Not bad, but there's a difference between the early eighties and late 80s. 70s and early 80s had the concert toms with no resonant heads, but the late 80s had power toms with the bottom heads on. I'm generalizing, there are always exceptions of course
Awesome!!! I went to a lot of concerts in the 70's, 80's, & 90's. The sound of the drums was so huge. Always wondered if any FX was added to them and what kind.
I'm not really big on stadium rock but you guys did a great job here of recording drums in general and I'm glad you showed the basics of what you did rather than just jumping to the reverb treatment part. That Kate Bush sound is really nice.
That drum sound you demonstrated for Kate Bush was used all over her album The Dreaming. Check out the songs Sat In Your Lap, Leave it Open, The Dreaming, Houdini and Get Out of My House to hear what I'm talking about
Great! I would like to know 'bout that powerful drum sound of '89 and beginning of 90's. Like "Dirt" by Alice in Chains, "Dr. Feelgood" by Motley Crue, "Black Album" by Metallica, "Vivid" by Living Colour. Thanks
really good video idea, take a look at Shoegazer's "How I record loud drums at home" - He goes a bit through Addictive Drums 2, might get you somewhere
Could you guys please recreate that signature Rick Allen Of Def Leppard Snare Sound? It's a really distinctive sound. Specifically the Hysteria Album??
A reply 1 year later, but the drums on pyromania were all programmed with live cymbal playing. I think the samples were triggered from an AMS delay unit. For hysteria, definitely electronic drums as Rik Allen had already had his accident, but I don’t know how much was played and how much was programmed.
Sounds great. I found the tightened drum part informative. I have always thought the best drum sound I ever heard was on Carly Simon's song That's The Way I Always Heard It Should Be. Those toms sound incredible. If you guys could duplicate that it would be awesome and appreciated. Thanks from just another engineer in L.A.
I‘d like to hear how you‘d replicate Peter Gabriels Come Talk To Me. I think it is not typical drumset, but rather different african percussions mixed with concert toms? No idea. But would be highly interested, since this is one of the most appealing and strange percussive tracks I ever heard.
How many tracks were used to record the kit, and were the trigger effects processed pre or post tape? The gates are obviously pre-tape. Trying to recall how we recorded back in the mid 80s.
so what's the 90s hardrock metal drums sound like in comparison ? I've always thought the snare sounded massively different, especially noticeable in metal in those transition years of the late 80s and early 90s.
how to make the early 90's rock drum sound? like Damn Yankees, Ozzy Osbourne (No More Tears), Joe Satriani (The Extremist). the rock drum sounds from 1989 to 1993 was the best drum sounds ever.
I know the drums from ‘Fine Young Cannibals’ “She Drives Me Crazy” was a done on a DrumMachine, but I would like to see that snare drum recreated on live drums!, 👍🏾
Great video! Thanks for sharing. I would most definitely like to know how they got that Nirvana´s Nevermind huge drums sound. To this day is one of the best drums sounds I´ve ever heard. By the way beautiful long dark hair Jessica! I am trying to make mine reach the hips as well LOL. Cheers.
Please break down the drums (Dennis Davis) on David Bowie's 1977 album Low produced by Tony Visconti. I think he used many effects and claims that they influenced future metal drummers although the genre was art rock/proto new wave.
Great vid, but i'm a bit confused on one thing. Those "talk back" mics, are they part of the reverb that you hear at 4:44? Theyre just gated to the snare so they only come on when the snare is hit?
Not sure if I missed it but are there gates on the direct mics or that all damping? And what is sending to the reverbs? everything or just direct mics?
??? Are you all kidding? 80's Stadium (arena rock, we called it) drum sounds were usually HORRIBLE! SUre, the snare and bass drum were heard, polar opposites, a deep, deadened thud, and a high pitch gunshot with too much reverb! The rest of kits usually lacked cutting thru the rest of the PA eminating an overpowered sound throughout a large area. I saw many acts at Notre Dame ACC (the basketball arena) like the forementioned Heart, Kiss, Ratt, Poison, Van Halen, REO Speedwagon, and a few others, and I remember the drums NOT sounding like on their albums...they all sounded similar....some not even pleasant to listen to during a drum solo. Everthing was big and excessive in the 80's, from hairstyles to drum hardware to live music PAs....louder isnt always better, but it did kinda cover for crappy guitarists :D
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I just rent out a stadium. Lots of empty stadiums these days.
I just get a job at a stadium and play drums there off hours. nude.
The best drum sound ever. Nothing beats a punchy and crisp 80s snare!
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Cool! Please do 70s Fleetwood Mac/ Eagles / Steely Dan drum sounds! Tight, dry and crisp, would be a cool counterpoint to this vid :)
Steve Gadd! But you're right, dead drums can be a lot of fun too. I enjoy playing reggae with the towels over toms.
LOVE the stadium rock sound.
That isolated Kate Bush drum track sound SO TOUGH , don't know why it's mixed to low in the original.
