Who Was Madame Mao and Why Was China's CCP So Afraid of Her?
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- The Epic Story of Jiang Qing, a former actress who became a key figure in China's Cultural Revolution. This video traces her unexpected rise from obscurity to power alongside Mao Zedong, highlighting her role in the tumultuous events that reshaped China, through the ascendancy of the Red Guard.
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0:00 China's 20 Year Civil War
1:20 The Power of Self Belief
5:18 Join The Party
8:09 Is that a Stalin Cameo?
9:03 Sell Away Your Dreams on The Dotted Line
10:25 The War Is Done & Now Everyone's Dying
13:19 Politics Makes The Heart Grow Fonder
15:20 A 2nd Trip Around The Block
19:55 Dude...What Channel is this?
19:59 The Little Devils of Youth
20:55 Things are so different now...but they also aren't
24:39 A Very Chaotic Nothingness
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a video explaining Hamilton & Jefferson's beef!
I actually agree I follow economics channels for in depth stories about things like the gold standard, inflation, Adam smith and Friedrich Hayek type content. Anything that strays too far I don’t click on.
@@EconomicsIsEpic perhaps just a video on how a similarly ambitious Austrian artist
A Dolph H. Used his failure to basically become the madam Mao of Germany
An incredible story. Couldn't stop watching all the way to the end.
Legit felt like a Hollywod documentary. Bravo
“It’s not you, it’s me, (and the powerful forces that exist inside me, driving me towards fame and power)
brutal...i'd jump in a river as well 😅
this was a legit movie! you guys have dropped like 200min of CRAZY documentary stories in less than a month? Salute to you! Keep it up!
salute back at ya
I felt like I watched an actual Hollywood documentary movie. That was an interesting story, well told, and great editing.
Thank you Homer!
yes pretty much hollywood. Half truth here, omit some events, pull out death numbers from a book even rejected by the authors.
@@dutchmilkwhat half truth Xi?
@@dutchmilk guys nowadays read two Wikipedia article and watch three UA-cam video about china and be like thank god we have the internet no one can brainwash our minds everrrrrrr 🤡🤡🤡
If you need to ask, it mean you really don't know anything about Chinese history.@@Homer-OJ-Simpson
I remember her trial from the 1970's (the infamous gang of four) and have studied her actions. It goes to prove that being one of the sh^tties persons to ever exist knows no sex.
China and India - ancient power houses, going through growing pains.
we haven't done nearly enough India videos!
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@@EconomicsIsEpic India/China each has almost 2 times more people than EU and USA combined. The development gap narrowing down, they will regain their ancient place in "the food chain". Afterall we must study History, because it repeats in a spiral (surface level stuff are different, but the underlying principles stay the same). Such as Napoleon and Germans being defeated in Russia during Winter. Or WW2 Germans learning from their WW1 mistake (starting war in 2 fronts, so fostering great relationships with USSR).
Keep up the Good work Great Vidoe very underrated channel 👍🏼
Gotta boost your audio 2:40
Good Episode man ! 👍
Thank you for this very informative video!
Let a hundred flowers blossom
and
a hundred schools of thought contend. -Mao
Very cool story!
Thank you! Isn't history cray!
Thats an incredible video so interesting!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
This comment means the world to us! Cheers
The footage at 2:30 is so much quieter than the rest of the video. Can anything be done about that after the fact?
and this, ladies and gentlemen, is why "whatever means necessary" is most times WRONG.
*Always*
The only thing worse then being blind...is having sight...but no vision
@@EconomicsIsEpic bro, you have just described yourself in one sentence. You clearly have sight but no vision at all.
@@khouloudtt1229 What brought that on?
In most times is right. Clearly you have never read a single things about resistance movements all across the globe
The root of the 60s counterculture and modern feminist movement. The root of today's far left.
She married a guy and used him for fame and then divorced him because he was "weak". When she gets downcasted by "strong men", proceeds to play the woman victim card. Deflects any scorn or criticism towards herself by blaming misogyny instead of her egomaniac behavior. Definitely sounds like modern feminists today.
Awesome video! Can I ask what sources you used? I'd like to do further reading on the topic.
This. Sources are necessary. I'd like to validate this so I can confidently share these videos.
@@thestratilosopher42I tend to google some of the important points of videos (this channel or others) to verify before I share I informative videos
Thanks for showing us that obscured part in history, it's very interesting...
