Recreating the "Black Album" drum sound with Superior Drummer 3

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  • Опубліковано 5 лип 2018
  • Watch and learn as our own Michael Sanfllipp sets out to recreate the iconic drum sound on Metallica’s “Black Album” using the core library and built-in mixer and effects in Superior Drummer 3.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 149

  • @random20186
    @random20186 5 років тому +141

    Now try doing the same with St Anger :D

    • @CarltonMelson
      @CarltonMelson 5 років тому +5

      Just need to fix the snare. lol.

    • @getulioprates
      @getulioprates 5 років тому +9

      You must sample an empty ink can to the snares.

    • @getulioprates
      @getulioprates 5 років тому

      :)

    • @garyarnold602
      @garyarnold602 4 роки тому +6

      You need a dead wet fish for a stick and a metal trash can

    • @TheSweep12
      @TheSweep12 4 роки тому +1

      @@CarltonMelson pitch up and that 's it😅

  • @pjbirch5732
    @pjbirch5732 4 роки тому +28

    This has been added as a preset in SD3 under the Metal/Heavy Rock Category labeled as Man of Sand. Looks to be the exact preset built here in the video. That being said, understanding the why behind each effect and mic properties, bleed settings as touched upon in this video is much much more valuable as it "teaches a man to fish". Simply pulling up the preset saved within SD3 is simply a fish. Thanks to Toontrack for a great overview of how to build this kit.

    • @exci6198
      @exci6198 4 роки тому +1

      @@BlazonStone It's there, in the Metal/Heavy Rock section as Peter said. Make sure you're up to date.

  • @MikeLuke
    @MikeLuke 5 років тому +72

    Two thoughts, guys.
    1. This is going to be one of your most viewed video.
    2. Now do a shootout between this sound and the „1991“ preset from the Rock Foundry SDX.
    😎

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  5 років тому +23

      Yes! The same guy made both of these presets so we may do that in the future.

  • @ANGLofficial
    @ANGLofficial 5 років тому +13

    one of the best drums sound ever... and that edit sounds huge :D now I want it!

  • @JUNKO____
    @JUNKO____ 5 років тому +13

    More of these!

  • @raskolnikov1873
    @raskolnikov1873 5 років тому +8

    This is pure magic! Please make this available for download.I'd love to use this preset for my drum sounds, but more than that, I'd like to have a look under the hood and study how it was put together. Good job guys!!

  • @MystFanfare
    @MystFanfare 5 років тому +3

    Please do more video like this!!!

  • @simonwinter1076
    @simonwinter1076 5 років тому +2

    Great! More of these presets for download maybe would be awesome!

  • @ChrisBakerDrummer
    @ChrisBakerDrummer 5 років тому +1

    That bell brass is W-I-C-K-E-D. So glad it's in the core library

  • @absinha6209
    @absinha6209 5 років тому

    That’s pretty amazing!

  • @catpeterson4577
    @catpeterson4577 3 роки тому

    Mahalo from Honolulu. Awesome! Keep the great tutorials coming!

  • @Salantsoundstudios
    @Salantsoundstudios 3 роки тому +1

    you guys are really great thank you!

  • @ACompetitiveHalo
    @ACompetitiveHalo 5 років тому +15

    Ok, but now for the ultimate test... Make a St. Anger preset!

  • @keldrud
    @keldrud 5 років тому +7

    I would love to see a video where you nail the drum sound from the selftitled Mötley Crue album. That is really where Bob Rock made his most impressive drum sound.

    • @reecelujan5911
      @reecelujan5911 4 роки тому

      Dr feelgood had a great drum sound as well

    • @db87x97
      @db87x97 4 роки тому

      im sure that he meant dr feelgood

  • @leichtmatrose
    @leichtmatrose 3 роки тому

    thank you cmd data, fascinating 😃 🖖

  • @valdapuing251
    @valdapuing251 5 років тому +2

    Wow! SUPREME!!! Sounds Unbelievably AWESOME!!! I am in love with those toms!!! I am a Ezdrummer2 user......if this preset was available in Superior Drummer 3, I would WITHOUT HESITATION "cross-over" to Superior Drummer 3!!!

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  5 років тому +3

      Valda Puing we are planning to add it in the next update. Stay tuned.

  •  5 років тому

    Yeah! Pretty close!

  • @ParadNorthProd
    @ParadNorthProd 5 років тому +6

    Probably helps that Bob Rock is on the payroll when trying to figure this out. :)

  • @skirwan78
    @skirwan78 2 роки тому

    This is a great video. You guys have done a ton of work making SD3 - I think you would benefit from more "Here's how to make this sound" videos going into depth like the mixer and envelope settings and why you pick different drums/toms/snares/etc - A view of top down and bottom up sound selection.

