Energica Experia Review! - Electric Motorcycle Touring is HERE!
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2023
- I have had this Energica Experia on loan from English Electric Motor Co. for a week or so, to make videos and a review on. There is A LOT to cover on this bike and if I did it all in full detail in one video it would be way too long. This is the final review, if you want a much more in-depth test and info watch my series of videos on this machine. Electric touring is still not ideal but this bike makes it possible in a much better way than I have ever seen before!
Big thanks to English Electric Motor Co. for the loan of this machine! www.englishelectricmotorco.com/
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It’s crazy how far these electric motorbikes have come. I genuinely love the idea of this bike.
And so fast! That's what people can't see, what is to come soon! It's gonna be nuts!
@@spicy110 one of the perks of motorbikes is torque and these electric ones have that in abundance. What’s not to like? Guess it’s the whole “old thing good, new thing bad” 🤦♂️
As I've said in a previous comment, torque is almost always higher at the wheel (Energica do also say in the spec sheet that the higher number is at the wheel). You have a gear reduction from the motor to the wheel, for example Zero's are around 1:5 and the Experia is 1:7.8 because there's an additional gearbox as part of the motor. Gas bikes are also the same except they have multiple ratios in their gearboxes, and you'll actually find that some of the more powerful bikes have even more torque at the rear wheel in first gear than many electric bikes. It's why you can't just look at a Zero with over 100Nm of motor torque and assume it's more torquey than say a Z900 with just under 100Nm. Kawasaki actually list all their gear ratios and if I'm doing the math correct it's 1:5 in 6th gear, so that's about where the torque at the wheel is going to match up.
The difference with electric bikes is the torque curve, you don't have to wait for it to build like a gas bike and you pretty much have it all available from a stop and then it starts to taper off as you get high into the rev range. So in certain situations, if the gas bike's engine is low in the rev range and in a higher than ideal gear then the electric bike is going to have more immediate acceleration. And that's why I love EVs, it feels more direct and the bike does what you tell it instantly instead of feeling like you're making a suggestion and waiting for the bike to catch up.
Dead right. A 600 sports bike is a great, relatively extreme example. Fantastic rear wheel torque from a pathetic crankshaft torque.... At the right rpm.
One could take things further and say that the final comparison needs to take the wheel diameter into account, or more specifically the rolling radius. The force that shoves you forward is linear. Torque is a multiplication of a tangential force multiplied by the radius, so to resolve it into the final tangential force pushing you forward you'd need to know the rolling radius of the rear wheel.
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That price bracket is, I assume, GS territory but the package is perhaps GS comparative. I would never spend that on a car let alone a bike but I can see people less afflicted with “tightwadishness” than myself forming an orderly queue. Nice to see the worthy English Electric brand being associated with a quality product once again. ❤
Its new tech .. simple as that .. overpaying 10 to 100k for a house is normal . But oh no .. not a state of the art bike
Look at the long term cost of electric vehicles. True tightwads drive their vehicles forever and you save on fuel and maintenance every month
Electric bikes are here to stay! I love my Zero, awesome bike!
I took an Experia for a test ride a few months back and was seriously impressed. So much so that watching your review has just validated everything I discovered about it. At 6”6 I also enjoyed the comfort level, room and shear ease of how this bike performed.
Only thing is now I want one and at $47,000 AU I’ve got some serious saving to do.
The want for this bike is strong. The price is what it is, people justify more expensive Ducati's without needing to explain themselves.
YUP!
Many many zero owners sold their bikes and are waiting for this experia ...!!! .. big batt fast charge good service good quality .. the zero dsrx is lacking sales because of this !!! And rightfully so
I have been binge watching many of your videos. I haven't been on a motorcycle since the 80's. Back then i was riding a GP100 then moved onto a GSX 250. As i am now in my mid 50's, i felt i needed some information and refresh of motorcycles before i took the plunge and bought one. Your videos are absolutely on point, so in-depth and informative. Love how you take the time to explain and advise new and experienced riders alike. You have gained another subscriber as you are now my go to creator. Keep up the great work!
Thank you! 🙂
I really am sad that I can no longer ride bikes (my electrics are restricted to my wheelchair now),but that looks an amazing bike.
Fantastic video
Great bike, nice review
a bike like this intended to do the many many many miles it travels, it could make sense to get an electric over a petrol financially not counting less maintenance to pay for (if you don't service things yourself)
I would love this bike's battery on my bmw ce 04. Cant wait to see what the next gen of electric bikes are capable of.
Well Spicy, you've done ya job. If I can afford a finance deal i'll have one tomorrow please :P
Great set of videos on this bike but I feel it needs loading up with kit and taking it on a tour. Real world test would be awesome. Knowing where all the local charges are or taking it home to charge doesn't really show what it'll be like to use on a full tour.
Simple .. everyday 2to 250km a day and overnight charge
At last!. A positive review.
This or the DSRX 😁
I am waiting to review the DSRX, so I can not say yet.