Nice
Video suggestion: How India's reforms since the 1990s have been slow due to internal politics (federalism, democracy, corruption, etc)
That’s a great idea! Bureaucracy is perhaps what Indias govt is best known for internationally
Does anyone know the song at 8:20?
Outstanding Report. The parallel s to current moods and events here in the US is stunning !
@EconomicsIsEpic, thanks for the clarity on 12:31, for some reason I was thinking the monkeys - you can never trust those naughty animals. 🙂
Really, they went to Stalin for advice on how to deal with someone? What answer did they expect other than "Gulag"?
Does this summary make her look scarier than Madame Chiang Kai Shek?
Overlooking the KMT isn't going to give anyone social credit scores.
0:07 he says in 1927 the civil war broke out in china. So four perspectives FOUGHT for the Japanese whom they literally invaded 10 years after, the qing dynasty* which fall 16 years before the civil war hahahahaha the ccp and Jiang Qing ( which it laughable tbh ) so my bro literally Skips the whole KMT/nationalist part 🤡🤡🤡 i mean the civil war was literally between the ccp and the nationalist so not mentioning their perspective to china shows how knowledge he really is about china's history.
*the qing tried to restore the imperial rule in 1917 but they coup didn't last for more than 2 weeks
this is so good oh my god, i need a feature length film of this
1:10 Completely forgetting the perspective of the Kuomintang ?
What was the KMT perspective on her?
The title of the video is about her and why the CCP feared her. Did the KMT have a perspective on this issue?
@@jeffcastaneda7010 0:07 he says in 1927 the civil war broke out in china. So four perspectives FOUGHT for the Japanese whom they literally invaded 10 years after, the qing dynasty* which fall 16 years before the civil war hahahahaha the ccp and Jiang Qing ( which it laughable tbh ) so my bro literally Skips the whole KMT/nationalist part 🤡🤡🤡 i mean the civil war was literally between the ccp and the nationalist so not mentioning their perspective to china shows how knowledge he really is about china's history.
*the qing tried to restore the imperial rule in 1917 but they coup didn't last for more than 2 weeks
Ahh the olè saying.... what goes around comes around.
Reminds me of cersei from game of thrones
She’s like the original Aqwafina but somehow not as bad
The artificial film dirt and flickering effect applied over the old footage in this video is distracting and irritating. I don't see the benefit of it.
The title is incorrect already. China CCP was never affraid of her.
They were. She and the "Gang of Four" did so much damage to the party alongside Lin Biao controlling the personality cult of Chairman Mao.
They even got a majority of the party's "Eight Immortals"(revolutionary who had been influential since the formation of CCP and the PRC) purged including Deng Xiaoping and actively persecuted the powerful Zhou Enlai.
Funny thing was the Gang of Four had no single political capital or credentials rather than propagating Mao's cult, paranoia and influence over an old and paranoid Mao.
It was only after Mao died that the party eliminated their influence via a coup, rehabilitated the Party hierarchy, and worked to undo the damages done by the Gang of Four and the cultural revolution.
It is still a stain on Chinese history today and why the young people amd generation before them don't trust the party.
Madam Mao was pure evil incarnate driven by crazy ambition yo!
This guy defined the story in such an un-nuanced way, so much that questions like “did she really love mao?”, “why did she sign the contract if she didn’t want to be restrained” (because they thought she was getting married to him for her own political agenda) etc are left unanswered.
He didn't even answer the question of "why the ccp is afraid of her"
His sources are highly questionable. Madame jiang qing is under a misogynistic (mixed with antichina anti-coummnism sentiments in the west) attacks since her trail. She was described as a demon as a monster as the most evil person in the world or what which has nothing to do with her legacy, a debatable highly controversial legacy indeed but more nuanced than all of what was produced about her for the last 40 years or what !
This is the western narrative of madame jiang qing which portraits her as super bad and insane and so on which is extremely bias to be fair. Bais to a laughable level , the ccp narrative is basis too but less exaggerated. For the 40 years every mention of her her be associated with denouncing her.
That's why i call her the new empress Wu of china! Empress Wu was believed by mainstream historian for years to be evil mad and power hungry. Why? She lost a power struggle against the old imperial court at the time so they only wanted the people to remember her as , you guess it right, the most evil person in all of china history or what , and this story kinda stuck for centuries, she's only rehabilitated in the recent years , after more than 1000 year of her death , when recent historians came the conclusion that her reign wasn't all bad. The same old story of Cleopatra or Nefertiti...