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback! We'll forward it to our home office!

    • @basileus8038
      @basileus8038 Рік тому

      Please please please do Back in Black!!!!!!!!

    • @basileus8038
      @basileus8038 Рік тому

      After watching this and levee video, I’m gonna pull the trigger and replace my SD2 with 3

  • @hamm24
    @hamm24 5 років тому +4

    The guys at Toontrack have out done themselves with SD3!

  • @svenjeschke5025
    @svenjeschke5025 5 років тому

    Will this preset be included in an SD3 update or made available to download?

  • @keithratliff1824
    @keithratliff1824 5 років тому +4

    Would be nice if you made the final configuration/mix available for download... ;)

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  5 років тому +5

      It will most likely be available in a future update. Stay tuned. We are still trying to decide how it will be shared.

    • @keithratliff1824
      @keithratliff1824 5 років тому

      OUTSTANDING... If it will be sold, I would agree to beta test before final release since I was the first to ask on here :)

    • @christopheseyler3512
      @christopheseyler3512 4 роки тому +1

      Finally available with the 3.1.14 update !!!

    • @xPowerShotx
      @xPowerShotx 4 роки тому +2

      @@keithratliff1824 This has been added as a preset in SD3 under the Metal/Heavy Rock Category labeled as Man of Sand.

  • @icarus1416
    @icarus1416 2 роки тому

    goin off the Man of Sand preset.. its a good overall sound.. to my ears though.. adding a ludwig black beauty onto the snare stack..(i use the NY v3 6.5x14 1982) gives it more of that snappy crack.. in comparison to the isolated drum tracks. its almost identical..

  • @jobe13
    @jobe13 5 років тому +5

    I know you're not taking requests, so I'll present it as a challenge. Can you get the sound of the drums of Sean Kinney of Alice In Chains? Specifically for the song "A Looking In View" from the Black Gives Way To Blue album. It's one of the biggest drum sounds I've ever heard, and one of my all-time favorites. Although I'm trying to learn how, I just don't have the skills to decode it for myself.

    • @gutekzpoligonu
      @gutekzpoligonu 5 років тому +3

      dude ... not many people know what is really good ;) Drums on ALITV are Killer couse Randy Staub did just supreme job. They could do some update for this kind of preset for ROCK WAREHOUSE but there are many samples in this Alice in chains song, so there would be a lot of stacking, but maybe a preset for owners ROCK WAREHOUSE and SD3 would be a massive killer ;)

    • @spaceburger80
      @spaceburger80 5 років тому +1

      WHAT JOBE SAID!

  • @anth495
    @anth495 5 років тому +1

    Even the same producer/band/gear might not be able to reproduce the same results as the Black album as it was a different time and feel that magically came together...sounds great though !

  • @michaelbrady2339
    @michaelbrady2339 5 років тому +2

    Is there a site where drummers share preset kits?

  • @kanakkakade7269
    @kanakkakade7269 5 років тому +3

    Can you do a video on recreating the drum sound used in the album Sacrament by Lamb of God ?

    • @ArtHazard
      @ArtHazard 5 років тому

      Lol. You kind of predicted what they were working on.

  • @nichttuntun3364
    @nichttuntun3364 4 роки тому

    Hi guys. Sounds good. What interests me list is if SD3 has direct multiple out to the DAW? Thank you for answering in advance.

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  4 роки тому

      Yes. Superior Drummer 3 has 16 Stereo outputs that can be easily routed to channels in your DAW.

    • @nichttuntun3364
      @nichttuntun3364 4 роки тому

      @@toontrack that's great. Tempting tool. It has what I'm missing from SSD 4 / 5. Too expensive unfortunately.

  • @CarstenGoeke
    @CarstenGoeke 23 дні тому

    Cool ✌🏻

  • @Toehider
    @Toehider 5 років тому +8

    To all those asking for this preset, I spent some time more or less copying what I could see from the video, and just tweaked and estimated the settings I couldn't see. I just picked up Superior Drummer 3 a few days ago and this was a cool little crash course in how to use the software 👍

    • @Randomico_guitar
      @Randomico_guitar 5 років тому +5

      Hi! Could you share the preset please? It seems it's taking too long for Toontrack guys to share the preset...

    • @xPowerShotx
      @xPowerShotx 4 роки тому

      @@Randomico_guitar This has been added as a preset in SD3 under the Metal/Heavy Rock Category labeled as Man of Sand.