I love that serie and i’m so happy you did a Kate Bush song :)
Not bad, but there's a difference between the early eighties and late 80s. 70s and early 80s had the concert toms with no resonant heads, but the late 80s had power toms with the bottom heads on. I'm generalizing, there are always exceptions of course
Listening to this particular sound tonight makes me feel like I'm in the air. Feel call ins.
Finally! I've been waiting for someone to do this for a long time
It would have been nice to see the actual drummers and engineers who played the parts and got the sounds named in the video.
Awesome!!! I went to a lot of concerts in the 70's, 80's, & 90's. The sound of the drums was so huge. Always wondered if any FX was added to them and what kind.
I'm not really big on stadium rock but you guys did a great job here of recording drums in general and I'm glad you showed the basics of what you did rather than just jumping to the reverb treatment part. That Kate Bush sound is really nice.
I remember that sound on 90 percent of all 80’s rock songs. I miss it pre digital. Heavy Gates Reverb
try recreating some vulfpeck drum sounds, pretty much all you need is the vulf compressor, gates and some tea towels
Great suggestion!
Large Ludwig power toms have a great sound for 80's tones.
That drum sound you demonstrated for Kate Bush was used all over her album The Dreaming. Check out the songs Sat In Your Lap, Leave it Open, The Dreaming, Houdini and Get Out of My House to hear what I'm talking about
So you need all this extra stuff just to recreate an 80's snare drum. Motivating
Great! I would like to know 'bout that powerful drum sound of '89 and beginning of 90's. Like "Dirt" by Alice in Chains, "Dr. Feelgood" by Motley Crue, "Black Album" by Metallica, "Vivid" by Living Colour. Thanks
I’d love to have this as a sample pack
Silly old me when I heard the drums I didn’t think G’nR I thought Love Stinks by the J. Geils Band, or Leave it Open by Kate Bush. I’m old.
Maybe do the same thing but on a budget? Home studio, cheap gear?
Superior Drummer 3, add in reverb and gate plugins coupled with some serious routing. :)
@@LightWingStudios Thanks. But I wish I knew what all that meant. Don't bother telling me, I won't get it.
really good video idea, take a look at Shoegazer's "How I record loud drums at home" - He goes a bit through Addictive Drums 2, might get you somewhere
Could you guys please recreate that signature Rick Allen Of Def Leppard Snare Sound? It's a really distinctive sound. Specifically the Hysteria Album??
A reply 1 year later, but the drums on pyromania were all programmed with live cymbal playing. I think the samples were triggered from an AMS delay unit. For hysteria, definitely electronic drums as Rik Allen had already had his accident, but I don’t know how much was played and how much was programmed.
Would love an episode on the sounds of Stax and Muscle Shoals!
Would love that. They have a punchy and powerful mono sound!
And that, kids, is why drums sounded awesome back then
How about Matt Cameron’s drum sounds on Soundgarden’s Superunknown album?
Go buy a Keplinger stainless steel snare.
2nd this
I would love to hear you guys recreate early Jamaican Sound system, Dancehall and live Dub.
This is so damn useful, thank you for making this production videos
Sounds great. I found the tightened drum part informative.
I have always thought the best drum sound I ever heard was on Carly Simon's song That's The Way I Always Heard It Should Be.
Those toms sound incredible.
If you guys could duplicate that it would be awesome and appreciated. Thanks from just another engineer in L.A.
Yeah, the Mutt Lange Def Leppard pyromania would be a good one. It's almost like they're not even drums they sound so modified from a real drum set.
That is because they weren't live drums!
I‘d like to hear how you‘d replicate Peter Gabriels Come Talk To Me. I think it is not typical drumset, but rather different african percussions mixed with concert toms? No idea. But would be highly interested, since this is one of the most appealing and strange percussive tracks I ever heard.
tooooo..... good guys...... can you'll make a video on Scott Rockenfield drum kit and mix on Queensryche's OPERATION MINDCRIME Album
0:38 - Sounds much similar to 'Listen To Your Heart' by Roxette!
Always did :))
That snare tone in the studio sounding nothing like the recording of Paradise City.
Can never get rid of this sound
very cool selection of songs!
How many tracks were used to record the kit, and were the trigger effects processed pre or post tape? The gates are obviously pre-tape. Trying to recall how we recorded back in the mid 80s.
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a joy division drum sound!!
Awesome! Would love to see y'all take a crack at Zappa's drum sound in Packard Goose :-)
LaTigerGenesis HOLY SHIT YEAHHH
Loving these videos. Wish you would play that individual tracks too...
How about recreating the intro drums for Dire Straits - Money for nothing?
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so what's the 90s hardrock metal drums sound like in comparison ? I've always thought the snare sounded massively different, especially noticeable in metal in those transition years of the late 80s and early 90s.
A lot less reverb. Like they said in the video, they went from adding length to the drums with reverb, to adding length to the drums themselves.
Thanks for sharing this.
could you guys include protools templates for the recording?
