The Making of Bob Rock's The Rock Foundry SDX
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2017
- Meet the team and get behind the scenes of The Rock Foundry SDX, a sound library expansion for Superior Drummer 3 produced by Bob Rock at The Warehouse in Vancouver, BC.
More info, audio demos and video here:
www.toontrack.com/product/the...
There are two people I can credit my love for audio to-Mick Gordon and Bob Rock. My life would not be the same without those two
THRICE for the win! Toontrack I love you
The best drum library ever made
Finally the Black Album Drums!!!
Bob's ear's and visions are Legendary! Thank you, Bob, for so much greatness!
Haha, kul att Mattias säger att det var en dröm att spela in med Bob, var exakt det jag satt och tänkte hela tiden. Fan vad sjukt. Mannen av fetaste trumljudet jobbar ihop med er! Grymt, inspirerande. Älskar att ni äntligen fört in separat reverb, finally!!
Cannot wait to try it out. Amazing job, Simply amazing!!!!
The Mono Kit is the best sounding of all. I absolutely love it!
Just bought it. It sounds amazing. Best I've heard so far!
The Glamoflauge Kit by Joe Baressi is the best sounding sampled drum library ever ;), not as 3D as SD3 but its the best sound
This guy is such a legend....
Going to purchase now.
That sound is f#$%& PERFECT!!
That look and sounds great. can't wait to get mine. Rignt now I'm or should I say I've been using an older version Reason with some soundfonts. Looking forward to upgrading to the The Rock Foundry .
I was on the fence about buying this because Superior 3 already sounds great. Finally bit the bullet and its blown me away. Incredible expansion pack, so good i won't use SD3 core library ever again
I love how a Thrice song is in this video
Sounds awesome and I can’t wait to get this library! Toontrack please collaborate with David Bendeth or Chris Lord Alge! An SDX from those guys would sound absolutely amazing!!
Sounds great
Billy Talent II was recorded at Warehouse
Thank-you.
please tell me there's a St Anger Frying Pan in there?
Allen Harrison hehehe....I was waiting for the Lars crack! So Bob has done the greatest drum sounds in history? He's also done the single worst snare.
I always thought it was a cooking pot
JAJAJA
It's a tin trashcan lid.
Its a snare drum with the snares turned off
I’d love Bob Rock to record my band. If only lol he gets the best tones.
Im soooo inspired right now 🤦🏾♂️
But it's 02:44 am..
4:03 Close to Enter Sandman
I wonder if the first three kits translate well with double bass?
DAMN I heard that snare sounding so full and bright and I said; damn I like that one....later know is the famous Tama bell brass
what about china cymbals?
i lifted all the snare and kick samples from black album master tracks, i use them in my own music and they sound great.
How?
good job kit drum Superior Drummer 3
Black Album 🥁🙏👊🤘nuff Said…👌
Is Lars Ulrich snare from "Some Kind of Monster" included? If so, take my money!
Two questions:
1. What's the deal with the Thrice song. Did they use SD3 or did Bob Rock recreate that Drumsound for SD3?
2. Will there be an EZDrummer version of this?
Cheers
Hi Robert. The Thrice song was obtained from Thrice and their management as a demo for the product. Sound designers at Toontrack used the Tracker function in Superior Drummer 3 to replace their recorded drums with the sounds from the Rock Foundry SDX. Therefore the drums that you hear in this video and on Toontrack.com are Superior Drummer 3's Rock Foundry mixed to fit the song. The Drum mix is also included as a preset.
I can not answer your second question as we never comment on the possibility of future releases.
is that control and the urge to pray at 2:01?
are these able to be used in a trial? I totally have to see if I can turn this into a video
Hi, Unfortunately we have no trial or Demo version of Superior Drummer 3 or the Rock Foundry.
Toontrack no worries I have superior drummer 3 already and love it just wants to do something with the expansion I'll probably pick it up soon.
You should make an Andy Wallace SDX, to get RATM and other drum mixes he did.
Slayer
Nirvana
RATM
Sepultura
Linkin Park
Avenged Sevenfold
Ghost
Its like there's examples of all decades where they could get the sounds of
@@alfonsomartinez2751 Andy didn't record the drums for Nirvana, but he mixed them. So perhaps Butch Vig would be better for Superior side of things. Andy Wallace Mixer presets on the other hand (with his samples) Would be incredible.