    • @Randomico_guitar
      @Randomico_guitar 4 роки тому

      @@xPowerShotx I've looking for it in the Metal/Heavy Rock Category and I have no preset under that name. Is it from an update or something?

    • @xPowerShotx
      @xPowerShotx 4 роки тому

      @@Randomico_guitar I'm new to SD3, so just installed my SD3 a few days a go. Yea, its definitely in there. Maybe you should update your SD3?

    • @Randomico_guitar
      @Randomico_guitar 4 роки тому

      @@xPowerShotx Humm it could be. What version do you have??

  • @LucasVera
    @LucasVera 5 років тому

    Is there any chance to do it with EZ Drummer 2?

  • @MsZappas
    @MsZappas 5 років тому +1

    is there anywhere online where users can upload/download their kit presets. as much fun as it is to create a preset from ground up, it sure would be nice to import someone elses creation

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  5 років тому

      Hi Keith! There are plenty of presets included in Superior Drummer 3 (by Bob Rock, George Massenburg, Andy Sneap and others). Feel free to use any of those as a starting point!

    • @MsZappas
      @MsZappas 5 років тому +2

      @@toontrack thanks for replying and yes there are great presets in sd3 to use and learn from but it would be a neat feature if users could share their custom presets in the community. Cheers

  • @maziardana
    @maziardana 5 років тому

    yes its nice with a ezmix metallica sound , toontrack :)

  • @zakk2bwylde
    @zakk2bwylde 2 роки тому

    Any chance you guys could upload this as a download as a preset?

  • @stoklund
    @stoklund 5 років тому +2

    Now do Elvin Jones drums sound on “All or nothing at all” from John Coltrane’s Ballads
    Then Jeff Porcaros sound on Rosanna toto
    Zigaboo modeliste Cissy Strut
    Ringo’s sound on “Something”
    John "Jabo" Starks: Sex Machine
    I could go on and on.... 😄

  • @xPowerShotx
    @xPowerShotx 4 роки тому

    Any know where I can find the midi pattern for this?

  • @FrancisBourre
    @FrancisBourre 5 років тому +20

    Do you plan to share the preset?

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  5 років тому +24

      Yes, we are working on that. It will most likely be included in a future update but don't quote me on that.

    • @FrancisBourre
      @FrancisBourre 5 років тому +2

      That rocks, thanks.

    • @13strigoi69
      @13strigoi69 5 років тому +17

      It'd be great if you could share it on Napster. ;)

    • @dragonlips2005
      @dragonlips2005 5 років тому +1

      I'd like to get a copy of that preset!! :)

    • @getulioprates
      @getulioprates 5 років тому +1

      @@13strigoi69 HAHAHAHAHH great!

  • @PaulKretz
    @PaulKretz 5 років тому +2

    Now we need to get a bass library and recreate Jason for Justice. LOL
    P.S. Good job. I love Toontrack.

    • @svenjeschke5025
      @svenjeschke5025 5 років тому

      Yeah, an AJFA EZmix bass preset. And then a St. Anger preset for SD3. Bring it on! ;-)

  • @CarltonMelson
    @CarltonMelson 5 років тому +1

    Thank God for Bob Rock and his intervention.

    • @johnp82
      @johnp82 5 років тому +1

      Yeah too bad Bob Rock sent them down an ugly path that led to Load, Reload and St. Anger.

  • @anyeloflores2189
    @anyeloflores2189 4 роки тому

    hi, i need some help. im using superior drummer 3 with my electronic drum kit medeli, but when im playing and i try to stop the symbal with my hand this two cymbal keep sounding like im still holding with my fingers, someone can help me with this trouble, sorry i dont speak english very well.

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  4 роки тому

      Hi, for issues of a more technical or operational nature please contact our support via the “Contact Support” button at the bottom of any FAQ at toontrack.com.

  • @AllenHarrison
    @AllenHarrison 5 років тому +1

    One thing that would help is a bigger room, can you do that in superior 3?

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  5 років тому +2

      Yes, it would be possible with SD3. Superior 3 was recorded in Galaxy studios in Belgium. It is the largest live room in all of Europe (330 square meters). We used 9 different sets of mics to capture this room. So to answer your question, yes there are bigger room mic sounds available in SD3. I believe the sound designer chose these channels because of their tonal qualities.

    • @AllenHarrison
      @AllenHarrison 5 років тому

      Toontrack awesome, I looked up the studio they recorded their album in, and it’s 1000 square feet smaller than Galaxy Studios, so I bet it can sound even bigger!

