The combat in PVP is like you are boxing. 1 wrong move can be lethal for you.
Echo of Soul, I played this game when It came out on Aeria games. Was fun for a bit
I agree!
was very confused when i played eco of soul that i confused it with tera, best mistake in my entire life, tera was goated!
i miss that game =...)
Avabel was actually amazing back in the day, before trade wasnt removed and gacha and auto fighting was introduced. playerbase was big as well, deffo one of top android mmorpg
Sunset world does look really great!
I'll bet EOS is set up that way (with all the teleports) in order to get you through the older "seasons" to the end-game content. Korean MMOs often do this so that players who create new characters can get them up to speed without getting bored...because people usually don't spend real money on characters before they reach the end-game.
I don't know what Continent of the Ninth Golden is but Continent of the Ninth Seal was actually a great game for some action pvp. Sad that it just died out like the way it did without many people even knowing the game.
It honestly is my fav mmo, but It died when P2W joined the chat.
Up until when max lvl was 60 the game was super balanced in pve and pvp , now only if you have given a kidney or been playing for 5 years non stop you can do anything
@@Baterodalo or just roll mystic. The balance went to shit after they introduced another OP class
@@АлександрСтавин I was Warden and was super OP until the Desert but after that it was complete shit unless it was all maxed
I used to play Avabel years ago, having a game like that on a phone was a blast, nice video !
funny that we had games like tales of pirates that they pulled the plug with many players, and later had so many non oficial pirate servers that they brought the game vack
You should totally try out MMOs that have been officially shut down by their developers/publishers, but that are still kept alive by their community. Star Wars Galaxies, Wildstar, Matrix Online, etc
avabel was one of the first open world mmo on phone n it was pretty sweet when i first played it. Couldn't play for long cuz it made my phone hotter than the sun back then
Dude I loved the format of this video, would be awesome to see more in a series like this!
i used to play Echo of souls back in the day when it was good. no teleporting unless in big cities or some campsites. no lagging and beautiful landscape later on. the first quests are always kill quests till you get out of the first part. i miss the good old times where you would roam around the World of EOS with active players. Bring back my game man.
I played in SEA server back in 2015 I think. The problem being it doesn't take long after launch for people to stop playing PvE content. I enjoyed exploring into new maps but the was seriously lack of players.
There are tons of player in PvP and it was sure addicting. The change class system was fun too.
This is waaaaaaaay too funny and engaging haha youve earned a sub! Ive played EOS and C9 awhile back and this is so nostalgic. Definitely one of the best way back then.
ahhhh, ninth golden! something i played like 7 years ago for a bit, nostalgia hits in!
wow avabel was my first MMO it's been almost 10 years since last i played.
i loved when people just sit down on the ground on the main cities just to talk, it was awesome
Avabel was a lost game. It was really good back in the day.
Didn’t expect avabel to make it here, it used to be a very packed game back in the 2012 - 2017 eras but they messed it all up & lost all of the palyers
13:59 oh my god, it's tera. it's tera, it's tera, it's tera, it's tera
Tera-ble!
Ill see myself out.
Tera is dead?
@@harmagedonFR they shut the game down a year or two ago
@@Opalthira i reinstall tera on my Xbox and there was one Europe server, the game IS still playable ! So he's not dead in 2024 !
@@harmagedonFR think its only available officially on xbox/ps now. PC version got shutdown
*Loves these Steam Dumbster Diving Series.*
*It is interesting to see other Games.*
*And it makes me appreciate my main MMORPG even more.*
C9 actually was a really good game when it came out.
It's gameplay and graphics were really unique for the time, the game excelled on it's PvP elements, it was truly fun.
Waydot, your videos are pure gold at this rate. thanks
Appreciate it man :)
Depending on the serverwide talking daily reward, i bet its to prevent the mass spam of gold sellers. As a former aion player ( NCsoft/Gameforge ), i have seen it happen before many times that the chat was being abused with bots, advertising gold sales.