Great vid! Bob Rock is a great legend but Joe Barressi records/mixes the best sample libraries ever- The Glamoflauge Kit in particular. HIs Glam pack blows away all other sample libraries admittedly tho due a lot to the fact that he mix processed them and everyone else doesnt but stll... We can only hope and pray that Barressi keeps recording and mix processing expansion packs for BFD and hopefully SD3 now!! ToonTrack Listen Up! Get Joe Baressi on board!!
I believe the reason the platinum sample packs have yet to be topped (my opinion of course) is mostly because of the number of velocity layers they recorded. Every time a new pack/company etc comes out with something I always check to see how many velocity layers and none ever have as many. In fact, it seems like these companies (including BFD's regular stuff) are relying on lower sample layer numbers and "scaling" features to fill in the blanks so to speak. The Platinum samples packs have snares with 250 velocity layers. It's absolutely crazy. I think the time to record such packs is so prohibitive that they don't really want to do that, but I think it matters. Especially if you're an e drummer triggering this stuff.
Having said all that, this pack looks and sounds pretty amazing based on those demos. That bass drum sound on the 77 kit is amazing. I've never been that interested in superior drummer but this demo does make me think about it.
@@doublestrokeroll Its not only about the amount of velocities I've learned, the other big part that's even more critical that no one ever talks about is how well the engine and samples trigger. This is the only thing that matters when it comes to playing an e kit. Platinum samples has the most ridiculous number of velocities by far which is nice, but superior drummer and drumasonic samples play way better on a kit and have much less layers. This bob rock pack is phenomenal. It took me a little time to warm up to it but it sounds better than all the other packs except Allaire. Right out of the box it sounds amazing, the room, cymbals, drums
@@sn47som That's a good point. I'll have to take your word for it simply because I don't have superior. I think a lot of the engine issues are also determined by how powerful the computer is. I'm in the process of having everything on an NVMe SSD with a ton of speed. Not that I had any trouble BDF unless it was really maxed out in a DAW. But with 96 gigs of RAM and the NVMe I'm excited to see how smoothly it plays even under the harshest conditions.
I guess a couple of things have kept me away from superior. I don't think they are as raw as BFD stuff. Everything sounds more produced. And the velocity layer thing. My reasoning for that is noticing the difference in quality between the "regular" BFD stuff and the Platinum Samples. Given the engine is identical for both, the only difference from my perspective is the number of layers. It pretty much comes down to feel. The stock BFD stuff sounds amazing but when I play the Platinum Samples, and close my eyes I get as close as I can to feeling like I'm playing a real kit. That feeling is slightly missing in packs with fewer velocity layers.
At some point though maybe I'll break down and get superior as well. lol.
@@doublestrokeroll Well its not the layer count- its the sample engine as I mentioned before. you are missing out bigtime without superior drummer. It plays the best, but its not always the best sounding. 99% of the time bfd3 still has the most detail BUT you would need a lot of gear to make them sound as polished with depth and width and no phase issues as superior drummer. Some days I need vast sounding roomy, airy sounds (sup. drmmr.), other days I need a more close, punchy kit with hyper detail (bfd3 dw mardi gras kit with tempesta snare is glorious) I would love to try it with an ssd. My other fav is drumasonic luxury. It's the sleeper of them all. The drums sound stupid good. The sonor designer in it sounds beautiful. It's very true to the sound- I had a 7 piece designer bubinga kit years ago and it's just about a 1:1 representation of it that was recorded perfectly clean with great gear, tuned very well, etc., etc.. it takes time and patience with these vsti to really get a true authentic drum mix out of them but it's worth it.
@@sn47som The reason I choose BFD in the first place was that it had the reputation for being the most realistic. I basically set my whole system up to be the most realistic drums I could possibly have triggered from an edrum set up. (Roland in my case). I record, and that's important to me, but it's still secondary to realism when I'm playing real time.
All the research I had done at the time and also listening to the sample recordings etc....made me feel like Superior was lacking something in sound quality in comparison. That and they sounded more processed and "produced" to me as well. I wanted the rawest possible drum sound.