    • @dadocta404
      @dadocta404 5 років тому

      @@toontrack any updates on how you all may or may not be able to make this available for all your users? Whether for free or purchase. Preset packs are sooo useful to get up an running btw.

    • @dadocta404
      @dadocta404 5 років тому

      @@toontrack Whats up Toontrack! Is this still on the roadmap for the next release?

    • @xPowerShotx
      @xPowerShotx 4 роки тому +1

      @@dadocta404 This has been added as a preset in SD3 under the Metal/Heavy Rock Category labeled as Man of Sand.

  • @gregwilliams2764
    @gregwilliams2764 4 роки тому +1

    What about Bohnam presets for me?

  • @KRayxKodessA
    @KRayxKodessA 5 років тому +1

    daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.....

  • @danielmcmahon2006
    @danielmcmahon2006 5 років тому +1

    Is this preset available to use?

    • @xPowerShotx
      @xPowerShotx 4 роки тому

      This has been added as a preset in SD3 under the Metal/Heavy Rock Category labeled as Man of Sand.

  • @rodrigochaves8169
    @rodrigochaves8169 5 років тому +4

    we are waiting for this preset to download.

    • @xPowerShotx
      @xPowerShotx 4 роки тому +1

      This has been added as a preset in SD3 under the Metal/Heavy Rock Category labeled as Man of Sand.

  • @billymatters8129
    @billymatters8129 9 місяців тому

    Any one have a link.... to down load this "Black Album" preset ???

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  9 місяців тому

      Hey, the preset referred to in the video is the Man of Sand preset under Metal/Heavy Rock in the Superior Drummer 3 Core library.

  • @kylefitzgerald2497
    @kylefitzgerald2497 5 років тому +3

    how much for the download?

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  5 років тому +5

      Hi Kyle, This preset will be added to Superior Drummer 3 in a future Sound Library Update.

    • @gutekzpoligonu
      @gutekzpoligonu 5 років тому +2

      @@toontrack My ears are broken, or this is way much heavier than "LA 1991" from Bob Rock pack? BTW - GREAT WORK WITH THIS PRESET and I hope U will soon put it as update for SD3 \m/

    • @SDFitz
      @SDFitz 5 років тому +7

      @@toontrack Still waiting...6 months later.

    • @xPowerShotx
      @xPowerShotx 4 роки тому

      @@SDFitz This has been added as a preset in SD3 under the Metal/Heavy Rock Category labeled as Man of Sand.

  • @1-800-WILLIAM
    @1-800-WILLIAM 2 роки тому

    Do you have this as a preset?

  • @gonebymidnight2881
    @gonebymidnight2881 3 роки тому

    now try to do an EZbass preset for the And Justice For All

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  3 роки тому +3

      That's easy. Just add a high pass filter at 500 hz 🤣

    • @gonebymidnight2881
      @gonebymidnight2881 3 роки тому

      @@toontrack that’s a good starting point but make sure it peaks below 24dB after the highpass 😂

    • @michaelfranz685
      @michaelfranz685 2 роки тому

      Funny!

  • @sjftech
    @sjftech 5 років тому

    But you didn't you pan the hi-hat down the center like the black album...

  • @looseemonnn1973
    @looseemonnn1973 4 роки тому +1

    6:19

  • @rodolfopelaiz7587
    @rodolfopelaiz7587 3 роки тому

    can you share the preset ?

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, This preset has been included in the Superior Drummer 3 preset dropdown menu after the release of this video. It's categorized under Metal/Heavy Rock and is called Man of Sand

    • @rodolfopelaiz7587
      @rodolfopelaiz7587 3 роки тому

      @@toontrack thanks.

  • @DarioSantaAnnaOfficial
    @DarioSantaAnnaOfficial 3 роки тому

    is the LA 1991 preset basically

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  3 роки тому

      This IS the preset that was made available after this video.

  • @djdanger9812
    @djdanger9812 3 роки тому

    You won't need that ride cymbal hehhehe

  • @FrancoArea51
    @FrancoArea51 4 роки тому +1

    Share the preset...

    • @xPowerShotx
      @xPowerShotx 4 роки тому

      This has been added as a preset in SD3 under the Metal/Heavy Rock Category labeled as Man of Sand.