@@khouloudtt1229 true
(5:36)Yanan started becoming the headquarter of the Chinese Communist Party in 1935. Jiang Qing went there in 1938. Qing Dynasty ended its rule of China in 1911. Therefore, Yanan was not the headquarter of CCP against Qing dynasty but uniting the whole nation against Japanese invasion.
What do you expect from a UA-camr who perhaps read two or three Wikipedia articles about china before making this video 🤷🤷🤷🤷
0:07 he says in 1927 the civil war broke out in china. So four perspectives FOUGHT for the Japanese whom they literally invaded 10 years after, the qing dynasty* which fall 16 years before the civil war hahahahaha the ccp and Jiang Qing ( which it laughable tbh ) so my bro literally Skips the whole KMT/nationalist part 🤡🤡🤡 i mean the civil war was literally between the ccp and the nationalist so not mentioning their perspective to china shows how knowledge he really is about china's history.
*the qing tried to restore the imperial rule in 1917 but they coup didn't last for more than 2 weeks
My concern about any historical topics on those Chinese figures is, how do you get unbiased info?
At that time period China is even less willing to be open, and the history told in china is fully controlled by the CCP. Are you really sure you are not just retelling the same story of the CCP's "打倒四人帮"?
This story about Jiang Qing is told from the western perspective about her which is ironically enough more biased than the ccp version of her. If the ccp portrait her as evil-which they do- the western narrative portraits her as super super super evil demon monster. Which is soooooo bias the be believed, i mean at this point it's a meme 😅😅😅
The ccp narrative about Jiang Qing is basis they tend to portrait her as super bad yet it's more accurate than the western narrative where Jiang qing is portrait as super super superrrrrr bad insane and lunatic. So Frankly it's hard to find something accurate about her legacy like really hard
Interesting topic, but it is FOS.
I hate when people try to cover communism from an anti communist view point. Shits not even relevant
This narrative is way worse than anti-communism or antichina it's anti-history. Highly exaggerated, oversimplified. An unnecessary dramatisation just for views, yeah it's anti-history.
3 people took their own life or tried to in this video.
This video maker needed more knowledge of Chinese history before doing this. Also no mention of classes and class struggle and China's fight to drive out imperialism.
I know you lampshades her as a "strong woman that had grand visions and wouldn't let a man get in her way."
But honestly, she just seems like a power hungry, paranoid, and petty megalomaniac. Who did sought power through others. Who didn't care about eqaulity, but raising her status. Who had moments of acting pure evil. That is more of a accurate statement. So it is kinda gross to see you put a "girl-boss" varnish on it. A real "we need more female fighter pilots" situation.
19:55 bro literally copied the script of a documentary film called "can't get youbout of my head" WORD BY WORD without giving credit!
Thief...
This video attributes way to much to 1 person and their contributions during the cultural revolution no offense but it feels like the person who wrote this wanted to sound deep and meaningful at the expense of actual historical facts. Not a single mention is made at all of the fact that it was not 1 but 4 people who "spearheaded" things at Mao´s behest during the cultural revolution. Sorry but this is gone earn a hard downvote from me.
This video is poorly made. He omitted quite a few events and the part on the great forward leap are inaccurate as well.
And sometimes he contradict himself by trying to sound deep.
Thanks for the video. Great job! But could you be less dramatic? Because this one sounds more like one of those murder mystery videos.
Why do you talk SO SLOW
Right, epic clip, where's the economics part?
The great leap forward failed for a few factors. A few were mentioned in the video but some are not. I am not sure if this is intentional or not, but it is quite common that criticism of the Great Chinese Famine often omitted the natural disaster factors and focus on the fault of the CCP. I always find this omission insidious. This omission is repeated in Wikipedia.
This video didn't even mention the three years of natural famine. I guess it helps them to demonize the CCP as much as they can.
And 55 millions people died? You pulled that numbers from The Black Book of Communism?
In 1959 to 1961, all over China, there were a series of drought, deep temperature drop, floods and storms. This caused a domino effect of locust, army worm and rat plague, no thanks to Mao's idiotic belief that sparrows would eat the crops away.
Why is there no mention of the rest of the four man gang?
Of course some idiots would jump out of the wood and said these never happened. Then again, we are asking alot for people where their school don't teach them history. Mao's death was the start of Jiang Qing fall. Jiang Qing was arrested during the 怀仁堂事变 which was erroneously describe as a Coup d'état by western interpretation.
1. The drought was mentioned but the drought itself would not explain the majority of the deaths. It was a series of Mao decisions from collectivized farming, exporting food when people were starving, the sparrow issue you mentioned, etc.