Originally I built my whole system around maximum performance to deliver BFD at full detail with no compromises. So that meant, after failing with a maxed out PC because windows was a pain in the ass, switching to a 2009 Mac Pro loaded. Worked amazingly well. But of course times move on. I've recently done a complete upgrade on my mac pro to the fast possible processors, 96GB of RAM and a pair of NVMe SSD drives with read/write speeds in the the 1000's of mb/s. So basically the "gear" for me is not a problem.
I have heard the HH parameters for Superior trigger better than BFD which is one area I've never quite been able to get 100% to my liking.
Thanks for the info on the other options though. I'm definitely having a much closer look at them.
I’ve been waiting for this to go on sale for ever. I was hoping Black Friday would do the trick but sadly no. I did get a good deal on two others though but I really what this one someday haha damn you low ass Midwest wages
Bob always has weight to his sound. Never thin.
My fucking hero!
it's really weird the fact that Bob never speaks about Metallica but toontrack's team does it like the big fan that they are, wich is good ! but weird hah, maybe has to do with contract or in order to not promote the product as a "go to" metallica "only " sound
Mostly not to promote the product as a Metallica only sound. Because it's much more than that.
@@toontrack really fair, because its much more than that!
2.01 Saosin song ? )
what neve desk were used on this sdx??
Hi Pekka. It's Neve 6630. One of the three built for George Martin and Air Studios.
I really wish he could produce Bon Jovi again!
Any word on if these are backwards compatible? Or is that just impossible :/
The Rock Foundry SDX will only work in Superior Drummer 3.
Where’s the St Anger snare?
Just use an old metal bin lid and wack it with a frozen fish
Where is Tama kit, goddamnit ?
Title of the song in the beginning?
It's a song by Thrice called "Hurricane."
That album is seriously amazing and wort checking out!
DontWorryImAPilot Thank's... Didn't know, that it was done by Bob Rock.
It was not. It was remixed using Bob's Superior Drummer 3 Library.
Produced and mixed by Eric Palmquist with drum teching done by Colin Strahm.
PLEASE!!!! Make an Alex Van Halen SDX, with Ted Templeman or Andy Johns producing. I need to get that Van Halen Drum sound. I'm Begging you!! ;)
Chris Tompkins Sadly, the remarkable and miraculous Andy Johns passed away in April of 2013 . . . I do think he did some production like this with BFD2 though . . . so now I’m wondering if we can drag those sounds into THIS! Hey TOONTRACK, is that possible? There’s entire libraries of Evil Joe Barresi stuff on a shelf in my studio that would love to join this party.
Oh man.. I didn't know that he had passed. :( Still, They have to capture the Alex Van Halen sound before it's too late. My fingers are crossed... R.I.P. Andy Johns.
The Andy John VH era was mostly electric drums and samples
Heavy Metel!
Drums so powerful they can break up an entire rock quarry's worth of kidney stones during a 2 hour show.
You want this. You are reading this and will buy this VST. Oh yes you will.
0:26 Neve scratchy switches! Kids will never know
Outstanding producer with an incredible resumé.
www.allmusic.com/artist/bob-rock-mn0000490931/credits
Use different random samples for the same velocity would be awesome. Example: same high intensity rim shot calls 4 or 5 different samples so they don't sound the same.
This is how all Toontrack sound libraries are recorded. Each velocity layer has many, many samples!
Sound more like Megadeth -Trust drums
BUY BOB ROCK SDX...TRY MAKE IT SOUND LIKE CHRIS LORD ALGE. THE IRONY OF CUSTOMERS 😂
Hmmm... Just listend to Dr.Feelgood - there are no subs on kick at all
It's all about taste
Sorry, not one kit sounds like the Bob Rock sound! Where is the Bombastic Snare from the Black Album? Every kit sounds like the 70s.
He hasnt only recorded metallica...
@@pinball3524 Ok, I'll take the Dr. Feelgood snare
wait so the man responsible for the st anger snare was trusted to make this drum pack? absurd!
What is this?
I know nothing
Do your guitar homework ,I will check it
Bet he'd always use a real kit,too many nuances in a live kit to replicate
Who did death magnetic drums? Awful awful drums
Not Bob rock..A guy name Friedman.
@@endoffate5475 Fidelman.
@@ButcherGrindslam Ha yes