How about Motown drumsound? Would love to hear your take on it.
i like this sound but so good.
Maybe why not recreating 2000's nu metal drum sounds?
how to make the early 90's rock drum sound? like Damn Yankees, Ozzy Osbourne (No More Tears), Joe Satriani (The Extremist). the rock drum sounds from 1989 to 1993 was the best drum sounds ever.
Black Light Burns "Cruel Melody" I always liked the drums Patrick works up in his Filter projects, but found they are all electronic.
"IT'S IN THE TREES! IT'S COMING!"
This sounds awesome guys
I know the drums from ‘Fine Young Cannibals’ “She Drives Me Crazy” was a done on a DrumMachine, but I would like to see that snare drum recreated on live drums!, 👍🏾
Great great great!!!! Thank you for doing this.
Boris Williams (the cure) Disintegration !! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Excellent-great video. Very relaxing to watch-just what we need. How about the drum sounds off of the Who’s “Who by Numbers”?
I personally would recommend less high freq in the reverb. Still good sound
The snare on Prongs beg to differ album , it sounds gated but not. How the hell did Ted Parsons get that damn sound
1:57 I'm more curious about what was done in the 90s to enable reverb sounds naturally with the drums.
Larger, brighter rooms and more room mics in the mix
Nirvana had a kick tunnel, built out of a bunch of kick drum shells.
Kickass!
when combining the non lin reverb with the long plate, are they running in series or in parallel, You don't seem to explain that...
Great video! Thanks for sharing. I would most definitely like to know how they got that Nirvana´s Nevermind huge drums sound. To this day is one of the best drums sounds I´ve ever heard. By the way beautiful long dark hair Jessica! I am trying to make mine reach the hips as well LOL. Cheers.
Hounds of love: best album ever. Songs and production are not of this earth. Best 'larger than live' drumsound? Heart! Epic.
0:25 I played cherry pie riff with that awesome beat....;)
Please break down the drums (Dennis Davis) on David Bowie's 1977 album Low produced by Tony Visconti. I think he used many effects and claims that they influenced future metal drummers although the genre was art rock/proto new wave.
I found playing NOT RIMSHOTS on snare makes this sound, just dead center with hard hits
It sounds fuller than the "choked" rimshots
Great vid, but i'm a bit confused on one thing. Those "talk back" mics, are they part of the reverb that you hear at 4:44? Theyre just gated to the snare so they only come on when the snare is hit?
Not sure if I missed it but are there gates on the direct mics or that all damping? And what is sending to the reverbs? everything or just direct mics?
damn these drum sounds makes me want to grow a mullet
Spot on 👏🏻👏🏻
This is amazing!
I always wanted to know how JCM's Jack and Diane drum fill sound in the middle was created.
Playing really hard, tune the snare medium/low. Rimshots on snare. Big room and lots of room mic in the mix
Love this!
I'd like to hear the drum sound from Elton John's Tiny Dancer.
Uhhhhh could you try to recreate the classic drum sound from the album "Dark Matter Dreams" by Ernesto Foriello?
What snare drum is that and in what size ?
Good video!
these drums gave me the stank face instantly
feel good!!
Def Leppard
Pyromania (Jan.1983)
Robert "Mutt" Lange
Jessica!!!
Def leppard vocals
what heads
Great job. Time to do a Joy Division drums tutorial.
5:00. Snare tuned too low for my taste. Needs to be higher and tighter to crack. My two cents.
Maybe the Pantera Vulgar display of power drum sound?
What percent is the room sound. Highly not acknowledged
5:40 they use this in Pat benatar's we belong
Mac demarco/ lofi Drum sound?
And here was me thinking drums weren't complicated.
I'm glad rosa can solve her anger issue by playing drum.. maybe she should start a band with doug judy
why didn't you just take a shot of the PCM instead of throwing in a shop picture after?
you d need a bigger room for that
Very very cool =)
The kick has to punch you in the chest, tho.
How about the Def Lepard sound???????
Same thing but with one arm.
@@kingboobs20 not even close.
"Pour some sugar on me!"
Gated reverb
??? Are you all kidding? 80's Stadium (arena rock, we called it) drum sounds were usually HORRIBLE! SUre, the snare and bass drum were heard, polar opposites, a deep, deadened thud, and a high pitch gunshot with too much reverb! The rest of kits usually lacked cutting thru the rest of the PA eminating an overpowered sound throughout a large area. I saw many acts at Notre Dame ACC (the basketball arena) like the forementioned Heart, Kiss, Ratt, Poison, Van Halen, REO Speedwagon, and a few others, and I remember the drums NOT sounding like on their albums...they all sounded similar....some not even pleasant to listen to during a drum solo. Everthing was big and excessive in the 80's, from hairstyles to drum hardware to live music PAs....louder isnt always better, but it did kinda cover for crappy guitarists :D
Dear Bob Rock and/or Lars Ulrich --
This is how you’re supposed to set up and record drums.
Gates & reverb