Glow-worm energy or is it the Vaillant eco fit pure, how to strip and service the combination boiler
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2022
- Derek in an other inside the boiler case video takes a look at the Glow worm Energy 30c or is it the Vaillant eco fit pure. Derek takes us through the different components of the combination boiler then shows us how to take it apart for servicing and repair.
Thanks TomKat. Newly qualified service and breakdown engineer. Your videos are pure gold and have helped me numerous times as I find my way in the industry. Keep up the good work 👏
Brilliant Derek thanks for you taking the time to put these videos together they help me alot!
The first time I stripped one down I didn’t like it, but removing the expansion vessel is super easy and a ring spanner fits on easy enough on the back nuts, plus they only need loosening to get the burner out, and when said burner is out, removing the bolts is super quick. Great vid 👍👍
Very helpful video, thanks Derek👍👍👍
Great video fella. So many things on this boiler you cannot get to easily. Hard work getting to those heat exchanger nuts if it's in a cupboard(as they are designed and promoted to) and cannot take the sides off. And a sideways gas pressure testpoint facing other pipes. Also cannot do a flue integrity if rear flued..
yet another great video to help everyone 👍
Good job 👌 thanks for your efforts 🙂
These boilers are really easy to service. There is space inside due to well thought out layout of the components inside. In my opinion, better than worcester, baxi and ideal.
Had a two year old one last month, leaking and absolutely rotten inside. So many issues with Glow-worm boilers. Just stick to baxi and Ideal, top video Derick 🤘
love the strip downs please do more
More coming soon
Great video
Would like to ask is that boiler have flow turbines or hot water thermistor as I don't see it what is hot water demand by which component in this boiler.
Thank you
Great video what size rachet was used to remeove the nuts? Thanks
I've come across about 6 or 7 glow worm sustain and Vaillant ecofit pures over the last 4 months that have been leaking from the plastic condense sump / collector and losing system pressure. Age varying from 2015 to 2019.
Great vid ! I have the energy 25c. I can change the water flow temp via the Climapro2 remote, but doesn’t seem have the facility to check the Heating flow temp ! Any ideas please? Tia
glow worm energy came out first, but vaillant wanted a more affordable boiler for the valiant brand and released the glow worm energy as the vaillant home boiler onto the new builds market to test it. then released to general market as the ecofit pure. obviously it has different user controls and facia.
Thomas Bradwell
Thanks Derek
Must on vaillant site say you can remove back bolts without taking side panels off .I can't see how
when i went on Glow worm training we never took the expansion vessel. just used bahco socket and took side panels off i am sure. but hey it was 7 yr ago when i did the glow energy training.
I didn’t have a bahco socket set and to be fair I could have spent an hour undoing the nuts with the open end spanner just thought it was quicker and easier 👍🏻
yep that's what I've done, was surprised to see the cex coming out lol
Legend
How do you fill pressure on it.
Hi Tomkat i wonder is pouring water through the exchanger is the right thing to do, i never saw this boiler in the field but my experience with similar exchanger on Remeha Tzerra and Calenta, if you rinse the aluminum oxide turns in to soggy slush and later hardens and clog up the exanger.
It’s what glow worm recommends but I guess you can pour as much water through until you are happy it’s all gone and clear 👍🏻
@@tomkatgastraining You can always pour warm water through it works better IMO, good video thanks
side note. don't try to take those 4 bolts out if there is any heat in that heat exchanger. or they won't go back in again. also. you don't need to take the expansion vessel out to get to that back nut. its awkward but can be done with a long spanner.
What if you haven’t got a long spanner
The diverter valve has a design flaw that just leaks. I have been to loads that leak and the system water was crystal clear.