  • @YeshuaDavidson
    @YeshuaDavidson 4 роки тому

    you: we got black album.
    st. anger : bitch please 😂😂

  • @witnessthewrath8061
    @witnessthewrath8061 4 роки тому

    What’s the difference between ez drummer vs superior drummer

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  4 роки тому

      Hi,
      Thank you for your message! And sorry for the late reply.
      EZdrummer 2 is made to be easy to use straight out of the box with great sounding presets etc. There are plenty of great songwriting features, including Tap2Find and Edit Play Style, however you have limited options when it comes to mapping the sounds to Midi controllers/e-drums, routing options for the mixer, and there are no included effects plugins to insert in the EZD2 Mixer
      Superior Drummer 3, while still easy to get started, is a complete production tool that can do everything EZD2 can plus more with the extra features included in SD3.
      It allows you to customize every aspect of your drums. There are many more features included in SD3 that are not included in EZD2. You have different options to shape the sound of each individual sample, as well as stack multiple samples together. You can also import your own audio samples to work with in SD3 to create your own unique kits. SD3 also supports custom Midi mapping, so you can adjust which sounds are triggered on your Midi controller or e-drum set.
      SD3 also includes Tracker, which will analyze your recorded audio files of your drums and turn that into Midi, which you can use to further edit with the sounds of SD3.

    • @xPowerShotx
      @xPowerShotx 4 роки тому

      Great info here. ua-cam.com/video/3klyUNBtKQk/v-deo.html

  • @unclefish
    @unclefish 5 років тому

    I thought he was Agent Cooper, when i saw the thumbnail of this video.

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  5 років тому

      I do really like a "damn fine cup of coffee" ;)

  • @salvatorepisano4078
    @salvatorepisano4078 5 років тому

    They should of titled this "Please Lars Don't Sue" haha

  • @blueman0714
    @blueman0714 3 роки тому

    without that articulate machine, bob rock and lars made that sound... What the hell both of them did in 90..

  • @mmccarrell
    @mmccarrell 5 років тому

    So, can I just drag over a drum track I don't like or isn't hitting properly in the song, and SD will replace it?

  • @FanaticDrummer
    @FanaticDrummer 5 років тому +2

    Not “claiming”. But it is lol. Lars uses samples of his kits like crazy now to fill in parts.

    • @KyleJPie10
      @KyleJPie10 5 років тому

      Samples? Not a chance. Multiple takes with a lot of cut and paste production? Sure.

  • @charlesrocks
    @charlesrocks 2 роки тому

    I much prefer the Bob Rock expansion pack.

  • @kaipeteruwe
    @kaipeteruwe 2 роки тому

    Where is the present ?

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  2 роки тому +1

      Hi, In the Superior Drummer 3 core library you can find it in the preset drop down menu in the Metal/Heavy Rock category. The preset is called Man of Sand

    • @kaipeteruwe
      @kaipeteruwe 2 роки тому

      @@toontrack THX

  • @ozanmrcan
    @ozanmrcan 3 роки тому

    bruh, i don't have core library i only have metal foundry

  • @Josh-it6uy
    @Josh-it6uy 5 років тому +2

    Jeez this looks complicated.

  • @chrischoir3594
    @chrischoir3594 4 роки тому

    pretty close, actuakl sounds a little less "clicky" than the original

  • @DadoSimicStudiostriver
    @DadoSimicStudiostriver 4 місяці тому

    To me it sounds very flat in dynamics and totally splashed. I would never hear it and say, yeah its real performance. It sounds amazingly recorderd, and extremely usable for mixing, but so far i never heard drum samples that sounds as good as real performance. It will need to pass few decades till that became reallity i`m afraid. Overal huge step up from SD2.

  • @sugengpriyanto818
    @sugengpriyanto818 5 років тому

    I wonder why everyone try to make their drum sounds like Black Album.

    • @RanDieBam
      @RanDieBam 5 років тому +2

      Because the snare could kill people

  • @AlexSage
    @AlexSage 5 років тому

    After updating the software the older libraries I had don't load anymore... what a junk!!! :(

    • @toontrack
      @toontrack  5 років тому

      They probably just need an update. Please contact support they will get you up and running.

  • @JulianEmdon
    @JulianEmdon 5 років тому +1

    Lars Ulrich.. I'm afraid you're out of a job.

  • @RicardoGordo
    @RicardoGordo 5 років тому

    Better than st. Anger.

  • @beatz04
    @beatz04 5 років тому

    Bummer, i thought this was about Prince's "Black album" masterpiece. Oh well :)

  • @icaanul
    @icaanul 5 років тому

    dead toms

  • @TheRealDjElite
    @TheRealDjElite 4 роки тому

    Darn... I was hoping this was re: JAY Z's album.