"An electric touring bike? How’s that gonna work?" Sportsbikeshop rides the Energica Experia
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- “There’s an endless, seamless stream of torque ready to fling you off into the distance.” Sound interesting? That’s the power of electric specialist Energica’s first foray into touring bikes. We rode the Experia and this is a motorcycle you need to know about…
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This seems like the Model S of the motorcycle world. It’s the first one with the range and sex appeal to be taken seriously, and ten years from now the bikes will be way better but this will still hold its ground.
This guy takes a logical approach to reviewing a bike, which is so much better than reviewers who think emotional experience is how a bike should be considered.
I have no idea how you are arriving at those range estimates (and you don't give any data), but it doesn't add up. My wife and I current 2021 Ribelles can safely get 120-140 miles on non-highway riding (50-60 mph average); and or about 95 miles highway (70 mph). So here comes a 2nd Gen EMCE more efficient motor (two generations past our motor) with a larger battery, in a bike that actually got wind tunnel tested (you skipped that part)... it should do more, not less. So two weeks ago (out of our own pocket) we flew to Modena to try the Experia before ordering it. Our discovery was after an 85-mile spirited mountain ride chasing a way too exuberant factory rider (why were we doing 70 in a 30? how do Italians live past 30?) we came back and found that both of Experias used only 37% of the battery! That means that on tight Italian curves at speed we were facing a range of 230 miles! Yes, I have the photos and GPS data to prove this. Extrapolating for the faster 50-60 mph back road riding we typically do here in the states -- we estimate this bike will give a 160-180 mile range.
Hi Rick, thanks for the detailed info on your experience with your Ribelles. The estimates in the video are based on the mileage and battery charge figures I witnessed during my brief-but-busy ride on the Experia. Great to hear that it's possible to go further with a different riding style & average speed, however. I'd love to spend some more time with the Experia next year and understand more about its real-world range under a variety of conditions. Thanks again for the feedback - Martin
Thankyou so much .. i will buy it for highway commuting .. and ... for backroad touring ! .. energica claims real range .. so now i expect 350km backroad and 230km highway .. and i can fling it when i want or need .. i m so exited !!!
“Professional” reviewers always present unimpressive figures not sure if it’s a boast about how quick they ride or just they are used to abusing other peoples bikes. I’ve had 2 BMW RTs - reviewers claim a tested 50mpg… 2 up and loaded for a 2000-3000 mile tour I usually get 63mpg and rarely under 60mpg.
@@stevesharkey3312 obviously doesn't apply to electric bikes but I know they don't shift up when they test gas powered bikes. They just roll through the mountains in 3rd gear
Life long Harley rider here, recently took a Pan American and a Livewire out for a test ride after a couple of more traditional Harleys. Blown away! Livewire incredible acceleration, Pan American incredible handling ! If I could have an electric adventure bike, my life is gonna change ! Experia here I come!
NGL, massively relieved that you lined up the wheels so the red paint bit matched up. Phew!
perfect commuter, 100 km in the morning, recharge at work, 100 km in the evening, recharge at home, standing tall next to my XR, for the longer rides.
And at 25000 km a year, with free solar electricity and no engine maintenance, it is cheaper per km then my beloved XR..
Maybe the greatest review I've seen so far. Thanks!
Such a statement piece of equipment
Honest and non-biased, thanks Mufga
Thank you for watching!
Stunning bike .
Don`t kill me 😂 I have ordered one!
As i love my Energica EVA Ribelle i have to exchange it for this tourer. And i come from an BMW K1600 which was boring to me, the Ribelle opened my Eyes. Electric is so much fun.
An excellent and balanced review; like you if I had the money I would love one, but £28k is twice what I would be able to muster.
Did you tried other Energica like the Ribelle or the EGO ? About the price, it certainly is a big amount of money, but it does not loose more that petrol bike when you sale it on second hand (on my experience, I hand a ZERO SRF, 2 Ribelle, and my Experia is on it's way). Electric bike are much more cheaper on maintenance. I'm on electric for the 4th year now (after more than 30 on ICE) I'm riding 20 000 kms / year and my motorbike budget is clearly smaller ;-) (my last ICE, an FJR, cost me 250€ of gas per month, and it was 4 year ago, gas price rise up since).
Here in Australia we are having problems with price gouging cowboy mechanics. Based on that it's why I've decided to go electric
If only the big four from Japan would get involved. Then surely the price would have to come down.
One Brit gets 170 miles in Sport mode, and this one only gets 110. "Oh bother."
No, you didn't have one tomorrow in your garage. To deliver one, takes time. A lot of time.
I'm very interested to test-ride one. But till today I didn't get an answer of any Energica Dealer.
The other big post is, all Dealers in my case, are more than 2h away. That's a big minus in my point of view.
5:23 "Lub-foots of torque" 🤣🤣🤣
It's important to take this stuff seriously 😉 - Martin
I have two Electric Cars, a BMW XR and BMW RT, also have a petrol SUV. I love this bike, and would have an electric bike in a heartbeat! Except, I could buy a BMW K1600 for the same price as this. No chance this will sell in volume I'd guess. Shame as it seems like it would handle my 90 mile each way commute! I can charge at work for the journey home. Nice bike, silly price that's £10k too much. Would love a ride on one though.
