New 2022 Energica Experia Green Tourer - First Ride Review
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2022
- Modena-based Italian brand Energica has just launched its new Experia Green Tourer. It's another step toward electric motorcycles becoming mainstream. The battery is more powerful and lighter, and both range and charging times are improved. So aside from all of the obvious comparisons between Electric and internal combustion motorcycles what is the Energica Experia Green Tourer like to ride? I was invited to the UK launch to find out.
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Better range on this one, but the price is still the biggest problem. Also how much will it be worth if you sell it in say 5 years time, with a tired battery & the fact that the latest one will have improved leaps & bounds, probably stuff all. I bought a 4 year old Tiger 800 in 2015 for £5350, have put 15,000 miles on it & it's now worth £3500-£4000 (source sold listings on fleabay). I could spend a few hours working out how much it has cost to own, but I know its not going to be anywhere near the £20,000+ cost of the electric over the same time period.
Great review, well done! Nice to see a review that starts off open minded about electric bikes and then your positive thoughts about where they sit in comparison with traditional bikes. I hope you will be able to get the bike for a longer test.
agreed. there are quite a lot of petrol centered channels that start off the review with a negative opinion, and it's saturated through the 'review'.
Thanks guys, I try to remain open minded about all the bikes I ride. I see lots of people slating various machines in the comments section of UA-cam and I suspect many of them havent even sat on the bike in question, let along ridden it!
@@mancavemoto truth!
Wow, that bike looks great! Thank you for the informative review.
I rode a Zero something or other about 2 years ago and really liked it - I don't remember it making that whining racket tho, it sounded much more spaceship rather than fast spin on my cheap washing machine - I don't think I could put up with that shriek tbh.
The camera microphone can't capture the actual frequencies/sound correctly. Really need to hear it in person. Sounds more like a powerful turbine. They have tweaked that sound over the years and it has gotten quite polished. It fades away over 60 mph too.
I had a go of an S and SR/S and both made a screamy noise, maybe not exactly like this but it was there.
Life long Harley rider here, recently took a Pan American and a Livewire out for a test ride after a couple of more traditional Harleys. Blown away! Livewire incredible acceleration, Pan American incredible handling ! If I could have an electric adventure bike, my life is gonna change ! Experia here I come! Only fly in ointment is should I test ride a GS first?
Beautiful bit of riding pleasure to watch mate
Cheers
With your helmet lid closed, is it really as loud as it sounds in the video?
It’s not no, I noticed when it came to editing that the mic seems to have picked it up more in the recording
A very enjoyable review. Actually, makes me want to try one. Thanks. Cheers.
You should!
Interesting review, the Experia actually looks good, it definitely has a Multistrada look about it (I own a Multistrada) , I rode an Energica Ribella in Italy some years ago and was impressed with its acceleration and smoothness however I couldn't get my head around there being no gearbox or clutch which made it feel like a large twist and go scooter , the other issue was no noise which I found particularly disconcerting as the bike wasn't giving me any feedback on what it was doing, I remain open to electric but without the engagement (no clutch and gearbox ) and no ICE noise its going to take a major reboot of the brain to convert from ICE to electric.
The issue I’m finding with trying to buy an electric vehicle is that after they are 3 years old you have lost 20% of that range and maybe more if they have been fast charged.
Fast charge is for emergency if you're smart.Means take longer to get somewhere but battery will stay premium for longer.260miles range is decent but touring at 110kmh all day range will probably be 220miles which is more than adequate for a day's ride.
Not very accurate, I'm afraid. There are owners with oggles of miles and many years and they are not experiencing such losses at all. Same applies to modern EV cars.
Fast charging isn't necessarily what damages batteries, it's leaving a battery at 100% or 0% too long (weeks). A healthy battery is one that is ridden as soon as it hits 100% (within a day or two) and is charged when/if it hits 0%. The happy range is keeping the battery b/w 30-70% when not being ridden. Even if used, you can test the draw to see what the health status of the battery is if you're buying a used one. 2 of the 3 electric motorcycles I own were used, and they're holding up just fine!
@@AdventuresonZero Very well said! I think Energica officially recommends 20-80% for storage; with a preference to use their Long Term Storage mode (where it stays plugged in while stored) when storing it for a longer period at 80%.
@@OrlandoRick that's the one thing I wish Livewire had: programed charging percent stops and amperage adjusting
The best e bike I’ve seen so far.👍🏼
AWESOME VIDEO AMAZING FANTASTIC ! ! ! ! ! ! !!
It seems really good. Electric bikes have come on leaps and bounds in the last 10 years.