Bro wanted to feel like ainz ool gown for once... 😂😂😂😂
Jesus xmas 3:00 those leaf lizards were just hoping around, having a good time, thinking about candy and xmas cheer and here you come like a diesel fueled combine and indiscriminately start beating the sht outta them. 5 seconds into the game, and i already feel like a POS..
I played "EOS" a lot in 2017~2019.
Seeing the game after so many years brought me a lot of memories!
Nowadays I don't even have the courage to open the game because it's so bad compared to today's MMOS
Yeah I played the beta and after it released and it was actually so good. But the game sadly never grew that much here 😢
i play EOS on first day released by AERIA Games 2013 ?
it was a good game, but lack of event..
So, about the last game, C9.
I've been playing this game for a few years and i still sometimes come back to it. It had amazing combat system for the time, after 20lv You could pick a class and later on after 55+ level You could wear a skillbooks that greatly boosted You whole class... but P2W was also insane, You could buy gear boxes or instant upgrade stones from the cash shop and they all had ridiculous prices.
The version You played on the video is C9 Golden, it's the same game but they decided to run it again on the clean servers (while the old one called Continent of the Ninth Seal was stil running)
Ye, it's a piece of nostalgy ^^ the best non target combat system before BDO was released
Yes please do more of these series
Now i can watch here for MMO with no players
and watch Rye for FPS with no players
Speaking of Obscure MMO:
My favourite MMO of all time is Mabinogi. It's from 2004. It has currently a small but dedicated fanbase of players, so it's not dying. The game is super complex and deep, might be overwheming for new players, but if you understand how it works, it's amazing. I say it's obscure only because it currently has (according to steam) 320 people playing right now, with an all time peak of 1.191.
You should consider tho that the game is also available from Nexon Launcher and I expect most players to be playing from there. In fact, you can see quite a lot of people in game
great time to advertise the game too since theres going to be a massive overhaul in the game engine they're going to use and alot of reworks so i cant wait to go back to mabinogi!
@@dcry1003 yeah but god know when they are going to release that
I wouldn't say it's obscure, more like it has been forgotten.
If you dont live in NA you need to use the nexon launcher just to play. Almost all the features of the game end up being power creep into your stats though. So basically you end up leveling up like 400 skills to get the most stats with soft lvl cap of 200. But you can reset it and get another 200 lvls every lvl gives AP which after getting to total lvl like 40,000 you end up only using AP to gamble rng stats onto items at the end of dungeon they added several years ago. Other than that pretty much everyone is afk bc they're always running events that require you to be online for 4-6 hours daily just to complete the quest and get items from it. And players bot the hell out of every event to sell the items. All of this is just scratching the surface bc theres a ton of p2w aspects like reforges and combo cards, on top of gacha only gear.
@@Opalthira the gacha only gear is not better than the craftable ones
They brought Echo of Soul back?! Dude I actually enjoyed that game but then it got shut down and I was so sad
i tried ragnarock and its just not the same. dont bother unless you want to be disappointed. EOS is dead :(
avabel was my first “mmo” i played for 2 years a while back, maybe 2014. the stuff you show is pretty different from what i remember, but i was pretty young and liked this game.
Never heard of this youtuber before, after watching a few videos, i love how un biased you are you see both sides its cool, you got a sub sir . Plus you got a chilled knowledgeable voice.
"convenience of the twitter button" with 1995 pc game jazz amazing haha
Remember Black desert? Continent of the ninth is a grandfather of it. They even have somewhat similar classes(Musa/Blademaster)
I liked and subbed as I'm always on the look out for MMORPGs to try out and this is good exposure even though most are dead or dying.