I don’t think the water helped in this case
Or even it's Heatline Capriz 2 at £380 from Travis Perkins but Heatline gets a built in clock too!!!! Actually they make loads of boilers that are the same inside with a whole range prices. Betacom, Energy etc etc.
small bahco ratchet bit set is ideal for these you can service without removing side panels or expansion vessel 👍
Thanks for this info mate 👍
Do you have a link for that
@bluedwarf8858 bahco 2058 half price halfords if your in the uk bargain
@@galaxydave69 thanks for that, yeah in UK, will be useful as I have a vaillant one to do
@@bluedwarf8858 ecofit pure
Please show how to replace flow sensor. Thanks
Hello Derek. Have you fitted or serviced any Navien boilers yet?
No not yet
Any videos on gas diversity calcs for sizing gas meters Tom
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Try this link
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HEX looks remarkably similar to the Ideal Logic range. Seems a bit daft you have to take the vessel out to get to those back nuts.
How often do the MIs say you should be stripping this?
You don’t need to small socket set and you can get on both bolts with out taken even the side panels off
I enjoy servicing the pure/energy/heatline capriz. I hated the first one. Once you get around that, you realise they are well designed and quite accessible. Pouring water does nothing in my experience and they do need a little scrub with water/vinegar
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They are both Glow Worm boilers! When you look inside they have cheaper aluminium main heat exchangers that sends deposits out into the condense trap. Bottom entry level boilers if your on a budget!
Saying damage caused by poorly installed /flushed system is more to do with the poor quality of what the boilers made off
So the diverter valve failed directly because of being installed into a non power flushed system. So seal failure could have been repaired with a new valve.
There is a lot more to it than that. The boiler hadn’t been installed by a gas register engineer and the warranty was voided by glow worm so the customer wanted rid of it because it kept breaking down due to a poor install. So if you are thinking we have ripped the customer off you don’t know the full story.
@@tomkatgastraining I never thought that I was just interested in why it failed.
All fine n dandy being able to take the side panels off until space is too tight to be able to take the side panels off🤣
Can you run a gas pipe 100mm next to a flue
Thanks
Because you have asked on a few videos now why do you think you can’t install a gas pipe 100mm from a flue
@@tomkatgastraining
Thanks for replying
My plumber did it , I'm just thinking it would get hot and might explode
I'm probably paranoid, just want an opinion
Thanks
@@bogdanb6415 what is the flue off
@@tomkatgastraining
It's a 2 year old flue , vented I think, with a ideal vogue boiler
@@bogdanb6415 no need to worry
As a home owner (who recently paied 2300 for a new glowworm boiler then 1000 for new rads) i feel a lottle shafted that all these componants are internal and cannot be worked on as this winter after new rads i belive i have a blocked expantion vessel. So now i need to pay for a flush on top of the nearly 3500 ive spent already.
The gas i get but EV is a bit silly really same as the trap for hot water dont know what its called.
I dont think non gas safe people should be able to work on the gas but i do think it could be 2 different covors. Repairability is everything in this disposable world.
Its like owning a car you cannot open the bonnet to. Very annoying and to my knowlage doesnt exist in any other industry.
Usual plastic rubbish. Easy access for that gas test point for your screwdriver 🙄 new seals every time you want to clean the heat x, and what a faff to get at it. Easy if you take the side off but guaranteed it’ll be against a wall so you can’t. Test points on the turret so if it’s side flued, it’s a pain for your analyser.
I’ll take a Baxi thanks ( in 6 months time 😂😂😂)
Great strip video though.
Funnily enough the flues are priced very differently too.
The mechanical clocks interchange with the heatline which is practically the same as this boiler,
@@ian1104 Thanks. I'm not surprised at all.
same old glow worm build quality.... i'll stick to ideal and worcester...
Vaillant have now ceased production of the ecotec range probably their best and most widely sold domestic combination boiler .
Only my opinion but the ecotec is by far a more superior boiler in every way .
A real shame but it all comes down to costs many of the components in the ecofit are half the price of the ecotec .
This boiler gets wrong all the things the Logic gets right in terms of ease of access, and quite possibly quality, even though the layout looks similar overall. Using water flushes out Logic heat exchangers just fine so I don't see why it shouldn't work on the Glow Worm/ Vaillant perfectly satisfactorily. That's not a boiler I can build enthusiasm for compared to the Baxis and Ideals. That diverter reminds me of the one on the Ferroli Optimax.....and they can leak too.
