The Moza R3 Racing Bundle is HERE! Unboxing & First Impressions
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- MOZA today launches the Xbox compatible DD R3 entry-level bundle! we got an exclusive hands-on opportunity to show you our first impressions of the production unit of R3 Wheelbase, ES Steering Wheel and SR-P Lite Pedals.
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00:00 Intro
00:43 Unboxing
06:45 Setup & Driving Impressions
13:35 First Verdict & Outro
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Happy for people to finally have a console variant from moza. Also for anybody who wants to know it's actually 3.9nm so alot like the t300rs but dd. The fact the prices are so similar should make this a no Brainer.
T300 is 4.4nm. this R3 is a pointless base
@@brtcobra R3 might feel more dynamic due to direct drive. But for around 400€ you can also order Fanatec's cheapest 5Nm bundle. The R3 might be interesting as a base for the truck wheel. But that's quite big so there won't be much force feedback.
@brtcobra Its not pointless when its got much better response and will allow you to correct mistakes quicker also much smoother and less noise. Def not pointless. It aint my cup of tea im sitting here with a 23nm ultimste from simagic. But i can see the appeal lol
i use a fanatec cls dd wrc bundle+v1.5 sq shifter+v1.5 hb. i use it mostly in console mode for xbox x. i purchased from fanatec in early august 2023 for like 1200$ us. with a broken sequential shifter spring for 3 weeks now and dealing or rather not dealing with customer service for a replacement spring..has left a really bad taste in my mouth. which brought me to this video. with the sale right now, my moza cart is up to 788$ plus shipping for basically the same setup as what i have now(r3 bundle+sgp shifter+hbp handbrake) considering the switch and selling the fanatec ecosystem online-my concern is with moza customer service..how does it fare vs fanatec customer service? would it be worth the switch? thank you for your videos, very informative!
I've had the R5 for a year and love it. Moza is putting out great products.
Since Xbox compatibility is always in the steering wheel chip, Moza should just release the standalone wheel for sale so people can bundle it with 5 or 9nm bases, because on console the max usable Nm is around 7-8, anything above that is useless. That's why fanatec has 8nm. If Moza follows them and releases the 9nm base with xbox steering wheel they will be selling a lot more. 3.9Nm is OK, they're targeting logitech and thrustmaster buyers, but I'll wait for the more powerful version.
"on console the max usable Nm is around 7-8, anything above that is useless" - Can you explain this? Where does this "limitation" come from?
The R5 may be better value but the point of the R3 is that it's Xbox compatible and the others aren't
arent all moza products compatible with PlayStation by wheel base but with Xbox via the wheel itself?
@@shielder1907 Negative. PC only. But you are correct in the statement that the coding is in the base for PS and wheel for Xbox.
But this also means you can take the wheel from the R3 and slap it on another base and it'll work.
I got the R3 but I'll upgrade to a R9 around the holidays when it goes on sale.
@@omniscient420 for xbox compatibility, you also need a base that has a direct pedal input. So it only comes down to the R5 and R12.
@@gundamOPSR9 V2 is wired and not wireless.
Hi, please test on Xbox Bussimulator 21, Fernbus Simulator Coach and is the MOZA TSW Truck Wheel compatible with R3 and Xbox?
All websites over here in Australia are saying 27th June for shipping now.
Does the wheel work on assetto corsa competizione xbox???? I know its not compatible. But i may work anyway?
I would like to see forza Motorsport and horizon 4/5 and to see if the gated manual transmission adapter and clutch pedal addons work
Thanks for the overview of the new Moza R3. I'd totally purchase this new wheel if only it supported Assetto Corsa Competizione and F12023 on Xbox -- which, per Moza, it doesn't.
I received my bundle two days ago. Updated the firmware. Using it on Xbox on F1 22. No selection for Moza wheel in the wheel selection guide. Not sure if Xbox will update later. Using the Fanatec wheel selection. Should I use it or set up some other way?
Does anyone know if project cars 1 will work on xbox? It says it works with 2 and 3 but no mention of 1.
I just got acc on my series X and my R3 bundle arrives in 2 days this video was made for me
Have fun! -Michel
Tell me if acc works since it’s the main game I play
I heard it won’t work on ACC atm
I contacted Moza support on release day and they confirmed that both ACC and F1 2023 are not compatible with the Moza R3 bundle. I don't understand how 2 of the top sim racing games for Xbox are not compatible with this DD wheel for Xbox. At this point, Fanatec still seems to be the only option to play these games on console with DD.