I recently found myself looking for a new mmo and decided to try Scions of Fate again, which was an anime style mmorpg back in 2006. The game has potential but it's just obscenely obscure about everything. It is also one of those Korean grind-feast games where you'll get a quest every 5-6lvls and inbetween you just gotta grind, old fashioned grinding, standing in a field map, luring and aggroing every mob you can, maxing aggro range and piling them up for a massive AOE slash before that sweet 0.05% xp drop hits. It has a gacha shop, for the basic xp/gold boost trap. I saw maybe 5-6 players online, AFK and maxed with shiney sparkly gear. Never talked to anyone back in '06, less even nowadays lol
I think things did change, a little, I managed to get to lv23 before hitting a grind wall, I remember back in '06 I barely made it to lv10.
I would love your review on it xD specially since you hate anime stuff
Goyslop MMOs
Years ago I heard there’s a game that you win if there’s no one else logging in. That was its only gameplay.
hopfully you checked your computer for chinese spyware.
Just jumped into wow for the first time since burning crusade.
Ironforge was once so packed it became a RAM benchmark. Could barely set foot in it on my potato pc back then. It was a major hub for trading, guild recruiting, and just showing off your gear.
Now it's empty. Not one damned soul. It felt like the world ended and I had slept through it.
The bustling halls of Ironforge had become a mausoleum.
I played c9 for like 4 years back in the day, for me it's THE BEST fighting system till this day. What's cool about it's because there's skills where you use as "combo keys" like fighting games, for example: if you press S+Right click you use a certain skill, D or A+left click other, other thing is it's not a point click game, you NEED aim everything if you want to do dmg, so pvp was really skilled based. Anyways, C9 was really cool back in the day, the only problem was not being an open world game, but I had fun playing it :)
Honestly I was hoping for a C9 2 or something like that to play it again, even the story is really cool
21:40 the fighter looks like he is from those SFM Team Fortress 2 videos. Like he is suspicious of a sandwich or something.
Avabel my love
until a few years ago (like 6 or so, cant remember) the game dificulty was a lot harder, u really ahd to play with a party, friends or guild to be able to reach the mid to hight floors of the tower, was really fun, nowadays the game gives you an extreme ammount of xp for noreason and everything is automated, wich in the past didnt happend
This is the kind of content I've been wanting to see for years. too bad that you can't do this kind of content on online mobile games that are gone now.
"Just teleporting and lagging around while doing quests that only require you to kill one or two enemies. Getting random rewards that make no sense, and exploring essentially none of the beautiful world they have created. This game was beginning to feel like a fever dream, I think I was starting to get a headache while playing. The sound design and overall feel of the game with these random monotonous kill quests was starting to affect me. Existentially. This game is like a psychedelic trip gone wrong. An anxiety-filled space in which you just instantly appear wherever you're needed next." - every gamer trying to find a decent MMO in 2024
so many games you could have tried. we need a part 2
Boy me and friends played alot EoS back in 2015.
The PvP (15v15 iirc) was quite addicting. They also give exp which leads to the vast map empty since nobody playing the PvE content.
From those games i've heard about Continent of the Ninth Golden but never played it and i've Played Echo of Soul for a few months when it was hot. I have fond memories of the game for that time i spent on it. My memory is very vague tho so i cannot recall much of it anymore. I remember running around the map and exploring with a friend. I reached end game and all that good stuff. It was an alright game for its time.
edit: i read some comments and people recall echo of souls shutting down for abit so i guess that explains why i stopped it cause i personally enjoyed the game so couldnt recall why i stopped. Guess it got shutdown and i moved on never looking back at next releases it had.
Apparently Howlbreath is trying to remake an old 2D mmorpg called helbreath, the HUD design is literally the same. Helbreath was my first online game, it's was a pretty fun game during 2000's era with massive RvR.
really nice video man, old games can be really nice sometimes. your voiceover is awesome XD
Huge damage and exp values in that first game remind me of a game called 'Trillion'. At first it seemed like a novel concept - the BBEG has a trillion health that you have to take down - before you stop and think that it's just a matter of a factor. A boss with a trillion HP may as well have 100 HP if the only thing that changes is how much damage you deal yourself.