Looks quite nice! Probably the future of urban commuting, at a price. But the reverse makes up for it.
Nice review, Tony, certainly an interesting Machine. What's the whine like while you're riding it? It sounds very pronounced on the video, but some mics seem to pick these things up in a disproportionate manner to how they sound in real life. I think if it did sound like that IRL it would drive me nuts. That's the only thing that immediately puts me off, other than that, the future is coming whether we like it or not.
As you pointed out, the camera microphone can't capture the sound correctly. You really enjoy it while riding, and it has been tweaked with every model.
I have to agree about the whine. I was looking forward to the review but after only 7 minutes in I have decided I couldn't put up with that noise for a 30 minute commute let alone a 300 miles per day tour. However the review is up to your usual high standards, fair and Informative.
@@dragoclarke9497 BTW, it complete fades out above 60, you would not hear it in a fun commute. Just when you slow down for a curve or to pass a slow vehicle.
Quite an appealing bike ....except for the +£27k price. For me its the price stopping them becoming mainstream not the charging.
Yes, its something that permiates all electric vehicles I think. I have considered a e-mtb to get me back into cycling, but I can buy a CRF250 to go green laning on for less than a 'mid range' electric bicycle!!
Last I looked Harley sells a lot of bikes. BMW and Ducati do OK too.
@@anxiousappliance not at £27k they don't
Why doesn't the front wheel have a ac inverter motor to charge the batteries while riding?
Great initial review of the machine. Very good looking device indeed. The "whine" seems quite noticeable (even compared to other electric bikes you have tested?) and something you would need to get used to i would imagine. Price to pay for not having valve adjustments, oil changes, and 40,000 moving bits going in all different directions I suppose. Hope you do get to do a long term review on it with some real touring. Thank you Sir!
Looks very much like my Tiger 1050 that has a range of 150miles. Wonder how it will perform with a pillion, panniers and top box. Looking at replacing 1050 with new Tiger 1200 which with box, panniers and extras will probably cost north of £20k. Perhaps I need a test ride.
Nice
Chaper than I thought too - still comparable to a well specced GS or Multistrada but maybe leccy bikes are starting to make sense?
For touring that constant high pitch whine would get on my nerves - not for me.
Great review as always 👏
It takes some getting used to. I didn't notice it when riding as much as I did in the video. Interestingly the Zero's I've ridden have been quieter.
@@mancavemoto straight cut gear on the Energica - like how cars used to sound when backing up. They say it's more efficient - not sure on that.
Sounds awful. Kudos for all the charging options but the noise, no way I could listen to that.
Funny everyone is so riled up about the sound.. I actually quite love the whine of the electric eninge. Could be it brings back the memory of the electric trolley-busses we used to have (actually still have) that were spacious and I absolutely loved riding those (absolutely hate smelly and cramped diesel busses). I can't wait to be actually able to own an electric bike!
Agree, Its different, its not better or worse, just different in my opinion
That noise takes me back to the milk floats of my childhood 😀
Haha yep I remember those. Electric delivery vehicles and recyclable glass milk bottles. We were ahead of our time in the 70’s
Good review as usual Tony. Have previously been put off by the limited range, so this bike is really interesting. Can't help but notice all the scorched earth on the verges of your route; a powerful reminder of the need for electric bikes! Looking forward to a full review.
Cheers Mark, its certainly a step in the right direction. Yes its been pretty bad here and we are in desperate need for some rain to be honest
lol, electric won’t save us. It uses mostly carbon sources.
quite sexy looking bike, think its still not time for electric bikes yet, technology and battery/power bank must change, like the machine only one thing what kills my ears is the change the sound in high revs to high mostly annoying pitch, how was it for you with helmet, thanks Tony, cheers V!
This is one step nearer. Actually I noticed the noise more in the video than i did when i was riding it!
Wow. Probably the first E bike to interest me.
Price puts most decent Electric bikes out of my reach unless I want less than 125 performance and a 50 mile range. At the moment those of us with lower incomes can buy something like a CB500X which does a great job at solo touring. In 10 years time the only option for a new touring bike will be far too expensive for a large percentage of the population on lower incomes. Touring on EV will be the preserve of the well off. The rest of us will be riding used ICE bikes until spares cease to be or petrol becomes hard to get or unaffordable.
Been on petrol for way to long. The problem I have with electric bikes are. Price, battery life span and cost to replace at some point and charging times and charging stations
I realized that the controls on the handlebar are exactly the same with Mv Agusta 🤔
They should add some more battery out in front of the shins like boxer heads, that would keep them cool and low.