Do you get the Korean "Navien" brand boilers there? There's a UA-cam plumber "MikeyPipes" and he rants about how lousy they are and how many he has to replace. Frightening.
Yes we have them but I have never fitted one
An electrician can wire it up as long as the gas is isolated and he does not turn the gas tap on.
Wrong again an electrician can wire up if a qualified gas safe registered gas engineer is present
@@tomkatgastraining
Nonsense!
@@johnburns4017 only in your mind check out the gas safety installation and use regs 2018 or ask the HSE.
@@tomkatgastraining
If there is no gas into a boiler it is just lump of metal. Only when gas is run onto the boiler is it a _gas appiance._
@@tomkatgastraining
The 1998 law is still applicable. Have a look.
You need to understand the law. The law says you must be *competent,* that is your results. If you work on gas for gain ( e.g. money), you need to be in a registration scheme.
Work for no money for friends or family (e.g., retired not registered) all is fine.
No you need to understand the new laws brought out in 2018 and you will find you are breaking the law and manufacturers instructions.
@@tomkatgastraining
The 1998 law is still in force. It has not been superseded.
You need to be *competent* in how you work and your results.
That applies to *_anyone_* working on gas equipment or pipes.
Trading for money? You need to be in a registration scheme. The current one is called GasSafe run by a private company, Capita.
You do not receive money for gas work? You need to be *competent.* No registration required.
H&S were _recommending_ you do not DIY. That is not the law. H&S are not the law. H&S have to comply to the law. Laws relating to gas and its operatives is a part of the building regulations, which is law.
The 1998 law is till in force. It says:
*_Qualification and supervision_*
_3.-(1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is_ *_competent_* _to do so._
You are giving misinformation. Find out. Do not go on myth and rumour.
@@johnburns4017 just in case you mist it. Taken from the current gas safety installation and use regs 1998 amended 2018
81 Gas work should only be undertaken:
(a) by a person who has successfully completed an industry- recognised training course followed by assessment of competence. Training that leads to assessment of competence in safe gas work should be recognised by the industry’s standards setting body; or
(b) in the case of a currently or previously registered person, where they have proved competence through a certification scheme; or
(c) for those working at premises that fall outside the scope of the Regulations (see regulation 2(4) and associated guidance), by a person who has successfully completed an appropriate full training course followed by assessment of competence.
82 Training should be of a standard to enable a gas engineer to achieve
competence in the safe installation, purging, commissioning, testing, servicing, maintenance, repair, disconnection, modification and dismantling of the gas systems, fittings and appliances with which they are working. This should include an adequate knowledge of:
(a) relevant associated services such as water and electricity;
(b) the potential for exposure to asbestos;
(c) the dangers these may give rise to;
(d) the precautions to take.
@@tomkatgastraining
That was *NOT* from the law. That was from a H&S document, _Safety in the installation and use of gas systems and appliances._ By H&S, Number: J003427996 C5 04/18. April 2018.
81 and 82 is their ACOP take on it (H&S Guidance) - not the *law.*
The bit you missed out, ACOP Guidance, not the law, says:
_83 Anyone who does work on a gas fitting or gas storage vessel must be_ *_competent_* _to do so_ *_(whether or not they are required to be a member of an approved class of persons)._* _Therefore, do-it-yourself gas engineers and those performing favours for friends and relatives all need to have the required_ *_competence._* _The level and range of competence should match the full extent of work done, but needs only to be sufficient for and relevant to that work._
Their take, quite rightly and *clearly,* does not state that anyone doing non-paid gas work (they say diy) has to be registered with an approved scheme (Gas Safe). It clearly states they must all have the same *competence* level. *COMPETENCE* is the key word.
No, it isn't.
Yes it is 😋
No vaillent or glow worm for me won't buy one😂😂😂😂😂
All fine n dandy being able to take the side panels off until space is too tight to be able to take the side panels off🤣