I immediately lol'd when I saw Florensia on the first few seconds 😆
Echo of soul Classic, in it's prime was one of the best MMORPG even for Free players, it also had the best PvP system. But the Devs kept fracking up, not once or twice. they fracked up 11 times in a row which destroyed the game.
God.. Avabel. The nostalgia it brings. Used to be popular when it was mobile only but died after a few years. I dont remember being able to one shot or auto quest tho-
his reaction after realizing he's too strong 😂
There’s something about walking on second life specially abandoned cities that gives me some unsettling tranquility
GODDAMN Rakion the memories is filling up again.
Echo of Soul was really good back in the day! Loved it
I have a game I played nobody seems to know about from back in the day: It was called "Shadowbane"
EoS was really giving me BDO flashbacks the whole time
Sunset World is basically a Maple Story clone 👀
Let's see a part 2! Also, as a recommendation maybe try Adventure Quest World?
AQW and AQ3D are actually great- sadly havent played 3D since 2020 bc my laptop died (and I didnt have space on my old phone and forgot it existed after getting my new one last august)
@@DiamondSparklz61 Agreed. I played it quite a bit. Since he liked the side scroller game so much I bet he would love it too :P
@@I_Am_Bricks I really want to play them again when I get another pc but at the same time, I want to leave the nostalgia back in the past with all the good memories
Avabel Online is my first MMO game and it’s bring back so many memories from childhood. Damn miss those guild friends.
This reminds me of the early 2000s where due to how hard it is to get an internet, i play leaked versions of Ragnarok Online that sets its server locally.
Also the Continent one at the end looks like a combination between Dragon Nest and Dynasty Warriors
It should be noted that he played the play to earn version of C9. The normal version isn't as active as it used to be, but it's still played more than the play to earn one.
Continent of the Ninth was THE Action MMO back in the day. Basically the first MMO to have good action combat
I feel ya, lot of steam games now a days say yeah game is open world but they don’t even have a player pool, they need to have the game free to play and introduce content as buyable items or skins
Ive never heard of this dude but Im enjoying the content
Ima rant..
Avabel (mobile) used to be good, but the devs changed so much that the only people who play these days are from Asia. Key change being they upped damage and overall stats of the player and streamlined progress to quickly get new players to start consuming end game content; hence why you’re given tons of EXP and Job EXP for killing normal monsters compared to the old Quest and Achievements rewards.
There used to be so many weapons you could’ve worked to slowly conquer each floor and often times it wasnt enough which prompt players to actually work together to complete kill quest. But now youre kinda limited to an ultra weapon that’ll carry you way past the old floors and into the new ones that the devs oh so work hard on.
They also removed the ability to multi class advance classes.
It used to be after maxing out an Advance Class you get all the skills of said class and you’d move on to leveling up another Advance Class. Now you can’t even do that and instead you’re force down a combination of 2 Adv. Class combos that combine into an Ascension class.
Note that even back then you could still combine mastered Adv. Classes when using an Ascension class, but after an update they locked you out from doing so. I get its for a balance issue, but combo potential for certain fighting styles kinda got ruined in the process. Instead of players pulling off wacky combos pulling skills from 6-8 Mastered Adv. Class + their Ascension Class you’re forced down a generic path that most MMOrpgs take when giving you skills to play with.
Mastered Advance Classes also removed the weapon limits on their skill sets. Meaning a skill that wouldve required dual wielding guns can now be activated with daggers. But with the update thats down the drain too. It really bummed me out to the point I didnt even wanna play anymore so I stopped. A shame too since Ive been playing the game ever since it came out.
DO MORE OF THIS SERIES.
Another one,
This is i want to see in a RPG.
Griding.
No Pay-to-win.
No Gacha.
Freely customization for your character.
Large Open-World.
Can choose to many class.
dude avabel bring back some memories when i was younger i loved that game
Try "Endless Online" :) Loved this oldie for a few years
Nice video, i miss Avabel so much. I remember to see the game slowly dying 8 years ago