Looks excellent as an option away from petrol. The motor is very annoying in the video, is it as noticeable riding?
It’s not no, it seems to have been picked up more on the mic than it did when I was riding it.
I like the sound, it's like a Porsche 919 Le Mans racer. Just wear earplugs if the sound gets annoying.
@@fallinginthed33p Always wear earplugs on a bike to avoid going deaf
Very interesting bike, looks good as well. Just needs a versatile 400-500 mile day range 🤔
Just watched this and Bruce's vid on this bike I'm sure Bruce has it at about £27,000 inclusive of import duty and tax?
Would love someone to do a full European tour on one of these and do a real word report back of how the charging infrastructure affected enjoyment. Would you be able to do a group tour riding with ICE bikes??
Yes I meant to put it as ‘from’ £21,500. I’d like to have a go at touring on one, maybe Bruce and I will have to put our heads together 🤔
@@mancavemoto Think he said he was going to try to ride one around the UK in four days (being a bit of a sceptic I said I didn't think he would do it)
Certainly be good if you could do something together.
Not without delaying them to wait for you to charge up.
@@Banditmanuk John Chivers took an Eva Ribelle from Lands end to John'O'Groats, then on into the Shetlands. It's doable
@@andrewmorgan6775 Good to hear. Getting there but it needs to be as easy and convenient as using petrol to really get the touring bikers onto electric. I tour on an MT10 which is range compromised and without knowing where you can fill up / charge range anxiety can definitely take the pleasure out of longer distance remote area touring.
I'm hoping for synthetic fuel that replaces petrol or maybe removable batteries for quick swapping. Until then my Suzuki Van Van 125 rocks the daily commute and impresses the ladies!
Keep hoping for synthetic fuel, won't work
That constant whining noise would do my head in unless it is completely masked when wearing a set of ear plugs?
It’s seemed to have been picked up more on the mic, I can’t say it was as loud when I was riding it
May be it is !!! 🙂
Have you seen the Maeving. Uk company . Looks good for a town bike.
Considering my bike has 120miles of range, this looks pretty good. However- it's very hard for electric bikes to compete on price.
Yeah price is my issue more than range. If this cost the same as a Tiger 900 or Africa Twin it'd be a genuine alternative if you like the riding position but won't actually be doing any world tours. I could do most of my "regular" riding with 120-150 miles like this or a Zero SR/S and I could just take the car for anything longer...
Lot of ICE bikes that cost the. same or more - pricey, but not that unusual.
Cool, great first look mate. For me, the whine should stop at 40 mph (bloody hypocrite, my Bobber sounds like a mix between a motorboat, a helicopter, a Harley and a Merlin - yep I know!). Drop the price by 10 grand and I may take a punt. But I'll still be waiting to see what the other manufacturers do with a bigger budget. Just my tuppence, thanks again for your entertaining content. ;-)
The microphone can't capture the sound correctly. It fades out over 60 mph. You really enjoy it while riding, need to test ride one to see what it is like. Very turbine/tron sounding.
Agreed, it’s a weird frequency and it gets picked up more on the mic than inexperienced on the ride. Mind you there is obviously a whine
The challenge is that touring involves sustained highway speeds the very thing that ev vehicles are most challenged by especially motorcycles with nowhere to package a big heavy battery. For now still an answer to a question no one asked.
depends on how you tour.
@@anxiousappliance it’s a touring bike.
Tiene el mismo diseño de la Ducati Multistrada 2023. ,Cuánto tendrá de auronomia
Hi Tony, another great review. Thank you. That whine is a bit annoying however as I updated my golf cart from petrol to electric you do get used to it. I’ve also gone from a bi-turbo V8 Merc to a Tesla and although I miss the noise, I don’t miss anything else. All my motorbikes are still combustion engines however, it’s only a matter of time until I’ll at least have one electric bike, this one is now on top of my list. All thanks to your first impressions. I look forward to a long term review. 👍😎🇦🇺
Cheers Marcus
James of the James & Kate EV UA-cam channel has done Lands End to John O Groats on an electric bike. The video is on UA-cam....
That high pitched whine would get on my nerves very quickly.
I've a EV car which is great But wouldn't have a EV bike I've just purchased a new Honda NT 1100 with the quick shifter love my gears and the sound of a petrol engine
Yeah, you'll learn to love the 40°C plus in future in the UK, too... Maybe not so much the droughts.
How can anything compete with an nt1100?
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Can’t believe they let them out for a press day making that awful noise! Absolutely horrible..oh dear!