Where did you order yours from?
I have ts-xw on my xsx Driving Forzas, ACC, EA WRC. but I would like to change it to Moza R3. Power is not the matter but the feeling of ffb. its DD!
Hello. Please test on a Xbox F1 title :D. Do the rev lights not work correctly on xbox? They just seem to flash....
would this wheel work for F1 24?
I need that wheel rim LOL
I’d like to see the R3 tested on Forza Motorsport (2023). I am also curious if Moza got the LED rev counter to work on the Xbox platform. During the reveal last August they only cycled on and off which I think would get annoying quickly.
Noted!
Waiting for the R1 at 200€
After almost 1 year from presentation still no ACC compatibility on console 😢 ... I still have to wait before buying it
Dude, just get yourself a fanatec, it’s $100 more and later you can go up to 8nm which is fantastic
@YourDailyR you act like £100 is 2 pence not everyone can just splash an extra hundred for a sim wheel.
Please compare it the entry level logitec wheels to see if upgrade to the r3 is worth it or if I should jump to the r5
Go R5 but anything that isn't R3 is not compatible with xbox
Theres only around a £60 difference between the 2 so the R5 is a better bundle for the price. As mentioned already though, only the R3 works with Xbox officially
R5 all the way.
Go R5 if you can use it on PC.
You could try buying the r5, and waiting until the r3 wheel is available for purchase separately. Then you would have a 5nm setup that's compatible with xbox too. You could also probably sell the r5 wheel for a pretty good amount of money back
For me I’m going to route the radio button to the ignition since it will make me feel cool. Do you know if the wheel works with ACC?
We will test that for next weeks video
Based on the early reviews from fall, it doesn’t work on ACC. We shall see if they fixed hopefully
If the actual steering wheel is the one with the compatible Xbox chip, couldn’t you just get an r5 or r9 and make it Xbox compatible with the wheel? Wouldn’t be cheap as you buy the whole bundle not just the steering wheel but it might be a good shout for a better dd base.
That must be why I'm still waiting for my R12 after nearly 3 weeks.
Should have got it from Sim Motion in the US. They have them in stock
Wonder if the R3 bundle is a worthy upgrade from the Logi G923.
Y U NO Xbox R5, Moza?!?
Assetto Corsa Competizione please! Don’t think it’s in the supported list though, saying that the Logitech G923 still isn’t officially supported and it’s definitely caused some issues in the past.
On the official website of moza it lists the wheel compatible with AC and ACC
@@michagrill9432 - It is only compatible for PC, not Xbox. ACC is not supported for Xbox
@@michagrill9432 It is only compatible for PC, not XBOX.
@@CJ-jc8tn wait i didnt even know AC exists for console 😅
I’m looking to upgrade to dd wheels, should I get Fanatec CSL DD (5nm) or Moza R5 Bundle?
I have used Fanatec with CSW base for 3 years. Base was fine, but P1 and Mclaren wheels are not durable. The long thin pins that are weak design point. Moza i dont have, but i think there interface design is lessen prone to breaking
I would like to see it on Forza Horizon 4 and 5 and Forza Motorsport 7 and 8 on Xbox as the MOZA wheels are a pain to get them working with these games on pc.
I haven't had any issues getting it working on pc
No ACC on Xbox, I emailed them about six months ago and they said there working on it, if its not in now it probably wont be, so its a big fat No from me. Shame, I'll just have to stick to my G920.... And the rev counter light going up and down would drive me insane in all of 5 minutes...
Forza Motorsport on Xbox review pleeeasse
I had a rig for flight-sim, and I wanted to try out sim-racing and bought a Logitech G923 from my local computer store. I liked it and wanted to try out the famous Direct Drive experience and bought a Moza R5 bundle, and I'm having a blast in ACC. It is a world of difference from the G923. Almost feels like cheating with so much feedback. In hindsight I think it would have made sense to go directly to the R5 as the money is more or less the same. (incredible) But on the other hand G923 works everywhere out-of-the-box, so as a beginner wheel it serves its purpose. As for the R3, I would recommend a buyer to postpone the purchase a month, or two and save up the extra bucks for the R5. Just my 2 cents 🙂
R3 bundle is compatible with Xbox, that's its core feature. if you only play racing games on PC, then R5 would be better, but if you need Xbox compatibility, you might have to wait unknown amount of time when the wheel from R3 bundle becomes available as a stand-alone product
Can you put any moza steering wheel on that base?