2. The rest of the four man gang? Well this seemed to focus on Mao and his wife, mostly his wife
3. The 55 million is the upper estimate. review of economic studies “The Institutional Causes of China’s Great Famine, 1959-1961” has 45m as the upper estimate. Our World Data estimates 33 million as upper range.
No one ever said the 3 years natural disaster caused the majority of the problem, but the disaster did caused 30% of the problems which left 19 to 22 millions people to die. The fact it was omitted was intentional because it did greatly downplayed a critical factor, in order to make the CCP look worse. Most people would lose their marble and said this is white washing history. But the fact the disaster is part of history and stating it as fact, doesn't mean it is white washing. The drought is one of the few natural disasters. There are more natural disasters at play than the droughts.
55 millions death is way over the top and inaccurate.
The model of death prediction is questionable as there was no way to accurately predict the death toll. The estimation was based on the healthy amount of calories intake per person vs the known numbers of food production vs the know population in each area of China. The known numbers of people were based on records before the Japanese invasion and the known numbers of death are according to families. This made the credibility of the population numbers very questionable as the Chinese government or the families could not account for everyone registered previously. To give it in context, alot of people living in Nanjing today are not from Nanjing. The locals were killed by the Japanese to the point, they barely survived. Many families were broken apart and never found each other again.
This problem persist until in the 90s. It would not be wild to believe China had less than 600 millions or less people during the 1950s.
That paper you cited brought up the fact communication challenge and poor food distribution. The paper also cited poor city and rural planning which lead to overstocking and the anti-rightist movement which got out of hand. This created a shortage of labor power and badly crippled the already challenged communication between the cities and the rural area. The soviet and China relationship also played a big part why the famine got so bad during those three years. The video failed to mention any of it and painted the famine mainly as a Chinese governance problem.
To focus not on the gang but Jiang Qing is a bad take on history because the video seem to suggest she alone had China under controlled. In truth, her power is pretty limited but in her limitation, she wield great destructive influence. She often get attention because she was Mao's wife and the other three were "relegated" to the side.
If this video is a trailer to actual details, then it should be criticized as a bad trailer for creating a impression borderline on some strange narrative. If this video is based on that paper you cited, then this video is a masterclass of poor oversimplifying.
The Chinese view is that the three years natural famine was caused by natural disasters and greatly exacerbated by VERY poor governance and political turmoil. They never once deny it is their fault.
The western view downplay the natural disaster in order to paint the great famine solely as evident of CCP poor leadership without considering or mentioning factors like embargo, post war infrastructure in ruin, and participation of the Korean war, medicine and sanitation levels. The insidious element should not be ignored.
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Every strategy to make a video longer, was used here, i don't appreciate this, and never watching thiz crap again
Exactly at half he tries soooo much to sound deep talking about Jiang Qing's philosophy of life without even mentioning Marx and Marxism, i mean the woman was literally a communist! This video is so liberal for me tbh.
Where economics?))
*Cliche Answer:* Economics is at the heart of every story
*The answer you might be looking for:* At Epic Economics, rather then run through an economic case study we'd rather unpack EPIC stories which feature economic conflicts at the heart of them. (Opium War revolves around trade relations, Bernays pt. 1 is about market expansion amidst the fear of over production, the VOC episode is about havoc that stemmed out of economic innovation which had stemmed out of economic conflict) In this video the CCP rises to power amidst a backdrop of millions of impoverished people. The economic conditions in China served as the catalyst for the civil war. Jiang Qing's individualism serves as a juxtaposition to the new socio-economic philosophy the CCP then tries to usher in. Her spirit of her individualism is also what is used to leverage the frustrations of millions of people, who are beyond frustrated about what exactly? The lack of economic opportunity that exists in the country. And what happens in between these events? Mao's disastrous economic policy that leads to grave consequences of epic proportion. So yes, sometimes the economic analysis is more explicit in some videos then others, but economics truly is at the heart of all of history's most epic stories from wars, to elections, to moments of innovation. So I hope you guys do feel you're learning about economic history through these videos...and I hope you find the stories as epic as I do.
@@EconomicsIsEpic, alright alright, I got it from the size of the wall of text that I tingled the nerve of some person behind the keyboard. The story is really epic, however tangential it is to economics.
It can have real estate at Context Matters as well)
All old ways of thinking what socialism is are wrong! Socialism is never one system but has a dominant role in it's society or political party. Nazism is socialism being autocratic with kapitalism financial support. CCP china has this same kind of socialism controversy system nowadays.