70+mph, 2-up, with luggage. I give the battery 80 miles max.
You’re probably on the button with that
Reminds of going to dentist - but could be an easy fix... Still too heavy, I think.
Might be some sort of fashion to have some kind of sign language all time when (actually many in YT) people ride and talk but I think it is not necessary. Anyhow, maybe just me who doesn't understand - it is not intended as a criticism, just a notion.
Why are we seeing you and not the bike?
Because I didn’t have a 360 camera fitted and there was nobody filming from the roadside. There’s shots of the bike in the video
@@mancavemoto
You could've used some more of them.
360s are not good anyway.
@@nikos-giorgos 360’s are great. It’s a bike review about how the bike rides. Plenty of pictures to look at on the Energica website
@@mancavemoto
Yeah, thanks for the tip...
A electric Multi, ‘it’s the future but maybe not in my lifetime, too expensive. Not quite the induction roar of my Multi V2S though…
How much is a multi? In the US the V4 is more than this bike.
@@anxiousappliance In the UK over £20,000 for a V4S without panniers, my V2S with panniers was £15500…
Sounds like a Dentist's Drill
3 times the cost of the new bike i bought, at 68yrs I wont be ever getting one. ps good video. pss half the price of elec car. way to expensive.
You pay 27 k for this bike why are they so expensive? You can buy a decent electric car for that ..
I agree, and you should see the price of some electric bicycles! But as with most new tech, it will come down in price over time
The sound of that electric bike would drive me up the wall. I don’t like it. Maybe fine for short trip in town.
Impractical. Hydrogen is the way forward, not coal-fired electricity.
Its odd hearing the ever increasing high pitched whine of the electric motor and not feel an ingrained urge to change gears! 😁
That does take a little time to get used to, and I find it harder to judge speed when riding too
It's not the motor, it is the straight cut drive gear. But seems like you might get the urge to shift at some point. LOL
new tech: the price will come down YOY ...
I've been a EV car owner for 7yrs.
EV bike do not interest me in the slightest. In fact I've just bought a new moto Guzzi V85TT. I've also got a s
Svartpilen 701.. Both bike have after market exhaust on them. And for me that's why I will NEVER own an EV bike. For me and ICE bike is about the engine sounds, exhaust notes, the vibrations from the motor the gear changing. The blipping the throttle on down shifts. My Husky is a wheelie enducing torque monster. My Guzzi is viby, it shakes from. Side too side when I rev it... I ride bikes for enjoyment. My EV cars are a Tool for getting me from A too B. They are soulless.
2nd I did a ride last Sunday if 340 miles around the back roads of Donegal in Ireland. Not a single rapid charger to be found on the coast roads I was on. My guzzi has a tank range of 260 miles. I passed many petrol stations which I did avail of. Driving is stressful enough without the worry of running out of juice in the arse end of donegal.
Ps that whine would get on my nerves. Its a really bad pitch
I have to say that sound is horrible
It’s different that’s for sure
Looks a great bike. Shame about the price!
A petrol bike with equivalent performance would cost you as much if not more .
@@PhilipKerry which petrol bike with 105hp costs £29k? My 9k bike has better performance!
@@richardbrooks4549 Which petrol with 105hp has 266 miles range ?
@@PhilipKerry haha. Quoting urban range. Something no adventure bike is used for. I’ll ask again, which petrol bike is more expensive? Or did you just make that up?
@@PhilipKerry 1250 GSA. Nearly Half the price of the Energica. I keep answering your questions. Any chance you could give an example of your weird claim?
Sounds horrible. Would definitely need ear plugs....and ugly though the seat looked ok
Its £30,000........You can buy a Honda Goldwing and have change.
Why would you do that though?
Millions of bikers for decades are used to have a greenlight on the dash to indicate 'neutral'. Now here it means 'good to go'. ... Seems like a stupid choice. Sorry. ... Why not just invert it?
"Is this bike a game changer"?
At over £20k NO.
Don’t think I could live with the awful whiny sound !
No good for long distance touring but good to control us all
Maybe watch the video before making a comment?
@@mancavemoto nope hate all electric vehicles it’s all a fraud
Then just comment you hate all electric vehicles then, rather than making a statement on something you’ve not watched?
@@mancavemoto it isn’t good for touring you have to wait 40 mins to charge fact so my first comment was right. Don’t get your knickers in a twisted.
@Riding with Matt: "Control us all" ? Give yer head a wobble - you have a choice you don't have to buy it, stick with your petrol bike if it pleases you...