Most of the Experia reviews I've seen are positive
I purchased a 2017 Zero DSR with a level 2 charge tank. LOVED riding it, but found out the realities of using public charge stations here in the San Francisco Bay Area of California. Shared power, out-of-service chargers, etc. I am a one-at-a-time bike owner, so I've never had multiple bikes, not even during my motocross, desert, and road racing days. I anxiously awaited both the DSR/X and Energica Experia, with the thought that I would buy one of those. DC to DC charging systems here (other than Tesla Superchargers) are also spotty in terms of what I describe above for level 2. This Energica can only charge at 3kW on level 2, my Zero charged at 6.3 kW. When I compared the features of both the Experia and the DSR/X compared to the Ducati Multistrada V4S Sport there was no question. Just the Skyhook electronic suspension was enough to convince me, not to mention so many of the other useful features. And the MSV4S is comparable in price. My Duck just had her first birthday and I could not be more pleased with my choice. I'd return to EVs but only if the features I now enjoy were available on two-wheel EVs.
Yer the US has a size issue your massive, that is not a problem in the UK, being so small we have more EV charging points than we know what to do with. But you also have the issue of broken chargers so it's not perfect yet but it time it will be much better, but as I say we are small its easy. Will take a lot more time over your way. 🙂👍
Most relatable comment. Thanks for sharing. EVs will have all the features someday I imagine
I will not sell a kidney for this but God I love it
Energica seem to have it sorted out
Really interested in one of these when they were first announced then there was over a year of waiting for one to become available to try and I stopped asking for a test. Never had any contact when it became available and stopped advertising my R1250RT which it was going to replace.
When's the wheelie/stoppie test?
unless it gets hot, or even if it does get hot, stashing a snack, say a pasty, in that "frunk" could be a game changer.
How much does it cost to charge overnight Vs. charging at a station somewhere else?
The bike is awesome. Get a fast charger at your house and you'll be good to go. People talk bad about EV charging networks, but anywhere is the world that can power a clothes dryer can be rigged for a fairly fast EV charger; try getting a gas station at your house. Electricity is available at more places than there are gas stations.
I am all for electric motorcycles .They have a place and the peformance of this is on par with my BMW 800 even the range is simular (full tank vs full battery .The elephant in the room for me is that second hand I paid £1700 for the Beemer and I dont think that one of these are available used ,even in the future ,will ever be available for that kind of price. Hence out of the reach of most working people.
So were CD players and mobile phones where they were new.
I have ridden a BMW 800 -this is nothing like that ...
It sounds like a brilliant bike / experience, I love it & have nothing bad to say about it but how can an electric motorcycle cost more than a lot of electric cars??
Electric bikes could be fantastic but they have GOT to address the cost!!
I don't know if you'll find many new electric cars for cheaper (actual cars, not stuff like the Citroen Ami), and the ones that are like the Fiat 500 and VW Up aren't actually far off the Experia in terms of power and battery capacity. There are some like the Nissan Leaf that have a fair bit more power and capacity, but still low for an electric car. With the bike not only are you paying for the performance (you get more for the same power and capacity) but you're also comparing a bike hand made in Italy by a relatively small manufacturer to mass produced cars.
@@HomoKieran It's a fair point but a bike has nowhere near the material costs / requirements as a car. I'm not being argumentative & I get your point but I'm sure you see what I mean?! 🤷🏻♂️
@@simongoode7812 No I get that, but it's not as simple as just taking into account the material costs. No product is like that. Just take a look at Chinese bikes, even the decently put together ones are cheaper than their European competitors because labour and materials are cheaper over there.
Cant do anything witb the app for the bike settings. Experias dont have a bluetooth module.
Damn, I am thinking of zero aren't I.
This bike is an good signpost as to where Electric motorcycles are heading....but it's also an indication, we are still not at the point of mass adoption by the general motorcycle community. The cost is just too prohibitive for most people.
Butser hill. I have spoken!
The price wouldn't be such a bad thing if you can charge it from solar, maybe via a Jackery power bank.
You can charge it from solar.
Out of curiosity (and with the usual caveats of local taxes etc) I looked at a price comparison of the Experia and GBP conversions are:
Blighty: £27,790
US: £20,340
India: £17,669
Are we being ripped off or has someone decided this is what our market can stand?
Hmmm I do not know why there is that disparity.
Energica needs to bring a 100 mile range dirt bike :)
I like the sound of that! Basically their version of the Zero FX.
I would imagine the price of this bike is way beyond what anyone watching this would spend on one. By the time I will concider getting one they will be way cheaper and the technology will be even better, trouble is Im 60 so.......
I mean they are selling and those people will watch to see reviews and mine are the best they will get on electrics in the UK. (I do not often say something like that but I have been told enough to know it is the case) and In fact I think 2 people are looking to buy one after my review series. Wealth is different to all people and to some (not me either by the way) £30k isn't a big deal.
Deposit paid last November ! It’s now nearly October 23
*talks about how much nature loves him on the bike*
*proceeds to take a large bug to the face*
Nature still hates you.
I really miss my Zero DSR apart from the mediocre range and the lousy charging times (even with a charge tank!) To ride, electric bikes are a blast, but to live with them is a ball-ache…at least for now.
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