Not playing on Xbox, the compatibility is in the wheel not the base. There are some wheel mods on their website though
Now they actually they release it after I finally ordered my t248 for $200. What took them so long?
I have got T248, send it back straight.
@deathtrooper2048 I heard they had problems getting authentication chips from Microsoft (you need these for Xbox compatibility)
Can I use all other wheels from Moza like the KS Wheel with the R3 if I play on PC?
Yes
Yes! -Michel
It's maybe, now
@@OverTake_gg That could be a really gamechanger
Ifnyoure using it on PC, the other wheels will work, but not for console as the security chip is in the wheel
Correct me if I'm wrong but I can get a 5 Nm fanatec csl dd bundle + table clamp for the same price. So why would a PC player buy this over the csl dd bundle specs wise. Idk about ecosystems
There's a number of things to consider, but the main feature of this bundle is Xbox compatibility. It directly affects its price (console authentication chips cost money) which is why R3 bundle might not be the best offer if you only play on PC.
But there are other factors too:
1) Prices are different in some places/countries.
2) Moza's QR is much better than Fanatec's QR1 (and for lower torque bases, a rigid QR is probably preferable because you won't be able to crank up FFB to compensate for QR's dampening effect).
3) Moza's ecosystem is not as locked as Fanatec's one, for example you can use other wheels or DIY wheels on Moza bases if you have the same or physically compatible QR.
4) Moza's ES wheel seems to be better than the cheapest Fanatec wheels and you can buy a Formula-style rim for it for 40 Euro; other rims (but not from Moza) also exist for this wheel.
5) Fanatec's delivery times and customer support seem to be quite a gamble these days.
Fanatec also has its strong sides, though, for example, much bigger choice of wheels and they are usually more affordable (even if lower quality); option to upgrade the base to 8Nm; option to upgrade the pedals to loadcell (although it will cost almost the same as a set of Moza SR-P pedals); better compatibility with some games.
@@vsm1456 thank you for this summary, much appreciated 👍
Itd be cooler since its 399 to come with a desk mount. Having to slend an extra $60+ or whatever is a bit much tbh. Especially considering this targets the entry level market.
desk clamp is included, you don't need to worry about that
I want that realy bad bc I play on Xbox
How long does it take to ship?
"Usually ship within 7 business days, with estimated delivery in 7-12 business days after the order is shipped." - Moza website
F1 24 please 🙏 😊
Like with Almost every Wheel on Xbox rev Limiter ist Not working
The thrustmaster t248's rev limiter works.
NIce
it says compatbile with assetto corsa but does it also work with assetto corsa competizione??
some say it won't work in ACC on Xbox, but wait for the main review, the guys will probably test it
@@vsm1456 I emailed Moza support this week and they confirmed that it is not compatible with either ACC or F1 2023 on Xbox. What a shame! Can’t see any point if these sim games are not even supported?
It does not work with ACC. I contacted Moza and they told me that ACC and F1 2023 are not compatible on console
@@CJ-ks3ii ah well that’s a bummer
Good deal for XBox users who don't want to spend alot
Tray forza Motorsport and assetto corsa competizione on XBOX
Gutted, I only just got a T300 GT RS, But I was able to get the Thrustmaster in monthly payments, And the T300 is not a bad wheel, But after seeing the R3 come out I am a bit wounded, But now I know, When I can afford it I will get a R3 bundle, I needs a clutch and gear stick, A car without a clutch is not a real car to me, lol....
I guess my next upgrade wheel near Xmas might be a Moza R3 lol....
Again I will say the T300 is allowing me to be a bit faster than I was when using the Logitech G920, I was not getting faster, But since I have been using the T300 I am now able to get a bit faster, Plus I am able to afford the Add on wheels with the T300, And I like how the T300 relicates like Bumps ect, And the Firmware is actually pretty good with Thrustmaster...
Still though Moza is Quality as well....
a different wheel wont make you a quicker driver..
If your T300 came with good pedals, upgrading to R3 is a waste of money. Stick to T300 and aim for a bigger step in the future.
Did you try LC pedals? I got mine for my T300 and I wouldn't want to go back for car simulations.
If the R3 doesn't come with LC I'd save for one of the higher tier bundles as an upgrade.