I bet the Experia could do your 90-mile r/t (omg that's a long commute buddy!) without recharging. That's 180 miles. I'd be up for that challenge.
Many people easily overpay for a house ... i will do so for my bike :-)
Range.....
Not once was it mentioned "Range" when loaded up with all your camping gear! What's the range then......?
Hi. I got to spend just a few hours with the Experia, so the range figures quoted are the best estimates I could give, given the mileage and battery charge figures I experienced during the ride. If I'm guessing - and I am guessing - then I don't think that adding camping gear would make a big difference to the range. The bike and rider are around 350kg combined, so adding a few kilos for tents and sleeping bags probably wouldn't drastically change things. But fully loaded with three-piece hard luggage and a pillion? Yeah, that probably would reduce the range, as it would with a petrol bike, but to know by how what percentage we'd need to spend more time with the bike. Thanks for the question - Martin
Missing shaft drive.
If money wasn’t an issue, would you go for this or. BMW GS?
Even at todays high price for petrol i can take my cbf1000 a very long way for £27k . I wonder how much a home charge will cost for this bike when the new prices come in.
Good question. Under the 34p-per-kWh price cap, one full charge would cost roughly £7. If you can achieve Energica's claimed 138-mile range, that works out to 5p per mile. Given the average price for unleaded today, that's equivalent to about 150mpg - Martin
Hello, i really appreciate this Experia too but what about the new zéro motocycles DSX/R . I am still hesitating. What do you think and thank you again for your video. Cheers Maxime from Réunion island
Hi Maxime. I've spent a bit of time with Zero's SR/F and SR/S but haven't ridden the new DSR/X yet. On paper the Energica Experia has a larger-capacity battery and faster DC charging - two huge things in its favour. Also, in the UK at least, adding three-piece luggage and the additional 6kW Rapid Charger to the DSR/X tips its price higher than the Experia. Either way, it'd be really interesting to compare the two bikes back to back. Thanks for the question - Martin
Shame they didn't go for belt drive over a chain drive.
I actually see that as a huge plus. Zeros are no stranger to broken belts, and you have to remove the swingarm to install a new one. With Zeros, experienced riders will actually install a 2nd belt tied to the swingarm for when the belt in use inevitably breaks.
Surely it would charge quicker at home using a 7 kWh or 11 kWh wall box + good news just brought out in china flat battery packs in four cars for sale. Now which charge to 80% in 10 minutes ( already proven) that’ll be a game changer 😊👍👍 if I could afford one I’d have it
I'm a big guy and I did 135 miles on an Esse Esse 9+with 5% to spare. Experia certainly will go further, the controller and motor are improved. What are you basing those off-road range claims on?
Hi Tony. If you're looking at home AC charging, I believe the Experia's limit will be its own onboard 3kW charger - no matter how powerful the wall box is. Given the battery's 22.5kWh claimed max capacity, I imagine that'd drop the time for a full charge down to 7-8 hours. Rapid DC charging can be faster because it bypasses the bike's own 3kW charger. Hope that's right - and hope it helps! Martin
The actual usable capacity of an Experia is 19.6 kWh (think of that as electrical gallons). With a 16amp or better 220v J1772 home charger (like $200 on Amazon) you can charge the bike at its maximum AC rate of 3.3 kW. That means (19.6 / 3.3) that you'd be able to charge a full depleted Experia in 6 hours. But you rarely arrive home with 0%, so in reality it would be less.
@@OrlandoRick and home charving qill alway be overnight .. fast charging on the way !!
Why a chain? Belt would’ve been better? 🤷♂️
Belts are quieter ann more efficient, but they break easily if a stone gets in there and are £50-£100 to replace, specialist part for the Zeros, and often out of stock, chains can handle more torque and are easily found everywhere at bike shops.
The Zero DSR-X is better riding and better offroad 😮
Offroad on 570lbs bikes ...better you than me.
Too expensive, too heavy and too limited. The only use of electric vehicles is for forklift trucks, milk floats and golf carts. I cannot take it for a day out long distance tour. You cannot charge it long enough in small villages, it will catch fire eventually. The electrical network is already at the brink of collapse with all the EV's, heat pumps, electric furnaces and solar panels.
"An electric touring bike? How's that gonna work" Answer = It isn't.
Just tour 200miles than eat and charge .. than 200 miles to campsite and charge overnight ...i could do this for months and ha e the most beautifull views ..
@@gmy33 good luck getting 200 miles
@@twinwheels4717 i know a guy who tried it and he got this range on byways ... you go faster you have less range 2x150 miles is also doable .. its just too much fun riding elecrric .. have been riding a zero fx for 7 years .. will never buy ice again
@@twinwheels4717 is 320 km .. this will be done easily on by roads i drove it today ! .. will get mine in a couple of months
Except for all the folks who've been touring all over the place on existing EV motorcyles.
Er, no.