@@user-ng8cx3fj5p Yeah the pedals is OK, The brake is a bit less travel than the Logitech, But I can afford the Load cell pedal set in a few weeks, There is no way I could afford the cost on any other pedals, I only Sim race as a Hobby and to help with CPTSD, Sim Racing can help with Anxiety, But yeah I am happy with the T300 GT RS, Plus the Firmware is up to date, And yeah the T300 really do feel like a real steering wheel, So So close to the real deal lol...
I am having issues sleeping so I will jump on AMS 2 for an hour or two, I plan on doing a full day or at least half the day of AMS 2 practice tomoz, But yeah I am actually happy with the T300, I will say the only thing getting on my nerves is the slight fan noise after use, Is that meant to happen, lol...
Yeah I wish I got the T300 before the Logitech, I might be faster than I am now, lol....
@@user-ng8cx3fj5p Yeah that is what I am going to do, Plus I Sim Race in VR so fancy wheel isn't really a need, lol, I want to upgrade my GPU next anyways, You reckon the 40 series will drop in price when the 50 series drops?, Would be nice to get a 4070ti 16gb GPU, I got a 12gb 3060 at the moment, But now I got the T300 I will be grabbing a better GPU in the future, But I am happy with the 12gb 3060, Pretty good GPU for VR, Must be the 12gb of Vram helping it along, All be in high to medium, The 3060 is all good...
Why no PS5??
Would rather just get r5 or fanatec dd, they need to lower the price for 50 euros dollars
Good product, but came late. Fanatec R2R xbox bundles are 100$ more and can give you way more for the value
now, we need a ps5 version but let's be honest, sony is going to make them $200 more expensive than the xbox version.
No that was fanatec bullshit business moto! If you look at Logitech it’s the same price for PlayStation or Xbox model same with thrustmaster! Also other cheap wheelbase out that work on PlayStation and Xbox.
the only console racing game i care about is gt7 too bad r3 cant do ps5
Forza Motorsport please
the R5 bundle only costs 100 Dollary Doos more atm. I think that's far better value.
if you only play on PC, yeah. bit not if you need Xbox compatibility
Try Forza Motorsport
Think the r5 is better value
The whole point is the R3 is Xbox compatible, the R5 isn't
@@richardspencer4901 The wheel is the only thing that needs to be compatible. You could use a r5 base with the ESX wheel, but they won't bundle them together because they want the xbox market to fall into the r3 trap, and then upgrade their wheel base (more expensive part of the bundle)
Will this work on ps4 🙂👍
@@aah4632 yeah, the wheel has the Xbox compatible chip inside it so could be transferred onto the R5 base
@@garryburns6659No, as it's required to have a PS-compatible chip in the wheelbase, while Xbox needs one in the wheel only, and R3 doesn't have a chip in the base, only the wheel.
Not compatible with ACC😢 Thats a deal breaker.
can you try beamng drive
no clutch is a break point of getting it.. So its BIG No from my end.
yes, the R3 comes with 2 pedals, a clutch can be upgraded but isn´t part of the initial bundle. - Rene
No load cell option is a DO NOT BUY!!!!! a gear driven wheel with a load cell brake is a MUCH better option
Fanatec $399 and does 8nm . Quit shilling for moza .
CSL DD 8 Nm is $449.95 - fanatec.com/us-en/racing-wheels-direct-drive-bases/racing-wheels/csl-dd-8-nm - and comes without wheel and pedals, what kind of a comparison is that? It's direct competitor is a Moza R9 Wheel Base. -Michel
8Nm Fanatec setup will cost you $550 because you also need to buy the 8Nm "boost kit"
@@vsm1456Boost kit can be had for $30 😂 . The fact that over take gg linked a $449 wheelbase shows you how deceptively he is conning his audience recommending 3nm garbage
You can't buy it I have been trying for over 8 months since I seen the first UA-cam video on it. Moza are taking the pxxx
To me it looks like Moza held back the R3 for whatever reason but now/soon it's available and several channels are now posting their videos..
Info about the R3 popped up way earlier thats true but that might be due to Moza waiting for console approval? That often takes a while. As far as we got informed, the R3 is ready to ship in the EU and US right away from their warehouses, so there shouldn´t be any issue in terms of availability. - Rene
@@OverTake_gg looked at buying it the other day, and the shipping costs to the UK is £144. I will wait to see if if anyone here imports it first.